Hi mga Kabayan,
I'm torn between deciding on which Visa to pursue. I'm a CPA in the Philippines, with 2yrs work experience. I graduated from a school qualified as comparable to an Australian bachelor degree. Here are my options:
Apply for Student Visa NOW. Will require a lot more money but will give me a chance to earn my Masters in Accounting and work part-time. Hopefully find a good employer to eventually hire me full-time (if possible). And eventually apply for PR.
OR
Not to go through Student Visa. Instead earn points through Work Experience and English Exam while in the Philippines. WAIT until I earn enough points and apply for PR.
Any advice pls? I'm considering Money and Time.
Thank you po!
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Joined: Apr 11, 2019
@AReyes you would need at least 95 pts to have at least a chance of getting invited without going here in Australia. the issue though is how are you going to get it? Here is a rundown on where you can get your points without studying in Australia:
Age : 30 pts (if you are between 25 to 32 yrs old)
English : 20 (if you have minimum 8 bands on each module)
Overseas Skilled Employment : 5 (if you have minimum 3 yrs work experience. You can increase this to 15 pts if you have minimum of 8 yrs work experience.)
Local Skilled Employment : 0 (since you don't have work experience in Australia)
Educational Qualification : 15 (since you said: 'I graduated from a school qualified as comparable to an Australian bachelor degree')
Australian Study Requirement : 0 (not applicable to you since you did not study in Australia)
Professional Year : 0 (not applicable to you since you did not study in Australia)
Credentialled Community Language : 5 (if you pass the NAATI exam where you would need to take it in Australia. No testing center outside Australia for this one.
Study in Regional Australia : 0 (not applicable to you since you did not study in Australia)
Partner Skills : 10 (if you are single, or your Partner has competent English and has positive assessment to their nominated skill occupation.)
To sum up the above, you would only get 85 pts if you satisfy all of the above requirements within the year of completing 3 years in your company. Wait for 5 more yrs to get 95 pts as you would have 8 yrs work experience by then but there would be no assurance how many points Australian Immigration are going to invite by that time.
But if you study in a Regional Australian university, you would get 10 more pts as you can get 5 pts in Australian Study Requirement and another 5 more pts for Professional Year. This 10 pts would only happen though after 3 yrs of studying and staying in Australia. If you are lucky enough to get a local experience while doing your Professional Year, then you can get 5 more pts after 1 year of working as an Accountant. If these pts falls into place, then you would have 100 pts within 3 yrs.
**Although, if you study in a State that sponsors their own International Graduates, then you would only have to finish your 2 year course then you can already apply as a PR under that state, you still have to satisfy though the other requirements needed for that State sponsorship. Each State has their own requirements.
261212 - Web Developer | Age: 32 | Education: 15 | Australian Education: 5 | English Proficiency: 20 | NAATI CCL: 5 | Australian Experience: 5 | State Sponsorship: 5 | Total: 85
Timeline:
27 May 2015 - Visa 573 Granted
01 Jul 2015 - Arrived in Melbourne
06 Jul 2015 - First Day High
16 Jun 2017 - Finished Masters
22 Sept 2017 - Visa 485 Granted
16 Jun 2018 - Got Superior English after 5 tries.xP (L 84 R 85 S 90 W 87)
22 May 2019 - Passed NAATI
02 Sep 2019 - ACS Skills Assessment Positive, Qualification has been assessed as comparable to an AQF Master Degree with a Major in computing.
02 Sep 2109 - ACS Skills Assessment Positive, Employment considered to equate to work at an appropriately
skilled level and relevant to ANZSCO Code 261212 (Web Developer)
02 Sep 2019 - Submitted EOI for 190 NSW
19 Sep 2019 - Received pre-invite from NSW
23 Sep 2019 - Received approval from NSW
23 Sep 2019 - ITA received
30 Sep 2019 - Lodged Visa 190 NSW
16 Jan 2020 - Visa 190 NSW Granted.=)
Joined: Dec 26, 2019
Hi @frisch24, this is such a big help for me to assess on where am I going. These are all noted. Thank you so much!
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Joined: Feb 04, 2019
@frisch24, I think 65 points or more according to https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/getting-a-visa/visa-listing/skilled-independent-189/points-tested#Eligibility.
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Joined: Feb 04, 2019
@AReyes , we have the same situation, Engineer here. let us wait for 1 year more
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Joined: Apr 11, 2019
@jeric19 65 pts is minimum to apply for PR. but to get invited is a different thing.
261212 - Web Developer | Age: 32 | Education: 15 | Australian Education: 5 | English Proficiency: 20 | NAATI CCL: 5 | Australian Experience: 5 | State Sponsorship: 5 | Total: 85
Timeline:
27 May 2015 - Visa 573 Granted
01 Jul 2015 - Arrived in Melbourne
06 Jul 2015 - First Day High
16 Jun 2017 - Finished Masters
22 Sept 2017 - Visa 485 Granted
16 Jun 2018 - Got Superior English after 5 tries.xP (L 84 R 85 S 90 W 87)
22 May 2019 - Passed NAATI
02 Sep 2019 - ACS Skills Assessment Positive, Qualification has been assessed as comparable to an AQF Master Degree with a Major in computing.
02 Sep 2109 - ACS Skills Assessment Positive, Employment considered to equate to work at an appropriately
skilled level and relevant to ANZSCO Code 261212 (Web Developer)
02 Sep 2019 - Submitted EOI for 190 NSW
19 Sep 2019 - Received pre-invite from NSW
23 Sep 2019 - Received approval from NSW
23 Sep 2019 - ITA received
30 Sep 2019 - Lodged Visa 190 NSW
16 Jan 2020 - Visa 190 NSW Granted.=)
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Joined: Mar 13, 2018
@Jeric19 I agree with @frisch24, the minimum points doesn't mean much at the moment. As of January 10th 2020, people who were invited under the Accountant occupation for 189 visa had at least 95 points, and Date of Effect was April 2019 (meaning they had to wait 9 months to get an invite. For 190 visa, one was invited last year with 85 points, but the current trend is that cut-off points are increasing for pro-rata occupations like Accountants.
https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/working-in-australia/skillselect/invitation-rounds
https://condormigration.com/2019/12/09/check-how-points-results-for-nsw-invitations-since-july-2019/
232111 (Architect) | Current points: 65
30-01-2018 Applied for student visa (MArchSci), offshore application.
11-08-2020 Applied for student visa (PhD), onshore application.
28-02-2022 Submitted application to AACA for skills assessment (OQA Stage 1)
27-05-2022 Received skills assessment outcome (Suitable/Positive)
Next steps: PTE exam
Posts: 3Member
Joined: Feb 04, 2019
Thanks for your infos kabayan!
Posts: 326Member
Joined: Aug 06, 2019
i have the same situation im confused if SV or wait for invites. i already have all the documents/assessment kaso 75 points lang ako or 80 points kung 190 visa. Medyo malayo pang ma invite ang taas na kasi ng points ngayon. nasa 38 yrs na rin ako. im thinking Student visa then lodge again my skilled migration onshore. chemist position here..
Nominated Occupation: 234211 (Chemist)
Sept 3, 2019 - Vetassess assessment for Chemist
Nov 18, 2019 - Positive Assessment (Thank you, God)
March 4, 2020 - PTE Exam (L-77, R-72, W-78, S- 90)
March 7, 2020 - EOI lodged (189/190 NSW)- 75/80
November 21, 2020 - EOI lodged 190/491 SA
Jan 25, 2022 - ROI Applied for 491 Riverina total points of 90
September 1, 2022 - received pre-invite SA 491