Going back to Pinas after Migration?

beth_loggins

Hi All,

Just wondering, anyone here migrated po sa Australia and maybe a few months or years (less than 5) want to go back to Pinas? .. Just wondering, kasi I have reading other Aussie related forums, SG-Aussie, alot of Singaporeans head back home after a few years...
hinde ko lang po alam, bka mahina fighting spirit nila..

TasBurrfoot

Hi All,

Just wondering, anyone here migrated po sa Australia and maybe a few months or years (less than 5) want to go back to Pinas? .. Just wondering, kasi I have reading other Aussie related forums, SG-Aussie, alot of Singaporeans head back home after a few years...
hinde ko lang po alam, bka mahina fighting spirit nila..

Oz migration is not for all so there will definitely be a few who came back to where they came from after tasting life here.

I know a bunch of Pinoys who are PRs in Singapore; they got PR sa Australia din and they tried it out. Came back within a year as they never really get to settle in Oz the same way as they have settled in SG.

Personally, I still miss SG but Melbourne is my home now. There is no turning back in a few weeks time. Pinas? No way... Harsh as it may sound but it is a hopeless case there as long as these idiots from the government don't change.

vhoythoy

Actually hindi nakakapagtaka bumalik ang mga local from OZ back to SG kasi the truth is masarap naman ang buhay nila sa SG. Pampered nga sila ng gov't nila and nandito na rin nman bagay na nakasanayan nila. They can tour Au naman anytime, plus priority sila nowadays sa services, works and benefits because of the current issues. Iba naman ang case ng pinoy na nasa SG na gusto mag Australia

vhoythoy

Tsaka personal opinion ko lang, may not be related to fighting spirit, possibly culture na rin pero in general mas matiisin kasi tayong mga pinoy at sanay sa hirap lalo na ung galing sa hirap talaga. Kaya di basta susuko at babalik sa pinanggalingan. Unlike majority of them, maayos naman buhay nila eversince, so they might as well back sa place nila.

cholle

+1 sa sinabi ni @vhoythoy - mas matiyaga at mahaba ang pasensya nating mga Pinoy. Di tayo sanay na sino-spoonfeed at binebeybi ng gobyerno, unlike mga Sg locals. Pero tama rin si @TasBurrfoot - migrating is not for everyone. It takes a certain character to uproot and start over and work/wait for it to bear fruit. Kelangan lang talaga magpursigi.

manofsteel

ang naiisip ko lang na gustong bumalik sa pinas after migrating eh yun matatanda na, yun tipong mas gusto nila magretire sa pinas at kakanta ng.. "ang mamatay ng dahil syo!"
pero i doubt if meron talagang less than 5 yrs eh balik pinas na, kase bukod sa visang pinaghirapan applyan eh malayong mas maganda ang life ng nagmmigrate kahit pa odd jobs ang work. sa pinas, khit ano work mo tatagain ka sa taxes. mga govt officials lang yumayaman.
sa mga Singaporean's naman na bumabalik, tama sinabi nila above, pampered kse sila sa Sg at para sa knila, I believe, living in Au is just to have a feel of lving in a different environment and not to pursue a better life like most of us pinoys are aiming to have.
Kung PR ka man sa SG, you don't get to enjoy the same priveleges as their citizens, unlike in Au. Nakakamiss lang sa Sg is transpo convenience and safe environment, but definitely not suitable for family to live there for good. Sa Au pang pamilya talaga, at pang sports pa (kase reachable ang dream sports car! haha)

mann

i'm about to embark on our migration journey from SG to AU.

just a thought about SGporeans going to AU then back to SG - nothing beats being a first class citizen in a first world country

in my case, I share the same sentiment with @TasBurrfoot - Pinas is out of the question having enjoyed the safety and convenience of living and raising a family here in SG.

JCsantos

Kami still an option kung babalik ng ph pag mag retire

beth_loggins

hehe witdrawhin na Cpf , AU nlang! hehe soon to be my turn.
nakaka ipon ba kayo sa AU? Ksi ang alam ko ang Supper pang 50 plus lang ma withdraw.. so personal ipon kayo?
As for tax in AU, balita ko sa mga friends ko na nandyan almost 20-30% ang tax! ARAY!!
mga kano per annum ba estimated para makaipon dyan? sabi friends ko mga 60K per annum pwede na raw.... ?

vhoythoy

ang naiisip ko lang na gustong bumalik sa pinas after migrating eh yun matatanda na, yun tipong mas gusto nila magretire sa pinas at kakanta ng.. "ang mamatay ng dahil syo!"
pero i doubt if meron talagang less than 5 yrs eh balik pinas na, kase bukod sa visang pinaghirapan applyan eh malayong mas maganda ang life ng nagmmigrate kahit pa odd jobs ang work. sa pinas, khit ano work mo tatagain ka sa taxes. mga govt officials lang yumayaman.
sa mga Singaporean's naman na bumabalik, tama sinabi nila above, pampered kse sila sa Sg at para sa knila, I believe, living in Au is just to have a feel of lving in a different environment and not to pursue a better life like most of us pinoys are aiming to have.
Kung PR ka man sa SG, you don't get to enjoy the same priveleges as their citizens, unlike in Au. Nakakamiss lang sa Sg is transpo convenience and safe environment, but definitely not suitable for family to live there for good. Sa Au pang pamilya talaga, at pang sports pa (kase reachable ang dream sports car! haha)

Correct. For them, its not going to SG to find a better life but more of to experience something different lang. Mas ok ang buhay nila dito. Lalo na sa mga "trublu" para sa kanila talaga ang Singapore. First class citizen sila sa bansa nila. Their red passport is also powerful. Nandito na din nman lahat ng gusto nila and Singapore is keep improving and improving in terms of infrastructure, walang tigil . Its been a while since nakagala ulit ako dito. Gardens by the bay is very nice, may performing live bands na sa may esplanade area, makansutra was improved unlike years ago, laupasat, the big shopping malls in orchard, new shopping malls in jurong east area (westgate, gem, etc.), improvements in MRT system. I love the feel of Melbourne when we got there, but in terms of real city and modern feel, hands down its SG. If theres a word to describe Singapore i think its "convenience". Good for them, but this place is not for me

vhoythoy

Open din ako to retire in Philippines. Para sa akin mas masaya ang buhay ng matatanda sa pinas compared dito sa SG. Dito kadalasan nakatambay magisa sa baba ng HDB, or iniwan lang sa aged care center, or nagtatrabaho sa hawker. Halos lahat ng anak busy sa lahat ng bagay at wala na oras. Not sure sa Australia, pero iba kasi culture natin. In general, hindi basta2 pinapabayaan matatanda. Tsaka laging may tambay at makakausap sa atin dami pa pagkakalibangan.

beth_loggins

hmm.. true dami improvements sa SG. when we first came, lucky plaza lang ang mall sa Orchard , tapos meron sila tawag na "gulong" park, that is where ION in standing now.. ksi dati open field lang yun, tapos dun tumatambay mga maids-bangla every sunday.. kaya yun gulong park.
hmm well ako, honestly I can't wait to leave SG na.. iba na talga sila.. yung mga local nga gusto na umalis eh...

musta nman buhay natin dyan sa melbourne? besides work, ano nman activity nyo?

vhoythoy

hmm.. true dami improvements sa SG. when we first came, lucky plaza lang ang mall sa Orchard , tapos meron sila tawag na "gulong" park, that is where ION in standing now.. ksi dati open field lang yun, tapos dun tumatambay mga maids-bangla every sunday.. kaya yun gulong park.
hmm well ako, honestly I can't wait to leave SG na.. iba na talga sila.. yung mga local nga gusto na umalis eh...

musta nman buhay natin dyan sa melbourne? besides work, ano nman activity nyo?

Matagal na talaga history ng bonding ng maid at bangla ano hehe

wizardofOz

For me, if I'd be successful in migrating to Australia... I don't see myself retiring in the Philippines later on when i get older.

Masarap talaga sa lupang sinilangan, pero hindi ko nakikita na masaya ang buhay ng mga matatanda sa Pinas. The only reason na masaya ang mga elderly sa atin is because of family.

Pero once na na-establish ko na ang family ko sa australia, I think mas okay tumanda doon. The challenging part lang siguro is making sure na yung mga magiging anak ko at ibang kapamilya na susunod sakin ay ma-reretain pa rin yung Filipino values na "close family ties", at hindi lang tayo ilalagay sa home for the aged like in most westernized countries.

Now, having said that, the more reason that I don’t see myself going back to Pinas in 5 or 10 years time after migrating to Oz. It’s just not making sense to me, at least at this point. Maiisip ko lang siguro lagi yung reasons kung bakit in the first place I decided to leave…

The “Rat Race”, parang lahat ng bagay mahirap, kahit napakasimpleng bagay pinahihirapan tayo…

Bata pa lang tayo pinagtitiis na tayo sa bulok na classroom, maduduming banyo, kulang na mga libro, pinaglalakad sa baha… Pila dito, Pila doon… PILApinas!

Professional ka na, 10 years na nagttrabaho, hirap ka pa maka-afford ng pangarap mong bahay.

Parang ayokong maranasan yun ng mga magiging anak ko.

TasBurrfoot

hmm.. true dami improvements sa SG. when we first came, lucky plaza lang ang mall sa Orchard , tapos meron sila tawag na "gulong" park, that is where ION in standing now.. ksi dati open field lang yun, tapos dun tumatambay mga maids-bangla every sunday.. kaya yun gulong park.
hmm well ako, honestly I can't wait to leave SG na.. iba na talga sila.. yung mga local nga gusto na umalis eh...

musta nman buhay natin dyan sa melbourne? besides work, ano nman activity nyo?

you must have been in SG for a number of years @beth_loggins; i arrived there in 2008 and i could not recall this gulong park...

same goes when i first visited in 2007...

beth_loggins

came here in 1989 hehe.. konte palang ang pinoy sa SG dati. my parents were the first few batch of engineers dito sa Sing. kaya yun dito na rin ako nag grade school all the way to college.. bata pa ako wla na ako sa pinas. pero feel ko masaya talaga sa pinas kapag may datong dayo hehe.. pag wla, kamot nlang hehe...

pero since I am 30 years, I think its time to move on, maiba iba nman environment, ksi dito dati mga yaya sa SG, ma meet mo sa elevator, tropa na kayo, pwede na kayo mag picnic ..etc pero ngayon mga pinoy dito wla ng pansinan at socialan pa.. kaya yun.. hehe
at the same time galit na rin ang SG locals sa mga foreign talents, alam mo nman nag yayari dito.

hehe dyan ba nagagalit din ba mga AU locals sa mga FTs? Or hinde nman..

beth_loggins

30 years old

beth_loggins

eto oh.. gulong park ..http://rememberingsingapore.blogspot.sg/2013/12/orchard-road-police-station.html kaya gulong park, ksi yung bangla-pinay gumulong dun pag gabi hehe

JCsantos

For me, if I'd be successful in migrating to Australia... I don't see myself retiring in the Philippines later on when i get older.

Masarap talaga sa lupang sinilangan, pero hindi ko nakikita na masaya ang buhay ng mga matatanda sa Pinas. The only reason na masaya ang mga elderly sa atin is because of family.

Pero once na na-establish ko na ang family ko sa australia, I think mas okay tumanda doon. The challenging part lang siguro is making sure na yung mga magiging anak ko at ibang kapamilya na susunod sakin ay ma-reretain pa rin yung Filipino values na "close family ties", at hindi lang tayo ilalagay sa home for the aged like in most westernized countries.

Now, having said that, the more reason that I don’t see myself going back to Pinas in 5 or 10 years time after migrating to Oz. It’s just not making sense to me, at least at this point. Maiisip ko lang siguro lagi yung reasons kung bakit in the first place I decided to leave…

The “Rat Race”, parang lahat ng bagay mahirap, kahit napakasimpleng bagay pinahihirapan tayo…

Bata pa lang tayo pinagtitiis na tayo sa bulok na classroom, maduduming banyo, kulang na mga libro, pinaglalakad sa baha… Pila dito, Pila doon… PILApinas!

Professional ka na, 10 years na nagttrabaho, hirap ka pa maka-afford ng pangarap mong bahay.

Parang ayokong maranasan yun ng mga magiging anak ko.

Do you know na pag tumira ka sa aged care dito para ka ring bumili ng bahay hehe just to give an idea

beth_loggins

hehe ganon ba... pag ganon ka mahal uwe nlang ako pinas, mag ga-ganchillio

vhoythoy

came here in 1989 hehe.. konte palang ang pinoy sa SG dati. my parents were the first few batch of engineers dito sa Sing. kaya yun dito na rin ako nag grade school all the way to college.. bata pa ako wla na ako sa pinas. pero feel ko masaya talaga sa pinas kapag may datong dayo hehe.. pag wla, kamot nlang hehe...

pero since I am 30 years, I think its time to move on, maiba iba nman environment, ksi dito dati mga yaya sa SG, ma meet mo sa elevator, tropa na kayo, pwede na kayo mag picnic ..etc pero ngayon mga pinoy dito wla ng pansinan at socialan pa.. kaya yun.. hehe
at the same time galit na rin ang SG locals sa mga foreign talents, alam mo nman nag yayari dito.

hehe dyan ba nagagalit din ba mga AU locals sa mga FTs? Or hinde nman..

Hindi pa ako pinapanganak nyan 1989 hehe joke. Kasikatan yan ni Ultimate Warrior at Hulk Hogan sa Pinas tska Bioman at Shaider at Anejo team! Ah, yun pala storya ng gulong park hahaha. Actually marami na din silang place na ginugulongan ngaun, around 70k na yata sila dito. Hmmm, things changes na pre, wala na sila sa elevator nasa blowfish, facebook at lucky na sila hahaha. Pwede mo pa rin maging tropa mga un ngaun . Uu galit na sila sa foreigner buti nlang hindi harapan.

Migrating back to pinas, you can say never or be definite. People changes as years go by. Yung lola ko na parang sobrang tigas at tapang mala hapon nung 40-70's nya, eh naging maramdamin at sentimental nung tumanda na talaga. Especially if marami kang masasayang memories sa pinas. So i don't make final word na i will stay sa Au/other place forever. Migration to Au is primarily for my family's future. Retiring to pinas, just in case, primarily for myself.

vhoythoy

Yup para sa akin iba sense of humor natin mga pinoy. We can still crack jokes and find smiles even in hardest of times and difficult situations. Dami kalokohan sobra hahaha. Been to public school from kinder to college. Kahit pila, kulang kulang na libro, pasaway na teacher, classmates, barkada those are the happiest day of my life. Pinoy in general kasi is masayahing tao.

engr_boy

+1 sa sinabi ni @vhoythoy - mas matiyaga at mahaba ang pasensya nating mga Pinoy. Di tayo sanay na sino-spoonfeed at binebeybi ng gobyerno, unlike mga Sg locals. Pero tama rin si @TasBurrfoot - migrating is not for everyone. It takes a certain character to uproot and start over and work/wait for it to bear fruit. Kelangan lang talaga magpursigi.

totoo yan. alot of them are pampered cry babies. sa amin, sa construction industry, malutong ang murahan at hot seat lagi sa meetings. na-observe ko lang, a lot of singaporeans crack under pressure. ang joke namin mga FTs eh, lagi pinagpupustahan ang bagong pasok na lokal. how long this clown last leh? i've seen a lot leave in the first week. personal observation lang at hinde ko nilalahat. siguro, when the tables are turned at naranasan nila kung ano ang buhay foreigner eh. cheebai, how? cannot lah.

vhoythoy

Bitter lang ako sa pinas is ung gov't at talamak na corruptions. Can't be eliminated na un in our lifetime.

beth_loggins

oo nga.. sikat si Ultimate Warrior nun, diba pumotok biceps nya nung binuhat nya si andre the giant? hehehe

beth_loggins

grabe was checking the fees sa australian PR..etc patayan! hehe

wizardofOz

Mas maganda siguro if we stick to the topic and not compare Pinoys with or poke fun on other nationalities

vhoythoy

Mas maganda siguro if we stick to the topic and not compare Pinoys with or poke fun on other nationalities

Agree for sticking with topic but not agreeing on your comments regarding poking fun of other nationalities. What we shared is reality and based on our real experience living here in SG for number of years. Don't be too serious.

wizardofOz

@vhoythoy you may read the whole thread again and you'll understand what i meant.

if other nationalities says... "ALL Pinoys are CORRUPT, based on our real experiences", and that's the "reality"... how would us pinoys feel?

Kaya I suggest we stick to the topic, or somebody can create a different thread like "Going back to XX after Migration?"

beth_loggins

relax lang mga pards... hehe dala nlang ako red horse pag punta ko Aussie hehe

wizardofOz

Yup relax relax lang... Peace pards @vhoythoy hehe