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  • kindredkindred Sydney
    Posts: 537Member
    Joined: Jul 15, 2013
    Hi

    IELTS - 5/ 06/13-- L-8.5; S-8.5;W-8.5;R-8.5
    ANZSCO CODE:241411
    Assessment (AITSL) - 18/07/13
    Assessment Positive Result-11/09/13
    EOI lodged-11/09/13
    Invitation SI(Subclass 189)-16/09/13
    Visa lodgement-05/10/13
    PCC and All docs upload- 10/10/13
    Form 80 upload- 24/10/13
    Medicals Done/ Uploaded ( SLEC )- 31/10/13
    Uploaded Docs Received (DIBP screen )- 31/10/13
    CO allocated- 20/11/13- GSM Brisbane Team 34
    Visa Granted: 25/11/13
    Date first hired: Jan 2014
    Registered and accredited BOSTES- April 2014
    Second Job- April 2014 Language College Sydney- Part time
    Third Job- July 2015 to present ESL Full time high school teacher in a Grammar School in Sydney
    --In Him alone is our strength--- in God's grace!!

  • kindredkindred Sydney
    Posts: 537Member
    Joined: Jul 15, 2013
    Newbie here in the forum. Lodged 189 only last october 5. Uploaded all docs ( except Form 80 and medicals ).
    As of today's check at evisa, status is in process..

    Hehehehe. I know though it takes 12 months for priority 3 category.
    Hope to hear from others in the same boat.

    P.S.
    Anyone knows how to upload profile pic here?

    IELTS - 5/ 06/13-- L-8.5; S-8.5;W-8.5;R-8.5
    ANZSCO CODE:241411
    Assessment (AITSL) - 18/07/13
    Assessment Positive Result-11/09/13
    EOI lodged-11/09/13
    Invitation SI(Subclass 189)-16/09/13
    Visa lodgement-05/10/13
    PCC and All docs upload- 10/10/13
    Form 80 upload- 24/10/13
    Medicals Done/ Uploaded ( SLEC )- 31/10/13
    Uploaded Docs Received (DIBP screen )- 31/10/13
    CO allocated- 20/11/13- GSM Brisbane Team 34
    Visa Granted: 25/11/13
    Date first hired: Jan 2014
    Registered and accredited BOSTES- April 2014
    Second Job- April 2014 Language College Sydney- Part time
    Third Job- July 2015 to present ESL Full time high school teacher in a Grammar School in Sydney
    --In Him alone is our strength--- in God's grace!!

  • ErmitonioErmitonio Perth
    Posts: 15Member
    Joined: Sep 20, 2013
    welcome kindred!

    add mo yung timelines mo dito ha! :) good luck!
  • kindredkindred Sydney
    Posts: 537Member
    Joined: Jul 15, 2013
    @Ermitonio thanks din! Pero san ko add ? Dun ba sa isang thread na may google?

    IELTS - 5/ 06/13-- L-8.5; S-8.5;W-8.5;R-8.5
    ANZSCO CODE:241411
    Assessment (AITSL) - 18/07/13
    Assessment Positive Result-11/09/13
    EOI lodged-11/09/13
    Invitation SI(Subclass 189)-16/09/13
    Visa lodgement-05/10/13
    PCC and All docs upload- 10/10/13
    Form 80 upload- 24/10/13
    Medicals Done/ Uploaded ( SLEC )- 31/10/13
    Uploaded Docs Received (DIBP screen )- 31/10/13
    CO allocated- 20/11/13- GSM Brisbane Team 34
    Visa Granted: 25/11/13
    Date first hired: Jan 2014
    Registered and accredited BOSTES- April 2014
    Second Job- April 2014 Language College Sydney- Part time
    Third Job- July 2015 to present ESL Full time high school teacher in a Grammar School in Sydney
    --In Him alone is our strength--- in God's grace!!

  • ErmitonioErmitonio Perth
    Posts: 15Member
    Joined: Sep 20, 2013
    hello kindred, dito sa link na ito -> timelines
  • beauty_beastbeauty_beast Mandaluyong
    Posts: 1Member
    Joined: Oct 24, 2013
    hi Everyone! good day. :) newbies lang dito pero I find the comments helpful kaya nag-join. Sa mga kababayan natin na nabasa ko at nakapag-start na ng application and malapit na ma-grant ang application, CONGRATS po! :)

    I am accounting grad pero unfortunately hindi pa nakakapasa for CPA board. I got my CAT last year hoping that it would help me achieve my Oz dream. di pala sya recognized. nagstart na ako magpa-assess sa CPAA, waiting for their reply. based sa mga nabasa ko dito sa forum, I think I will have a long journey to my goal.

    I need your help lang po, please, anyone. Can I apply for subclass 189 kahit hindi ako CPA dito sa pinas? Please help po.

    Salamat.
  • BububuBububu Mandaluyong
    Posts: 21Member
    Joined: Sep 26, 2013
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  • dapogidapogi Sydney
    Posts: 136Member
    Joined: Aug 12, 2013
    @beauty_beast
    hi Everyone! good day. :) newbies lang dito pero I find the comments helpful kaya nag-join. Sa mga kababayan natin na nabasa ko at nakapag-start na ng application and malapit na ma-grant ang application, CONGRATS po! :)

    I am accounting grad pero unfortunately hindi pa nakakapasa for CPA board. I got my CAT last year hoping that it would help me achieve my Oz dream. di pala sya recognized. nagstart na ako magpa-assess sa CPAA, waiting for their reply. based sa mga nabasa ko dito sa forum, I think I will have a long journey to my goal.

    I need your help lang po, please, anyone. Can I apply for subclass 189 kahit hindi ako CPA dito sa pinas? Please help po.

    Salamat.
    I think you have a chance to be accredited as an accountant, but yung CPA designation sa Pinas is a big plus. Wala pa naman agreement ang CPAA and PICPA that will discount your CAT. They'll look at your undergrad credentials naman (syllabus, diploma, etc.). Just take the IELTS and give it a try. You might want to try to send them an email for your questions. At most three days may sagot na. God bless. :)

    ANZSCO Code 221111: Accountant - General

    15 Jun 2013 - Took IELTS Exam
    28 Jun 2013 - IELTS Results (Passed): L - 8.5 R - 7.5 W - 7.0 S - 7.0
    Currently waiting for experience to hit 5 years (Oct 2013)
    23 Oct 2013 - Applied for Assessment with CPA Australia
    27 Nov 2013 - Received Assessment: Positive
    27 Nov 2013 - Submitted EOI: 65 pts
    02 Dec 2013 - Received Invite: Visa Subclass 189
    11 Dec 2013 - Uploaded most of my documents
    17 Dec 2013 - Medicals cleared
    21 Dec 2013 - Uploaded NBI Clearance
    07 Jan 2014 - Front-loaded Form 80
    13 Jan 2014 - CO Allocated - GSM Adelaide Team 6
    16 Jan 2014 - Uploaded additional Documents
    13 Feb 2014 - Visa Grant! (IED: 13 Dec 2014)

    "And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are called according to His purpose." - Romans 8:28

  • IslanderndCityIslanderndCity Adelaide
    Posts: 2,274Member, Moderator
    Joined: Mar 30, 2013
    Just curious po, active pa po itong google spreadsheet na ito? Is this for all here who have lodged & paid for any visa?

    Assessed Occupation: Industrial Engineer (IE 233511)
    Achieved Goal: Australia PR (Permanent Resident). Thanks God!

    ...sharpening my core gifts now...
    ...working on new, better goals...

    Bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. ~Luke 6:28~

  • TasBurrfootTasBurrfoot Osaka
    Posts: 4,336Member
    Joined: Feb 24, 2011
    Just curious po, active pa po itong google spreadsheet na ito? Is this for all here who have lodged & paid for any visa?
    mate, if you open the link, you can actually answer your own question... :)

    Primary Applicant: Wife
    Accountant (General): 221111

    04 Aug 2012 - IELTS (Academic Module)
    07 Aug 2012 - IELTS (Academic Module) Speaking Part
    17 Aug 2012 - IELTS Results (L: 8.5 R: 8.5 W: 7.0 S: 7.5 OBS: 8.0)
    24 Aug 2012 - CPAA Submitted (docs mailed same day via SG EMS)
    25 Sep 2012 - Received +Skills Assessment from CPAA
    25 Sep 2012 - Lodged EOI Application with 70pts
    30 Sep 2012 - Invited by DIAC to apply for 189 Visa
    01 Oct 2012 - Submitted 189 Visa Application
    20 Oct 2012 - Medical Examinations
    23 Oct 2012 - CO Assigned; Team 7 - SA
    05 Nov 2012 - Submitted SG PCC and NBI Clearance
    06 Nov 2012 - Visa Granted (IED: 23/10/2013)
    03 Apr 2013 - Flight to MEL
    03 Jun 2013 - started work
    12 Jun 2013 - wife started work
    15 Jun 2016 - applied for citizenship
    29 Jul 2016 - citizenship examination
    20 Oct 2016 - Aussie, Aussie, Aussie Oi Oi Oi!!

  • IslanderndCityIslanderndCity Adelaide
    Posts: 2,274Member, Moderator
    Joined: Mar 30, 2013
    Just curious po, active pa po itong google spreadsheet na ito? Is this for all here who have lodged & paid for any visa?
    mate, if you open the link, you can actually answer your own question... :)
    Yes boss. I opened the link. December 3, 2013 ang latest EOI submitted date.
    Baka hindi tama ang nakita :)

    Assessed Occupation: Industrial Engineer (IE 233511)
    Achieved Goal: Australia PR (Permanent Resident). Thanks God!

    ...sharpening my core gifts now...
    ...working on new, better goals...

    Bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. ~Luke 6:28~

  • gene_borresgene_borres North Ryde
    Posts: 114Member
    Joined: May 12, 2013
    Dumb question lng, san po pwede iattach ang form 80? Ifront load ko kasi cya. Tnx.

    April 2013 - Ielts exam - R 8.5 S 7.5 W 7.0 L 7.5 OBS 7.5
    April 2013 - Submitted documents for assessment (AIMS)
    June 2013 - Assessed as Medical Laboratory Technician
    July 2013 - Submitted EOI 60 pts
    Dec 2013 - submitted application for AIMS exam
    March 2014 - AIMS exam
    May 13 2014 - successful AIMS result (Lab scientist)
    May 13 2014 - updated EOI to Medical Laboratory Scientist
    May 19 2014 - applied for NBI clearance
    May 26 2014 - invitation to lodge 189
    May 26-Jun 5 - gathered all necessary documents
    Jun 6 2014 - lodged visa 189 application, uploaded scanned documents
    Jun 9 2014 - medicals at SLBGC
    Jun 26 2014 - CO assignment (gsm adelaide team 6)
    June 30 2014 - uploaded ITR and payslips
    July 2 2014 - Visa Granted!
    IED - June 11 2015
    Jan 16 2015 - touchdown Sydney :D
    Xxx xx xxxx - first day of work

  • catajellcatajell Sydney
    Posts: 94Member
    Joined: Nov 01, 2012
    @dapogi : Oo, di naman kelangan CPA ka, it's only a plus pero di naman talaga nagmamatter sabi ng agent ko. So try mo na lang! :)

    Visa Application: Skill Independent 189
    Accountant (General): 221111
    Migration agent: Pinoy Australia Pty Ltd

    14 Feb 2013 - IELTS (Academic Module)
    19 Apr 2013 - IELTS Remarking Results (L: 8.0 R: 8.5 W: 7.0 S: 7.0 OBS: 7.5)
    13 Jun 2013 – Submitted application to ICAA
    07 Jan 2014 - Received positive Skills Assessment from ICAA (delay is due to additional syllabi requests)
    24 Jan 2014 - Lodged EOI Application with 60 pts
    10 Feb 2014 - Invited by DIAC to apply for 189 Visa
    09 Apr 2014 - Submitted 189 Visa Application
    11 Apr 2014 – NBI clearance obtained
    15 May 2014 - CO Assigned: Team 7 – GSM Adelaide
    15 May 2014 - Medical Examinations and Singapore Police Clearance requested
    05 Jun 2014 – Singapore Police Clearance obtained
    10 Jun 2014 - Visa Granted!!
    19 Sep 2014 - Hubby got hired while offshore
    28 Sep 2014 - Flight to Sydney
    29 Sep 2014 - Hubby started work

  • ErmitonioErmitonio Perth
    Posts: 15Member
    Joined: Sep 20, 2013
    musta na kayo dyan? my timelines are pinoysmove.com/australia/profile/ermitonio. @IslanderndCity, I like your signature .. you admitted that you procrastinated, yeah wasted time talaga ano? ganon din ako nun.
  • IslanderndCityIslanderndCity Adelaide
    Posts: 2,274Member, Moderator
    Joined: Mar 30, 2013
    @Ermitonio thanks. yes, what's important is we learned from it. musta na application mo po?

    Assessed Occupation: Industrial Engineer (IE 233511)
    Achieved Goal: Australia PR (Permanent Resident). Thanks God!

    ...sharpening my core gifts now...
    ...working on new, better goals...

    Bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. ~Luke 6:28~

  • johanncedrickjohanncedrick Riyadh
    Posts: 97Member
    Joined: Nov 29, 2014
    @saintluke hi sir, gud pm po....sir I'm just new here, i don't know if this is the right thread for this, but can you please help me? I just took my my IELTS exam (General) last april 2014 and got a score of R-8.0, L-7.5, W- 6.5 and S- 6.5 with OBS of 7.0. I will take my AIMS assesment this coming March 2015. I just want to know if I can already apply for EOI despite of having a 0 pts on IELTS after I pass my assesment,.Coz if I calculate my total pts as of now, I already have the 60pts passing rate. I am 30.yrs old, 8 yrs working experience and a Bachelor degree holder..I am just wondering kung pede n ko di kumuha o mgretake ulit ng IELTS kac nka 60 pts naman n po ko.... Hope you can help me. Thank you po....
  • DMAU2012DMAU2012 Brisbane
    Posts: 132Member
    Joined: Jun 28, 2012
    Hi @johanncedrick , Pede ka ng mag lodge ng EOI as long as pasado ka na sa assessment. Dpat sure ka sa 8 years experience mo na relevant sa pinassess mo profession. Saka pede ka pa ulit magtake ng IELTS mukang kaya mo pang pataasin ang score mo hanggang di ka pa anman nagpapasa ng assessment. Para mas mataas pa 60 pts ang makuha mo, sure na sure na yun.

    Oks.

    233411

    Apr 29, 2014 - Lodged 60 Pts.
    May 26, 2014 - Invited to lodge Visa189
    June 03, 2014 - Lodged Visa189 / Uploaded docs
    June 10, 2014 - NBI
    June 17, 2014 - Medical @SLBGC
    June 24, 2014 - CO Allocation Team 06 GSM Adelaide (CO - Laura Watters)
    June 27, 2014 - Uploaded requested additional docs, Form 80, IELTS result
    July 08, 2014 - Visa Grant (IED - June 10, 2015) (CO-Lisa Caratozzolo)
    Nov 15, 2014 - Me and my wife arrived in Melbourne :)
    Kung may tiyaga may nilaga
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18d1OUvt_9wyGxVrUu-12aoo8evhMKwGFHrf2smAaoU4/edit?pli=1#gid=424981924

  • johanncedrickjohanncedrick Riyadh
    Posts: 97Member
    Joined: Nov 29, 2014
    @DMAU2012 thank you po sa reply....di pa po b enuf 60 pts mam? or pataasan tlga points? or maiinvitan din man pero mas mbilis kung mtaas pts? gnun po b yun?.thank u po ulit
  • DMAU2012DMAU2012 Brisbane
    Posts: 132Member
    Joined: Jun 28, 2012
    Hi @johanncedrick , Sir po.. okay na ang 60 pts lalo kapag konti lang ang kalaban mo sa SLOTS sa ANZSCO code mo. Suggestion lang yung kuha ka ulit ng IELTS kasi madami ka pa namang time. At mas mataas ang points mas priority. :D oks na ang 60 pts.

    233411

    Apr 29, 2014 - Lodged 60 Pts.
    May 26, 2014 - Invited to lodge Visa189
    June 03, 2014 - Lodged Visa189 / Uploaded docs
    June 10, 2014 - NBI
    June 17, 2014 - Medical @SLBGC
    June 24, 2014 - CO Allocation Team 06 GSM Adelaide (CO - Laura Watters)
    June 27, 2014 - Uploaded requested additional docs, Form 80, IELTS result
    July 08, 2014 - Visa Grant (IED - June 10, 2015) (CO-Lisa Caratozzolo)
    Nov 15, 2014 - Me and my wife arrived in Melbourne :)
    Kung may tiyaga may nilaga
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18d1OUvt_9wyGxVrUu-12aoo8evhMKwGFHrf2smAaoU4/edit?pli=1#gid=424981924

  • johanncedrickjohanncedrick Riyadh
    Posts: 97Member
    Joined: Nov 29, 2014
    @DMAU2012 hi sir may mga list ka b dyan ng mga docs n kelanagn ko iprepare before i apply for eoi?pra sana once n mainvitan ako di n ko mgcram pa pag preprae ng docs at hndfa na...thank u po ng marami.
  • ChubmoksChubmoks Oak Park
    Posts: 53Member
    Joined: Feb 10, 2015
    Kelan normally nag aassign ng CO? Is it after ma submit lahat ng requirements?

    Nagbayad kami end of February 2015. Then na sumbmit namin lahat ng docs first week of March. Then un medical last March 12, 2015. Then SG CoC March 31, 2015.

    But now, d pa kmi kinontact ng CO.. Ibig ba sabihin nun, wala pang naka assign na CO?
  • wizardofOzwizardofOz Brisbane
    Posts: 1,342Member
    Joined: Feb 19, 2013
    @Chubmoks between 1 to 1.5 months makikipag-communicate na sa inyo yung CO nyo or iggrant na lang nya yung visa kung wala syang concerns

    If there are concerns with your Medical, waiting time is 2 months the least as far as I know

    Nominated Occupation: Plant or Production Engineer (ANZSCO 233513)

    03/23/13: IELTS GT Exam (British Council)
    04/05/13: IELTS Results L:7.0/R:7.5/W:7.5/S:8.5 OBS: 7.5
    makalipas ang isang taon....
    04/20/14: CDR Application sent to EA
    07/09/14: EA started reviewing my CDR
    08/08/14: EA Assessment Positive Results (Thank you LORD!!!)
    09/16/14: Requested EA for a Duplicate Letter (Original Outcome Letter lost during mail delivery to PH)
    09/21/14: Duplicate Assessment Letter received (Finally!!)
    09/21/14: EOI Lodged (70 pts)
    09/22/14: Invited to lodge Skilled - Independent (Subclass 189) visa
    09/23/14: Obtained Overseas PCC
    09/29/14: Obtained NBI Clearance
    10/12/14: Lodged application - Visa Subclass 189
    10/12/14: Uploaded docs
    10/20/14: Medicals Done
    12/06/14: Direct Grant! To GOD Be the Glory!
    12/13/14: Completed Initial Entry - Sydney

  • ChubmoksChubmoks Oak Park
    Posts: 53Member
    Joined: Feb 10, 2015
    @wizardofOz Thanks Bro.. ung 1 to 1.5months from Visa Lodgement ba un or from the moment na complete mo lahat ng requirements? Tiis tiis mode talaga hehehe
  • LittleFingerLittleFinger Manila, Philippines
    Posts: 75Member
    Joined: Apr 12, 2014
    @Chubmoks from the time you paid for the visa fee
  • ChubmoksChubmoks Oak Park
    Posts: 53Member
    Joined: Feb 10, 2015
    @LittleFinger Thanks Bro.. Oks napo application namin.. Nagbayad pala kmi Feb 26, 2015 tas lumabas April 16.. Salamat po sa lahat ng informative comments nu.. Challenge ngaun hanap ng work online..
  • J_OzJ_Oz Sydney
    Posts: 1,002Member
    Joined: Jun 05, 2014
    @Chubmoks congrats

    Developer Programmer (261312)
    08.25.2014: Completed gathering of documents
    08.29.2014: ACS Skills Assessment
    09.09.2014: ACS Result - OK - Thank you Lord!
    10.18.2014: IELTS IDP Makati
    10.31.2014: IELTS- R:8.5 L:7.5 S:7 W:7 - OBS:7.5) - Thank you Lord!
    02.03.2015: Submitted EOI
    02.26.2015: Received ITA 189
    04.24.2015: Lodged Visa - Day 1
    04.25.2015: Uploaded docs - Day 2
    05.08.2015: Wife NBI Clearance - Day 15 || 05.25.2015: Uploaded NBI Clearance - Day 32
    05.28.2015: Medicals @ SLEC BGC Day 35
    05.30.2015: Medicals Finalised - Day 37
    06.11.2015: CO Allocated - Day 48
    07.02.2015 - Visa Granted! Thank you LORD! Glory to God!
    10.15.2015 - Arrived in SYD - Jer 29:11

  • liamliam Riyadh
    Posts: 58Member
    Joined: Dec 12, 2015
    Hello guys, I hope someone can answer my questions, I just uploaded the documents requested by my C.O. today. How many day po bago sya ulit sumagot? Thanks

    ANZSCO 233411: Electronics Engineer
    Aug, 2015 - IELTS GT L6.5 W6.5 R6.5 S6.5
    Mar, 2016 - Submitted EA Assessment fast track
    Apr, 2016 - EA Positive Assessment Result
    Aug, 2016 - IELTS GT L7 W7 R7 S7
    Sep, 2016 - Lodge EOI, 189-65
    Sep, 2016 - ITA Received
    Oct, 7, 2016 - Visa Application Lodged
    Oct, 18, 2016 - CO Contact, request for PCC and Medical
    Nov, 8, 2016 - Uploaded required documents
    Nov, 15 2016 - VISA Grant (the culmination of all the hard work and sacrifices... Thank you Lord....)

  • se29mse29m Perth
    Posts: 2,144Member, Moderator
    Joined: Sep 14, 2015
    @liam usually 28 days from submitting the docs

    233211 Civil Engineer
    30/09/15 - VETASSESS Lodged - 133112 Project Builder
    09/10/15 - IELTS Results: L-7.5, R-7.0, W-6.0, S-7.5 OBS-7.0
    19/10/15 - PTE A Results: L-82, R-74, S-90, W-76 OAS-79
    26/11/15 - Obtained NBI Clearance
    09/12/15 - VETASSESS Results - NEGATIVE!!!
    12/01/16 - Submitted CDR to Engineers Australia
    22/01/16 - EA Positive Results - Bachelor's Degree with 4 years 8 months skilled employment
    22/01/16 - Lodged EOI 189 (60pts)
    03/02/16 - Received 189 ITA
    11/02/16 - Health Clearance Provided - No Action Required
    18/02/16 - Obtained SG CoC
    26/02/16 - Lodged 189 Visa
    15/03/16 - Direct Grant - IED 11/02/2017
    25/05/16 - Big Move Perth!
    16/06/16 - Started Casual Work
    11/07/16 - Permanent Full-time Work

    Now for the Citizenship Journey

    26/08/2019 - Applied and acknowledgement letter received
    27/09/2019 - Test Email Invite for 19/12/2019
    01/10/2019 - Actual Test/Interview Date
    01/10/2019 - Approval Date (received the approval letter from the post 11/10/2019)
    05/02/2020 - Ceremony Date (received the email 10/01/2020)

  • liamliam Riyadh
    Posts: 58Member
    Joined: Dec 12, 2015
    Thanks @se29m

    ANZSCO 233411: Electronics Engineer
    Aug, 2015 - IELTS GT L6.5 W6.5 R6.5 S6.5
    Mar, 2016 - Submitted EA Assessment fast track
    Apr, 2016 - EA Positive Assessment Result
    Aug, 2016 - IELTS GT L7 W7 R7 S7
    Sep, 2016 - Lodge EOI, 189-65
    Sep, 2016 - ITA Received
    Oct, 7, 2016 - Visa Application Lodged
    Oct, 18, 2016 - CO Contact, request for PCC and Medical
    Nov, 8, 2016 - Uploaded required documents
    Nov, 15 2016 - VISA Grant (the culmination of all the hard work and sacrifices... Thank you Lord....)

  • Myk_2319Myk_2319 Philippines
    Posts: 50Member
    Joined: Jul 17, 2017
    Hello po, tanung ko lng sana if may bearing ba sa pag-approve ng EOI or application ng visa 189 kung currently wala ka work??
    More than 8 years na experience ang credited ni Engrs Australia as Telco Network Engr po. Kso currently unemployed ako for 1yr 2 months na, busy asikaso lng ng steps for migration. Kasi kung needed to be employed at the time of application, kailangan ko na din magtrabaho pla before submit application.
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