186 Direct Entry Question

rheirhei · March 20

@kagenui said:
Hello...Share ko lang po sa inyo for timeline count nyo din.

Visa 186 ENS Direct Entry
Offshore via DIY (no agent)
Non-accredited sponsor
Family of 4
Mechanical Engineer
VIC

Nomination Application: April 27, 2023
Skills Assessment EA Application: June 23, 2023
Skills Assessment EA Result: October 13, 2023
Visa Application: November 14, 2023
Nomination Approval: November 23, 2023
Visa Granted: FEBRUARY 6, 2024 (Received to Finalised)

total of 10 months ang waiting time....but if naisabay ko na agad ung visa application maybe 7 months lang ang itinagal.

Madali lang ang DIY basta follow nyo lang ung checklist ng documents and send nyo lahat ng meron kayo na related. It wont hurt.

Thank you sa inyo sa mga nakasagot din sa inquiries ko big help din.

Yours is next kaya tiwala lang.

Congrats, ako waiting pa din po onshore

Accredited - Melbourne - Systems Analyst
Nomination and Visa application : 15/12/2023
Nomination approved: 12/03/2024 - no S56

praying mgrant na din soooon

baiken · March 20

@Anya said:
Hello! Hoping someone can help. I am currently on 482 visa and already onshore. My previous boss has a company and wants to hire me. Can I accept po and maybe apply 186 visa? Thank you.

yes you can definitely get yourself sponsored for a 186 visa, whis is always best dahil PR visa na yun, but please do your due diligence for this one, need to get your previous boss to do all the neccessary works to make it happen, of course with your help, submitting all the documents they will need to get you sponsored

i would imagine you will need to get your sponsorship transferred, and normally, just my 2cents, it is better to get it done with a registered migration agent, para hindi ka po malito, people can definitely DIY, but with how AU time/sched/balance is, medyo mahirap to DIY (just talking from my experience), unless you have the patience to research all the neccessary details to make it happen...

all the best po!

God Bless!

batangmanlalakbay · March 24

Hello po, asking for a friend..
Ano po mga pwedeng applyan na agency para makapagwork sa AU?
Electrician ang friend ko with decades of experience sa barko.
Mid-50s na sya kaya ok lang kahit wala ng PR pathway. Gusto lang talaga makapagwork na onshore sa AU.
Salamat po!

1stym · May 8

Hello, sana may mkapansin, ambigat ng pinag dadaanan ko ngaun. Inisponsoran ako ng company nmin at nag lodge nmn ung agent nmin walang tanong2 sken hindi man lng nagtanong kung meron b s family memeber ko n may health conditions n alanganin. Ngaun nag lodge ung agent ng 186 DE which is walang waiver. Hira n hirap nako kakaisip kung pwede bang mngyare ung gusto ni agent..😔 since wala daw waiver pwede daw tanggalin ung anak ko s application at palalabasin na hindi ko n sya family member bsta maipakita s immigration na may kukupkop sa anak ko. May asd kasi ang anak ko. Kung may waiver sana pwedeng ilaban. Kaso nga walang waiver ung 186 DE. Ang sken nmn pwede ko nmn tanggapin ung gnung plano nya pra pa isave lng ung application nmin apat kasi kmi s application. So kung tatanggalin ung bunso ko mgiging 3 nlng ung maiiwan. Sabi ko sa agent nmin pra malabo yan, sabi nya pwede daw kasi lalabas n hindi ko n sya family member nun. Hayyyy buhay akala ko tlga may waiver ung nilodge nila sken, ngaun prang damage control ung ginagawa nila.

Ozdrims · May 8

@1stym said:
Hello, sana may mkapansin, ambigat ng pinag dadaanan ko ngaun. Inisponsoran ako ng company nmin at nag lodge nmn ung agent nmin walang tanong2 sken hindi man lng nagtanong kung meron b s family memeber ko n may health conditions n alanganin. Ngaun nag lodge ung agent ng 186 DE which is walang waiver. Hira n hirap nako kakaisip kung pwede bang mngyare ung gusto ni agent..😔 since wala daw waiver pwede daw tanggalin ung anak ko s application at palalabasin na hindi ko n sya family member bsta maipakita s immigration na may kukupkop sa anak ko. May asd kasi ang anak ko. Kung may waiver sana pwedeng ilaban. Kaso nga walang waiver ung 186 DE. Ang sken nmn pwede ko nmn tanggapin ung gnung plano nya pra pa isave lng ung application nmin apat kasi kmi s application. So kung tatanggalin ung bunso ko mgiging 3 nlng ung maiiwan. Sabi ko sa agent nmin pra malabo yan, sabi nya pwede daw kasi lalabas n hindi ko n sya family member nun. Hayyyy buhay akala ko tlga may waiver ung nilodge nila sken, ngaun prang damage control ung ginagawa nila.

May code of conduct po ang mga agent , looks dubious naman yung proposal nya , you may dodge the bullet now ,but may have consequences later on.
I suggest you run through other options besides the pathway na inapply sayo and get a second opinion from other MARA agents.

1stym · May 8

@Ozdrims said:

@1stym said:
Hello, sana may mkapansin, ambigat ng pinag dadaanan ko ngaun. Inisponsoran ako ng company nmin at nag lodge nmn ung agent nmin walang tanong2 sken hindi man lng nagtanong kung meron b s family memeber ko n may health conditions n alanganin. Ngaun nag lodge ung agent ng 186 DE which is walang waiver. Hira n hirap nako kakaisip kung pwede bang mngyare ung gusto ni agent..😔 since wala daw waiver pwede daw tanggalin ung anak ko s application at palalabasin na hindi ko n sya family member bsta maipakita s immigration na may kukupkop sa anak ko. May asd kasi ang anak ko. Kung may waiver sana pwedeng ilaban. Kaso nga walang waiver ung 186 DE. Ang sken nmn pwede ko nmn tanggapin ung gnung plano nya pra pa isave lng ung application nmin apat kasi kmi s application. So kung tatanggalin ung bunso ko mgiging 3 nlng ung maiiwan. Sabi ko sa agent nmin pra malabo yan, sabi nya pwede daw kasi lalabas n hindi ko n sya family member nun. Hayyyy buhay akala ko tlga may waiver ung nilodge nila sken, ngaun prang damage control ung ginagawa nila.

May code of conduct po ang mga agent , looks dubious naman yung proposal nya , you may dodge the bullet now ,but may have consequences later on.
I suggest you run through other options besides the pathway na inapply sayo and get a second opinion from other MARA agents.

Kaya nga nkakainis, ni hindi man lng inexplain ung visa n ilalodge nya o kaya man lng nag tanong muna. Ako tuloyvang naiipit ngaun. Kung iwiwithdraw ko nmn pra akong nag tapon ng 15k pero kung un tlga ang dapat gawin eh wala tlga mgagawa. Ngaun kasi gumagawa sya ng praan pra magawan ng praan ung mga pag kakamali nila.

maguero · May 9

@1stym said:
Hello, sana may mkapansin, ambigat ng pinag dadaanan ko ngaun. Inisponsoran ako ng company nmin at nag lodge nmn ung agent nmin walang tanong2 sken hindi man lng nagtanong kung meron b s family memeber ko n may health conditions n alanganin. Ngaun nag lodge ung agent ng 186 DE which is walang waiver. Hira n hirap nako kakaisip kung pwede bang mngyare ung gusto ni agent..😔 since wala daw waiver pwede daw tanggalin ung anak ko s application at palalabasin na hindi ko n sya family member bsta maipakita s immigration na may kukupkop sa anak ko. May asd kasi ang anak ko. Kung may waiver sana pwedeng ilaban. Kaso nga walang waiver ung 186 DE. Ang sken nmn pwede ko nmn tanggapin ung gnung plano nya pra pa isave lng ung application nmin apat kasi kmi s application. So kung tatanggalin ung bunso ko mgiging 3 nlng ung maiiwan. Sabi ko sa agent nmin pra malabo yan, sabi nya pwede daw kasi lalabas n hindi ko n sya family member nun. Hayyyy buhay akala ko tlga may waiver ung nilodge nila sken, ngaun prang damage control ung ginagawa nila.

Parang may mali sa advice ng agent nyo. Hindi naman dahil tinanggal nyo sa application yung anak nyo and iiwan sa mag-aalaga e ibig sabihin di nyo na sya family member. Kailangan nyo pa rin syang ideclare as a non-migrating family member and sa pagkakaalam ko the child will still be subject to a medical exam because alam naman ng immigration na may chance na in the future kunin on a subsequent entrant or child visa ang non-migrating family members. The only way na your child will no longer be a part of your family is if s/he is adopted.

Try to consult another agent. If you don't declare your child, that's fraud naman and pag nalaman yan in the future, mas mabigat ang consequences. Double check as well if your current agent is a MARA agent. You can actually report them for putting you in this situation.

1stym · May 9

@maguero said:

@1stym said:
Hello, sana may mkapansin, ambigat ng pinag dadaanan ko ngaun. Inisponsoran ako ng company nmin at nag lodge nmn ung agent nmin walang tanong2 sken hindi man lng nagtanong kung meron b s family memeber ko n may health conditions n alanganin. Ngaun nag lodge ung agent ng 186 DE which is walang waiver. Hira n hirap nako kakaisip kung pwede bang mngyare ung gusto ni agent..😔 since wala daw waiver pwede daw tanggalin ung anak ko s application at palalabasin na hindi ko n sya family member bsta maipakita s immigration na may kukupkop sa anak ko. May asd kasi ang anak ko. Kung may waiver sana pwedeng ilaban. Kaso nga walang waiver ung 186 DE. Ang sken nmn pwede ko nmn tanggapin ung gnung plano nya pra pa isave lng ung application nmin apat kasi kmi s application. So kung tatanggalin ung bunso ko mgiging 3 nlng ung maiiwan. Sabi ko sa agent nmin pra malabo yan, sabi nya pwede daw kasi lalabas n hindi ko n sya family member nun. Hayyyy buhay akala ko tlga may waiver ung nilodge nila sken, ngaun prang damage control ung ginagawa nila.

Parang may mali sa advice ng agent nyo. Hindi naman dahil tinanggal nyo sa application yung anak nyo and iiwan sa mag-aalaga e ibig sabihin di nyo na sya family member. Kailangan nyo pa rin syang ideclare as a non-migrating family member and sa pagkakaalam ko the child will still be subject to a medical exam because alam naman ng immigration na may chance na in the future kunin on a subsequent entrant or child visa ang non-migrating family members. The only way na your child will no longer be a part of your family is if s/he is adopted.

Try to consult another agent. If you don't declare your child, that's fraud naman and pag nalaman yan in the future, mas mabigat ang consequences. Double check as well if your current agent is a MARA agent. You can actually report them for putting you in this situation.

Thank you po s pagreply. Ang sabi po kasi nya gnito daw bale mangyayare.. gagawa kmi ng kasulatan n hindi n nmin sya family member, kumbaga meron ng kukupkop s kanya pero hindi daw palalabasin n adoption. Prang damage control n nga ang ginagawa eh. Umpisa palang dapat tinanong n nila ako kung meron b s family member ang may health problem syempre sasabhin ko agad kasi 2021 p kmi nag papa therapy ng anak ko eh. Walang tanong2 bsta kinuha mga papers nmin at nilodge ng 186DE. ngaun lng ako nalinawan n dapat pala trt pra may waiver. Ang nkakatawa nga eh hindi ung agent ang nkikipag usap sken kundi ung staff nya pala kala ko un n ung agent. Kaya di mawarian kung tama b ung suggestion nya.

Ozdrims · May 9

I leave this here -

https://shglawyers.com.au/how-does-australias-migration-system-deal-with-disability/

maguero · May 9

Thank you po s pagreply. Ang sabi po kasi nya gnito daw bale mangyayare.. gagawa kmi ng kasulatan n hindi n nmin sya family member, kumbaga meron ng kukupkop s kanya pero hindi daw palalabasin n adoption. Prang damage control n nga ang ginagawa eh. Umpisa palang dapat tinanong n nila ako kung meron b s family member ang may health problem syempre sasabhin ko agad kasi 2021 p kmi nag papa therapy ng anak ko eh. Walang tanong2 bsta kinuha mga papers nmin at nilodge ng 186DE. ngaun lng ako nalinawan n dapat pala trt pra may waiver. Ang nkakatawa nga eh hindi ung agent ang nkikipag usap sken kundi ung staff nya pala kala ko un n ung agent. Kaya di mawarian kung tama b ung suggestion nya.

Kung hindi naman well versed in family law ang agent nyo, I don't think they're in a position to advise you on how to remove a child from your family. Tsaka migration ang pinag-uusapan, bakit nauwi sa pamimigay ng anak ang discussion.

You can Google this, an Australian visa won't be issued if it's detrimental to a child. I think, at hindi ako migration agent, Immigration will not look kindly at the letter that your agent suggested. It sounds like child abandonment di ba? The child is legally still your child (not adopted out) pero sinasabi sa letter na tinatakwil na sya ng family mo. Ano pa ba yun. Parang lalong hindi maggrant yung visa if it will cause a child to be abandoned.

I strongly suggest you consult a MARA agent or an immigration lawyer at this point.

_sebodemacho · May 9

@maguero said:

@1stym said: Thank you po s pagreply. Ang sabi po kasi nya gnito daw bale mangyayare.. gagawa kmi ng kasulatan n hindi n nmin sya family member, kumbaga meron ng kukupkop s kanya pero hindi daw palalabasin n adoption. Prang damage control n nga ang ginagawa eh. Umpisa palang dapat tinanong n nila ako kung meron b s family member ang may health problem syempre sasabhin ko agad kasi 2021 p kmi nag papa therapy ng anak ko eh. Walang tanong2 bsta kinuha mga papers nmin at nilodge ng 186DE. ngaun lng ako nalinawan n dapat pala trt pra may waiver. Ang nkakatawa nga eh hindi ung agent ang nkikipag usap sken kundi ung staff nya pala kala ko un n ung agent. Kaya di mawarian kung tama b ung suggestion nya.

Kung hindi naman well versed in family law ang agent nyo, I don't think they're in a position to advise you on how to remove a child from your family. Tsaka migration ang pinag-uusapan, bakit nauwi sa pamimigay ng anak ang discussion.

You can Google this, an Australian visa won't be issued if it's detrimental to a child. I think, at hindi ako migration agent, Immigration will not look kindly at the letter that your agent suggested. It sounds like child abandonment di ba? The child is legally still your child (not adopted out) pero sinasabi sa letter na tinatakwil na sya ng family mo. Ano pa ba yun. Parang lalong hindi maggrant yung visa if it will cause a child to be abandoned.

I strongly suggest you consult a MARA agent or an immigration lawyer at this point.

I was about to say the same thing. Migration at visa ang usapan, tapos napunta sa pamimigay ng anak.

Sobrang unsound and careless nung advice ng agent. Merong certain rules na sinusunod for migrating children, or people in general, with disability or sickness. And it's within the migration agents' capacity and responsibility to provide and communicate that information clearly to their clients. Dapat sila yung mas may alam tungkol dyan.

I strongly agree with the previous comment na mag-consult ka for 2nd opinion with another reputable agent or better yet, with a migration lawyer.

It is already a good start that you detected this as unreasonable, albeit you've already spent money for the visa application. Yung susunod mong actions ang magdedefine ng migration journey nyo given the situation.

mhalik80 · May 9

Question po:

I will be 44 this june, may chance akong marelocate for work to Australia this Sept.
May chance pa po ba kaming ma PR considering sa age?

Ozdrims · May 9

@mhalik80 said:
Question po:

I will be 44 this june, may chance akong marelocate for work to Australia this Sept.
May chance pa po ba kaming ma PR considering sa age?

Ano po work nila ,r u in a niche industry gaya po ng aged care? Or an employer sponsoring workers through a DAMA or LA ,check nyo po if may agreements na ganito employer nyo with AU, they may waive the age requirement when you apply for a PR visa.Nabasa ko kasi si South Australia may DAMA sila .
Pwede po , mainvite this FY or next FY ng skilled visa , yung visa nyo ba is TR ? You need to stay in the employer for 2-3 years before being qualified to apply for an ENS 186 visa .

Which state po ba sila ? You can search South Australia DAMA for this option , they will accept under 55 years of age when you are transitioning to a PR visa depends sa occupation nyo may inooffer sila na age or skills concessions

Ozdrims · May 9

You can check this out with your occupation for concessions

https://www.migration.sa.gov.au/occupation-lists/dama-occupation-list

Ozdrims · May 9

Sample of SA DAMA with occupation Aged or Disabled Carer

1stym · May 10

@_sebodemacho said:

@maguero said:

@1stym said: Thank you po s pagreply. Ang sabi po kasi nya gnito daw bale mangyayare.. gagawa kmi ng kasulatan n hindi n nmin sya family member, kumbaga meron ng kukupkop s kanya pero hindi daw palalabasin n adoption. Prang damage control n nga ang ginagawa eh. Umpisa palang dapat tinanong n nila ako kung meron b s family member ang may health problem syempre sasabhin ko agad kasi 2021 p kmi nag papa therapy ng anak ko eh. Walang tanong2 bsta kinuha mga papers nmin at nilodge ng 186DE. ngaun lng ako nalinawan n dapat pala trt pra may waiver. Ang nkakatawa nga eh hindi ung agent ang nkikipag usap sken kundi ung staff nya pala kala ko un n ung agent. Kaya di mawarian kung tama b ung suggestion nya.

Kung hindi naman well versed in family law ang agent nyo, I don't think they're in a position to advise you on how to remove a child from your family. Tsaka migration ang pinag-uusapan, bakit nauwi sa pamimigay ng anak ang discussion.

You can Google this, an Australian visa won't be issued if it's detrimental to a child. I think, at hindi ako migration agent, Immigration will not look kindly at the letter that your agent suggested. It sounds like child abandonment di ba? The child is legally still your child (not adopted out) pero sinasabi sa letter na tinatakwil na sya ng family mo. Ano pa ba yun. Parang lalong hindi maggrant yung visa if it will cause a child to be abandoned.

I strongly suggest you consult a MARA agent or an immigration lawyer at this point.

I was about to say the same thing. Migration at visa ang usapan, tapos napunta sa pamimigay ng anak.

Sobrang unsound and careless nung advice ng agent. Merong certain rules na sinusunod for migrating children, or people in general, with disability or sickness. And it's within the migration agents' capacity and responsibility to provide and communicate that information clearly to their clients. Dapat sila yung mas may alam tungkol dyan.

I strongly agree with the previous comment na mag-consult ka for 2nd opinion with another reputable agent or better yet, with a migration lawyer.

It is already a good start that you detected this as unreasonable, albeit you've already spent money for the visa application. Yung susunod mong actions ang magdedefine ng migration journey nyo given the situation.

@maguero said:

Thank you po s pagreply. Ang sabi po kasi nya gnito daw bale mangyayare.. gagawa kmi ng kasulatan n hindi n nmin sya family member, kumbaga meron ng kukupkop s kanya pero hindi daw palalabasin n adoption. Prang damage control n nga ang ginagawa eh. Umpisa palang dapat tinanong n nila ako kung meron b s family member ang may health problem syempre sasabhin ko agad kasi 2021 p kmi nag papa therapy ng anak ko eh. Walang tanong2 bsta kinuha mga papers nmin at nilodge ng 186DE. ngaun lng ako nalinawan n dapat pala trt pra may waiver. Ang nkakatawa nga eh hindi ung agent ang nkikipag usap sken kundi ung staff nya pala kala ko un n ung agent. Kaya di mawarian kung tama b ung suggestion nya.

Kung hindi naman well versed in family law ang agent nyo, I don't think they're in a position to advise you on how to remove a child from your family. Tsaka migration ang pinag-uusapan, bakit nauwi sa pamimigay ng anak ang discussion.

You can Google this, an Australian visa won't be issued if it's detrimental to a child. I think, at hindi ako migration agent, Immigration will not look kindly at the letter that your agent suggested. It sounds like child abandonment di ba? The child is legally still your child (not adopted out) pero sinasabi sa letter na tinatakwil na sya ng family mo. Ano pa ba yun. Parang lalong hindi maggrant yung visa if it will cause a child to be abandoned.

I strongly suggest you consult a MARA agent or an immigration lawyer at this point.

Nag pa consult na po ako s migration lawyer. Eto po sabi nya. Parang malabo nga tlga ung gusto ni agent.

maguero · May 10

@1stym said:

@_sebodemacho said:

@maguero said:

@1stym said: Thank you po s pagreply. Ang sabi po kasi nya gnito daw bale mangyayare.. gagawa kmi ng kasulatan n hindi n nmin sya family member, kumbaga meron ng kukupkop s kanya pero hindi daw palalabasin n adoption. Prang damage control n nga ang ginagawa eh. Umpisa palang dapat tinanong n nila ako kung meron b s family member ang may health problem syempre sasabhin ko agad kasi 2021 p kmi nag papa therapy ng anak ko eh. Walang tanong2 bsta kinuha mga papers nmin at nilodge ng 186DE. ngaun lng ako nalinawan n dapat pala trt pra may waiver. Ang nkakatawa nga eh hindi ung agent ang nkikipag usap sken kundi ung staff nya pala kala ko un n ung agent. Kaya di mawarian kung tama b ung suggestion nya.

Kung hindi naman well versed in family law ang agent nyo, I don't think they're in a position to advise you on how to remove a child from your family. Tsaka migration ang pinag-uusapan, bakit nauwi sa pamimigay ng anak ang discussion.

You can Google this, an Australian visa won't be issued if it's detrimental to a child. I think, at hindi ako migration agent, Immigration will not look kindly at the letter that your agent suggested. It sounds like child abandonment di ba? The child is legally still your child (not adopted out) pero sinasabi sa letter na tinatakwil na sya ng family mo. Ano pa ba yun. Parang lalong hindi maggrant yung visa if it will cause a child to be abandoned.

I strongly suggest you consult a MARA agent or an immigration lawyer at this point.

I was about to say the same thing. Migration at visa ang usapan, tapos napunta sa pamimigay ng anak.

Sobrang unsound and careless nung advice ng agent. Merong certain rules na sinusunod for migrating children, or people in general, with disability or sickness. And it's within the migration agents' capacity and responsibility to provide and communicate that information clearly to their clients. Dapat sila yung mas may alam tungkol dyan.

I strongly agree with the previous comment na mag-consult ka for 2nd opinion with another reputable agent or better yet, with a migration lawyer.

It is already a good start that you detected this as unreasonable, albeit you've already spent money for the visa application. Yung susunod mong actions ang magdedefine ng migration journey nyo given the situation.

@maguero said:

Thank you po s pagreply. Ang sabi po kasi nya gnito daw bale mangyayare.. gagawa kmi ng kasulatan n hindi n nmin sya family member, kumbaga meron ng kukupkop s kanya pero hindi daw palalabasin n adoption. Prang damage control n nga ang ginagawa eh. Umpisa palang dapat tinanong n nila ako kung meron b s family member ang may health problem syempre sasabhin ko agad kasi 2021 p kmi nag papa therapy ng anak ko eh. Walang tanong2 bsta kinuha mga papers nmin at nilodge ng 186DE. ngaun lng ako nalinawan n dapat pala trt pra may waiver. Ang nkakatawa nga eh hindi ung agent ang nkikipag usap sken kundi ung staff nya pala kala ko un n ung agent. Kaya di mawarian kung tama b ung suggestion nya.

Kung hindi naman well versed in family law ang agent nyo, I don't think they're in a position to advise you on how to remove a child from your family. Tsaka migration ang pinag-uusapan, bakit nauwi sa pamimigay ng anak ang discussion.

You can Google this, an Australian visa won't be issued if it's detrimental to a child. I think, at hindi ako migration agent, Immigration will not look kindly at the letter that your agent suggested. It sounds like child abandonment di ba? The child is legally still your child (not adopted out) pero sinasabi sa letter na tinatakwil na sya ng family mo. Ano pa ba yun. Parang lalong hindi maggrant yung visa if it will cause a child to be abandoned.

I strongly suggest you consult a MARA agent or an immigration lawyer at this point.

Nag pa consult na po ako s migration lawyer. Eto po sabi nya. Parang malabo nga tlga ung gusto ni agent.

Nagpa medical na pala yung anak mo, so may medical exam record na sya associated with your application. Lalong naging absurd yung suggestion ng agent mo to suddenly declare her as not being part of your family kasi magiging obvious na nilulusutan nyo na lang ang possible issue with her ASD.

Does your sponsor know na may problema with your visa application? If not, I suggest you discuss this problem with your sponsor. Explain na nagkamali sa visa na naapplyan. Unang-una, dahil may nagastos na sila for your nomination and if you withdraw your application and resubmit, as suggested by the second agent, it might mean another payment and submission of paperwork on their end. Tapos syempre, it will lead to delays in the visa grant. Sino ba yung pumili sa agent na ito? Kung sila, then they really need to know that he's behaved unprofessionally. He was very careless with your application and very disrespectful of your family. He has wasted everyone's time and money.

Regardless of who hired that agent, when you explain to them what needs to be done to correct the situation, I suggest that ask for a refund of your payment because of how they handled the situation. It's not just the carelessness, it's the disrespect that's so bad. If they're a MARA agent sabihin mo that you will file a complaint with MARA. He was practically suggesting you commit fraud and child abandonment to correct his mistake.

_sebodemacho · May 10

@maguero said:

@1stym said:

@_sebodemacho said:

@maguero said:

@1stym said: Thank you po s pagreply. Ang sabi po kasi nya gnito daw bale mangyayare.. gagawa kmi ng kasulatan n hindi n nmin sya family member, kumbaga meron ng kukupkop s kanya pero hindi daw palalabasin n adoption. Prang damage control n nga ang ginagawa eh. Umpisa palang dapat tinanong n nila ako kung meron b s family member ang may health problem syempre sasabhin ko agad kasi 2021 p kmi nag papa therapy ng anak ko eh. Walang tanong2 bsta kinuha mga papers nmin at nilodge ng 186DE. ngaun lng ako nalinawan n dapat pala trt pra may waiver. Ang nkakatawa nga eh hindi ung agent ang nkikipag usap sken kundi ung staff nya pala kala ko un n ung agent. Kaya di mawarian kung tama b ung suggestion nya.

Kung hindi naman well versed in family law ang agent nyo, I don't think they're in a position to advise you on how to remove a child from your family. Tsaka migration ang pinag-uusapan, bakit nauwi sa pamimigay ng anak ang discussion.

You can Google this, an Australian visa won't be issued if it's detrimental to a child. I think, at hindi ako migration agent, Immigration will not look kindly at the letter that your agent suggested. It sounds like child abandonment di ba? The child is legally still your child (not adopted out) pero sinasabi sa letter na tinatakwil na sya ng family mo. Ano pa ba yun. Parang lalong hindi maggrant yung visa if it will cause a child to be abandoned.

I strongly suggest you consult a MARA agent or an immigration lawyer at this point.

I was about to say the same thing. Migration at visa ang usapan, tapos napunta sa pamimigay ng anak.

Sobrang unsound and careless nung advice ng agent. Merong certain rules na sinusunod for migrating children, or people in general, with disability or sickness. And it's within the migration agents' capacity and responsibility to provide and communicate that information clearly to their clients. Dapat sila yung mas may alam tungkol dyan.

I strongly agree with the previous comment na mag-consult ka for 2nd opinion with another reputable agent or better yet, with a migration lawyer.

It is already a good start that you detected this as unreasonable, albeit you've already spent money for the visa application. Yung susunod mong actions ang magdedefine ng migration journey nyo given the situation.

@maguero said:

Thank you po s pagreply. Ang sabi po kasi nya gnito daw bale mangyayare.. gagawa kmi ng kasulatan n hindi n nmin sya family member, kumbaga meron ng kukupkop s kanya pero hindi daw palalabasin n adoption. Prang damage control n nga ang ginagawa eh. Umpisa palang dapat tinanong n nila ako kung meron b s family member ang may health problem syempre sasabhin ko agad kasi 2021 p kmi nag papa therapy ng anak ko eh. Walang tanong2 bsta kinuha mga papers nmin at nilodge ng 186DE. ngaun lng ako nalinawan n dapat pala trt pra may waiver. Ang nkakatawa nga eh hindi ung agent ang nkikipag usap sken kundi ung staff nya pala kala ko un n ung agent. Kaya di mawarian kung tama b ung suggestion nya.

Kung hindi naman well versed in family law ang agent nyo, I don't think they're in a position to advise you on how to remove a child from your family. Tsaka migration ang pinag-uusapan, bakit nauwi sa pamimigay ng anak ang discussion.

You can Google this, an Australian visa won't be issued if it's detrimental to a child. I think, at hindi ako migration agent, Immigration will not look kindly at the letter that your agent suggested. It sounds like child abandonment di ba? The child is legally still your child (not adopted out) pero sinasabi sa letter na tinatakwil na sya ng family mo. Ano pa ba yun. Parang lalong hindi maggrant yung visa if it will cause a child to be abandoned.

I strongly suggest you consult a MARA agent or an immigration lawyer at this point.

Nag pa consult na po ako s migration lawyer. Eto po sabi nya. Parang malabo nga tlga ung gusto ni agent.

Nagpa medical na pala yung anak mo, so may medical exam record na sya associated with your application. Lalong naging absurd yung suggestion ng agent mo to suddenly declare her as not being part of your family kasi magiging obvious na nilulusutan nyo na lang ang possible issue with her ASD.

Does your sponsor know na may problema with your visa application? If not, I suggest you discuss this problem with your sponsor. Explain na nagkamali sa visa na naapplyan. Unang-una, dahil may nagastos na sila for your nomination and if you withdraw your application and resubmit, as suggested by the second agent, it might mean another payment and submission of paperwork on their end. Tapos syempre, it will lead to delays in the visa grant. Sino ba yung pumili sa agent na ito? Kung sila, then they really need to know that he's behaved unprofessionally. He was very careless with your application and very disrespectful of your family. He has wasted everyone's time and money.

Regardless of who hired that agent, when you explain to them what needs to be done to correct the situation, I suggest that ask for a refund of your payment because of how they handled the situation. It's not just the carelessness, it's the disrespect that's so bad. If they're a MARA agent sabihin mo that you will file a complaint with MARA. He was practically suggesting you commit fraud and child abandonment to correct his mistake.

Na-feel ko yung gigil ni @maguero Char!

@1stym

Definitely, agree! Discuss with your employer. Kasi in the end, kung mag lodge ng panibagong nomination and visa, gastos ulit yun. Pagusapan nyo pano nyo mababawi yung una nang nagastos from the agent as a compensation to their wrong advice and action. It's just valid to ask that since you and your employer fully entrusted the application to the agent knowing they'd do their best with due diligence and full knowledge. That's the whole point of getting an agent to begin with.

maguero · May 10

@_sebodemacho said:

@maguero said:

@1stym said:

@_sebodemacho said:

@maguero said:

@1stym said: Thank you po s pagreply. Ang sabi po kasi nya gnito daw bale mangyayare.. gagawa kmi ng kasulatan n hindi n nmin sya family member, kumbaga meron ng kukupkop s kanya pero hindi daw palalabasin n adoption. Prang damage control n nga ang ginagawa eh. Umpisa palang dapat tinanong n nila ako kung meron b s family member ang may health problem syempre sasabhin ko agad kasi 2021 p kmi nag papa therapy ng anak ko eh. Walang tanong2 bsta kinuha mga papers nmin at nilodge ng 186DE. ngaun lng ako nalinawan n dapat pala trt pra may waiver. Ang nkakatawa nga eh hindi ung agent ang nkikipag usap sken kundi ung staff nya pala kala ko un n ung agent. Kaya di mawarian kung tama b ung suggestion nya.

Kung hindi naman well versed in family law ang agent nyo, I don't think they're in a position to advise you on how to remove a child from your family. Tsaka migration ang pinag-uusapan, bakit nauwi sa pamimigay ng anak ang discussion.

You can Google this, an Australian visa won't be issued if it's detrimental to a child. I think, at hindi ako migration agent, Immigration will not look kindly at the letter that your agent suggested. It sounds like child abandonment di ba? The child is legally still your child (not adopted out) pero sinasabi sa letter na tinatakwil na sya ng family mo. Ano pa ba yun. Parang lalong hindi maggrant yung visa if it will cause a child to be abandoned.

I strongly suggest you consult a MARA agent or an immigration lawyer at this point.

I was about to say the same thing. Migration at visa ang usapan, tapos napunta sa pamimigay ng anak.

Sobrang unsound and careless nung advice ng agent. Merong certain rules na sinusunod for migrating children, or people in general, with disability or sickness. And it's within the migration agents' capacity and responsibility to provide and communicate that information clearly to their clients. Dapat sila yung mas may alam tungkol dyan.

I strongly agree with the previous comment na mag-consult ka for 2nd opinion with another reputable agent or better yet, with a migration lawyer.

It is already a good start that you detected this as unreasonable, albeit you've already spent money for the visa application. Yung susunod mong actions ang magdedefine ng migration journey nyo given the situation.

@maguero said:

Thank you po s pagreply. Ang sabi po kasi nya gnito daw bale mangyayare.. gagawa kmi ng kasulatan n hindi n nmin sya family member, kumbaga meron ng kukupkop s kanya pero hindi daw palalabasin n adoption. Prang damage control n nga ang ginagawa eh. Umpisa palang dapat tinanong n nila ako kung meron b s family member ang may health problem syempre sasabhin ko agad kasi 2021 p kmi nag papa therapy ng anak ko eh. Walang tanong2 bsta kinuha mga papers nmin at nilodge ng 186DE. ngaun lng ako nalinawan n dapat pala trt pra may waiver. Ang nkakatawa nga eh hindi ung agent ang nkikipag usap sken kundi ung staff nya pala kala ko un n ung agent. Kaya di mawarian kung tama b ung suggestion nya.

Kung hindi naman well versed in family law ang agent nyo, I don't think they're in a position to advise you on how to remove a child from your family. Tsaka migration ang pinag-uusapan, bakit nauwi sa pamimigay ng anak ang discussion.

You can Google this, an Australian visa won't be issued if it's detrimental to a child. I think, at hindi ako migration agent, Immigration will not look kindly at the letter that your agent suggested. It sounds like child abandonment di ba? The child is legally still your child (not adopted out) pero sinasabi sa letter na tinatakwil na sya ng family mo. Ano pa ba yun. Parang lalong hindi maggrant yung visa if it will cause a child to be abandoned.

I strongly suggest you consult a MARA agent or an immigration lawyer at this point.

Nag pa consult na po ako s migration lawyer. Eto po sabi nya. Parang malabo nga tlga ung gusto ni agent.

Nagpa medical na pala yung anak mo, so may medical exam record na sya associated with your application. Lalong naging absurd yung suggestion ng agent mo to suddenly declare her as not being part of your family kasi magiging obvious na nilulusutan nyo na lang ang possible issue with her ASD.

Does your sponsor know na may problema with your visa application? If not, I suggest you discuss this problem with your sponsor. Explain na nagkamali sa visa na naapplyan. Unang-una, dahil may nagastos na sila for your nomination and if you withdraw your application and resubmit, as suggested by the second agent, it might mean another payment and submission of paperwork on their end. Tapos syempre, it will lead to delays in the visa grant. Sino ba yung pumili sa agent na ito? Kung sila, then they really need to know that he's behaved unprofessionally. He was very careless with your application and very disrespectful of your family. He has wasted everyone's time and money.

Regardless of who hired that agent, when you explain to them what needs to be done to correct the situation, I suggest that ask for a refund of your payment because of how they handled the situation. It's not just the carelessness, it's the disrespect that's so bad. If they're a MARA agent sabihin mo that you will file a complaint with MARA. He was practically suggesting you commit fraud and child abandonment to correct his mistake.

Na-feel ko yung gigil ni @maguero Char!

@1stym

Definitely, agree! Discuss with your employer. Kasi in the end, kung mag lodge ng panibagong nomination and visa, gastos ulit yun. Pagusapan nyo pano nyo mababawi yung una nang nagastos from the agent as a compensation to their wrong advice and action. It's just valid to ask that since you and your employer fully entrusted the application to the agent knowing they'd do their best with due diligence and full knowledge. That's the whole point of getting an agent to begin with.

Hahaha. Nakakaloka naman kasi si agent. Nagbayad na nga ng $15k yung tao, kailangan pa nya ipamigay anak nya!

Ang tagal ko na sa forum dahil matagal bago nainvite, tapos bumalik nung nag-apply ng 887, tapos bumalik dahil ito nag-apply ng 190 pinsan ko. Sa tagal ko, ito na yata ang pinaka absurd na nabasa ko dito 🤣

Ozdrims · May 10

@1stym Can you share us the MA’s name also to give caution to others who may stumble upon the same thing.

mathilde9 · May 10

@Ozdrims said:
@1stym Can you share us the MA’s name also to give caution to others who may stumble upon the same thing.

I PMed him the same. 😅 Iwas tayo sa ganitong agents na instead makatulong, nakagulo pa. Grabe yung nangyari eh.

1stym · May 10

@maguero said:

@1stym said:

@_sebodemacho said:

@maguero said:

@1stym said: Thank you po s pagreply. Ang sabi po kasi nya gnito daw bale mangyayare.. gagawa kmi ng kasulatan n hindi n nmin sya family member, kumbaga meron ng kukupkop s kanya pero hindi daw palalabasin n adoption. Prang damage control n nga ang ginagawa eh. Umpisa palang dapat tinanong n nila ako kung meron b s family member ang may health problem syempre sasabhin ko agad kasi 2021 p kmi nag papa therapy ng anak ko eh. Walang tanong2 bsta kinuha mga papers nmin at nilodge ng 186DE. ngaun lng ako nalinawan n dapat pala trt pra may waiver. Ang nkakatawa nga eh hindi ung agent ang nkikipag usap sken kundi ung staff nya pala kala ko un n ung agent. Kaya di mawarian kung tama b ung suggestion nya.

Kung hindi naman well versed in family law ang agent nyo, I don't think they're in a position to advise you on how to remove a child from your family. Tsaka migration ang pinag-uusapan, bakit nauwi sa pamimigay ng anak ang discussion.

You can Google this, an Australian visa won't be issued if it's detrimental to a child. I think, at hindi ako migration agent, Immigration will not look kindly at the letter that your agent suggested. It sounds like child abandonment di ba? The child is legally still your child (not adopted out) pero sinasabi sa letter na tinatakwil na sya ng family mo. Ano pa ba yun. Parang lalong hindi maggrant yung visa if it will cause a child to be abandoned.

I strongly suggest you consult a MARA agent or an immigration lawyer at this point.

I was about to say the same thing. Migration at visa ang usapan, tapos napunta sa pamimigay ng anak.

Sobrang unsound and careless nung advice ng agent. Merong certain rules na sinusunod for migrating children, or people in general, with disability or sickness. And it's within the migration agents' capacity and responsibility to provide and communicate that information clearly to their clients. Dapat sila yung mas may alam tungkol dyan.

I strongly agree with the previous comment na mag-consult ka for 2nd opinion with another reputable agent or better yet, with a migration lawyer.

It is already a good start that you detected this as unreasonable, albeit you've already spent money for the visa application. Yung susunod mong actions ang magdedefine ng migration journey nyo given the situation.

@maguero said:

Thank you po s pagreply. Ang sabi po kasi nya gnito daw bale mangyayare.. gagawa kmi ng kasulatan n hindi n nmin sya family member, kumbaga meron ng kukupkop s kanya pero hindi daw palalabasin n adoption. Prang damage control n nga ang ginagawa eh. Umpisa palang dapat tinanong n nila ako kung meron b s family member ang may health problem syempre sasabhin ko agad kasi 2021 p kmi nag papa therapy ng anak ko eh. Walang tanong2 bsta kinuha mga papers nmin at nilodge ng 186DE. ngaun lng ako nalinawan n dapat pala trt pra may waiver. Ang nkakatawa nga eh hindi ung agent ang nkikipag usap sken kundi ung staff nya pala kala ko un n ung agent. Kaya di mawarian kung tama b ung suggestion nya.

Kung hindi naman well versed in family law ang agent nyo, I don't think they're in a position to advise you on how to remove a child from your family. Tsaka migration ang pinag-uusapan, bakit nauwi sa pamimigay ng anak ang discussion.

You can Google this, an Australian visa won't be issued if it's detrimental to a child. I think, at hindi ako migration agent, Immigration will not look kindly at the letter that your agent suggested. It sounds like child abandonment di ba? The child is legally still your child (not adopted out) pero sinasabi sa letter na tinatakwil na sya ng family mo. Ano pa ba yun. Parang lalong hindi maggrant yung visa if it will cause a child to be abandoned.

I strongly suggest you consult a MARA agent or an immigration lawyer at this point.

Nag pa consult na po ako s migration lawyer. Eto po sabi nya. Parang malabo nga tlga ung gusto ni agent.

Nagpa medical na pala yung anak mo, so may medical exam record na sya associated with your application. Lalong naging absurd yung suggestion ng agent mo to suddenly declare her as not being part of your family kasi magiging obvious na nilulusutan nyo na lang ang possible issue with her ASD.

Does your sponsor know na may problema with your visa application? If not, I suggest you discuss this problem with your sponsor. Explain na nagkamali sa visa na naapplyan. Unang-una, dahil may nagastos na sila for your nomination and if you withdraw your application and resubmit, as suggested by the second agent, it might mean another payment and submission of paperwork on their end. Tapos syempre, it will lead to delays in the visa grant. Sino ba yung pumili sa agent na ito? Kung sila, then they really need to know that he's behaved unprofessionally. He was very careless with your application and very disrespectful of your family. He has wasted everyone's time and money.

Regardless of who hired that agent, when you explain to them what needs to be done to correct the situation, I suggest that ask for a refund of your payment because of how they handled the situation. It's not just the carelessness, it's the disrespect that's so bad. If they're a MARA agent sabihin mo that you will file a complaint with MARA. He was practically suggesting you commit fraud and child abandonment to correct his mistake.

Kahit ako nga e tlgng hindi bilib dun s suggestion nya. Unang una kasi nka lodge na tpos bigla mo lng aalisin dahil may problema. Sabi p nga sken nung migration lawyer bkit daw kasi hindi ka man lng tinanong kung meron b s family member mo ang may health conditions? Bsta2 nlng sila nag lodge ng visa n gusto nila. Gigil din ung lawyer n pinay, nag consult ako 40mins pero inabot kmi ng 1 1/2 hr ung usapan nmin pero ok lng daw s kanya un ksi naiinis din daw sya s gnito. Sabi nya kung sya daw ang didiskarte jan withdraw daw tlga kasi umpisa palang mali na ang ginawa tpos ngaun dadagdagan pa ng mali.

1stym · May 10

@mathilde9 said:

@Ozdrims said:
@1stym Can you share us the MA’s name also to give caution to others who may stumble upon the same thing.

I PMed him the same. 😅 Iwas tayo sa ganitong agents na instead makatulong, nakagulo pa. Grabe yung nangyari eh.

Pano ba mag pm? Di pako mrunong dito msyado eh. Nkaka bastrip ung gnitong agent. Ramdam ko palang nung una ako mapapahamak s plano nya eh, aba nung tinanong ko pag na refused ung visa ano mngyayare sken? Aba sagot b nmn kumbaga s tagalog “hindi yan, tatabggapin nila yan” ano un gnun2 lng kadali?? Buti sana kung ikaw ung io.

1stym · May 10

@_sebodemacho said:

@maguero said:

@1stym said:

@_sebodemacho said:

@maguero said:

@1stym said: Thank you po s pagreply. Ang sabi po kasi nya gnito daw bale mangyayare.. gagawa kmi ng kasulatan n hindi n nmin sya family member, kumbaga meron ng kukupkop s kanya pero hindi daw palalabasin n adoption. Prang damage control n nga ang ginagawa eh. Umpisa palang dapat tinanong n nila ako kung meron b s family member ang may health problem syempre sasabhin ko agad kasi 2021 p kmi nag papa therapy ng anak ko eh. Walang tanong2 bsta kinuha mga papers nmin at nilodge ng 186DE. ngaun lng ako nalinawan n dapat pala trt pra may waiver. Ang nkakatawa nga eh hindi ung agent ang nkikipag usap sken kundi ung staff nya pala kala ko un n ung agent. Kaya di mawarian kung tama b ung suggestion nya.

Kung hindi naman well versed in family law ang agent nyo, I don't think they're in a position to advise you on how to remove a child from your family. Tsaka migration ang pinag-uusapan, bakit nauwi sa pamimigay ng anak ang discussion.

You can Google this, an Australian visa won't be issued if it's detrimental to a child. I think, at hindi ako migration agent, Immigration will not look kindly at the letter that your agent suggested. It sounds like child abandonment di ba? The child is legally still your child (not adopted out) pero sinasabi sa letter na tinatakwil na sya ng family mo. Ano pa ba yun. Parang lalong hindi maggrant yung visa if it will cause a child to be abandoned.

I strongly suggest you consult a MARA agent or an immigration lawyer at this point.

I was about to say the same thing. Migration at visa ang usapan, tapos napunta sa pamimigay ng anak.

Sobrang unsound and careless nung advice ng agent. Merong certain rules na sinusunod for migrating children, or people in general, with disability or sickness. And it's within the migration agents' capacity and responsibility to provide and communicate that information clearly to their clients. Dapat sila yung mas may alam tungkol dyan.

I strongly agree with the previous comment na mag-consult ka for 2nd opinion with another reputable agent or better yet, with a migration lawyer.

It is already a good start that you detected this as unreasonable, albeit you've already spent money for the visa application. Yung susunod mong actions ang magdedefine ng migration journey nyo given the situation.

@maguero said:

Thank you po s pagreply. Ang sabi po kasi nya gnito daw bale mangyayare.. gagawa kmi ng kasulatan n hindi n nmin sya family member, kumbaga meron ng kukupkop s kanya pero hindi daw palalabasin n adoption. Prang damage control n nga ang ginagawa eh. Umpisa palang dapat tinanong n nila ako kung meron b s family member ang may health problem syempre sasabhin ko agad kasi 2021 p kmi nag papa therapy ng anak ko eh. Walang tanong2 bsta kinuha mga papers nmin at nilodge ng 186DE. ngaun lng ako nalinawan n dapat pala trt pra may waiver. Ang nkakatawa nga eh hindi ung agent ang nkikipag usap sken kundi ung staff nya pala kala ko un n ung agent. Kaya di mawarian kung tama b ung suggestion nya.

Kung hindi naman well versed in family law ang agent nyo, I don't think they're in a position to advise you on how to remove a child from your family. Tsaka migration ang pinag-uusapan, bakit nauwi sa pamimigay ng anak ang discussion.

You can Google this, an Australian visa won't be issued if it's detrimental to a child. I think, at hindi ako migration agent, Immigration will not look kindly at the letter that your agent suggested. It sounds like child abandonment di ba? The child is legally still your child (not adopted out) pero sinasabi sa letter na tinatakwil na sya ng family mo. Ano pa ba yun. Parang lalong hindi maggrant yung visa if it will cause a child to be abandoned.

I strongly suggest you consult a MARA agent or an immigration lawyer at this point.

Nag pa consult na po ako s migration lawyer. Eto po sabi nya. Parang malabo nga tlga ung gusto ni agent.

Nagpa medical na pala yung anak mo, so may medical exam record na sya associated with your application. Lalong naging absurd yung suggestion ng agent mo to suddenly declare her as not being part of your family kasi magiging obvious na nilulusutan nyo na lang ang possible issue with her ASD.

Does your sponsor know na may problema with your visa application? If not, I suggest you discuss this problem with your sponsor. Explain na nagkamali sa visa na naapplyan. Unang-una, dahil may nagastos na sila for your nomination and if you withdraw your application and resubmit, as suggested by the second agent, it might mean another payment and submission of paperwork on their end. Tapos syempre, it will lead to delays in the visa grant. Sino ba yung pumili sa agent na ito? Kung sila, then they really need to know that he's behaved unprofessionally. He was very careless with your application and very disrespectful of your family. He has wasted everyone's time and money.

Regardless of who hired that agent, when you explain to them what needs to be done to correct the situation, I suggest that ask for a refund of your payment because of how they handled the situation. It's not just the carelessness, it's the disrespect that's so bad. If they're a MARA agent sabihin mo that you will file a complaint with MARA. He was practically suggesting you commit fraud and child abandonment to correct his mistake.

Na-feel ko yung gigil ni @maguero Char!

@1stym

Definitely, agree! Discuss with your employer. Kasi in the end, kung mag lodge ng panibagong nomination and visa, gastos ulit yun. Pagusapan nyo pano nyo mababawi yung una nang nagastos from the agent as a compensation to their wrong advice and action. It's just valid to ask that since you and your employer fully entrusted the application to the agent knowing they'd do their best with due diligence and full knowledge. That's the whole point of getting an agent to begin with.

Matagal ng agent yan dito s company nmin. Kaya pla ung iba nmin kawork pg cnsabi n kukuha sila ng ibng agent e hindi pumapayag ung company hindi dw sila mag ssponsor pg ibng agent ang kinuha whic is kaduda duda tlga. Ngaun kakausapin ko ung employer ko kung pano nila to sosolutionan.

rurumeme · July 23

Hello! Anyone who has idea po kung ano difference ng approval timeline ng 186DE between accredited sponsor & non-accredited sponsor? Meron po ba?

Thank you!

baiken · July 23

@rurumeme said:
Hello! Anyone who has idea po kung ano difference ng approval timeline ng 186DE between accredited sponsor & non-accredited sponsor? Meron po ba?

Thank you!

for me, no difference, sakto naman yung time frame na pinagdaanan ko, which is on the website for immi (during my time, up to 14 months pa ata nun)

all the best!

God Bless!