Proof of functional English ability

clickbuddy2009 · May 2014

hi @nikah13, you should answer YES. And your certificate is good enough as an evidence of functional english.

nikah13 · May 2014

@clickbuddy2009 thanks sir!

lock_code2004 · May 2014

@nikah13 - continue with your application.. submit your documents..
pag sinabi ni CO na hindi enough ang english cert mo as dependent, then you need to take the ielts exam..

johnvangie · May 2014

@lock_code2004 May case ba na ganun? Na irequire pa din mag IELTS kahit may college diploma, TOR at Cert of English as med of instruction? Thanks!

lock_code2004 · May 2014

@johnvangie - wala pa akong alam dito sa forum..

johnvangie · May 2014

@lock_code2004 Ah OK... Sana naman ganun pa din. Kasi naisip ko baka mas strict na or new rule nila... Thanks :-)

nikah13 · May 2014

@lock_code2004 thanks sir!

ayan nag bayad na kami at upload ng docs, medicals naman! Sakit sa bulsa pero hopefully it will be worth it!

familiaC · May 2014

@clickbuddy2009 - correct ko lang po, more than 2 years yung tertiary education ng husband ko. dalawa schools nya nung college pero ang na-provide lang namin is yung last school nya pero less than 2 years kasi sya nag-stay dun so I guess yun ang reason why hindi satisfied si CO.

@raiden14 - eto yung mga requirement to prove the english ability of your spouse:
http://www.immi.gov.au/skills/skillselect/index/functional-english/

Proof that confirms a person's ability to communicate in English includes:

- an International English Language Testing System (IELTS) average score of at least 4.5 for the four test components (speaking, reading, listening and writing)
- an Occupational English Test score which is at least equivalent to an IELTS 4.5, and the test was relevant to the nominated occupation
- the applicant's first language is English and they have a current passport from the United Kingdom, United States, Canada, New Zealand or the Republic of Ireland
- a positive assessment by an Adult Migrant English Program service provider in Australia as having functional English
- evidence of a trade, diploma or higher qualification awarded by an institution in or outside Australia which involved at least two years of full-time study and all instruction was in English
- evidence of completion of at least one year of full-time or equivalent study in Australia for a diploma or higher qualification and all instruction was in English.

If I remember it correctly, a few weeks ago meron akong nabasa na at least 5 years of secondary education pero nawala na dyan sa list. I suggest i-provide nyo na lang yung primary and secondary certificate but have your partner review for IELTS para in case na hindi satisfied si CO, your partner is prepared to take the exam.

hi @rara_avis, question ko lang about sa IELTS ng hubby mo. bakit academic exam? ako kasi ang main applicant. general training test ang kukunin ko. eh plan namin kukuha na lang din sya ng IELTS para wala ng question si CO.
thanks!

rara_avis · May 2014

@familiaC That is the earliest available exam kasi and we do not want to test our luck by asking for an extension.

familiaC · May 2014

@rara_avis ah ok sis. ok lang ba either academic or general sa dependent applicant? thanks.

lock_code2004 · May 2014

@rara_avis ah ok sis. ok lang ba either academic or general sa dependent applicant? thanks.

okay lang kahit ano kung dependent na hindi naman mag-claim ng partner skills points..
requirement ng DIAC is general ielts only... remember na mas mahirap ang academic..

ladyinpink · May 2014

medy naconfuse lang, sa EOI kasi wala naman ni-claim si husband sa 'Partner Skills' kasi hindi ako nag IELTS. And nung nag lodge kami ng Visa, sinagot nya 'YES' dun sa part ng functional English language ability. okay lang ba yon? hindi naman related yun sa pagclaim ng points from Partner Skills, kasi may another question pa for IELTS diba?

pero mag uupload naman kami ng College Diploma and TOR which should be enough, tama ba? please enlighten me

StickyNote · May 2014

@ladyinpink tama po ang sagot nyo dun sa part ng functional English language ability. Pareho lang din po ang ginawa namin nung nag-lodge kami way back in 2008. Nag-upload lang ng college diploma, TOR at saka certification from school that instruction was in English.

ladyinpink · May 2014

thank you @stickynote

pero wala ako nung certification from school. sana ok lang yung diploma and tor

StickyNote · May 2014

@ladyinpink kailangan po ang certification from school na ang ang medium of instruction is in English, else hindi tatanggapin yung diploma and TOR as proof of functional English. Hihingan kayo ng ielts results ng CO instead.

ladyinpink · July 2014

visa granted na kami today

ok naman yung diploma and tor ko for proof of functional english

di na humingi si CO ng certification from university.

jeorems · July 2014

hello po just wanted to ask para po dun sa nag second installament kung magkano po ang binayad nio. might do the same din po sa byenan ko na kasama po namin sa application.

Salamat po.

janntdl · November 2014

hello, need help please, plan na po kasi namin magapply for 189 visa, i'm just worried about dun sa second installment, expensive. pwede po ba ko makarequest ng sample ng certificate na galing sa university? kasi ppaapply ko po sa in-laws ko na nasa philiipines. and additionally, my husband only studied 3 years in college ok lang po ba un? kaya walng diploma. ask ko din po possible po kaya na proof ung employment nya here at melbourne as a proof? here is my email [email protected] kung sino mkkaassit for the sample ng cert. thank you

multitasking · November 2014

@janntdl .. another option is let your husband take the ielts test... if i'm not mistaken.. 6 yung score na kailangan.. this level is medyo ok naman ma achieve compared sa normal requirement na 7 sa lahat ng band...

gerardds · November 2014

actually 4.5 overall lang na ielts ang kailangan para sa dependent (not claiming points)
my wife also did not complete her degree and i was contemplating to get letter from the school
pero nagdecide na rin kami n magtake ng ielts.

vhoythoy · November 2014

Hello all,

Tatanong lang po...nag ffill-up na sana kami ng information to lodge and pay for visa BUT got stuck with this one question para sa dependent applicant...

<"Does the applicant have at least functional English language ability?" </b>yes/no

I'm tempted to say "yes" pero eto na pala ang bagong exemption list:

Functional English

- The applicant must be able to communicate in English with the Australian state or territory government or an employer without the use of an interpreter.

- The applicant must be able to provide evidence of one of the following to prove they have functional English:
An International English Language Testing System (IELTS) test result with an average band score of at least 4.5 for the four test components (speaking, reading, listening and writing). The test must have been completed within 12 months of visa application lodgement or can be completed during visa application processing.

A positive assessment by an Adult Migrant English Program service provider in Australia that the applicant has functional English.

Completed all years of primary education and at least three (3) years of secondary education in an institution in or outside Australia and all instructions were in English.

Completed at least five (5) years of secondary education in an institution in or outside of Australia and all instructions were in English.

Completed at least one (1) year of full-time study or equivalent part-time study towards a degree, a higher degree, a diploma or an associate diploma in an institution in Australia and all instructions were in English.

Completed a degree, a higher degree, a diploma or a trade certificate that required at least two (2) years of full-time study or training in an institution in or outside of Australia and all instructions were in English.

The functional level of the Australian Assessment of Communicative English Skills (ACCESS) test certified by the relevant testing body. The test must have been completed within 12 months of visa application lodgement or can be completed during visa application processing.

I'm the dependent of my husband and ang meron lang ako ngayon is certificate from my university stating that "English is generally used as a medium of instruction" (i guess yan lang ini-issue ng up na cert of english )
So basically, hindi nakalagay na "all instructions were in English" kundi "English is generally used"...patay. So ano po ba ang dapat isagot sa question for proof of functional english, YES or NO?

Tapos, pwede kaya na i-yes ko muna tapos mag IELTS nalang ako pag hiningi ni CO or di tanggapin ung certificate of english ko? hihihi medyo mahal kasi ang ielts though alam ko naman etong mga exenses na to may patutunguhan (hopefully) --- pero kung pwede sana di na mag ielts, makatipid ng konti...

thanks in advance sa input...

Kung ako yan, Yes isasagot ko. Bahala na mag question si CO later, pero most likely tingin ko pwede na yan. Its understandable kasi di naman English ang first language sa pinas. May subjects din na Filipino diba.

wizardofOz · November 2014

Meron po ba dito na yung parents or anyone you want to sponsor who is graduate of PUP na formerly known as Philippine College of Commerce (PCC)?

Yung Nanay ko kasi is nag-aral sa PCC, sometime late 1960s and balak ko mag-request sa PUP ng Proof of Courses taken were conducted in English as Proof of Functional English...

Na-archive pa kaya nila yung records ng 1960s?

vhoythoy · November 2014

Meron po ba dito na yung parents or anyone you want to sponsor who is graduate of PUP na formerly known as Philippine College of Commerce (PCC)?

Yung Nanay ko kasi is nag-aral sa PCC, sometime late 1960s and balak ko mag-request sa PUP ng Proof of Courses taken were conducted in English as Proof of Functional English...

Na-archive pa kaya nila yung records ng 1960s?

Kung may original diploma mother mo ok lang yan. malamang gagawin lang nila yan sa templates then signed by the authorised representative sa PUP. kung na archive baka malabo tingin ko lang haha

wizardofOz · November 2014

@vhoythoy in-honor din ba ng DIBP ang High School?

Sa Manila Science ng HS ang nanay ako, at least yun andun pa yung school mismo

vhoythoy · November 2014

@vhoythoy in-honor din ba ng DIBP ang High School?

Sa Manila Science ng HS ang nanay ako, at least yun andun pa yung school mismo

Di na need highschool ung college degree nalang

jeorems · November 2014

same dillema kaso ung in-law ko sa province nag-aral at nagpalit na ng name ung school so we had no choice but to avail ung English Education Charge (EEC) o 2nd installment. medyo may kamahalan but we have to kesa ma-stress ung byenan ko sa IELTS exam. 4.5 naman ung requirement.

I have provided a high school diploma and cert coming from the school for my wife. no news up til now...

wizardofOz · November 2014

hi @jeorems please share if ever tinanggap ng DIBP yung High School docs sa proof of English.. para at least doon na lang kami kkuha ng nanay ko sa HS nya..

jeorems · November 2014

hi @jeorems please share if ever tinanggap ng DIBP yung High School docs sa proof of English.. para at least doon na lang kami kkuha ng nanay ko sa HS nya..

will do kapatid as of now kasi ung reply ng CO eh hinahanap na lang ng eng prof ung byenan ko, wala na siya dun sa list na kailangang i-submit na document which i've reply na mag avail na lang kami ng EEC.

fyi_12 · February 2015

Hi all, ask lang if meron sa inyo na grant ng visa nag provide lang ng primary and secondary diploma and certificates. Yun partner ko kase undergrad (2 years in college ndi natapos ang 4-year course)..nag provide kami TOR and cert from university pero hindi tinaggap ng CO, mukhang gusto ng diploma. weird lang kase when I read before, at least 2 years tertiary pede daw...I'm wondering if pede yun diploma sa primary and secondary plus certificates from the schools.