Australian Computer Society Skills Application

asfal0th · June 28

@meloy said:
Ang taas ng minimum points now sa bagong released na invitation. Para akong nanghina.

Totoo.. sa role ko nga 100 points na yung minimum sa 189.

qoobee28 · June 28

@asfal0th said:

@meloy said:
Ang taas ng minimum points now sa bagong released na invitation. Para akong nanghina.

Totoo.. sa role ko nga 100 points na yung minimum sa 189.

omg anong role po ito? also, may link po ba kayo kung san nakikita yung minimum points kada state?

malley · June 28

Hello po sana may makasagot. Nag submit ako sa ACS last May 27 pero hanggang ngayon wala pang result. Ineexpect ko siya 2 weeks ago kasi sabi sa website up to 15 days lang daw and they even advertised the faster processing times. Halos everyday ko sila tinatawagan and then nitong last, nagsabi na talaga ako na ang unfair kasi under new system ako nag submit ng application. Hindi nakaka-P56k yung tagal ng process nila. Hindi ko alam kung valid ba yung frustrations ko pero kasi may nakitita ako dito na 1-2weeks lang may result na yung assessment nila. Hindi ko na rin alam kung ano gagawin kasi pag tinatawagan ko sinasabi nila wala silang way to send a follow up kay assessor. Wala naman ako hinahabol na timeline kaya hindi ako nagmamadali pero sayang kasi yung bayad.

casssie · June 28

@malley said:
Hello po sana may makasagot. Nag submit ako sa ACS last May 27 pero hanggang ngayon wala pang result. Ineexpect ko siya 2 weeks ago kasi sabi sa website up to 15 days lang daw and they even advertised the faster processing times. Halos everyday ko sila tinatawagan and then nitong last, nagsabi na talaga ako na ang unfair kasi under new system ako nag submit ng application. Hindi nakaka-P56k yung tagal ng process nila. Hindi ko alam kung valid ba yung frustrations ko pero kasi may nakitita ako dito na 1-2weeks lang may result na yung assessment nila. Hindi ko na rin alam kung ano gagawin kasi pag tinatawagan ko sinasabi nila wala silang way to send a follow up kay assessor. Wala naman ako hinahabol na timeline kaya hindi ako nagmamadali pero sayang kasi yung bayad.

im so sorry to hear that. 1 month??? sobrang valid ng frustrations mo omg 56k yun!!! tapos ganyan service. pa refund ka kaya? its beyond processing time na eh. so far, sayo lang yung nabasa ko na ganyan katagal 🙁

mathilde9 · June 28

@casssie said:

@malley said:
Hello po sana may makasagot. Nag submit ako sa ACS last May 27 pero hanggang ngayon wala pang result. Ineexpect ko siya 2 weeks ago kasi sabi sa website up to 15 days lang daw and they even advertised the faster processing times. Halos everyday ko sila tinatawagan and then nitong last, nagsabi na talaga ako na ang unfair kasi under new system ako nag submit ng application. Hindi nakaka-P56k yung tagal ng process nila. Hindi ko alam kung valid ba yung frustrations ko pero kasi may nakitita ako dito na 1-2weeks lang may result na yung assessment nila. Hindi ko na rin alam kung ano gagawin kasi pag tinatawagan ko sinasabi nila wala silang way to send a follow up kay assessor. Wala naman ako hinahabol na timeline kaya hindi ako nagmamadali pero sayang kasi yung bayad.

im so sorry to hear that. 1 month??? sobrang valid ng frustrations mo omg 56k yun!!! tapos ganyan service. pa refund ka kaya? its beyond processing time na eh. so far, sayo lang yung nabasa ko na ganyan katagal 🙁

Yes medyo matagal nga yan given na ang promise nila is faster processing. Ang naiisip ko lang na possible reason bakit nagtatagal eh:
-baka may hindi macontact na employer mo for verification
-baka may addl docs required (pero this one alam ko makakareceive ka dapat ng email, please check your spam)

Kapag ganitong mga newly launched system and process madami pa talagang bumps. Sana mareceive mo na soon ang positive assessment.

malley · June 28

@casssie said:

@malley said:
Hello po sana may makasagot. Nag submit ako sa ACS last May 27 pero hanggang ngayon wala pang result. Ineexpect ko siya 2 weeks ago kasi sabi sa website up to 15 days lang daw and they even advertised the faster processing times. Halos everyday ko sila tinatawagan and then nitong last, nagsabi na talaga ako na ang unfair kasi under new system ako nag submit ng application. Hindi nakaka-P56k yung tagal ng process nila. Hindi ko alam kung valid ba yung frustrations ko pero kasi may nakitita ako dito na 1-2weeks lang may result na yung assessment nila. Hindi ko na rin alam kung ano gagawin kasi pag tinatawagan ko sinasabi nila wala silang way to send a follow up kay assessor. Wala naman ako hinahabol na timeline kaya hindi ako nagmamadali pero sayang kasi yung bayad.

im so sorry to hear that. 1 month??? sobrang valid ng frustrations mo omg 56k yun!!! tapos ganyan service. pa refund ka kaya? its beyond processing time na eh. so far, sayo lang yung nabasa ko na ganyan katagal 🙁

Siguro i-raise ko na lang yung refund kung 6 weeks wala pa rin. Wala rin naman kasi akong choice eh huhu

malley · June 28

@mathilde9 said:

@casssie said:

@malley said:
Hello po sana may makasagot. Nag submit ako sa ACS last May 27 pero hanggang ngayon wala pang result. Ineexpect ko siya 2 weeks ago kasi sabi sa website up to 15 days lang daw and they even advertised the faster processing times. Halos everyday ko sila tinatawagan and then nitong last, nagsabi na talaga ako na ang unfair kasi under new system ako nag submit ng application. Hindi nakaka-P56k yung tagal ng process nila. Hindi ko alam kung valid ba yung frustrations ko pero kasi may nakitita ako dito na 1-2weeks lang may result na yung assessment nila. Hindi ko na rin alam kung ano gagawin kasi pag tinatawagan ko sinasabi nila wala silang way to send a follow up kay assessor. Wala naman ako hinahabol na timeline kaya hindi ako nagmamadali pero sayang kasi yung bayad.

im so sorry to hear that. 1 month??? sobrang valid ng frustrations mo omg 56k yun!!! tapos ganyan service. pa refund ka kaya? its beyond processing time na eh. so far, sayo lang yung nabasa ko na ganyan katagal 🙁

Yes medyo matagal nga yan given na ang promise nila is faster processing. Ang naiisip ko lang na possible reason bakit nagtatagal eh:
-baka may hindi macontact na employer mo for verification
-baka may addl docs required (pero this one alam ko makakareceive ka dapat ng email, please check your spam)

Kapag ganitong mga newly launched system and process madami pa talagang bumps. Sana mareceive mo na soon ang positive assessment.

Chineck ko spam ko now pero wala naman. Sa employer naman, dalawa lang naman sila and yung isa don yung current ko pa. I applied within 2 weeks of getting the COEs para sure na updated lahat ng info. Hirap lang pero wala ako magagawa but to call them again and again

qoobee28 · June 28

question po, meron po kasi ako nareceive na last pay computation from my previous employer last april 2023. kaso sobrang simple lang po nung document -- wala pong letterhead, and wala din pong pirma nung nag-prepare nung computation. pwede ko parin po ba isubmit to sa ACS for payment evidence?

asfal0th · June 28

@qoobee28 said:
question po, meron po kasi ako nareceive na last pay computation from my previous employer last april 2023. kaso sobrang simple lang po nung document -- wala pong letterhead, and wala din pong pirma nung nag-prepare nung computation. pwede ko parin po ba isubmit to sa ACS for payment evidence?

Yung sa akin wala din pirma. Pero syempre dapat may company name, name mo, at date ng duration nung payslip.

Naaccept naman lahat ng payslips na sinubmit ko.

meloy · June 28

@mathilde9 said:

@meloy said:
Ang taas ng minimum points now sa bagong released na invitation. Para akong nanghina.

You meant yung mga points ng mga invited recently? Can you share your points breakdown and anzsco?

Here po,
https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/working-in-australia/skillselect/invitation-rounds

meloy · June 28

@qoobee28 said:

@asfal0th said:

@meloy said:
Ang taas ng minimum points now sa bagong released na invitation. Para akong nanghina.

Totoo.. sa role ko nga 100 points na yung minimum sa 189.

omg anong role po ito? also, may link po ba kayo kung san nakikita yung minimum points kada state?

Here po,
https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/working-in-australia/skillselect/invitation-rounds

mathilde9 · June 28

@meloy said:

@mathilde9 said:

@meloy said:
Ang taas ng minimum points now sa bagong released na invitation. Para akong nanghina.

You meant yung mga points ng mga invited recently? Can you share your points breakdown and anzsco?

Here po,
https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/working-in-australia/skillselect/invitation-rounds

Anong occupation mo and profile? Kung priority occupation kahit 65pts may naiinvite.

For non-prio, 65 has very slim chance. 80 gives you better odds. 90 and up is the sweet spot. This is just my observation per recent rounds and people sharing their profile here when invited.

meloy · June 29

@mathilde9 said:

@meloy said:

@mathilde9 said:

@meloy said:
Ang taas ng minimum points now sa bagong released na invitation. Para akong nanghina.

You meant yung mga points ng mga invited recently? Can you share your points breakdown and anzsco?

Here po,
https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/working-in-australia/skillselect/invitation-rounds

Anong occupation mo and profile? Kung priority occupation kahit 65pts may naiinvite.

For non-prio, 65 has very slim chance. 80 gives you better odds. 90 and up is the sweet spot. This is just my observation per recent rounds and people sharing their profile here when invited.

Computer and network systems engineer/Network analyst po

qoobee28 · June 30

@meloy said:

@qoobee28 said:

@asfal0th said:

@meloy said:
Ang taas ng minimum points now sa bagong released na invitation. Para akong nanghina.

Totoo.. sa role ko nga 100 points na yung minimum sa 189.

omg anong role po ito? also, may link po ba kayo kung san nakikita yung minimum points kada state?

Here po,
https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/working-in-australia/skillselect/invitation-rounds

thank you po. ang taas nga po ng minimum points for software engineer, 100 huhu e parang impossible ko ata maabot to. meron parin po bang naiinvite kahit di umabot ng minimum points?

mathilde9 · June 30

@qoobee28 said:

@meloy said:

@qoobee28 said:

@asfal0th said:

@meloy said:
Ang taas ng minimum points now sa bagong released na invitation. Para akong nanghina.

Totoo.. sa role ko nga 100 points na yung minimum sa 189.

omg anong role po ito? also, may link po ba kayo kung san nakikita yung minimum points kada state?

Here po,
https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/working-in-australia/skillselect/invitation-rounds

thank you po. ang taas nga po ng minimum points for software engineer, 100 huhu e parang impossible ko ata maabot to. meron parin po bang naiinvite kahit di umabot ng minimum points?

Nainvite ako with 90pts. Hindi guaranteed na kapag 100pts ka maiinvite ka. Depende pa rin yan sa profile mo. By profile, hindi lang overall points yan. Individually, inaassess din ng state yung english score, work experience, and/or partner points, etc.

When I checked skillselect's reporting tool last time, most invitees were those with 80-90pts. There are those invited with 100+ points pero hindi silang lahat eh invited. May state na preferred ang applicants with 8+yrs work experience, meron namang may preference for applicants with skilled partners.

So you need to wait for each state's nomination criteria this FY to gauge your chance. Ganon pa man, ang usual advice dito sa forum is to maximize your points for better chances sa invitation.

meloy · July 1

@mathilde9 said:

@qoobee28 said:

@meloy said:

@qoobee28 said:

@asfal0th said:

@meloy said:
Ang taas ng minimum points now sa bagong released na invitation. Para akong nanghina.

Totoo.. sa role ko nga 100 points na yung minimum sa 189.

omg anong role po ito? also, may link po ba kayo kung san nakikita yung minimum points kada state?

Here po,
https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/working-in-australia/skillselect/invitation-rounds

thank you po. ang taas nga po ng minimum points for software engineer, 100 huhu e parang impossible ko ata maabot to. meron parin po bang naiinvite kahit di umabot ng minimum points?

Nainvite ako with 90pts. Hindi guaranteed na kapag 100pts ka maiinvite ka. Depende pa rin yan sa profile mo. By profile, hindi lang overall points yan. Individually, inaassess din ng state yung english score, work experience, and/or partner points, etc.

When I checked skillselect's reporting tool last time, most invitees were those with 80-90pts. There are those invited with 100+ points pero hindi silang lahat eh invited. May state na preferred ang applicants with 8+yrs work experience, meron namang may preference for applicants with skilled partners.

So you need to wait for each state's nomination criteria this FY to gauge your chance. Ganon pa man, ang usual advice dito sa forum is to maximize your points for better chances sa invitation.

Thanks. At least, may liwanag pa akong nakikita.

malley · July 1

@malley said:
Hello po sana may makasagot. Nag submit ako sa ACS last May 27 pero hanggang ngayon wala pang result. Ineexpect ko siya 2 weeks ago kasi sabi sa website up to 15 days lang daw and they even advertised the faster processing times. Halos everyday ko sila tinatawagan and then nitong last, nagsabi na talaga ako na ang unfair kasi under new system ako nag submit ng application. Hindi nakaka-P56k yung tagal ng process nila. Hindi ko alam kung valid ba yung frustrations ko pero kasi may nakitita ako dito na 1-2weeks lang may result na yung assessment nila. Hindi ko na rin alam kung ano gagawin kasi pag tinatawagan ko sinasabi nila wala silang way to send a follow up kay assessor. Wala naman ako hinahabol na timeline kaya hindi ako nagmamadali pero sayang kasi yung bayad.

Update: Tinawagan ko ulit si ACS ngayon lang and I said that I've been expecting the results 2 weeks ago kasi nga sabi sa website nila up to 15 days lang. The guy said "unfortunately, ACS has dropped the ball on that." He talked to the case manager and found out that it's not even on the hands of the assessor yet. Wala naman akong choice kundi maghintay talaga. Will try to get partial refund na lang once I get the results.

CinnZinn · July 2

@mathilde9 said:

@qoobee28 said:

@meloy said:

@qoobee28 said:

@asfal0th said:

@meloy said:
Ang taas ng minimum points now sa bagong released na invitation. Para akong nanghina.

Totoo.. sa role ko nga 100 points na yung minimum sa 189.

omg anong role po ito? also, may link po ba kayo kung san nakikita yung minimum points kada state?

Here po,
https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/working-in-australia/skillselect/invitation-rounds

thank you po. ang taas nga po ng minimum points for software engineer, 100 huhu e parang impossible ko ata maabot to. meron parin po bang naiinvite kahit di umabot ng minimum points?

Nainvite ako with 90pts. Hindi guaranteed na kapag 100pts ka maiinvite ka. Depende pa rin yan sa profile mo. By profile, hindi lang overall points yan. Individually, inaassess din ng state yung english score, work experience, and/or partner points, etc.

When I checked skillselect's reporting tool last time, most invitees were those with 80-90pts. There are those invited with 100+ points pero hindi silang lahat eh invited. May state na preferred ang applicants with 8+yrs work experience, meron namang may preference for applicants with skilled partners.

So you need to wait for each state's nomination criteria this FY to gauge your chance. Ganon pa man, ang usual advice dito sa forum is to maximize your points for better chances sa invitation.

Agree ako dito with mathilde.
@qoobee28 @meloy
you may also check ACT region they have their own matrix system na basis nila on inviting candidates. Hindi EOI points yung initial basis so baka mas may pag-asa. Got my 190 invite from ACT. Check all states criteria din po as mentioned by @mathilde every state has their own criteria ano yung priority nila when inviting.

qoobee28 · July 2

@CinnZinn said:

@mathilde9 said:

@qoobee28 said:

@meloy said:

@qoobee28 said:

@asfal0th said:

@meloy said:
Ang taas ng minimum points now sa bagong released na invitation. Para akong nanghina.

Totoo.. sa role ko nga 100 points na yung minimum sa 189.

omg anong role po ito? also, may link po ba kayo kung san nakikita yung minimum points kada state?

Here po,
https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/working-in-australia/skillselect/invitation-rounds

thank you po. ang taas nga po ng minimum points for software engineer, 100 huhu e parang impossible ko ata maabot to. meron parin po bang naiinvite kahit di umabot ng minimum points?

Nainvite ako with 90pts. Hindi guaranteed na kapag 100pts ka maiinvite ka. Depende pa rin yan sa profile mo. By profile, hindi lang overall points yan. Individually, inaassess din ng state yung english score, work experience, and/or partner points, etc.

When I checked skillselect's reporting tool last time, most invitees were those with 80-90pts. There are those invited with 100+ points pero hindi silang lahat eh invited. May state na preferred ang applicants with 8+yrs work experience, meron namang may preference for applicants with skilled partners.

So you need to wait for each state's nomination criteria this FY to gauge your chance. Ganon pa man, ang usual advice dito sa forum is to maximize your points for better chances sa invitation.

Agree ako dito with mathilde.
@qoobee28 @meloy
you may also check ACT region they have their own matrix system na basis nila on inviting candidates. Hindi EOI points yung initial basis so baka mas may pag-asa. Got my 190 invite from ACT. Check all states criteria din po as mentioned by @mathilde every state has their own criteria ano yung priority nila when inviting.

Thank you po. nagbasa basa na nga po ako, may question po ako para sa mga nainvite po -- hiningan po ba kayo ng Employment contract nyo from previous employers? Nabasa ko kasi ito

Meron naman po akong copy ng employment contract from previous employer pero mali yung year na nailagay ko doon, and hindi rin po ata nila napansin kaya pinirmahan na nila. hindi ko rin alam ano tumatakbo sa isip ko nung mga araw na yon at mali ang nailagay kong year.

mathilde9 · July 2

@qoobee28 said:
Thank you po. nagbasa basa na nga po ako, may question po ako para sa mga nainvite po -- hiningan po ba kayo ng Employment contract nyo from previous employers? Nabasa ko kasi ito

Meron naman po akong copy ng employment contract from previous employer pero mali yung year na nailagay ko doon, and hindi rin po ata nila napansin kaya pinirmahan na nila. hindi ko rin alam ano tumatakbo sa isip ko nung mga araw na yon at mali ang nailagay kong year.

Yes hihingin yan as one of the evidences of your employment. Ang advice ko, habang may time itama na at ayusin. Mahirap magsubmit ng documents that do not match.

qoobee28 · July 2

@mathilde9 said:

@qoobee28 said:
Thank you po. nagbasa basa na nga po ako, may question po ako para sa mga nainvite po -- hiningan po ba kayo ng Employment contract nyo from previous employers? Nabasa ko kasi ito

Meron naman po akong copy ng employment contract from previous employer pero mali yung year na nailagay ko doon, and hindi rin po ata nila napansin kaya pinirmahan na nila. hindi ko rin alam ano tumatakbo sa isip ko nung mga araw na yon at mali ang nailagay kong year.

Yes hihingin yan as one of the evidences of your employment. Ang advice ko, habang may time itama na at ayusin. Mahirap magsubmit ng documents that do not match.

paano po ang gagawin ko dito? need ko po ba i-email yung previous employer ko and sabihin na mali pala yung year na nalagay ko po doon sa contract?

mathilde9 · July 2

@qoobee28 said:

@mathilde9 said:

@qoobee28 said:
Thank you po. nagbasa basa na nga po ako, may question po ako para sa mga nainvite po -- hiningan po ba kayo ng Employment contract nyo from previous employers? Nabasa ko kasi ito

Meron naman po akong copy ng employment contract from previous employer pero mali yung year na nailagay ko doon, and hindi rin po ata nila napansin kaya pinirmahan na nila. hindi ko rin alam ano tumatakbo sa isip ko nung mga araw na yon at mali ang nailagay kong year.

Yes hihingin yan as one of the evidences of your employment. Ang advice ko, habang may time itama na at ayusin. Mahirap magsubmit ng documents that do not match.

paano po ang gagawin ko dito? need ko po ba i-email yung previous employer ko and sabihin na mali pala yung year na nalagay ko po doon sa contract?

Ano ba to stat dec or letter issued by employer? Medyo nakakalito since sabi mo mali yung year na nailagay mo. Basta kung sino nag issue/gumawa sila dapat mag update. Ang pwede mo lang iupdate is stat dec then redo notary public. Kung official letter yan, never update that yourself. Hayaan mo silang (employer) magre-issue. Wag magpadala sa minamadali or hinahabol na timeline. Mas okay na tamang ginawa, kesa mabilis pero mali.

qoobee28 · July 2

@mathilde9 said:

@qoobee28 said:

@mathilde9 said:

@qoobee28 said:
Thank you po. nagbasa basa na nga po ako, may question po ako para sa mga nainvite po -- hiningan po ba kayo ng Employment contract nyo from previous employers? Nabasa ko kasi ito

Meron naman po akong copy ng employment contract from previous employer pero mali yung year na nailagay ko doon, and hindi rin po ata nila napansin kaya pinirmahan na nila. hindi ko rin alam ano tumatakbo sa isip ko nung mga araw na yon at mali ang nailagay kong year.

Yes hihingin yan as one of the evidences of your employment. Ang advice ko, habang may time itama na at ayusin. Mahirap magsubmit ng documents that do not match.

paano po ang gagawin ko dito? need ko po ba i-email yung previous employer ko and sabihin na mali pala yung year na nalagay ko po doon sa contract?

Ano ba to stat dec or letter issued by employer? Medyo nakakalito since sabi mo mali yung year na nailagay mo. Basta kung sino nag issue/gumawa sila dapat mag update. Ang pwede mo lang iupdate is stat dec then redo notary public. Kung official letter yan, never update that yourself. Hayaan mo silang (employer) magre-issue. Wag magpadala sa minamadali or hinahabol na timeline. Mas okay na tamang ginawa, kesa mabilis pero mali.

ay wait sorry nalito narin po ako. Yung tinutukoy ko pong employment contract is yung binigay and pinapirmahan po nila saakin nung tinanggap po nila ko sa company together po with the Job offer details. or ang tinutukoy po ba dito na employment contract is yung certificate of employment? meron na din po kasing employment reference sa next bullet kaya nalito po ako sorry

adriangpc · July 6

Question po, for the ACS employment reference, can we follow the template from their website? https://www.acs.org.au/msa/infohub/employment-references.html, Thanks!

xnitear111 · July 8

Hello po, pwede kaya hindi ideclare yung current work? Like hindi sya isasama sa ipapa-assess although related sya sa ANZSCO code na inonominate ko? 2 months pa lang naman ako and I don’t think I can complete the requirements dito sa current work ko because of my setup Need your thoughts po. Thank you!

malley · July 8

@adriangpc said:
Question po, for the ACS employment reference, can we follow the template from their website? https://www.acs.org.au/msa/infohub/employment-references.html, Thanks!

yes po. ginawa ko sinend ko rin 'tong page na 'to sa employers ko para may reference sila.

baiken · July 8

@malley said:

@adriangpc said:
Question po, for the ACS employment reference, can we follow the template from their website? https://www.acs.org.au/msa/infohub/employment-references.html, Thanks!

yes po. ginawa ko sinend ko rin 'tong page na 'to sa employers ko para may reference sila.

copy the template and just DIY, tapos pa-pirmahan mo sa kanila with the company letterhead, that will be easier for them at mas may control ka sa pwede mo ilagay (especially sa mga skills na ginagawa mo dahil mas kabisado mo yun), that worked for me when i did mine last time...

all the best!

God Bless!

qoobee28 · July 8

I requested some BIR2316 from BIR and nabigay na po nila sakin yung copy. May nakapagtry po ba sainyo magsubmit nung binigay nila sa ACS? Based on their checklist kasi, they do not accept scanned photocopies. Kaso yung binigay nila sakin is scanned copy lang. Okay lang ba na ipasa yun? Tatanggapin kaya nila?

adriangpc · July 9

@malley said:

@adriangpc said:
Question po, for the ACS employment reference, can we follow the template from their website? https://www.acs.org.au/msa/infohub/employment-references.html, Thanks!

yes po. ginawa ko sinend ko rin 'tong page na 'to sa employers ko para may reference sila.

Thanks po!

adriangpc · July 9

@baiken said:

@malley said:

@adriangpc said:
Question po, for the ACS employment reference, can we follow the template from their website? https://www.acs.org.au/msa/infohub/employment-references.html, Thanks!

yes po. ginawa ko sinend ko rin 'tong page na 'to sa employers ko para may reference sila.

copy the template and just DIY, tapos pa-pirmahan mo sa kanila with the company letterhead, that will be easier for them at mas may control ka sa pwede mo ilagay (especially sa mga skills na ginagawa mo dahil mas kabisado mo yun), that worked for me when i did mine last time...

all the best!

God Bless!