Adding Secondary Applicants (Married/De-Facto/Engaged)

agentKams · March 2019

@anntotsky nung dineclare ko iyong non-migrating dependent namin form 1221, passport at nbi clearance lang kasi more than 18 yrs old na. nasa mother din iyong bata na dineclare ko sa application. however, discretion niyo din kasi iyong pagsama sa knila sa application as immediate family. I am only basing this sa experience namin sa application kasi may balak kaming kunin iyong anak ng partner ko kaya dineclare namin siya. wait natin sa mga ibang ka-forum baka may same case na hindi na nila dineclare.

michaelguanzon_ust · March 2019

@anntotsky opo eh otherwise baka mgkaproblem ka po sa pag sama sa partner m kung sabay kayo. not unless may iba ng nkapag try na Yes ang sagot pero sabay pdin sila nagapply ng visa. anyone po?

anntotsky · March 2019

@michaelguanzon_ust nako bakit ganun.. .nung sinagot ko "no" nung nag next ako nawala na information ng partner? eh mag cclaim kami 5 points sana... pano yun prang naguluhan ako?

Mizai01 · March 2019

@anntotsky need mo siya iupdate na yes, kung kasama dependent sa application mo, pagkakaintindi ko sa "future visa application" e kasama na yung instance na maiinvite kayo based on that EOI. same case tayo may de facto partner din ako claiming 5 points din.

anntotsky · March 2019

@Mizai01 thank u.. so bale ang sinagot ko

Do you have relatives that will apply in future - no
Is your partner joining you - yes

cacophony · March 2019

Hi po, ask ko lang po kasi i have a girlfriend and I'm planning to propose to her anytime soon. I'm currently waiting for my ITA for 189/190/489. Is there a way that I can include her sa application ko given our current status? Di po kami living together. But we've been official since Feb 2018.

Mizai01 · March 2019

@cacophony just a question, waiting ka ng ITA why not add her as your dependent in your EOI?

cacophony · March 2019

@Mizai01 Pwede po ba yun kahit di pa kasal at di pa engaged?

cucci · March 2019

@cacophony Try to see if you can fit into de facto relationship status:

What is a De Facto relationship according to Australian Law?
According to Australian Family Law, a De Facto (meaning: in practice) relationship means:

The couple has lived together or apart only on a temporary basis
The partners have a reciprocal commitment to a shared life
The relationship is authentic and will continue in the future
The partners are not related
The couple must have been in the relationship for at least 12 months before applying for the visa
The partners are not legally married
The partners are not related to each other

Partners living together
Living together is a part of some relationships. Here’s what you need to know:

The one-year relationship yardstick doesn’t require the partners to have lived together for the whole period of a year
The Australian authorities appreciate that you and your partner may have had to live apart for a period, due to work or family commitments.
Having said that, the couple has to prove that the separation was temporary, and that they had lived together at some point from the beginning of the relationship.

Evidence to prove De Facto Relationship
Providing the Australian authorities with the history of your relationship is one way to do it. You will have to submit a signed relationship statement that will provide the authorities with all details.

Such a statement should cover:

Details of how, when and where you met your partner
How your relationship developed over time
Proof of commitment when it comes to supporting each other: emotionally, financially and physically
If there was a period of separation due to certain commitments, how you kept close contact even during that time
Your plans for the future as a pair.

francinatra · April 2019

Hi guys! I'm relatively new here. Hope you could bear with me.

I am planning on submitting my EOI this July 2019 and I'm bringing my girlfriend with me (de facto). I already have been collecting documents as early as last year.

Magtatanong lang sana ako sa mga de facto success stories kung pwede ako makahingi ng copies ng documents na sinubmit ninyo? I promise to use it only for personal purposes and will also help others upon success.

Thank you in advance and good luck sa ating lahat!

hailey2620 · May 2019

Hello po. Me and my boyfriend are planning to apply in Aus. Qualified po ba kami sa de facto even if we are not living together. Sa case kasi namin madalang kami mag kasama. Seaman po kasi sya. 2 to 3 months lang bakasyon nya.

karlboy · May 2019

My question is for people who have lodged their visas (189/190). The initial fee is AUD 3,755, do I need to pay the additional AUD 1,875 for the de facto partner? Just trying to compute costs.

rnmh · May 2019

@karlboy Hi, if kasama yung defacto/dependent sa application kasama na yun sa bayad (isang application lang so isang bayaran lang). That will be around 200k Php dahil 3755+1875

karlboy · May 2019

rnmh said:
@karlboy Hi, if kasama yung defacto/dependent sa application kasama na yun sa bayad (isang application lang so isang bayaran lang). That will be around 200k Php dahil 3755+1875

I see, so hindi considered na "applicant" din yung de facto partner. Sa options kasi nung Visa Pricing Calculator ang tanong is ilan yung additional applicants na above or below 18 yrs old.

Ito kasi yung sabi sa immi website
"Cost
The visa costs AUD3,755 for the main applicant.

There is also a charge for each family member who applies for the visa with you.

To work out what your visa will cost use the Visa Pricing Estimator.

You might have to pay an extra charge for any applicant 18 years old or older who has less than functional English. This charge is the second instalment. Pay it only when we ask you to. We ask for the charge only if we are going to grant the visa.

The second instalment charge for family members is AUD4,885.

The Visa Pricing Estimator does not include the second instalment or other costs. You might also have to pay other costs for health checks, police certificates and biometrics."

Ito yung link sa calculator
https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/visa-pricing-estimator?visa=189-63

agentKams · May 2019

@karlboy maybe what he meant was, isang application lang ang ilodge where you can add your dependant/applicant. so dun sa application niyo na 189/190 if there will be two of you, the visa cost will be for the main applicant and the additional applicant which is your de-facto partner.

karlboy · May 2019

agentKams said:
@karlboy maybe what he meant was, isang application lang ang ilodge where you can add your dependant/applicant. so dun sa application niyo na 189/190 if there will be two of you, the visa cost will be for the main applicant and the additional applicant which is your de-facto partner.

@agentKams yup, sorry if I sound confrontational... hehe

ayun po yung initial ko din na assumption, kaya napatanong ako baka sakali meron nakapag lodge and ma confirm. To be safe yun na lang din ang ang pag-ipunan namin.

agentKams · May 2019

@karlboy no prob.

all the best in your application!

roliboy · June 2019

Hi new here also, mas ok ba na magapply nalang kami ng defacto kesa habulin ko ang 190. alam niyo na para di na magexam. ung isa sa amin is nasa Aus na under 189. And tama ba na ang iaapply ko na visa is Partner (Provisional) visa 309. sa mga nag apply na magkano ang unang bayad nito at kaya bang gawin to ng walang agent. maraming salamat mate

cacophony · June 2019

ask ko lang po, is girlfriend considered de facto?

karlboy · June 2019

Possible po ba na multiple EOI na yung isa isasama ko yung de facto partner and yung isa hindi? Kasi nabasa ko dito affected ng de facto partner yung invite/grant if hindi masyadong strong yung evidences.

roliboy · June 2019

@cacophony said:

ask ko lang po, is girlfriend considered de facto?

yes

cres_rod · June 2019

Guys.. anu ba ina upload nyo sa (Member of Family Unit, Evidence of) for dependents? if defacto kayo? can we leave it blank since we already uploaded our relationship evidence?

cucci · June 2019

@cres_rod Form 54 can be downloaded here

cres_rod · June 2019

@cucci said:

@cres_rod Form 54 can be downloaded here

Thank you..

steven · June 2019

Hello po mga kapatid :-) Sino po dito yung ikinasal while waiting for the ITA? or sino po sa inyo ang may idea kung okay lang po ba na "Certified True Copy of Marriage Certificate" from Local Civil Registrar yung e su-submit upon lodging visa 189/190? Kasi 1 to 3 months pa po bago makuha yung PSA copy, baka matagalan sa visa lodging :-(

Thank you very much in advance sa makapag bigay ng advice :-)

karlboy · July 2019

Meron po ba dito yung may sample ng statutory declaration ng parent?

cucci · July 2019

@karlboy in support of de facto relationship po ba? If parents are Australian citizens or PRs, use Form 888. https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/form-listing/forms/888.pdf Otherwise use affidavit format using the form 888 for what to put in the affidavit.

cres_rod · July 2019

Guys we need some advice regarding our 190 app.. My partner (defacto) is the Main applicant, we both have a child from our previous relationship. The problem is she cannot secure the consent for her daughter from her ex husband for some "ampalaya reason". so she opted to file a custody case in court which will take maybe a year or more. We have until July 20 to lodge our Visa everything's ready naman na sana..
Our question is how can we proceed with the lodging? we should include her in migrating member? or in the non migrating member? while waiting for the court decision.. TIA guys.

cucci · July 2019

@cres_rod I would go with proceeding with the lodging and just wait for the court decision regarding your partner's child. After which she can file for a child visa (subclass 101) when she gets a favorable decision from the Ph court. How old is the child/dependent, btw?

karlboy · July 2019

> @cucci said:
> @karlboy in support of de facto relationship po ba? If parents are Australian citizens or PRs, use Form 888. https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/form-listing/forms/888.pdf Otherwise use affidavit format using the form 888 for what to put in the affidavit.

Thanks po! Although with the changed in points sa 189 and 489 baka di na lang sumama si partner kasi ang taas na ng minimum points na kinoconsider nila for pro rata skills

Based dito ang pag asa na lang ata ng mga de facto is 190

https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/working-in-australia/skillselect/invitation-rounds