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Joined: Nov 25, 2014
17 May 2014 - IELTS (L:7.5 R:8.5 W:7 S:7 = O:7.5)
May - Oct some hiccups
02 Nov 2014 - ACS Migration Skills Assessment submitted
19 Nov 2014 - Received ACS positive skill assessment
19 Nov 2014 - EOI submitted with 65 points
Next invitation round is 28 Nov. We're hoping to receive an invitation at this time.
Posts: 74Member
Joined: Apr 20, 2014
Good morning!
May tanong ako regarding some questions from form 80, gusto ko na sya i-front load.
38 Military Service - Kasama ba dito yung ROTC?
48 Personal Contacts in Australia - Mga permanent residents lang ba to? Wala po ako kilala personally na PR or citizen. Ang meron ay student lang, kailangan pa po ba sya i-include?
Thank you in advance!
Nominated Occupation: Engineering Technologist ANZSCO 233914
07/06/14: IELTS GT Exam Take 1
20/06/14: IELTS Results: L:8.5 R:9.0 W:6.5 S:6.5 OBS: 7.5 (Try Again!)
10/07/14: Submitted CDR to EA
25/09/14: Received Positive Assessment from EA (Thank You LORD!)
18/10/14: IELTS GT Exam Take 2
31/10/14: IELTS Results: L:8.0 R:7.5 W:7.0 S:7.0 OBS: 7.5 (Thank You LORD!)
11/11/14: EOI Lodged
14/11/14: Invited to Lodge Subclass 189 Visa
19/11/14: Lodged Application Subclass 189 Visa
20/11/14: Uploaded Documents
Posts: 210Member
Joined: Aug 05, 2014
and welcome pala ! Oct 1 na nag lodge ni contact na ng CO. so kapit mga November batch!
Nominated Occupation : Analyst Programmer 261311
25/02/2014: ACS Assessment and Certification Application Preparation
23/04/2014: ACS Requested Employment References from the 2 company in Statutory Declaration Format (as not in official letterhead)
21/05/2014: Positive assessment from ACS. Suitable for migration and comparable to AQF Bachelor.
03/06/2014: Registered IELTS
19/07/2014: Exam day for General Training Module
01/08/2014: L-7.5 R-7.0 W-7.0 S-8.0 OBS-7.5
01/08/2014: Submitted EOI online - 65 points
10/08/2014: Received an invitation to lodge a Skilled - Independent (Subclass 189) (Permanent) visa application
11/08/2014: Lodge Visa Application
15/08/2014: Withdawn Application as there is a mistake with the lodged EOI points (from 65 to 60)
16/09/2014: Application was successfully withdrawn.
12/10/2014: EOI Invitation for 60 points and lodged on the same day.
27/10/2014: Medical Exam
05/12/2014: Visa Granted, IED 18 Aug 2015
Joined: Feb 16, 2014
15-Feb-14 IELTS IDP-General Training Exam
28-Feb-14 IELTS Results 8.0 8.5 6.5 6.5
03-Mar-14 Submitted Enquiry on Results of Writing and Speaking
13-Mar-14 Notarization of docs for assessment; Submission of docs to AIMS via courier
26-Mar-14 Successful Assessment - Medical Laboratory Techinician ANZSCO 311213 (4 yrs 9 mos work exp); Invitation to take Medical Laboratory Scientist Exam
09-Apr-14 Submission of Forms and Payment to AIMS for MLS Exam via courier
16-Apr-14 Acknowledgement of Payment E-mail from AIMS
12-May-14 Result of Enquiry from IDP 8.0 8.5 7.5 6.5
18-Jun-14 NBI Clearance Requested and Collected on the same day
19-Jul-14 IELTS General Training Take 2; British Council
22-Jul-14 Confirmation of Date and Location of MLS Exam from British Council
01-Aug-14 IELTS Result 8.0 9.0 7.0 7.0
04-Sept-14 AIMS Medical Laboratory Scientist Examination
08-Nov-14 Result received via Mail (letter dated 03 Nov 14); Successful Assessment - Medical Laboratory Scientist ANZSCO 234611
11-Nov-14 EOI - Medical Laboratory Scientist ANZSCO 234611
13-Nov-14 Invitation Received
14-Nov-14 SI 189 Visa Lodged (claimed > 5 yrs of work experience); documents frontloaded
17-Nov-14 Medical Exams @ Radlink and Fullerton Healthcare
24-Nov-14 SG Police Clearance Requested
08-Dec-14 SG Police Clearance Collected; frontloaded other docs (SG PCC, payslips etc)
19-Jan-15 Direct Grant TGBTG!
17-Jun-15 IED
Posts: 210Member
Joined: Aug 05, 2014
So nung nag compute yung EOI ko , 65 points ako, whereas dapat 60 lang. Eh nasa stage na ako na nakapag bayad na ako nung nalaman ko kaya nag hanap hanap ako kung papano gagawin kasi malaki ang chance ma reject kasi mali ang ni claim based on EOI kahit pa pasok pa din sa 60pts.
Swerte ko cguro kasi ni refund ako upon my request of withdrawal. Yung iba daw hinde so imagine mo yun dahil sa nag overlook ka lang
Nominated Occupation : Analyst Programmer 261311
25/02/2014: ACS Assessment and Certification Application Preparation
23/04/2014: ACS Requested Employment References from the 2 company in Statutory Declaration Format (as not in official letterhead)
21/05/2014: Positive assessment from ACS. Suitable for migration and comparable to AQF Bachelor.
03/06/2014: Registered IELTS
19/07/2014: Exam day for General Training Module
01/08/2014: L-7.5 R-7.0 W-7.0 S-8.0 OBS-7.5
01/08/2014: Submitted EOI online - 65 points
10/08/2014: Received an invitation to lodge a Skilled - Independent (Subclass 189) (Permanent) visa application
11/08/2014: Lodge Visa Application
15/08/2014: Withdawn Application as there is a mistake with the lodged EOI points (from 65 to 60)
16/09/2014: Application was successfully withdrawn.
12/10/2014: EOI Invitation for 60 points and lodged on the same day.
27/10/2014: Medical Exam
05/12/2014: Visa Granted, IED 18 Aug 2015
Posts: 74Member
Joined: Apr 20, 2014
Nominated Occupation: Engineering Technologist ANZSCO 233914
07/06/14: IELTS GT Exam Take 1
20/06/14: IELTS Results: L:8.5 R:9.0 W:6.5 S:6.5 OBS: 7.5 (Try Again!)
10/07/14: Submitted CDR to EA
25/09/14: Received Positive Assessment from EA (Thank You LORD!)
18/10/14: IELTS GT Exam Take 2
31/10/14: IELTS Results: L:8.0 R:7.5 W:7.0 S:7.0 OBS: 7.5 (Thank You LORD!)
11/11/14: EOI Lodged
14/11/14: Invited to Lodge Subclass 189 Visa
19/11/14: Lodged Application Subclass 189 Visa
20/11/14: Uploaded Documents
Posts: 466Member
Joined: Jul 17, 2014
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18d1OUvt_9wyGxVrUu-12aoo8evhMKwGFHrf2smAaoU4/edit?pli=1#gid=424981924
IELTS+REMARK - 2MOS | ANZSCO - 3MOS | NT 489 INVITE - 1MO | SA 190 INVITE - 1.5MOS | VISA GRANT - 1.5MOS (15-OCT 2014)
Posts: 25Member
Joined: May 13, 2014
Posts: 391Member
Joined: Mar 24, 2013
1. Assessment - it depends on your assessment body probably 18 to 36k PHP (just to give you an estimate)
2. IELTS - approximately 8k PHP (kahit saang country halos ganito naman ang price ata)
3. Document processing - maybe around 3 to 4k PHP (this is really a rough estimate)
4. Visa application (Main) - currently at 3520AUD
5. Visa application (Additional adult) - currently at 1760AUD
6. Medical - around 4500 PHP
7. Then may mga ibang factors pa like sa english, kids etc.
Hope this helps even if they are just estimates.
13-06-07 IELTS Take 1 (Failed)
13-06-22 Shipped Documents to Engineers Australia
13-08-09 IELTS Take 2 (Failed)
13-09-20 IELTS Take 3 (Failed)
13-10-05 Received Skill Assessment, Electronics Engineer (ANZSCO 233411)
13-10-05 Submitted EOI for190 (60 points) & 489 (65 points)
14-02-25 Suspend EOI (change of plans)
14-07-25 Updated EOI to 189 (60 points)
14-08-10 Received Invitation to apply for 189
14-08-23 Lodge Application
14-10-23 CO Assigned
14-11-05 Visa Grant - Thank you Lord
15-08-03 Initial entry in Perth
Joined: Feb 16, 2014
15-Feb-14 IELTS IDP-General Training Exam
28-Feb-14 IELTS Results 8.0 8.5 6.5 6.5
03-Mar-14 Submitted Enquiry on Results of Writing and Speaking
13-Mar-14 Notarization of docs for assessment; Submission of docs to AIMS via courier
26-Mar-14 Successful Assessment - Medical Laboratory Techinician ANZSCO 311213 (4 yrs 9 mos work exp); Invitation to take Medical Laboratory Scientist Exam
09-Apr-14 Submission of Forms and Payment to AIMS for MLS Exam via courier
16-Apr-14 Acknowledgement of Payment E-mail from AIMS
12-May-14 Result of Enquiry from IDP 8.0 8.5 7.5 6.5
18-Jun-14 NBI Clearance Requested and Collected on the same day
19-Jul-14 IELTS General Training Take 2; British Council
22-Jul-14 Confirmation of Date and Location of MLS Exam from British Council
01-Aug-14 IELTS Result 8.0 9.0 7.0 7.0
04-Sept-14 AIMS Medical Laboratory Scientist Examination
08-Nov-14 Result received via Mail (letter dated 03 Nov 14); Successful Assessment - Medical Laboratory Scientist ANZSCO 234611
11-Nov-14 EOI - Medical Laboratory Scientist ANZSCO 234611
13-Nov-14 Invitation Received
14-Nov-14 SI 189 Visa Lodged (claimed > 5 yrs of work experience); documents frontloaded
17-Nov-14 Medical Exams @ Radlink and Fullerton Healthcare
24-Nov-14 SG Police Clearance Requested
08-Dec-14 SG Police Clearance Collected; frontloaded other docs (SG PCC, payslips etc)
19-Jan-15 Direct Grant TGBTG!
17-Jun-15 IED
Joined: Feb 16, 2014
15-Feb-14 IELTS IDP-General Training Exam
28-Feb-14 IELTS Results 8.0 8.5 6.5 6.5
03-Mar-14 Submitted Enquiry on Results of Writing and Speaking
13-Mar-14 Notarization of docs for assessment; Submission of docs to AIMS via courier
26-Mar-14 Successful Assessment - Medical Laboratory Techinician ANZSCO 311213 (4 yrs 9 mos work exp); Invitation to take Medical Laboratory Scientist Exam
09-Apr-14 Submission of Forms and Payment to AIMS for MLS Exam via courier
16-Apr-14 Acknowledgement of Payment E-mail from AIMS
12-May-14 Result of Enquiry from IDP 8.0 8.5 7.5 6.5
18-Jun-14 NBI Clearance Requested and Collected on the same day
19-Jul-14 IELTS General Training Take 2; British Council
22-Jul-14 Confirmation of Date and Location of MLS Exam from British Council
01-Aug-14 IELTS Result 8.0 9.0 7.0 7.0
04-Sept-14 AIMS Medical Laboratory Scientist Examination
08-Nov-14 Result received via Mail (letter dated 03 Nov 14); Successful Assessment - Medical Laboratory Scientist ANZSCO 234611
11-Nov-14 EOI - Medical Laboratory Scientist ANZSCO 234611
13-Nov-14 Invitation Received
14-Nov-14 SI 189 Visa Lodged (claimed > 5 yrs of work experience); documents frontloaded
17-Nov-14 Medical Exams @ Radlink and Fullerton Healthcare
24-Nov-14 SG Police Clearance Requested
08-Dec-14 SG Police Clearance Collected; frontloaded other docs (SG PCC, payslips etc)
19-Jan-15 Direct Grant TGBTG!
17-Jun-15 IED
Posts: 221Member
Joined: Jun 25, 2012
3 dependents: wife and two kids
ANZSCO 261311-Analyst Programmer
2013-11-08 ACS + total 10 Years credited
2014-03-11 IELTS OBS 7
2014-07-12 EOI Lodged
2014-07-14 NSW State Submitted
2014-08-11 PCC Malaysia Applied
2014-08-18 PCC Malaysia Rcvd
2014-08-26 NSW Invited
2014-09-05 Visa Lodged
2014-09-13 Medical
2014-09-15 NBI Applied
2014-09-22 Medical Completed
2014-09-26 NBI Rcvd
2014-09-30 Frontloaded All docs
2014-10-29 Direct Grant!!! IED - 2015-08-18
2014-11-23 Wife Initial Entry to prepare and look for apartment
2014-12-02 Wife Fulltime job
2014-12-24 Kids,Myself Entry
2014-12-24 - 2014-01-05 Vacation Mode
2015-01-08 - Work From Home (Online from prev company)
and Casual Work (part time)
2015-01-28 Kids First day of School
2015-02-09 - job offer 1
2015-02-10 - job offer 2
2015-02-16 - First Day of Job
2015-03-07 - Passed Driving Knowledge Test
2015-03-20 - Passed Driving Test (Full License)
Posts: 210Member
Joined: Aug 05, 2014
Nominated Occupation : Analyst Programmer 261311
25/02/2014: ACS Assessment and Certification Application Preparation
23/04/2014: ACS Requested Employment References from the 2 company in Statutory Declaration Format (as not in official letterhead)
21/05/2014: Positive assessment from ACS. Suitable for migration and comparable to AQF Bachelor.
03/06/2014: Registered IELTS
19/07/2014: Exam day for General Training Module
01/08/2014: L-7.5 R-7.0 W-7.0 S-8.0 OBS-7.5
01/08/2014: Submitted EOI online - 65 points
10/08/2014: Received an invitation to lodge a Skilled - Independent (Subclass 189) (Permanent) visa application
11/08/2014: Lodge Visa Application
15/08/2014: Withdawn Application as there is a mistake with the lodged EOI points (from 65 to 60)
16/09/2014: Application was successfully withdrawn.
12/10/2014: EOI Invitation for 60 points and lodged on the same day.
27/10/2014: Medical Exam
05/12/2014: Visa Granted, IED 18 Aug 2015
Posts: 142Member
Joined: May 12, 2014
Analyst Programmer (ANZSCO Code 261311)
12/05/2014 Started gathering requirements for ACS
14/06/2014 Submitted ACS skills assessment
01/07/2014 ACS Result Received: AQF Bachelors Degree with Major in Computing
1st Job - Insufficient details
2nd Job - OK
14/08/2014 IELTS Exam - IDP (Speaking)
16/08/2014 IELTS Exam - IDP (Listening, Reading, Writing)
21/08/2014 Appeal to ACS to consider 1st Job Experience
29/08/2014 Received ACS Result - OK (1st job experience counted), IELTS Result Received - OBS 7.5
05/09/2014 EOI Submitted
22/09/2014 Received invitation to lodge visa
10/11/2014 Lodged Visa 189
05/12/2014 Medical at St. Lukes BGC
15/01/2015 Direct Grant
23/04/2015 Flight to Melbourne
Posts: 189Member
Joined: May 01, 2014
Pag naglodge ba, submit na agad mga docs?
Or pwedeng ibang araw? Di ko pa kasi nascan lahat.
Yung payslips ba dapat naka-ctc rin or coloured scan pwede na?
Yung Form 80 ba sinasubmit na pag naglodge?
ANZSCO Code 261311
31.07.2014 - ACS Skills Assessment Result (favorable)
14.11.2014 - IELTS Result R=7.5; L=7.5; S=7.0; W=7.5
16.11.2014 - EOI submitted
28.11.2014 - Received invitation to lodge visa subclass 189
04.12.2014 - Lodged visa subclass 189
08.12.2014 - Uploaded documents
22.12.2014 - Medicals done
28.01.2015 - job offer in Sydney (Salamat po, Panginoon!)
10.02.2015 - received Golden Email. DIRECT GRANT. Salamat po, Lord!
Luke 1:37 For nothing is impossible with GOD.
Posts: 18Member
Joined: Nov 23, 2014
Joined: Feb 16, 2014
15-Feb-14 IELTS IDP-General Training Exam
28-Feb-14 IELTS Results 8.0 8.5 6.5 6.5
03-Mar-14 Submitted Enquiry on Results of Writing and Speaking
13-Mar-14 Notarization of docs for assessment; Submission of docs to AIMS via courier
26-Mar-14 Successful Assessment - Medical Laboratory Techinician ANZSCO 311213 (4 yrs 9 mos work exp); Invitation to take Medical Laboratory Scientist Exam
09-Apr-14 Submission of Forms and Payment to AIMS for MLS Exam via courier
16-Apr-14 Acknowledgement of Payment E-mail from AIMS
12-May-14 Result of Enquiry from IDP 8.0 8.5 7.5 6.5
18-Jun-14 NBI Clearance Requested and Collected on the same day
19-Jul-14 IELTS General Training Take 2; British Council
22-Jul-14 Confirmation of Date and Location of MLS Exam from British Council
01-Aug-14 IELTS Result 8.0 9.0 7.0 7.0
04-Sept-14 AIMS Medical Laboratory Scientist Examination
08-Nov-14 Result received via Mail (letter dated 03 Nov 14); Successful Assessment - Medical Laboratory Scientist ANZSCO 234611
11-Nov-14 EOI - Medical Laboratory Scientist ANZSCO 234611
13-Nov-14 Invitation Received
14-Nov-14 SI 189 Visa Lodged (claimed > 5 yrs of work experience); documents frontloaded
17-Nov-14 Medical Exams @ Radlink and Fullerton Healthcare
24-Nov-14 SG Police Clearance Requested
08-Dec-14 SG Police Clearance Collected; frontloaded other docs (SG PCC, payslips etc)
19-Jan-15 Direct Grant TGBTG!
17-Jun-15 IED
Posts: 1Member
Joined: Nov 29, 2014
Posts: 146Member
Joined: Jan 20, 2014
261311 Analyst Programmer
06 Sep 2013 - Started to collect ACS Requirements
30 Oct 2013 - Submit docs for ACS Assessment
24 Jan 2014 - Received positive ACS Assessment (Bachelors Degree & 8+ yrs work experience)
07 Jun 2014 - IELTS Exam
20 Jun 2014 - IELTS Results: L 8.0 ,R 7.5 ,W 6.5 ,S 6.5, OBS 7.0
05 Aug 2014 - Submitted EOI for 189 Visa
08 Sep 2014 - Invited for Visa 189
22 Sep 2014 - Lodge Visa 189
31 Oct 2014 - Medicals at SL BGC
05 Nov 2014 - Medicals uploaded by SL BGC
20 Nov 2014 - Visa Granted!!! Thank u Lord!! (IED: 25 Sep 2015)
Posts: 5Member
Joined: Nov 25, 2014
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Joined: Nov 25, 2014
Posts: 189Member
Joined: May 01, 2014
Sa Dec 3 ako maglodge. God bless sa ating lahat.
ANZSCO Code 261311
31.07.2014 - ACS Skills Assessment Result (favorable)
14.11.2014 - IELTS Result R=7.5; L=7.5; S=7.0; W=7.5
16.11.2014 - EOI submitted
28.11.2014 - Received invitation to lodge visa subclass 189
04.12.2014 - Lodged visa subclass 189
08.12.2014 - Uploaded documents
22.12.2014 - Medicals done
28.01.2015 - job offer in Sydney (Salamat po, Panginoon!)
10.02.2015 - received Golden Email. DIRECT GRANT. Salamat po, Lord!
Luke 1:37 For nothing is impossible with GOD.
Posts: 142Member
Joined: May 12, 2014
Analyst Programmer (ANZSCO Code 261311)
12/05/2014 Started gathering requirements for ACS
14/06/2014 Submitted ACS skills assessment
01/07/2014 ACS Result Received: AQF Bachelors Degree with Major in Computing
1st Job - Insufficient details
2nd Job - OK
14/08/2014 IELTS Exam - IDP (Speaking)
16/08/2014 IELTS Exam - IDP (Listening, Reading, Writing)
21/08/2014 Appeal to ACS to consider 1st Job Experience
29/08/2014 Received ACS Result - OK (1st job experience counted), IELTS Result Received - OBS 7.5
05/09/2014 EOI Submitted
22/09/2014 Received invitation to lodge visa
10/11/2014 Lodged Visa 189
05/12/2014 Medical at St. Lukes BGC
15/01/2015 Direct Grant
23/04/2015 Flight to Melbourne
Posts: 189Member
Joined: May 01, 2014
ANZSCO Code 261311
31.07.2014 - ACS Skills Assessment Result (favorable)
14.11.2014 - IELTS Result R=7.5; L=7.5; S=7.0; W=7.5
16.11.2014 - EOI submitted
28.11.2014 - Received invitation to lodge visa subclass 189
04.12.2014 - Lodged visa subclass 189
08.12.2014 - Uploaded documents
22.12.2014 - Medicals done
28.01.2015 - job offer in Sydney (Salamat po, Panginoon!)
10.02.2015 - received Golden Email. DIRECT GRANT. Salamat po, Lord!
Luke 1:37 For nothing is impossible with GOD.
Posts: 142Member
Joined: May 12, 2014
Analyst Programmer (ANZSCO Code 261311)
12/05/2014 Started gathering requirements for ACS
14/06/2014 Submitted ACS skills assessment
01/07/2014 ACS Result Received: AQF Bachelors Degree with Major in Computing
1st Job - Insufficient details
2nd Job - OK
14/08/2014 IELTS Exam - IDP (Speaking)
16/08/2014 IELTS Exam - IDP (Listening, Reading, Writing)
21/08/2014 Appeal to ACS to consider 1st Job Experience
29/08/2014 Received ACS Result - OK (1st job experience counted), IELTS Result Received - OBS 7.5
05/09/2014 EOI Submitted
22/09/2014 Received invitation to lodge visa
10/11/2014 Lodged Visa 189
05/12/2014 Medical at St. Lukes BGC
15/01/2015 Direct Grant
23/04/2015 Flight to Melbourne
Posts: 142Member
Joined: May 12, 2014
Analyst Programmer (ANZSCO Code 261311)
12/05/2014 Started gathering requirements for ACS
14/06/2014 Submitted ACS skills assessment
01/07/2014 ACS Result Received: AQF Bachelors Degree with Major in Computing
1st Job - Insufficient details
2nd Job - OK
14/08/2014 IELTS Exam - IDP (Speaking)
16/08/2014 IELTS Exam - IDP (Listening, Reading, Writing)
21/08/2014 Appeal to ACS to consider 1st Job Experience
29/08/2014 Received ACS Result - OK (1st job experience counted), IELTS Result Received - OBS 7.5
05/09/2014 EOI Submitted
22/09/2014 Received invitation to lodge visa
10/11/2014 Lodged Visa 189
05/12/2014 Medical at St. Lukes BGC
15/01/2015 Direct Grant
23/04/2015 Flight to Melbourne
Posts: 189Member
Joined: May 01, 2014
ANZSCO Code 261311
31.07.2014 - ACS Skills Assessment Result (favorable)
14.11.2014 - IELTS Result R=7.5; L=7.5; S=7.0; W=7.5
16.11.2014 - EOI submitted
28.11.2014 - Received invitation to lodge visa subclass 189
04.12.2014 - Lodged visa subclass 189
08.12.2014 - Uploaded documents
22.12.2014 - Medicals done
28.01.2015 - job offer in Sydney (Salamat po, Panginoon!)
10.02.2015 - received Golden Email. DIRECT GRANT. Salamat po, Lord!
Luke 1:37 For nothing is impossible with GOD.
Posts: 97Member
Joined: Nov 29, 2014
Posts: 97Member
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Posts: 189Member
Joined: May 01, 2014
yes, dapat sure ka na lahat ng nilagay mo dun na claim mo na points eh meron kang proof/evidence.
nov 16 ako nagsubmit ng EOI. Nov 28 nainvite na ako. bale 12 days lang.
kahit kelan pwede submit ng EOI, as soon as mareach mo ang 60 pts.
ANZSCO Code 261311
31.07.2014 - ACS Skills Assessment Result (favorable)
14.11.2014 - IELTS Result R=7.5; L=7.5; S=7.0; W=7.5
16.11.2014 - EOI submitted
28.11.2014 - Received invitation to lodge visa subclass 189
04.12.2014 - Lodged visa subclass 189
08.12.2014 - Uploaded documents
22.12.2014 - Medicals done
28.01.2015 - job offer in Sydney (Salamat po, Panginoon!)
10.02.2015 - received Golden Email. DIRECT GRANT. Salamat po, Lord!
Luke 1:37 For nothing is impossible with GOD.