IT Student

frisch24 · November 2019

@superluckyclover kelan na kape natin...?xP hahaha...

frisch24 · November 2019

@lunarcat Sydney and Melbourne has more IT job opportunities, yes. Pero tulad ng ginawa ni @Hikari, may regional places naman na may IT din like Adelaide and Gold Coast. South Australia and Queensland kasi may PR pathway for Graduates sa state nila, you might want to consider that pra hindi ka na mahirapan maghanap ng PR invititation.;)

hikari · November 2019

@frisch24 said:
@hikari ngayon ko lang nakita yung signature mo, so naka 1 sem ka sa Deakin then lumipat ka ng UofA? Hindi ka ba sa Geelong campus ng Deakin?

Deakin Burwood ako. Di kasi available yung course ko sa Geelong. Nag grad cert ako dun tapos tinuloy ko yung masters ko sa UofA

frisch24 · November 2019

@hikari ah. good choice.;) CQU - Melbourne ako graduate. June 2017.;)

superluckyclover · November 2019

@frisch24 said:
@superluckyclover kelan na kape natin...?xP hahaha...

Yes kape na us ulit please!!!

FilVictoria2020 · November 2019

@superluckyclover said:
@Crayon_ said:

Hi po.

New guy here.

Question lang po. Bakit wala masyadong topic about IT students? Konti lang po ba mga programmers and IT specialist people na nag-aaral sa Australia?

I'm currently processing my requirements na. Web Developer/Web Programming po yung course na kukunin ko sa TAFE.

Hindi po ba maganda ang IT course jan at mahihirapan po ba ako makahanap ng job jan after or during school?

Thanks everyone!

Hi! I am an IT graduate. Yes, onti lang ang mga Pinoy na IT international student lalo na yung technical courses. Ako lang ang Pinoy back in 2015 sa La Trobe Uni.

Hindi mahirap makakuha ng IT job dito after graduation, make sure na mag stand out yung portfolio mo at maghasa both soft and technical skills.

During school, bihira dahil 20 hrs max lang a week right? Pero I am pretty sure may tumatanggap. Sa current workplace ko ngayon, may international student kami pero sobrang galing nya talaga sa programming.

Karamihan ng mga Pinoy dito ang kinukuha ay Nursing or Aged Care.

Hello Super LC and Fellow Forum Members,

Good day po sa lahat.

Pwede po makisingit na rin dito, spotted this and very interested kami sa topic na to.
You had been helping me po in other threads.
Anak po namin (who is migrating with us) is interested in Comp Sci or IT in near future. Here are my queries po:

1) Is Comp Sci or IT schooling in Melbourne good in general or depende sa school? Mahirap ba maka pasok sa Comp Sci or IT course sa Australia? May competitive exams ba?

2) If Aust uni graduate po ng Comp Sci or IT, what are the prospects of getting a relevant job soon after graduation?

3) Is Masters level/degree recommended for CS or IT grad sa Australia (assuming bachelors is from Aust Uni also)?

Appreciate po the usual kind info and help. Thank you.

frisch24 · November 2019

@FilVictoria2020

1.) I can't really comment on the comparison between schools kasi I don't remember talking with anyone how professors and/or exams are on the other schools. But I think university name does affect both visa PR application (as per an agent na nakausap ko) and sa paghahanap ng work, especially kung big companies ang target mo.

2.) Prospects of getting a relevant job? I am not sure kung ano yung tanong pero some unis offer Internship rather than Project or Thesis presentation which could be a good chance sa anak mo na maabsorb cya after kung okies naman performance nya during internship.

3.) Honestly, I only took Masters mainly because I have already finished Bachelors in Comp Sci sa Philippines. It would be questionable kung Bachelors ako ulit dito, not unless ibang course. Besides, ang alam ko 3 - 4 years ang Bachelors dito, 2 years lang Masters, which mean mas mura. You can't take Masters though ng hindi pa nakakatapos ng Bachelors.

superluckyclover · November 2019

@FilVictoria2020

1) Maganda ang quality of education nang Australian universities. Hindi ko alam kung mahirap or hindi kasi pag international student, basta may show money
at mataas ang approval rate nang visa, lenient naman sila. In short, form of business ang education dito dahil na-attract nila yung mga foreign students. Well maganda kung mataas ang grades pero di sila masyadong concern don unlike sa Pinas na dapat may honours.

Maganda ang facilities at maraming perks hindi lang academically related. So very conducive ang environment when it comes to learning.

2) Ang job ay nakadepende kung pano i-sell ang sarili. Both mixture of personality, soft skills at technical skills. Kung PR or/at Aus Citizen,
mas mataas ang priority dahil syempre walang limitation sa work hours, sponsorship etc. (pero hindi ganto always ang case kasi marami pa
din iniisponsor na expats kapag wala talagang nakikita amongst local candidates)

Marami akong colleagues na non-IT ang degree. Yung magagaling namin na devs, high school leaver. Meaning natuto na sila sa workplace.

3) Masters ako pero maybe 80% nang subjects ko, ang mga classmates ko ay bachelor students so di ko alam kung pano yung segregation talaga.
Ang bachelor ko ay non-CS/IT so the struggle was real.

Siguro makaka help ang masters kung gusto mo mag pursue nang PhD in the future or if international student, syempre yung dependent ay full working rights
(factor din kaya pinili ko masters para full-time work si hubby nung student visa pa kami )

FilVictoria2020 · November 2019

@frisch24 said:
@FilVictoria2020

1.) I can't really comment on the comparison between schools kasi I don't remember talking with anyone how professors and/or exams are on the other schools. But I think university name does affect both visa PR application (as per an agent na nakausap ko) and sa paghahanap ng work, especially kung big companies ang target mo.

2.) Prospects of getting a relevant job? I am not sure kung ano yung tanong pero some unis offer Internship rather than Project or Thesis presentation which could be a good chance sa anak mo na maabsorb cya after kung okies naman performance nya during internship.

3.) Honestly, I only took Masters mainly because I have already finished Bachelors in Comp Sci sa Philippines. It would be questionable kung Bachelors ako ulit dito, not unless ibang course. Besides, ang alam ko 3 - 4 years ang Bachelors dito, 2 years lang Masters, which mean mas mura. You can't take Masters though ng hindi pa nakakatapos ng Bachelors.

Hi Po Frisch24,
Salamat sa lahat na info bnigay mo especially sa #3, noted po ang lahat ng info. I assume nag masters po kayo dito IT related po ba? Thank you.

Crayon_ · November 2019

@frisch24 For item # 3:

3.) Honestly, I only took Masters mainly because I have already finished Bachelors in Comp Sci sa Philippines. It would be questionable kung Bachelors ako ulit dito, not unless ibang course. Besides, ang alam ko 3 - 4 years ang Bachelors dito, 2 years lang Masters, which mean mas mura. You can't take Masters though ng hindi pa nakakatapos ng Bachelors._

Question: Diploman in Web Dev ang kinuha ko sa TAFE NSW pero graduate ako ng bachelor degree dito sa Pinas. Hindi po ba ako mayayari nyan sa embassy? Hahahaha wala akong money for Masteral eh.

Crayon_ · November 2019

Nakakatuwa naman humahaba na yung ginawa kong topic. More IT students pleeaaase! Magtulungan po tayo.

FilVictoria2020 · November 2019

@superluckyclover said:
@FilVictoria2020

1) Maganda ang quality of education nang Australian universities. Hindi ko alam kung mahirap or hindi kasi pag international student, basta may show money
at mataas ang approval rate nang visa, lenient naman sila. In short, form of business ang education dito dahil na-attract nila yung mga foreign students. Well maganda kung mataas ang grades pero di sila masyadong concern don unlike sa Pinas na dapat may honours.

Maganda ang facilities at maraming perks hindi lang academically related. So very conducive ang environment when it comes to learning.

2) Ang job ay nakadepende kung pano i-sell ang sarili. Both mixture of personality, soft skills at technical skills. Kung PR or/at Aus Citizen,
mas mataas ang priority dahil syempre walang limitation sa work hours, sponsorship etc. (pero hindi ganto always ang case kasi marami pa
din iniisponsor na expats kapag wala talagang nakikita amongst local candidates)

Marami akong colleagues na non-IT ang degree. Yung magagaling namin na devs, high school leaver. Meaning natuto na sila sa workplace.

3) Masters ako pero maybe 80% nang subjects ko, ang mga classmates ko ay bachelor students so di ko alam kung pano yung segregation talaga.
Ang bachelor ko ay non-CS/IT so the struggle was real.

Siguro makaka help ang masters kung gusto mo mag pursue nang PhD in the future or if international student, syempre yung dependent ay full working rights
(factor din kaya pinili ko masters para full-time work si hubby nung student visa pa kami )

Hello Super LC, thanks po uli sa reply. yung sa number 1, nababasa nga namin maganda talaga facilities Australian unis.. conducive for learning.

Yung #2, magandang info po yun nabigay niyo, well noted.

Yung #3, noted po. pag masters nu po sa IT, lahat na man po ng bachelors subjects niyo from Phil na credit po?

Thank you!

billielee · December 2019

Waiting din po ako sa Result ng visa.

Master in IT po kinuha kong course. Sa Brisbane.

Sir @frisch24 sobrang layo po ba ng education environment sa Ph sa Au? IT graduate din po ako dito satin.

frisch24 · December 2019

@FilVictoria2020 Masters in IT po ako dito sa Aus. CQU po, Melbourne campus.

frisch24 · December 2019

@Crayon_ anong bachelor tinapos mo sa Pinas? IT related ba?

frisch24 · December 2019

@billielee hindi naman masyadong different. concentrated pa rin sa Java and SQL. pagdating naman sa research papers, i'm not really sure kasi parang hindi naman sila ganun kahigpit nung Bachelors pa. Dito kasi kelangan ng reliable references and proper citation. kaya mas ok na gumawa na lang ng program/application kesa gumawa ng research paper.xP hahaha.

Crayon_ · December 2019

@frisch24 Opo sir. Bachelor in IT po tinapos ko sir.

superluckyclover · December 2019

@FilVictoria2020

Indeed, maganda! word class daw ang facilities - up to date, may free access sa Lynda.com, may free Microsoft office suite.

Yung #3, noted po. pag masters nu po sa IT, lahat na man po ng bachelors subjects niyo from Phil na credit po?

- Hindi ako IT sa Pinas (bachelors) so di ako nag pa credit. Si @frisch24 ay IT na sa Pinas, let's wait for his response.

frisch24 · December 2019

@crayon_ ahhh... nakaenroll ka na ba and may student visa ka na?

FilVictoria2020 · December 2019

@superluckyclover said:
@FilVictoria2020

Indeed, maganda! word class daw ang facilities - up to date, may free access sa Lynda.com, may free Microsoft office suite.

Yung #3, noted po. pag masters nu po sa IT, lahat na man po ng bachelors subjects niyo from Phil na credit po?

- Hindi ako IT sa Pinas (bachelors) so di ako nag pa credit. Si @frisch24 ay IT na sa Pinas, let's wait for his response.

Ok po Super LC, noted po. Good afternoon po diyan.

frisch24 · December 2019

@FilVictoria2020 nope, ala pong nacredit sa subjects ko from bachelor. maybe because of the school. FEU kasi ako (fairview campus), level 2 yung school ko nung 2015 kaya AQF Diploma lang yung ACS assessment ko, hindi Bachelor graduate.

Siguro kung considered as AQF Bachelor yung pinagaralan ko sa Pinas, pede ko pang ipacredit yung subjects ko nung bachelor ako.

FilVictoria2020 · December 2019

@frisch24 said:
@FilVictoria2020 Masters in IT po ako dito sa Aus. CQU po, Melbourne campus.

Noted po Frisch24, wow encouraging po talaga to see fellow Pinoys finishing either Bachelors or Masters sa Australia, world class kasi ang education diyan recognized world wide, thank you po uli. Hope po patuloy kayo magbigay info sa mga tanong ko. Regards.

Crayon_ · December 2019

@frisch24 AECC po yung agent ko ang sa TAFE NSW po nila ako pinapapasok kasi walang show money po. (Sa totoo lang po namamahalan ako sa tuition fee ng IT sa TAFE, kaso ang problem ko po wala ng ibang school na inooffer sakin si AECC). Nag emial na po sakin yung TAFE for offer letter, Right now po nag rereview ako for english test.

frisch24 · December 2019

@Crayon_ saang school ka ba graduate? and ikaw pumili ng Sydney?

Crayon_ · December 2019

Sir @frisch24 sa Jose Rizal University po ako graduate (level 1 po sya sa assessment). Ako po pumili sa Sdyney kasi nandon po yung bestfriend ko na susupport muna sakin for months of stay.

FilVictoria2020 · December 2019

@frisch24 said:
@FilVictoria2020 nope, ala pong nacredit sa subjects ko from bachelor. maybe because of the school. FEU kasi ako (fairview campus), level 2 yung school ko nung 2015 kaya AQF Diploma lang yung ACS assessment ko, hindi Bachelor graduate.

Siguro kung considered as AQF Bachelor yung pinagaralan ko sa Pinas, pede ko pang ipacredit yung subjects ko nung bachelor ako.

Dear Sir Frisch24,
Salamat for being helpful and informative. .. bale po ask ko lang >> Ang ACS assessment na Diploma based on AQF, pwede rin po mag proceed to take Masters? Appreciate po the clarification.. thank you.

frisch24 · December 2019

@FilVictoria2020 yes. actually, school ang magaassess kung pede ka mag-Masters. ACS is usually for visa purposes. Hindi rin kasi ako inadvisan ng agent ko before, even yung school, kung may pede ipa-credit na subject.

You can try, check mo na lang requirements pra sa subject credit, ala naman mawawala.;)

frisch24 · December 2019

@Crayon_ ah... i think it would be good for you na Sydney rin kasi NSW at SA lang nakita ko na nagbibigay ng 190 for Web Developers. Ala dito sa VIC yan eh.=/

FilVictoria2020 · December 2019

@frisch24 said:
@FilVictoria2020 yes. actually, school ang magaassess kung pede ka mag-Masters. ACS is usually for visa purposes. Hindi rin kasi ako inadvisan ng agent ko before, even yung school, kung may pede ipa-credit na subject.

You can try, check mo na lang requirements pra sa subject credit, ala naman mawawala.;)

Dear Sir Frisch,
Thank you and noted, very clear po.

billielee · December 2019

@frisch24 said:
@billielee hindi naman masyadong different. concentrated pa rin sa Java and SQL. pagdating naman sa research papers, i'm not really sure kasi parang hindi naman sila ganun kahigpit nung Bachelors pa. Dito kasi kelangan ng reliable references and proper citation. kaya mas ok na gumawa na lang ng program/application kesa gumawa ng research paper.xP hahaha.

Kahit po sa Masters? SQL and Java ang focus? Medyo kabado po ako

@frisch24 said:
@FilVictoria2020 Masters in IT po ako dito sa Aus. CQU po, Melbourne campus.

CQU din po ako dapat kasi ang pathway na inoffer sakin po is Bachelor na 3 yrs + 1 yr na masters. Medyo matagal po kaya naghanap po kami ibang uni.

Sa uni po na inenroll-an ko po meron lang pong 1st sem na qualifying, may idea po ba sila ano gnagawa sa qualifying?

@Crayon_ said:
@frisch24 AECC po yung agent ko ang sa TAFE NSW po nila ako pinapapasok kasi walang show money po. (Sa totoo lang po namamahalan ako sa tuition fee ng IT sa TAFE, kaso ang problem ko po wala ng ibang school na inooffer sakin si AECC). Nag emial na po sakin yung TAFE for offer letter, Right now po nag rereview ako for english test.

Same po tayo AECC din po ako. Nag lodge ka na ng visa?