Australian Computer Society Skills Application

RheaMARN1171933

@koyodenzo said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@koyodenzo said:

@jinigirl said:

@koyodenzo said:
Hello good day everyone! Ask ko lang po kung pwede po ba mag create ng new account sa website ng ACS for skills assessment? Naka agency po kasi ako before sa abu dhabi kaso nag close na po sila, at yung other branch nila hindi po sila nakikipag cooperate.

Please advise po kung ano po yung dapat kung gawin kasi expired na rin po yung skills assessment ko.

Maraming salamat po sa mga sasagot.

Pwede ka naman magcreate ng new account, pero may nabasa ako dito before na nadedetect na may existing application na daw yung certain passport number or any other detail na ilalagay mo sa application.

Thank you po maam sa sagot niyo, ang hirap po kasing kausap ng agency kahit mga kabayan. Di sila sumasagot sa tawag at mga messages ko po.

Ano po kaya ang better option po para makapag submit po ulit ng skills assessment?

Pls advise po.

Why don’t you call them and ask what’s best way to do it

Hello Maam,

Thanks po sa insight niyo po. I did call them po, though sumagot naman po sila sa tawag ko, kaso medyo paasa po kasi sila, sabi mag uupdate daw po sila sa akin. More than 2 weeks na po di pa rin po sila nagbibigay ng advice.

Naghohope pa rin naman po ako na iassist pa rin po nila ako.

Good luck……tutukan mo. I had a case recently which I fought hard for. I challenged the decision because it was obviously wrong. I found myself calling them every week for a month. Not until I escalated it to one of the supervisors and complained how frustrating and ridiculous things were, they would have not corrected the outcome. They used to be very efficient but not sure what’s happening with them. I feel for those who aren’t using an agent and have to deal with such service from them and most often than nit they aren’t taken seriously by them. All the best.

koyodenzo

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@koyodenzo said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@koyodenzo said:

@jinigirl said:

@koyodenzo said:
Hello good day everyone! Ask ko lang po kung pwede po ba mag create ng new account sa website ng ACS for skills assessment? Naka agency po kasi ako before sa abu dhabi kaso nag close na po sila, at yung other branch nila hindi po sila nakikipag cooperate.

Please advise po kung ano po yung dapat kung gawin kasi expired na rin po yung skills assessment ko.

Maraming salamat po sa mga sasagot.

Pwede ka naman magcreate ng new account, pero may nabasa ako dito before na nadedetect na may existing application na daw yung certain passport number or any other detail na ilalagay mo sa application.

Thank you po maam sa sagot niyo, ang hirap po kasing kausap ng agency kahit mga kabayan. Di sila sumasagot sa tawag at mga messages ko po.

Ano po kaya ang better option po para makapag submit po ulit ng skills assessment?

Pls advise po.

Why don’t you call them and ask what’s best way to do it

Hello Maam,

Thanks po sa insight niyo po. I did call them po, though sumagot naman po sila sa tawag ko, kaso medyo paasa po kasi sila, sabi mag uupdate daw po sila sa akin. More than 2 weeks na po di pa rin po sila nagbibigay ng advice.

Naghohope pa rin naman po ako na iassist pa rin po nila ako.

Good luck……tutukan mo. I had a case recently which I fought hard for. I challenged the decision because it was obviously wrong. I found myself calling them every week for a month. Not until I escalated it to one of the supervisors and complained how frustrating and ridiculous things were, they would have not corrected the outcome. They used to be very efficient but not sure what’s happening with them. I feel for those who aren’t using an agent and have to deal with such service from them and most often than nit they aren’t taken seriously by them. All the best.

Maraming salamat po talaga sa advise niyo maam at pag push niyo po sa akin to do what is necessary, at least bumabalik po yung hope at kumpiyansa ko to pursue again my application. God bless po! 🙏😊

mikodela

Hi po, I hope may makatulong po sa akin dito. Ano po kaya mas okay if san mag pa assess sa EA or sa ACS, current work ko po ngayon ay Network Engineer, been working since 2015 po (pero from 2015 to 2017 site engr ako sa isang telecom firm) then after po non nag apply ako as network engr sa ibang company and till now dito padin po ako nagwowork. Network engr po ako sa isang telecom company din. Pwede na po kaya ako magpa assess sa ACS, and totoo po ba na no need na ng CDR pag sa ACS?

jinigirl

@mikodela said:
Hi po, I hope may makatulong po sa akin dito. Ano po kaya mas okay if san mag pa assess sa EA or sa ACS, current work ko po ngayon ay Network Engineer, been working since 2015 po (pero from 2015 to 2017 site engr ako sa isang telecom firm) then after po non nag apply ako as network engr sa ibang company and till now dito padin po ako nagwowork. Network engr po ako sa isang telecom company din. Pwede na po kaya ako magpa assess sa ACS, and totoo po ba na no need na ng CDR pag sa ACS?

Depende po yan kung anong ANZSCO code ang ipapaassess niyo. Dapat match yung duties and responsibilities niyo dun sa mapipili niyong ANZSCO code. Pinakarequired lang is yung Certificate of Employment na may duties and responsibilities.

heydelilah12

Regarding Employment References/CoE requirement as per ACS

Contact details of signatory i.e. phone number and official email address (no personal email
addresses)

okay lang ba either Official email address OR Phone number? mostly kasi ng nakuha kong COE official email lang nakalagay but no phone number. Okay lang po ba un?

mikodela

May steps po ba dito na pwede sundan pano ang process ng ACS? newbie lang din po kasi ako and ang haba na po kas ng thread. Thanks in advance po

mikodela

@jinigirl said:

@mikodela said:
Hi po, I hope may makatulong po sa akin dito. Ano po kaya mas okay if san mag pa assess sa EA or sa ACS, current work ko po ngayon ay Network Engineer, been working since 2015 po (pero from 2015 to 2017 site engr ako sa isang telecom firm) then after po non nag apply ako as network engr sa ibang company and till now dito padin po ako nagwowork. Network engr po ako sa isang telecom company din. Pwede na po kaya ako magpa assess sa ACS, and totoo po ba na no need na ng CDR pag sa ACS?

Depende po yan kung anong ANZSCO code ang ipapaassess niyo. Dapat match yung duties and responsibilities niyo dun sa mapipili niyong ANZSCO code. Pinakarequired lang is yung Certificate of Employment na may duties and responsibilities.

thank you po

jinigirl

@heydelilah12 said:
Regarding Employment References/CoE requirement as per ACS

Contact details of signatory i.e. phone number and official email address (no personal email
addresses)

okay lang ba either Official email address OR Phone number? mostly kasi ng nakuha kong COE official email lang nakalagay but no phone number. Okay lang po ba un?

yes, basta macocontact, okay lang

lunarcat

Hi po,

I earned my bachelor's degree in IT sa Phils from a section 2 uni po. I completed my diploma and advanced diploma of IT here sa Au. Best ba na iinclude ko yong Au diplomas when submitting my application sa ACS? Nakausap ko yong former TL ko and he included his Au certifcation, not sure if may bearing ba.

jinigirl

@mikodela said:
May steps po ba dito na pwede sundan pano ang process ng ACS? newbie lang din po kasi ako and ang haba na po kas ng thread. Thanks in advance po

Check mo ACS website, meron silang handbook for skills assessment. Nandun na lahat ng info na kelangan mo. Yung thread na 'to is mostly for those na nakapag research na then need lang ng clarification

igado

Hi, anyone here who has the same scenario as mine. I can procure bank statements from the bank, but they said they cant cite the employers name in the statements. Any workaround para maging acceptable sya to ACS?

jinigirl

@igado said:
Hi, anyone here who has the same scenario as mine. I can procure bank statements from the bank, but they said they cant cite the employers name in the statements. Any workaround para maging acceptable sya to ACS?

wala bang ibang pwedeng payment evidence na isend? like payslips, sss/pagibig, ITR?

igado

@jinigirl said:

@igado said:
Hi, anyone here who has the same scenario as mine. I can procure bank statements from the bank, but they said they cant cite the employers name in the statements. Any workaround para maging acceptable sya to ACS?

wala bang ibang pwedeng payment evidence na isend? like payslips, sss/pagibig, ITR?

I'm a consultant/contractor so I pay my own SSS/Pagibig/Philhealth. The employer gives payslips for breakdowns with the companys name and mine but it's watermarked as not valid as official payslip. I still uploaded them, but seems ACS doesnt honor those so I only have my tax docs (2307) and bank statement as valid proofs.

jinigirl

@igado said:

@jinigirl said:

@igado said:
Hi, anyone here who has the same scenario as mine. I can procure bank statements from the bank, but they said they cant cite the employers name in the statements. Any workaround para maging acceptable sya to ACS?

wala bang ibang pwedeng payment evidence na isend? like payslips, sss/pagibig, ITR?

I'm a consultant/contractor so I pay my own SSS/Pagibig/Philhealth. The employer gives payslips for breakdowns with the companys name and mine but it's watermarked as not valid as official payslip. I still uploaded them, but seems ACS doesnt honor those so I only have my tax docs (2307) and bank statement as valid proofs.

so parang freelancer ka? may section sa ACS guidelines tungkol sa freelance:

Bank statements and / or official taxation records -- I guess kaya naman na isa lang dyan as long as may proof na freelancer ka talaga

igado

@jinigirl said:

@igado said:

@jinigirl said:

@igado said:
Hi, anyone here who has the same scenario as mine. I can procure bank statements from the bank, but they said they cant cite the employers name in the statements. Any workaround para maging acceptable sya to ACS?

wala bang ibang pwedeng payment evidence na isend? like payslips, sss/pagibig, ITR?

I'm a consultant/contractor so I pay my own SSS/Pagibig/Philhealth. The employer gives payslips for breakdowns with the companys name and mine but it's watermarked as not valid as official payslip. I still uploaded them, but seems ACS doesnt honor those so I only have my tax docs (2307) and bank statement as valid proofs.

so parang freelancer ka? may section sa ACS guidelines tungkol sa freelance:

Bank statements and / or official taxation records -- I guess kaya naman na isa lang dyan as long as may proof na freelancer ka talaga

Nice, I'll explore this area. I'm sort of freelancing kasi I provide my own official receipts to the company/employer that I'm working for. Will check this further, if hindi magconflict sa mga naprovide kong info sa application. Thanks @jinigirl

mikodela

@jinigirl said:

@mikodela said:
May steps po ba dito na pwede sundan pano ang process ng ACS? newbie lang din po kasi ako and ang haba na po kas ng thread. Thanks in advance po

Check mo ACS website, meron silang handbook for skills assessment. Nandun na lahat ng info na kelangan mo. Yung thread na 'to is mostly for those na nakapag research na then need lang ng clarification

thank you po

charmeleon

Hello, asking for advice po. Ok lang po ba magsubmit ng digital copies ng ITR from employer as payment evidence kasi wala na po binigay samin na physical copy? And kelangan ko pa po ba pirmahan yung ITR?

Also, nagpaassess na po ako nung Jan 2017 sa ACS at gusto ko po sana magtry uli. Pero nung gumawa po ako ng new application, hindi na po tama and employment start/end dates ng work history ko ang naretain lang nila is yung month and year kaya laging end of month yung start/end date. May nakaexperience po ba neto and pano nyo naamend? Thank you!

jinigirl

@charmeleon said:
Hello, asking for advice po. Ok lang po ba magsubmit ng digital copies ng ITR from employer as payment evidence kasi wala na po binigay samin na physical copy? And kelangan ko pa po ba pirmahan yung ITR?

digital copy naman talaga from employer yung ITR na sinusubmit for assessment. not necessary na may pirma kasi sakin walang mga pirma pero positive assessment naman

Also, nagpaassess na po ako nung Jan 2017 sa ACS at gusto ko po sana magtry uli. Pero nung gumawa po ako ng new application, hindi na po tama and employment start/end dates ng work history ko ang naretain lang nila is yung month and year kaya laging end of month yung start/end date. May nakaexperience po ba neto and pano nyo naamend? Thank you!

Panu pong naretain nila? nung ACS ba? Di kasi uso pagpaparenew sa ACS, kelangan mo magsubmit ulet ng new application and provide ng evidence.

charmeleon

@jinigirl said:
Panu pong naretain nila? nung ACS ba? Di kasi uso pagpaparenew sa ACS, kelangan mo magsubmit ulet ng new application and provide ng evidence.

Thanks po for the reply. Bale po since same email/acct po sa 2017 ACS assessment ko yung ginamit ko, pag magclick po ako ng new application lumalabas po yung details ko na sinubmit ko noon - pero yun po mali ang dates na lumalabas sa start/end date ng employment.

maixmyx

Hi, may nakaexperience na po ba na umabot hanggang Appeal for ACS? Gaano po katagal naging experience nyo sa response ng ACS?

I’m losing hope already given na no response pa din po.

Feb 2022 Initial submission with RPL
Apr 2022 response - didnt count some of my work experience

May 2022 Submitted Review
Aug 2022 Response - unsuitable

Jan 2023 Appeal (but i submitted docs to agent Oct 2022)
As of today May 2023 - no response yet

jinigirl

@charmeleon said:

@jinigirl said:
Panu pong naretain nila? nung ACS ba? Di kasi uso pagpaparenew sa ACS, kelangan mo magsubmit ulet ng new application and provide ng evidence.

Thanks po for the reply. Bale po since same email/acct po sa 2017 ACS assessment ko yung ginamit ko, pag magclick po ako ng new application lumalabas po yung details ko na sinubmit ko noon - pero yun po mali ang dates na lumalabas sa start/end date ng employment.

I don't think pwede mo pa sya maupdate eh, so maybe mas okay na gamit ka nalang ng new email para sa new application.

jinigirl

@maixmyx said:
Hi, may nakaexperience na po ba na umabot hanggang Appeal for ACS? Gaano po katagal naging experience nyo sa response ng ACS?

I’m losing hope already given na no response pa din po.

Feb 2022 Initial submission with RPL
Apr 2022 response - didnt count some of my work experience

May 2022 Submitted Review
Aug 2022 Response - unsuitable

Jan 2023 Appeal (but i submitted docs to agent Oct 2022)
As of today May 2023 - no response yet

Ako po, nakaranas na ng review and inabot ng 7 weeks yung review results. Ang question ko, kung Aug 2022 yung unsuitable, bakit Jan lang yung appeal? Sure daw ba na nasend ng agent yung appeal before 60 days? Sobrang busy din kasi ng ACS lately, kaya kung sobrang tagal, mas maganda na tawagan na sila.

igado

@igado said:

@jinigirl said:

@igado said:

@jinigirl said:

@igado said:
Hi, anyone here who has the same scenario as mine. I can procure bank statements from the bank, but they said they cant cite the employers name in the statements. Any workaround para maging acceptable sya to ACS?

wala bang ibang pwedeng payment evidence na isend? like payslips, sss/pagibig, ITR?

I'm a consultant/contractor so I pay my own SSS/Pagibig/Philhealth. The employer gives payslips for breakdowns with the companys name and mine but it's watermarked as not valid as official payslip. I still uploaded them, but seems ACS doesnt honor those so I only have my tax docs (2307) and bank statement as valid proofs.

so parang freelancer ka? may section sa ACS guidelines tungkol sa freelance:

Bank statements and / or official taxation records -- I guess kaya naman na isa lang dyan as long as may proof na freelancer ka talaga

Nice, I'll explore this area. I'm sort of freelancing kasi I provide my own official receipts to the company/employer that I'm working for. Will check this further, if hindi magconflict sa mga naprovide kong info sa application. Thanks @jinigirl

Finally got the result after 16 weeks. Bachelor degree (Minor) 6 years deducted exp. Didn't pursue the freelancing path as there was not enough time to get all supporting docs. Still thanks @jinigirl for helping us with our concerns here. I got a statdec instead for bank statements w/o employer's name, and supporting documents to back up the claim of payment evidence. Fortunately, all of my work experience were counted in.

pamelanikkaromero

Hello, Just wanted to get your insights.
Here's my background:
-- I am a graduate of Bachelors Degree in IT in AMA Computer College
--I have a total of 7 years of Experience in Software/DevOps Engineer

Hindi ko pinursue mag paassess kasi:
--My school is in Section 2 and my degree is only equivalent to Diploma
--Diploma requires I think 5-6 years of experience and ACS will auto deduct pa na 2 years to it.
--ending, baka magkaroon ako ng negative na result.

Here's my plan:
--Take up Masters Degree in AU BUT I got an offer letter already which is Business and Project Management (and it's not really related to ICT), at gusto ko na sanang kunin kasi mura siya and I think attainable naman kasi meron naman ako dependent to work full time.

Questions:
1. After 2 years, Can I still take up a General skill assessment in ACS given my past working experience? pero ung qualification ko is equivalent na sa Higher Education since sa AU ko na ito aaralin?
2. If an employer will sponsor me, hypothetically, and they will hire me as Software/Devops. Am I still required to take an ACS assessment para magrant ako ng sponsor visa?

Salamat po sa tutugon.

lunarcat

@pamelanikkaromero said:
Hello, Just wanted to get your insights.
Here's my background:
-- I am a graduate of Bachelors Degree in IT in AMA Computer College
--I have a total of 7 years of Experience in Software/DevOps Engineer

Hindi ko pinursue mag paassess kasi:
--My school is in Section 2 and my degree is only equivalent to Diploma
--Diploma requires I think 5-6 years of experience and ACS will auto deduct pa na 2 years to it.
--ending, baka magkaroon ako ng negative na result.

Here's my plan:
--Take up Masters Degree in AU BUT I got an offer letter already which is Business and Project Management (and it's not really related to ICT), at gusto ko na sanang kunin kasi mura siya and I think attainable naman kasi meron naman ako dependent to work full time.

Questions:
1. After 2 years, Can I still take up a General skill assessment in ACS given my past working experience? pero ung qualification ko is equivalent na sa Higher Education since sa AU ko na ito aaralin?
2. If an employer will sponsor me, hypothetically, and they will hire me as Software/Devops. Am I still required to take an ACS assessment para magrant ako ng sponsor visa?

Salamat po sa tutugon.

Answering item #2 based on my experience- I did not undergo ACS Assessment when I was granted TSS 482 Medium, while my classmate who has the same nominated occupation and same visa stream undergone ACS Assessment. So I am not sure what are their basis.

RheaMARN1171933

@pamelanikkaromero said:
Hello, Just wanted to get your insights.
Here's my background:
-- I am a graduate of Bachelors Degree in IT in AMA Computer College
--I have a total of 7 years of Experience in Software/DevOps Engineer

Hindi ko pinursue mag paassess kasi:
--My school is in Section 2 and my degree is only equivalent to Diploma
--Diploma requires I think 5-6 years of experience and ACS will auto deduct pa na 2 years to it.
--ending, baka magkaroon ako ng negative na result.

Here's my plan:
--Take up Masters Degree in AU BUT I got an offer letter already which is Business and Project Management (and it's not really related to ICT), at gusto ko na sanang kunin kasi mura siya and I think attainable naman kasi meron naman ako dependent to work full time.

Questions:
1. After 2 years, Can I still take up a General skill assessment in ACS given my past working experience? pero ung qualification ko is equivalent na sa Higher Education since sa AU ko na ito aaralin?
2. If an employer will sponsor me, hypothetically, and they will hire me as Software/Devops. Am I still required to take an ACS assessment para magrant ako ng sponsor visa?

Salamat po sa tutugon.

1 you need to be very careful with this approach. Masters degree will only give you 5 additional points. It still doesn’t change your work experience claim nor resolve your concern about the possibility of getting a negative outcome due to insufficient experience. A lot of things can happen in that 2 years and the current policies may not be applicable by then. You mentioned the course isn’t related with IT, be mindful that when you apply for a student visa, you’ll need to justify why you want to do this course and prove to them that you will go back to your home country. The government is fully aware that a lot use student visa as a stepping stone to migrate to Australia. With the proposed changes in July, expect they will be stricter with student visas. There is a lot of uncertainty in this approach, not to mention the money you will spend. At the end of the day, you will have to ask yourself, is it all worth it for just extra 5 points? Vs staying in your job and continue to gain the relevant experience. You can get 5 points from CCL exam to compensate for your qualification from a section 2 institution. Note that because the masters isn’t related with IT, there’s no bearing at all with your skills assessment. And even if it’s related, it will be somehow tricky because the experience happened prior to the AQF degree qualification.

2this is so hypothetical - if you find a sponsor. No one really knows if you’ll find one and if so, there’s still no getting a way with skills assessment when you apply for PR eventually. You would rather take control of your chances/taking matters that you can control rather than waiting for something such as a sponsor in order to get there - if that makes sense 😉

audreams23

Hello po, Anyone who submitted their skills assessment in ACS last February? Naka-receive na po ba kayo ng outcome? It's been 12 weeks na, wala pang email na receive from them. Thank you.

RheaMARN1171933

@audreams23 said:
Hello po, Anyone who submitted their skills assessment in ACS last February? Naka-receive na po ba kayo ng outcome? It's been 12 weeks na, wala pang email na receive from them. Thank you.

When it’s beyond 12 weeks, that’s when we chase them up for results. Get in touch with them and query it

igado

@audreams23 said:
Hello po, Anyone who submitted their skills assessment in ACS last February? Naka-receive na po ba kayo ng outcome? It's been 12 weeks na, wala pang email na receive from them. Thank you.

@audreams23 said:
Hello po, Anyone who submitted their skills assessment in ACS last February? Naka-receive na po ba kayo ng outcome? It's been 12 weeks na, wala pang email na receive from them. Thank you.

Make sure to check your ACS dashboard kasi yung mga status changes are not notified via email. You'll only receive emails kung may request for additional docs si assessor or kung may result na. Mine took 16 weeks in total. Try to call their customer support, they'll give you the email address of the assessor that you can follow up with if nasa assessor na yung application. Also if you are in PH, better call them as early as 7am, thats 9am in Syd. Sa bandang hapon kasi inaabot minsan ng 30mins to 1hr on hold, and tumatakbo na yung intl call billing.

pamelanikkaromero

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@pamelanikkaromero said:
Hello, Just wanted to get your insights.
Here's my background:
-- I am a graduate of Bachelors Degree in IT in AMA Computer College
--I have a total of 7 years of Experience in Software/DevOps Engineer

Hindi ko pinursue mag paassess kasi:
--My school is in Section 2 and my degree is only equivalent to Diploma
--Diploma requires I think 5-6 years of experience and ACS will auto deduct pa na 2 years to it.
--ending, baka magkaroon ako ng negative na result.

Here's my plan:
--Take up Masters Degree in AU BUT I got an offer letter already which is Business and Project Management (and it's not really related to ICT), at gusto ko na sanang kunin kasi mura siya and I think attainable naman kasi meron naman ako dependent to work full time.

Questions:
1. After 2 years, Can I still take up a General skill assessment in ACS given my past working experience? pero ung qualification ko is equivalent na sa Higher Education since sa AU ko na ito aaralin?
2. If an employer will sponsor me, hypothetically, and they will hire me as Software/Devops. Am I still required to take an ACS assessment para magrant ako ng sponsor visa?

Salamat po sa tutugon.

1 you need to be very careful with this approach. Masters degree will only give you 5 additional points. It still doesn’t change your work experience claim nor resolve your concern about the possibility of getting a negative outcome due to insufficient experience. A lot of things can happen in that 2 years and the current policies may not be applicable by then. You mentioned the course isn’t related with IT, be mindful that when you apply for a student visa, you’ll need to justify why you want to do this course and prove to them that you will go back to your home country. The government is fully aware that a lot use student visa as a stepping stone to migrate to Australia. With the proposed changes in July, expect they will be stricter with student visas. There is a lot of uncertainty in this approach, not to mention the money you will spend. At the end of the day, you will have to ask yourself, is it all worth it for just extra 5 points? Vs staying in your job and continue to gain the relevant experience. You can get 5 points from CCL exam to compensate for your qualification from a section 2 institution. Note that because the masters isn’t related with IT, there’s no bearing at all with your skills assessment. And even if it’s related, it will be somehow tricky because the experience happened prior to the AQF degree qualification.

2this is so hypothetical - if you find a sponsor. No one really knows if you’ll find one and if so, there’s still no getting a way with skills assessment when you apply for PR eventually. You would rather take control of your chances/taking matters that you can control rather than waiting for something such as a sponsor in order to get there - if that makes sense 😉

Thank you sa insights Tama po, I can justify din ung course sa end ko kasi I am handling projects din. Mas mura kasi ito kesa Masters in IT/Software Engineering ang kunin ko. Anyway, tama po ba na total of 6 years lang ung dinededuct ni ACS?