ENGINEERS Corner

Captain_A · July 2012

ok sir tatandaan ko yan.. clarify ko lang sir, pag PR tsaka lng sasagutin ng gov't yung school fees? panu yan sir, visa 489 (provisional) yung pinakaqualified ako.. kukulangin ako sa points pag 189 at 190.. TIA

coolflame · July 2012

Hi, just some queries po:
1) after the assessment ng EA - are u considered as a member?
2) if not, may nagpamember na ba dito? Pwede po bang pa share, (like fees, other requirements, etc.,)

Name: coolflame (mit97)
Occupation: Mechanical Engineer (water utility)
EA Assessment: PE skill level 1 - Mechanical Engineer
State: undecided

k_mavs · July 2012

Reply to @Captain_A: Pag temporary resident po dika qualified sa mga government support. Kapag PR ka lang may ganung privileges.

k_mavs · July 2012

Reply to @coolflame: Hindi pa po kayo considered as member ng EA once you have undergone a skills assessment. you still have to apply for membership medyo mahal lang nga. Nasa website po ng EA yung membership details.

Captain_A · July 2012

salamat @k_mavs

coolflame · July 2012

Reply to @k_mavs: ok sige pagnandun na lang siguro, baka kasi advatsge sya sa pag aapply ng job. Thanks po.

k_mavs · July 2012

Reply to @coolflame: Minsan advantage daw yun.Alam ko may nag inquire na dati dito sa forum about dun sa EA membership. Nahirapan pa run daw syang maghanap ng work nun kahit na member ka pa ng EA.

ryannimizm_24 · July 2012

new member lang po ako question lang po about sa assessment sa EA? sa back read ko po sa ibang topic first requirement ko po is IELTS before the assessment,tama po ba?and I been working as Site Civil Eng for 4 years pero last year i got offer to work as QS, so bali 1 year na din po ako as QS...san po kaya ako mgpapa-assess? Since there's different assessing agency for QS..pero mas gusto ko i-practice as Civil Engineer.

Thanks and regards,

lock_code2004 · July 2012

Reply to @ryannimizm_24:

1. yes tama po.. IELTS is required for EA assessment.
2. Please double check ang requirements for QS assessment, baka may requirements sila working experience at baka hindi pasok ang 1 yr mo. at baka may iba pa ring requirements like membership sa mga QS professional groups..
3. Also, another consideration, check mo ang SOL at ang occupational ceiling, kung ilan ang igrant nilang visa sa occupation na yan...

Goodluck..

ryannimizm_24 · July 2012

Reply to @ryannimizm_24:

1. yes tama po.. IELTS is required for EA assessment.
2. Please double check ang requirements for QS assessment, baka may requirements sila working experience at baka hindi pasok ang 1 yr mo. at baka may iba pa ring requirements like membership sa mga QS professional groups..
3. Also, another consideration, check mo ang SOL at ang occupational ceiling, kung ilan ang igrant nilang visa sa occupation na yan...

Goodluck..

Thanks Sir lock_code,

Plano ko po na sa EA mgpa-assess as Civil Engineer dahil 5 years(4 Dubai + 1 pinas) naman po ako as Civil eng, compare sa QS na 1 year pa lang and Degree and prc ko Civil eng din,wala pa ako Certificate sa QS,sa trabaho ko pa lng ngaun.san po makikita occupational ceiling? please kung mai alam po kau na link..

thanks po

katie0499 · July 2012

@Captain_A kung may relative ka sa australia mas ok makipagsapalaran kase at least they could help you with the accomodation. in terms of jobs.. check mo sa seek.com.au kung meron jobs dun na pwede ka applyan. that would give you an idea pano market ng skill mo.. filter mo din search mo according ot which place you intend to live..

BTW, feeling ko mas madaming job opportunities sa perth kase mas onti tao

Captain_A · July 2012

may malaking punto kayo @katie0499, maraming salamat po. anung engr po ba kayu? nasa Oz na kayu?

lock_code2004 · July 2012

Reply to @ryannimizm_24: here is the link..check the 4th tab "Reports", and then expand "Occupation ceiling"..

http://www.immi.gov.au/skills/skillselect/

ryannimizm_24 · July 2012

Reply to @lock_code2004: Thanks sir,
hindi pla updated browser ko dito sa office kaya di ko na view,nakita ko na lng when i open sa bahay...thanks po.

Captain_A · July 2012

http://www.engineersaustralia.org.au/civil-college/what-civil-engineering

http://www.engineersaustralia.org.au/structural-college/what-structural-engineering

hi.. guys, eto po ang definition ng CE at structural engr based sa EA..

here's my concern,
structural engineer po ako,. wala po sya dun sa occupation list ng WA.. civil engineer lang.. i'd like to choose WA kasi andun tita ko who can assist me.. Structural engg is a discipline of CE. pero kasi magkaiba sila number, 233211 yung Civil engr.. 233214 nmn yung Structural engr.. so parang nalito ako.. 233211 lang yung nakalist sa list sa WA site.. di ko sure if general term lang yung occupation na CIVIL ENGR na nasa list ( meaning included na yung ibang discipline like structural, transport, hydraulic etc).. sa CSOL at SOL kasi nakahiwalay siya.. I'm on the process na din kasi sa EA assessment Career episodes writing. TIA

ang tanung ko lang po ay iisa lng bo ba yung dalawa.. general term lng ang CE??

glaiza1210 · July 2012

@Captain_A , kung ano yung work experience mo yun ang ang inonominate ng EA na occupation mo. So malamang structural Engineer. Kung CE tlga gusto mo you have to prove it based on your work experience. Kase for like us Industrial Engineer pdeng Industrial Engineer or Production Engineer. Pag ang isang IE ay sa production ang work experiences sa Production Engineer sya inonominate pero kung ang isang IE ay more process improvement, analytics, supplychain sa IE sya pasok.

lock_code2004 · July 2012

@Captain_A : based on that definition, check what matches your skills/work experiences...
Kasi kailangan match ang job description mo, sa CDR, at sa assessment na aaplyan mo..

Captain_A · July 2012

Reply to @glaiza1210:

question po, example sa SOL list ng isang State like SA, if nakalagay IE lng.. walang Prod engr which is your nominated occupation,. does that mean.. hndi ka na pwede magpa-SS sa SA? or yung IE is just a general term for all IE discipline like prod engr.. TIA

lock_code2004 · July 2012

Reply to @Captain_A: if I may answer your question...

a) yes.. ang state sponsorship is specific sa nominated occupation (ANZSCO Code)... nag try ko mismo ang example mo.. hehe i'm assessed as IE.. tapos sinabi ko sa application ko sa State Sponsorship na i can demonstrate the skills based sa description ng Prod Engr... ang reply hindi daw pwede...

b) Now, there is what they call "OFF-LIST" nomination... meaning kahit wala sa list ng State SOL ang occupation mo, they can still nominate you... provided you satisfy their "OTHER" requirements... may quota lang ang off-list nomination at kadalasan sa open sya at the start of the program year (July 2012)..

nag try din ako nito last May 2012.. unfortunately puno na daw ang off-list quota... at sabi mag try daw ako pag nag open na ngayong July 2012... hindi ko na hinintay, kaya nagapply na ako ng Independent 175..

glaiza1210 · July 2012

ayan nasagot na pla ni @lock_code2004 , tama sya dun. kaya kung ang work experiences mo is as structural engineer for sure yun ang inonominate ng engineers australia. Icheck mo sa site ng DIAC yung job description ng structural and civil engineer then review and compare it.

mikaela01 · July 2012

Ang haba ng explanation ni @lock_code2004. Pwede Na talaga mag migration agent!

@Captain_A: broad Kasi ang CE field, kaya naintindihan Ko concern mo. Eto suggestion Ko seio, A) pwede ka magtanong sa EA email mo sila regarding sa concern mo. Or

pwede ka mag take ng risk, nominate mo civil eng, parang may nabasa ako d2 Na may instance Na pwedeng sila (EA) ang magsabi seio Kung Saan ka talaga suitable. of course un ang risk that you have to take kse pwedeng Ganon ang mangyari or pwede ka nila I-deny. Sana nakatulong!

Captain_A · July 2012

Reply to @mikaela01:
wow thanks po,.. kala ko non sense yung tanung ko e..

Nico_AU_Dream · July 2012

Reply to @lock_code2004: hello po.. Pano po kaya yung sa case ko. IE po ako. Pero po ang current work ko po ay as Planning Engineer [For Mechanical & Civil field]. Ok lang po ba na IE pa rin ang pipiliin ko sa SQL? Related naman sila. Kaya lang baka po mgdalawang isip ung EA sa pagassest ng papers ko. Slamat

lock_code2004 · July 2012

Reply to @lock_code2004: hello po.. Pano po kaya yung sa case ko. IE po ako. Pero po ang current work ko po ay as Planning Engineer [For Mechanical & Civil field]. Ok lang po ba na IE pa rin ang pipiliin ko sa SQL? Related naman sila. Kaya lang baka po mgdalawang isip ung EA sa pagassest ng papers ko. Slamat

I suggest check the job code description... and also what your cert of employment job description will look like..

only then, malalaman mo kung anu ang pwede mo inominate for assessment...
EA will contact you naman if they think of another job closer to your skill/degree..

redline_mecheng · July 2012

Pasali po.

Name: Chris
Profession: Mechanical Engineer
State: NSW, Sydney

Medyo nahihirapan maghanap ng work,
question lang po, may nabasa ako na sponsored ng government ang pag aaral if PR for 1 year? san po makakakuha ng more info para don? salamat.

teenZseyer · August 2012

hi..mikaela_7 ,tanong kolng po.CE po ako.pinag aaply ako ng tita ng PR nasa OZ cla 20yrs na. nakita ko din sa CSOL sched1 ung profession ko.magkaiba po ba un sa SOL lng?nakagawa na din po ako ng Career episode and CDR kaya lng related pa sa previous experienced ko (position: Associate ENgineer, tasked: structural design and estimate and project monitoring din until completion ng construction ng bldg. na dinesign ko.) question ko po pwede ko po ba gamitin ung sa CSOL SCHED1 233211 Civil Engr? resigned na din po kase ako dun at may new job na po ako ngaun kaya lng 3months plng po ako dito kaya dp ako makagawa ng bagong Career episode and CDR.

teenZseyer · August 2012

hi.. @mikaela_7 ,tanong kolng po.CE po ako.pinag aaply ako ng tita ng PR nasa OZ cla 20yrs na. nakita ko din sa CSOL sched1 ung profession ko.magkaiba po ba un sa SOL lng?nakagawa na din po ako ng Career episode and CDR kaya lng related pa sa previous experienced ko (position: Associate ENgineer, tasked: structural design and estimate and project monitoring din until completion ng construction ng bldg. na dinesign ko.) question ko po pwede ko po ba gamitin ung sa CSOL SCHED1 233211 Civil Engr? resigned na din po kase ako dun at may new job na po ako ngaun kaya lng 3months plng po ako dito kaya dp ako makagawa ng bagong Career episode and CDR.

teenZseyer · August 2012

hi @mikaela01,tanong kolng po.CE po ako.pinag aaply ako ng tita ng PR nasa OZ cla 20yrs na. nakita ko din sa CSOL sched1 ung profession ko.magkaiba po ba un sa SOL lng?nakagawa na din po ako ng Career episode and CDR kaya lng related pa sa previous experienced ko (position: Associate ENgineer, tasked: structural design and estimate and project monitoring din until completion ng construction ng bldg. na dinesign ko.) question ko po pwede ko po ba gamitin ung sa CSOL SCHED1 233211 Civil Engr? resigned na din po kase ako dun at may new job na po ako ngaun kaya lng 3months plng po ako dito kaya dp ako makagawa ng bagong Career episode and CDR.

benjie · August 2012

Hello All.
I have open work visa in New zealand by partnership. my wife is a resident here.
I applied in Perth OZ and they called me yesterday that they will hire me (after 2 phone interviews). They told me they will call me back to instruct me regarding the visa application.
they told me that they want me to work as soon as possible and will possibly use the subclass 417 holiday working visa then after 3 months we will use the subclass 457.
But when i looked at the subclass 417 philippine passport holders are not eligible to use it.

So the best way is to use 457 subclass. I will tell that when they call me possibly tomorrow.
one requirement is IELTS or having studied for 5 consecutive years in a school where english is used as official language for instruction and examination. so in my case I have certificate from my university in MSU-IIT for english medium of instruction. so i dont need ielts anymore.

Then one concern is I am a BS-physics grad but i have 8 years experience as computer aided engineering. I was FEA engineer in cebu for 8 years. so will i be able to get a pass in assessment from EA as mechanical engineer? thank you very much.

the company still havent discussed with me regarding the compensation package. they will probably in the next call coz i emailed them to inform me about the compensation.

mikaela_7 · August 2012

Reply to @teenZseyer:
hi, medyo hindi po ako kabisado sa mga tanong mu...pasensya na po...baka may iba dito sa forum na pwedeng makatulong sayo...For sure may sasagot sayo. Sorry po ulit.