May 23, 2013 - IELTS exam (Speaking)
May 23, 2013 - Certificate of Employment
May 25, 2013 - IELTS exam (Listening, writing, reading)
June 4, 2013 - submitted online ACS application; send documents via online
June 4, 2013 - ACS acknowledged the applications, and already being assessed.
June 7, 2013 - IELTS (results: 9.0, 8.0, 7.5, 7.5)
Sept 3, 2013 - ACS skills assessment (261111): Suitable
Sept 4, 2013 - started to work on EOI
Sept 12, 2013 - EOI submitted (190, nominated/permanent )
Oct 11, 2013 - submitted 2nd online ACS application. ACS acknowledged.
Oct 22, 2013 - 2nd ACS skills assessment (263111) : Suitable
Oct 23, 2013 - EOI submitted (489, regional/provisional)
Oct 30, 2013 - Initial contact by WA (for 263111)
Oct 31, 2013 - Invitation from WA to apply for State Nomination
Nov 06, 2013 - Submitted application for WA State nomination
Dec 10, 2013 - Received WA sponsorship
Dec 11, 2013 - Submitted signed NOM agreement
Dec 12, 2013 - Received invitation to apply for Visa
Jan 8, 2014 - Lodged visa application
Jan 14, 2014 - Uploaded documents
Jan 24, 2014 - Medical at St Luke's Global
Mar 5, 2014 - contacted by CO
Mar 7, 2014 - submitted passport, IELTS and form 80
Mar 14, 2014 - CO confirmed receipt of docs; no further docs required; (Brisbane.gsm.team34)
April 2014 - Visa granted
May 2014 - Flight to Perth
Sept 2014 - First IT Job in Perth
Mar 2015 - Second IT Job in Perth
2016 - Studied Cert IV in Training and Assessment
2017 - Moved from Perth WA to Geelong VIC and became an IT Trainer
2019 - Australian Citizenship - YAY!
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1. di ko alam sagot kasi vetassess ako ngpassess. need to wait sa sagot ng iba.
2. IELTS - kung ano yung lowest score mo dun nila ibabased ang macclaim mong points. take note na ang requirement for 20pts is all bands should be at least 8. therefore kahit may 8, 9 ka na score since ang lowest mo is 7.5 = 10 points lang macclaim mo.
3. pwede. take note na dpat pag 190 may state na magssponsor sayo. so, make sure may state na nagssponsor ng occupation mo.
hope my limited knowledge helps.
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31 May 13 - Vetassess Requirements Acknowledge
22 June 13 - IELTS Exam at IDP Singapore
5 July 13 - IELTS Passed
30 Aug 13 - Vetassess Results - Positive + EOI Submitted
4 Sept 13 - Initial Contact WA SS
5 Sept 13 - Invited to apply for WA SS
9 Sept 13 - WA SS approved!
12 Sept 13 - Lodged Visa 190
23 Sept 13 - Medical Examination - SATA Bedok SG
27 Sept 13 - Medicals Uploaded
21 Oct 13 - CO allocated (Adelaide GSM Team 6, MN)
1 Nov 13 - SG PCC submitted
5 Dec 13 - Visa Granted! To God be the Glory!
IED: 26 Sep 14
1 May 14 - Touchdown Perth!
12 June 14 - First day of work. God will always provide.
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And He will give you the desires of your heart.
Posts: 72Member
Joined: Sep 06, 2013
May 23, 2013 - IELTS exam (Speaking)
May 23, 2013 - Certificate of Employment
May 25, 2013 - IELTS exam (Listening, writing, reading)
June 4, 2013 - submitted online ACS application; send documents via online
June 4, 2013 - ACS acknowledged the applications, and already being assessed.
June 7, 2013 - IELTS (results: 9.0, 8.0, 7.5, 7.5)
Sept 3, 2013 - ACS skills assessment (261111): Suitable
Sept 4, 2013 - started to work on EOI
Sept 12, 2013 - EOI submitted (190, nominated/permanent )
Oct 11, 2013 - submitted 2nd online ACS application. ACS acknowledged.
Oct 22, 2013 - 2nd ACS skills assessment (263111) : Suitable
Oct 23, 2013 - EOI submitted (489, regional/provisional)
Oct 30, 2013 - Initial contact by WA (for 263111)
Oct 31, 2013 - Invitation from WA to apply for State Nomination
Nov 06, 2013 - Submitted application for WA State nomination
Dec 10, 2013 - Received WA sponsorship
Dec 11, 2013 - Submitted signed NOM agreement
Dec 12, 2013 - Received invitation to apply for Visa
Jan 8, 2014 - Lodged visa application
Jan 14, 2014 - Uploaded documents
Jan 24, 2014 - Medical at St Luke's Global
Mar 5, 2014 - contacted by CO
Mar 7, 2014 - submitted passport, IELTS and form 80
Mar 14, 2014 - CO confirmed receipt of docs; no further docs required; (Brisbane.gsm.team34)
April 2014 - Visa granted
May 2014 - Flight to Perth
Sept 2014 - First IT Job in Perth
Mar 2015 - Second IT Job in Perth
2016 - Studied Cert IV in Training and Assessment
2017 - Moved from Perth WA to Geelong VIC and became an IT Trainer
2019 - Australian Citizenship - YAY!
This forum has been such a great help.
Thanks PinoyAU!
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Jeremiah 29:11
"For I know the plans I have for you, declares the Lord, plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future."
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Ganito ung sa akin:
The following employment after September 2011 is considered to equate to work at an appropriate skill level and relevant to Systems Analyst of the ANZSCO Code.
Dates: 09/05 - 4/13 ( 7 years and 7 months)
ibig sabihin nyan 2 years pa lang ang work experience ko?
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VISA 489 APPROVED
JULY 2014
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Primary Applicant: Wife
Accountant (General): 221111
04 Aug 2012 - IELTS (Academic Module)
07 Aug 2012 - IELTS (Academic Module) Speaking Part
17 Aug 2012 - IELTS Results (L: 8.5 R: 8.5 W: 7.0 S: 7.5 OBS: 8.0)
24 Aug 2012 - CPAA Submitted (docs mailed same day via SG EMS)
25 Sep 2012 - Received +Skills Assessment from CPAA
25 Sep 2012 - Lodged EOI Application with 70pts
30 Sep 2012 - Invited by DIAC to apply for 189 Visa
01 Oct 2012 - Submitted 189 Visa Application
20 Oct 2012 - Medical Examinations
23 Oct 2012 - CO Assigned; Team 7 - SA
05 Nov 2012 - Submitted SG PCC and NBI Clearance
06 Nov 2012 - Visa Granted (IED: 23/10/2013)
03 Apr 2013 - Flight to MEL
03 Jun 2013 - started work
12 Jun 2013 - wife started work
15 Jun 2016 - applied for citizenship
29 Jul 2016 - citizenship examination
20 Oct 2016 - Aussie, Aussie, Aussie Oi Oi Oi!!
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VISA 489 APPROVED
JULY 2014
Posts: 72Member
Joined: Sep 06, 2013
May 23, 2013 - IELTS exam (Speaking)
May 23, 2013 - Certificate of Employment
May 25, 2013 - IELTS exam (Listening, writing, reading)
June 4, 2013 - submitted online ACS application; send documents via online
June 4, 2013 - ACS acknowledged the applications, and already being assessed.
June 7, 2013 - IELTS (results: 9.0, 8.0, 7.5, 7.5)
Sept 3, 2013 - ACS skills assessment (261111): Suitable
Sept 4, 2013 - started to work on EOI
Sept 12, 2013 - EOI submitted (190, nominated/permanent )
Oct 11, 2013 - submitted 2nd online ACS application. ACS acknowledged.
Oct 22, 2013 - 2nd ACS skills assessment (263111) : Suitable
Oct 23, 2013 - EOI submitted (489, regional/provisional)
Oct 30, 2013 - Initial contact by WA (for 263111)
Oct 31, 2013 - Invitation from WA to apply for State Nomination
Nov 06, 2013 - Submitted application for WA State nomination
Dec 10, 2013 - Received WA sponsorship
Dec 11, 2013 - Submitted signed NOM agreement
Dec 12, 2013 - Received invitation to apply for Visa
Jan 8, 2014 - Lodged visa application
Jan 14, 2014 - Uploaded documents
Jan 24, 2014 - Medical at St Luke's Global
Mar 5, 2014 - contacted by CO
Mar 7, 2014 - submitted passport, IELTS and form 80
Mar 14, 2014 - CO confirmed receipt of docs; no further docs required; (Brisbane.gsm.team34)
April 2014 - Visa granted
May 2014 - Flight to Perth
Sept 2014 - First IT Job in Perth
Mar 2015 - Second IT Job in Perth
2016 - Studied Cert IV in Training and Assessment
2017 - Moved from Perth WA to Geelong VIC and became an IT Trainer
2019 - Australian Citizenship - YAY!
This forum has been such a great help.
Thanks PinoyAU!
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Jeremiah 29:11
"For I know the plans I have for you, declares the Lord, plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future."
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Joined: Aug 28, 2013
All relevant qualifications and experience will be taken into consideration in the assessment to ascertain whether an applicant meets the requirements to be awarded a suitable outcome however only employment completed after the date you have met the ACS requirements will be counted as skilled employment - please see the Summary of Criteria for additional information.
After this date you may be able to claim points for your experience with the Department of Immigration – please contact them for further information.
@habibi, ganyan din po ba ang sagot sa inyo?
261112 - Systems Analyst ( Age: 25 | Educ: 15 | Work: 15 | PTE - 20| Partner: 10 | NAATI: 5) Total: 90 pts.
08/2013 | Got interested in Australia Migration
09/2013 - 01/2019 | Our plan somehow stagnated
01/2019 | ACS Assessment: Submitted
02/2019 | ACS Assessment: Positive Result
09/2020 | PTE: Superior Score
09/2020 | EOI Submitted (75)
10/2020 | Partner PTE: Proficient (+5)
10/2020 | EOI Updated (80)
11/2020 | NAATI CCL Exam
12/2020 | NAATI CCL Exam: Positive Result! (+5)
12/2020 | EOI Updated (85)
12/2020 | Partner's ACS Assessment: Submitted
02/2021 | Partner's ACS Assessment: Positive Result (+5)
?? / ???? | ITA
?? / ???? | Visa Grant
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Posts: 72Member
Joined: Sep 06, 2013
May 23, 2013 - IELTS exam (Speaking)
May 23, 2013 - Certificate of Employment
May 25, 2013 - IELTS exam (Listening, writing, reading)
June 4, 2013 - submitted online ACS application; send documents via online
June 4, 2013 - ACS acknowledged the applications, and already being assessed.
June 7, 2013 - IELTS (results: 9.0, 8.0, 7.5, 7.5)
Sept 3, 2013 - ACS skills assessment (261111): Suitable
Sept 4, 2013 - started to work on EOI
Sept 12, 2013 - EOI submitted (190, nominated/permanent )
Oct 11, 2013 - submitted 2nd online ACS application. ACS acknowledged.
Oct 22, 2013 - 2nd ACS skills assessment (263111) : Suitable
Oct 23, 2013 - EOI submitted (489, regional/provisional)
Oct 30, 2013 - Initial contact by WA (for 263111)
Oct 31, 2013 - Invitation from WA to apply for State Nomination
Nov 06, 2013 - Submitted application for WA State nomination
Dec 10, 2013 - Received WA sponsorship
Dec 11, 2013 - Submitted signed NOM agreement
Dec 12, 2013 - Received invitation to apply for Visa
Jan 8, 2014 - Lodged visa application
Jan 14, 2014 - Uploaded documents
Jan 24, 2014 - Medical at St Luke's Global
Mar 5, 2014 - contacted by CO
Mar 7, 2014 - submitted passport, IELTS and form 80
Mar 14, 2014 - CO confirmed receipt of docs; no further docs required; (Brisbane.gsm.team34)
April 2014 - Visa granted
May 2014 - Flight to Perth
Sept 2014 - First IT Job in Perth
Mar 2015 - Second IT Job in Perth
2016 - Studied Cert IV in Training and Assessment
2017 - Moved from Perth WA to Geelong VIC and became an IT Trainer
2019 - Australian Citizenship - YAY!
This forum has been such a great help.
Thanks PinoyAU!
Posts: 225Member
Joined: Dec 16, 2012
Jeremiah 29:11
"For I know the plans I have for you, declares the Lord, plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future."
Posts: 202Member
Joined: Aug 28, 2013
"In regards to your enquiry only employment completed after the date you have met the ACS requirements will be counted as skilled employment.
which means after this date you may be able to claim points for your experience with the Department of Immigration – please contact them for further information."
For me the message above removes my doubts. Guess we need to prepare hard for the IELTS to negate the points that we can no longer claim. (
sir @habibi, have you submitted your EOI? Did you claim 15 points for work experience? I think it can still be changed at this point, as long as no invitation has been sent yet from DIAC.
261112 - Systems Analyst ( Age: 25 | Educ: 15 | Work: 15 | PTE - 20| Partner: 10 | NAATI: 5) Total: 90 pts.
08/2013 | Got interested in Australia Migration
09/2013 - 01/2019 | Our plan somehow stagnated
01/2019 | ACS Assessment: Submitted
02/2019 | ACS Assessment: Positive Result
09/2020 | PTE: Superior Score
09/2020 | EOI Submitted (75)
10/2020 | Partner PTE: Proficient (+5)
10/2020 | EOI Updated (80)
11/2020 | NAATI CCL Exam
12/2020 | NAATI CCL Exam: Positive Result! (+5)
12/2020 | EOI Updated (85)
12/2020 | Partner's ACS Assessment: Submitted
02/2021 | Partner's ACS Assessment: Positive Result (+5)
?? / ???? | ITA
?? / ???? | Visa Grant
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Yun reason ko nman bakit nideclare ko lhat ng work experience ko ksi as per my understanding Yun final decision, DIAC pa rin magdedecide sa pag award ng points. When filling up EOI, wala nman namention dun na yun assessing authority, yun Ang basis Kung yes or no ba Ang lalagay mo. With qualification, namention yun kaya I put diploma,
I hope someone can provide their honest opinion in my case. Ksing gulung gulp na tlaga ako. Wala pala akong agent. Salamat po.
Posts: 243Member
Joined: Nov 08, 2012
04/27/13 IELTS GT Exam
07/25/13 CDR sent to EA
12/03/13 Positive EA Assessment
01/28/14 Submitted EOI (VISA Subclass 189, 70 Points)
02/10/14 Received invitation from SkillSelect
03/01/14 Lodged VISA Subclass 189 Application
04/29/14 VISA GRANT!!! Thank you Lord!
02/13/15 Started to work
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Analyst Programmer (ANZSCO Code 261311)
03/18/2013 - ACS submitted
04/06/2013 - IELTS (BC) - L-7.5 R-7.0 W-7.0 S-6.5
06/20/2013 - Received ACS positive result (AQF Diploma)
07/27/2013 - IELTS (BC) - L-7.5 R-9.0 W-6.0 S-7.5
09/21/2013 - IELTS (IDP) - L-8.5 R-8.5 W-8.0 S-7.0 (Thank God!)
10/08/2013 - VIC SS application
10/24/2013 - VIC SS approved/Skillselect Invitation
10/30/2013 - Lodge Online Visa 190
10/31/2013 - NBI
11/15/2013 - Medicals Done (w/ wife and 2 kids)
12/05/2013 - CO Team 7 Adelaide (LM)
01/16/2014 - CO asked additional documents (contract, ITR, payslip, wife's form 80)
01/24/2014 - Uploaded additional documents
02/10/2014 - Visa Granted! Glory to God (IED - Jun. 11 2014)
03/16/2014 - Arrived in Melbourne
04/30/2014 - Started Job as Web Developer
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Posts: 292Member
Joined: Apr 12, 2013
here's my TRA assesment result:
Your employment evidence meets TRA requirements of working as a Mechanical ENg'g Tech'n for a minimum of 3 years at trade level and meets the currency requirement....it is recommended that you contact DBIP (DIAC) to find out whether you may also need to seek points test advice from TRA.
I'm planning to claim 15points, since my related experience was already 13years...
company A- March 2000- Sept 2006
company B- Sept 2006--Oct 2007
company C--Oct 2007--July 2010
current company--July 2010---present
** my job responsibilities and scope of work were almost exactly the same althroughout these 4 companies, Equipment Technician/ Associate equipment Engineer...I do have legit evidences for all these employments...
is it safe to claim 15 points without having TRA points test advice? (AUD$600.00)
Do i need to contact DIAC? pls share the email address then...
312511 Mechanical Engineering Draftsperson
05/06/13--ielts exam BC (LRWS=6.5)
06/20/13--submitted documents to TRA, 07/31/13--TRA Result Unsuccesful
07/27/13-- me and wife ielts exam IDP (still zero points)
08/23/13--submitted new TRA docs, 10/10/13--result succesful
10/26/13-3rd take ielts BC (LRS=7, W6.5)
11/10/13-EOI submitted, SA SS application submitted--deffered
10/06/15-CDR result succesful
12/08/15- PTE result L76/R79/S86/W74
01/29/16- Victoria SS --denied
08/08/16- submitted new Victoria SS application
09/23/16- ITA received
10/31/16- lodge Visa 190
12/02/16- DG baby...thank you Lord..long journey reached the visa finish line
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Make sure na enough ang docs coe+jd, salary payslip or itr to back up your claim..
Goodluck!!
Sep 24, 2011 - IELTS (L-8 R-8 W-8 S-7.5 : OBS-8)
Jan 04, 2012 - EA application submitted | Feb 23, 2012 - EA assessment result (IE ANZSCO 233511)
May 8, 2012 - Lodged GSM 175 online application | June 4, 2012 - CO Allocated
June 22, 2012 - Medicals Finalized | Aug 30, 2012 - PCCs Completed (PH, UAE, USA)
Sep 3, 2012 - Visa Granted (IED Jun 11, 2013) Thank You Lord!
Oct 16-28, 2012 - Initial Entry Completed - Sydney
July 28, 2013 - Final move to Perth
Sep 9, 2013 - Started work with the same company i worked for in UAE/USA
Oct 28, 2013 - Moved to another company..
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312511 Mechanical Engineering Draftsperson
05/06/13--ielts exam BC (LRWS=6.5)
06/20/13--submitted documents to TRA, 07/31/13--TRA Result Unsuccesful
07/27/13-- me and wife ielts exam IDP (still zero points)
08/23/13--submitted new TRA docs, 10/10/13--result succesful
10/26/13-3rd take ielts BC (LRS=7, W6.5)
11/10/13-EOI submitted, SA SS application submitted--deffered
10/06/15-CDR result succesful
12/08/15- PTE result L76/R79/S86/W74
01/29/16- Victoria SS --denied
08/08/16- submitted new Victoria SS application
09/23/16- ITA received
10/31/16- lodge Visa 190
12/02/16- DG baby...thank you Lord..long journey reached the visa finish line
Posts: 203Member
Joined: Sep 18, 2013
9/19/13 - submission of documents to VETASSESS (Chemist - 234211)
9/23/13 - VETASSESS confirmed receipt of my documents
10/24/13 - IELTS Speaking Test (IDP)
10/26/13 - IELTS L, R and W Test (IDP)
11/08/13 - IELTS Results (L=8, R=9, W=7, S=7.5, OBS=8)
11/21/13 - VETASSESS Assessment came out POSITIVE
11/25/13 - Submitted EOI (70 points) and Application for QLD SS
12/11/13 - Initial contact with QLD for SS
12/17/13 - Submission of documents for QLD SS
12/18/13 - Invitation to lodge VISA 190
01/10/14 - lodge VISA
01/12/14 - Front load documents
01/20/14 - Medical at SLEC Global City
01/27/14 - medical of hubby and baby shows "no health examination required... "
01/28/14 - SLEC uploaded my medical.
01/31/14 - as per UPS, medical docs/certificates/xray films were received by DIAC
02/07/14 - my medical is finalized. "no health examination required..."
02/13/14 - all documents in immi account are tagged "RECEIVED"
02/19/14 - VISA grant! Direct grant under team 33, GSM Brisbane. IED: Sept. 12, 2014
05/10/14 - flight to Brisbane, Queensland
05/21/14 - my first day of work
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Posts: 72Member
Joined: Sep 06, 2013
May 23, 2013 - IELTS exam (Speaking)
May 23, 2013 - Certificate of Employment
May 25, 2013 - IELTS exam (Listening, writing, reading)
June 4, 2013 - submitted online ACS application; send documents via online
June 4, 2013 - ACS acknowledged the applications, and already being assessed.
June 7, 2013 - IELTS (results: 9.0, 8.0, 7.5, 7.5)
Sept 3, 2013 - ACS skills assessment (261111): Suitable
Sept 4, 2013 - started to work on EOI
Sept 12, 2013 - EOI submitted (190, nominated/permanent )
Oct 11, 2013 - submitted 2nd online ACS application. ACS acknowledged.
Oct 22, 2013 - 2nd ACS skills assessment (263111) : Suitable
Oct 23, 2013 - EOI submitted (489, regional/provisional)
Oct 30, 2013 - Initial contact by WA (for 263111)
Oct 31, 2013 - Invitation from WA to apply for State Nomination
Nov 06, 2013 - Submitted application for WA State nomination
Dec 10, 2013 - Received WA sponsorship
Dec 11, 2013 - Submitted signed NOM agreement
Dec 12, 2013 - Received invitation to apply for Visa
Jan 8, 2014 - Lodged visa application
Jan 14, 2014 - Uploaded documents
Jan 24, 2014 - Medical at St Luke's Global
Mar 5, 2014 - contacted by CO
Mar 7, 2014 - submitted passport, IELTS and form 80
Mar 14, 2014 - CO confirmed receipt of docs; no further docs required; (Brisbane.gsm.team34)
April 2014 - Visa granted
May 2014 - Flight to Perth
Sept 2014 - First IT Job in Perth
Mar 2015 - Second IT Job in Perth
2016 - Studied Cert IV in Training and Assessment
2017 - Moved from Perth WA to Geelong VIC and became an IT Trainer
2019 - Australian Citizenship - YAY!
This forum has been such a great help.
Thanks PinoyAU!
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Joined: Jun 06, 2016
tanong ko lang bakit si skillselect ang computation nya sa experience ko ay 10 pts. Hindi po ba dapat 15 point kung and assessment ni ACS is considered equate to work after Feb 2012? salamatsa sasagot.
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baka may maling input ka
18 Mar '16 IELTS Results
06 Apr '16 EA CDR Skills Assessment submitted
26 Apr '16 EA Skills Assessment Positive Outcome
06 May '16 PTE-A Exam
07 May '16 PTE- A Results & Submitted EOI
11 May '16 Got ITA
02 Jun '16 Lodge Visa
04 Jul '16 Direct Grant
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Hi @Captain_A, yup next year pa pala ako mag add ng experience ...tagal narin kasi di nakapag chek nakalimutan na hehe. salamat!
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all the best to you
18 Mar '16 IELTS Results
06 Apr '16 EA CDR Skills Assessment submitted
26 Apr '16 EA Skills Assessment Positive Outcome
06 May '16 PTE-A Exam
07 May '16 PTE- A Results & Submitted EOI
11 May '16 Got ITA
02 Jun '16 Lodge Visa
04 Jul '16 Direct Grant
Believe you can... and you're halfway there.... - Roosevelt