Initial Entry Deadline

peach17 · July 2013

Guys, ano po ba yung advisable buffer/allowance to consider para sa Initial Entry Date.

Sa case po kasi namin. November 11 ang IED namin. And we are planning na sulitin ang stay namin dito sa pinas and go to Australia by November 6.

Okay lang po ba na sagarin yung IED? 5 days lang magiging allowance namin. Hindi naman po ba yun delikado?

pmzinoz · July 2013

^ only concern I have is kapag for some reason eh ma-delay ang flight nyo..

But on the other hand, if meron ka naman valid reason bakit na delay at may proof naman kayo ng intended move date is before ng IED, i believe there shouldn't be any problem. :-)

JCsantos · July 2013

^ only concern I have is kapag for some reason eh ma-delay ang flight nyo..
:-)

ito rin naisip ko ... wag namang sana na before kayo umalis e biglang ma delay at walang possibleng flight to au ( which is impossible naman ) paso ang visa nyo

peach17 · July 2013

ung 5 days allowance po ba eh enough na? or masyado risky?

Khaosan_Road · July 2013

batchmate, wala naman ako nakikitang iba pang issue maliban dun sa ma-delay or ma-cancel. Worst case scenario, magbook ka ulit the next few days or the same day.. yun lang mahal na. So I think it should be fine

pmzinoz · July 2013

@peach17

Kung ako sayo para mabawasan ang risk at pag-iisip kung ma delay ba or kung ano mang reason, if possible and kung wala pa kayo plane ticket, why don't you just move the date say 15 to 20 days prior IED para hindi mo na problemahin.

jvframos · July 2013

hello everyone, ask ko lang sans with regards to IED, dap at ba lahat ng kasama sa application say young family ay dap at mag IED din kasabay ng primary applicant? thanks

lock_code2004 · July 2013

@jvframos - not necessarily sabay sabay with primary...
BUT all should satisfy the entry requirement before the IED...

some other visa grant may condition, example:
- Dapat mauna mag entry ang Primary, pwde sabay sabay ang lahat
- pero hindi pwede mauna ang secondary..

JCsantos · July 2013

hello everyone, ask ko lang sans with regards to IED, dap at ba lahat ng kasama sa application say young family ay dap at mag IED din kasabay ng primary applicant? thanks

Kahit inde sabay basta lahat kayo maka entry before the expiration

Filamokio · July 2013

@peach17 5 days are actually no risk at all. Kami nga 2 days before the IED eh.

pmzinoz · July 2013

^ Personally I wouldn't do that if possible.. Less worry sa akin because you never know and you can not control external factors that may contribute to delayed flights. Better safe than sorry. For me, if you can choose din lang, more buffer days much better.. say 15-20 days compare to less than 5 days. IMHO

pmzinoz · July 2013

puede siguro natin itanong sa DIAC yung case na may confirmed plane ticket ka na before ang IED and for some reason na delay ang flight or hindi ka nakasama sa flight...

1.) Hindi ba mapapaso ang IED kung may valid reason?
2.) Ano ang mga valid reason?
3.) If hindi valid ang reason, void ba ang VISA mo, wala bang parang penalty na lang or grace period etc...

If we have these informations, we can plan ahead with no worries at all.

nalooka · July 2013

Baka sis @peach17 pwedeng mag initial entry date kahit 3 days lang muna dun. Gusto kong itry nga sana ung air asia kasi mura pamasahe - from Ph to Malaysia muna then from KL saka mag AU.

Undecided pa kasi ako kung October or January na ako pupunta dun, pero April pa naman IED ko.

TasBurrfoot · July 2013

puede siguro natin itanong sa DIAC yung case na may confirmed plane ticket ka na before ang IED and for some reason na delay ang flight or hindi ka nakasama sa flight...

1.) Hindi ba mapapaso ang IED kung may valid reason?
2.) Ano ang mga valid reason?
3.) If hindi valid ang reason, void ba ang VISA mo, wala bang parang penalty na lang or grace period etc...

If we have these informations, we can plan ahead with no worries at all.

I could be wrong but pwede naman sabihin ng DIAC that it is not their problem that your visa validity has lapsed... In the first place, may sufficient time naman binigay.

JCsantos · July 2013

Or not unless it's a life threatening situation

peach17 · July 2013

batchmate, wala naman ako nakikitang iba pang issue maliban dun sa ma-delay or ma-cancel. Worst case scenario, magbook ka ulit the next few days or the same day.. yun lang mahal na. So I think it should be fine

thanks batchmate @Khaosan_Road..
hmmm gusto muna sana namin tapusin ang Nov 1 bago pumunta sa Au.

Baka gawin na lang namin Nov 2 ang flight para nman may 10 days buffer.

peach17 · July 2013

@peach17

Kung ako sayo para mabawasan ang risk at pag-iisip kung ma delay ba or kung ano mang reason, if possible and kung wala pa kayo plane ticket, why don't you just move the date say 15 to 20 days prior IED para hindi mo na problemahin.

Hi @pmzinoz, Nov 2 na lang cguro ang kunin naming flight. Tapusin muna namin ang Nov 1 dito sa pinas.
every year kasi napunta kami sa Sementeryo at buong araw kami dun nag sstay...

cguro okay na ung 10 days na buffer no? for our Nov 12 IED...

Im praying na wag magkaron ng delays or anything...

peach17 · July 2013

@peach17 5 days are actually no risk at all. Kami nga 2 days before the IED eh.

@Filamokio, hehe parang di ko kaya yun sis... magdagdag na lang ako ng 4 days sa initial plan nmin na Nov 6.. Gawin na naming Nov 2

pmzinoz · July 2013

@peach17

I think that would be a good decision just in case may unavoidable circumstances meron pa kayo time mag adjust.

Of course we all wanted to have a smoothly executed plan but some things are not in our hands so better safe especially if may kids, you don't want to contact DIAC if this unforeseen scenarios suddenly came up.

pmzinoz · July 2013

@TasBurrfoot

Yes, DIAC can always say that na sufficient ang time na binigay to prepare and I personally would not want to risk na mag laps ang IED but for those na kelangan sagarin ang IED or let's say nag laps na ang IED, wala ba silang consideration or something done para sa mga ganitong cases? Talaga bang void na yung VISA na pinaghirapan natin?

I will check on this further, curious lang ako on what DIAC stands on this cases.

TasBurrfoot · July 2013

@TasBurrfoot

Yes, DIAC can always say that na sufficient ang time na binigay to prepare and I personally would not want to risk na mag laps ang IED but for those na kelangan sagarin ang IED or let's say nag laps na ang IED, wala ba silang consideration or something done para sa mga ganitong cases? Talaga bang void na yung VISA na pinaghirapan natin?

I will check on this further, curious lang ako on what DIAC stands on this cases.

You can ask your CO and let us know here...

jengrata · July 2013

puede siguro natin itanong sa DIAC yung case na may confirmed plane ticket ka na before ang IED and for some reason na delay ang flight or hindi ka nakasama sa flight...

1.) Hindi ba mapapaso ang IED kung may valid reason?
2.) Ano ang mga valid reason?
3.) If hindi valid ang reason, void ba ang VISA mo, wala bang parang penalty na lang or grace period etc...

If we have these informations, we can plan ahead with no worries at all.
I could be wrong but pwede naman sabihin ng DIAC that it is not their problem that your visa validity has lapsed... In the first place, may sufficient time naman binigay.

Oo nga naman, sobrang haba na nung almost 1 year or 6mos para sa mga may medical findings. Kasi puede nila sabihin, kung di ka pa pala prepared bakit nagpasa ka na agad ng application in the first place. Tsaka napakalaki at napakarami mo ng na-invest para lang ma-PR sa Au, tapos di ka rin pala "excited" pumunta or better yet i-risk mo na maglapse IED mo for factors out of hand. Shempre tayo mas mahabang preparation at pag-iipon mas ok di ba pero i think wala sila pakialam dun. Ang iniisip nila once na nagpasa ka application, handa ka na emotionally, financially and physically anytime maapprove. Weird nga, marami sa atin nagmamadali magrant tapos di nmn pala agad pupunta, isa na ako sa guilty dito. Hehehe.

Nadine · July 2013

I personally don't think DIAC will care. It's not their job to make us comply with the entry requirement.

1. Hindi naman nila visa ang maaalanganin. A visa is only a visa. It doesn't make us PR. It's the entry that "activates" it. Wala pakialam gobyerno, di ka pa resident nila.
2. They have way too much on their plate. It's not their loss if one migrant can't enter at a specified time.
3. A deadline is a deadline. I've learned that dito. They have steadfast rules. Pag sinabi 8am, it's 8am. If you can't make it, you better have a good excuse at hand.

Ang naiisip ko lang valid reason is a life-threatening condition. In which case, they can probably say, you're not medically fit to enter anyway. And have you reapply once medically cleared.

peach17 · July 2013

andaming very nice points from @pmzinoz @TassBurrfoot @jengrata and @Nadine, @JCsantos

at dahil dito...we've decided to pull in our flight date to Sydney

Thanks guys for all the enlightenment

@pmzinoz, pag na ask nyo na po si CO nyo or si DIAC, balitaan nyo po kami ah

stolich18 · July 2013

^ my husband and son entered Australia a few days before the deadline (5 days lang ata). I would not recommend it though, bka magkaissue sa delayed flights and all. But yea it's possible

Ako ung primary applicant, nauna lang ako ng more than 1 month sa knila

peach17 · July 2013

^ my husband and son entered Australia a few days before the deadline (5 days lang ata). I would not recommend it though, bka magkaissue sa delayed flights and all. But yea it's possible Ako ung primary applicant, nauna lang ako ng more than 1 month sa knila

Hi @stolich18, Nov 2 na yung flight namin to Sydney. Nov 11 ang IED namin. Okay na yung 9 days na buffer no?

icebreaker1928 · July 2013

^ my husband and son entered Australia a few days before the deadline (5 days lang ata). I would not recommend it though, bka magkaissue sa delayed flights and all. But yea it's possible Ako ung primary applicant, nauna lang ako ng more than 1 month sa knila

Hi @stolich18, Nov 2 na yung flight namin to Sydney. Nov 11 ang IED namin. Okay na yung 9 days na buffer no?

pwede na yan, 10 days lang kami sa IED... kung magkaproblema man, may enough time pa.

peach17 · July 2013

thanks @icebreaker1928. one less thing to worry

pray lang kami na walang delays na mangyari

Phil_Sing_Au · July 2013

Hi guys, i am in dilemma right now. End of August ang dedline ng IED namin pero until now dko pa rin na book ng ticket ang family ko. Wala kasi ako nakukuhang accomodation. Haiz sana naman meron dyan may magandang kalooban na willing mag pa stay sa amin kahit 1 week lang. Meron kasi ako 1 yr old baby eh, worried ako sa kanya lalo na ngayun winter pa. Nang hihinayang naman ako kung di sila makapag entry. WA nga pala destination namin.

TasBurrfoot · July 2013

Hi guys, i am in dilemma right now. End of August ang dedline ng IED namin pero until now dko pa rin na book ng ticket ang family ko. Wala kasi ako nakukuhang accomodation. Haiz sana naman meron dyan may magandang kalooban na willing mag pa stay sa amin kahit 1 week lang. Meron kasi ako 1 yr old baby eh, worried ako sa kanya lalo na ngayun winter pa. Nang hihinayang naman ako kung di sila makapag entry. WA nga pala destination namin.

I can't understand why you were not able to book tickets just because of accommodation concerns; that should not be problem I guess...

Ang malaking problema now is (1) mahal na ang tickets as you much depart no later than 2 months from now and (2) if you can't go by end August, then it is goodbye to the Australian dreams.

All the best to you!

jvframos · July 2013

@Phil_Sing_Au why don't you try to book for a hostel or inn for the meantime. try booking.com to look for hotels with different price range. wag mo compromise young IED nyo otherwise mababalewala lahat ng preparations nyo to reach this far. Hope you can settle everything earlier.