Australian Computer Society Skills Application

Abraham · November 2013

@ringo Thank you Sir. Follow up questions lang. Lage natalagang may minus na 2 years sa lahat ng mga skill assessment ng ACS ngaun? Almost 4 years din experience ko sa company A,B and C. Kung automatic na nag babawas sila ng mga ilang years, malamang Company D and E lang (o baka D only) ang ma kicredit and that's 2 to 3 years lang. Kung ganon, possible pa din bang makakuha ng points pag 2 to 3 years lang ang suitable na skills?

echo · November 2013

Meron po bang taga San Jose Recoletos Cebu dito?

Dyan ak nag master in IT pero di natapos

. I graduated in UC.

buchock · November 2013

@Abraham - hindi naman laging may kaltas na 2 years. Yung 2 years na yan ay based sa Education Qualification(ICT Major or ICT Minor), Related to ANZSCO Code at Work Experience (yung number of years na required based yun sa Education at kung related yung ANZCO mo) check mo ang Summary of Criteria
https://www.acs.org.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0016/7324/Summary-of-Criteria-Oct-2013.pdf

Example:
Total years of experience ko : 6 years
BS. Comp Eng

Assessment:
Education - AQF Bachelor Degree with a major in computing
ANZSCO Code - 261311 Analyst Programmer
Work Experience:
Ito yung Criteria which is dito ako nagfall:
- Required Qualification : Bachelor Degree or higher
- Required ICT Content : ICT Major
- Required Qualification Closely Related to ANZSCO : Closely related to the nominated occupation
- Required Relevant Work Experience : 2 years relevant work experience completed in the last 10 years or 4 years relevant work experience completed anytime in past work history

So based sa criteria sa taas, need ko ng 2 years of work experiece. and after that first 2 years is considered as "Suitable". kung may 6 years ako, 4 years na lang ang pwede kong iclaim kasi hindi counted ang first 2 years.

Hindi naman binabawas ng ACS yung work experience mo. Sinasabi lang nila na anong year ka naging suitable at from that year yan ang pwede mong i-claim once nag-apply ka ng visa.
Nagstart yung ganito after month of March 2013 this year (kung hindi ako nagkakamali ah), kasi yung sa kasama ko sa work iba ang letter ng ACS sa kanya compare sa akin. Si IELTS na lang talaga ang pag-asa ko or hintay pa ako ngkonti at magpa-assess ulit ako.

Hope this will help.

@ringo Thank you Sir. Follow up questions lang. Lage natalagang may minus na 2 years sa lahat ng mga skill assessment ng ACS ngaun? Almost 4 years din experience ko sa company A,B and C. Kung automatic na nag babawas sila ng mga ilang years, malamang Company D and E lang (o baka D only) ang ma kicredit and that's 2 to 3 years lang. Kung ganon, possible pa din bang makakuha ng points pag 2 to 3 years lang ang suitable na skills?

Abraham · November 2013

@buchock Thanks also Sir. Mabilis talaga mag bago ung process ng migration sa AU. Kaya malaki talaga tulong nitong forum na to para sa mga latest updates. Pag pasa ko ng ACS requirements, IELTS din ang siseryosohin ko habang nag hihintay ng ACS results. Naway makakuha ng suitable ACS assessment and 7 or 8 (mas masaya kung 8) sa IELTS para sure hit ung required points hehe. Thanks ulet sa mga inputs nyo. Expect another post from me and some questions in the future. Naway lahat tau dito sa forum mareach ung FINISH LINE na VISA APPROVED!!!!. Good Luck and God Bless to ALL...... ;0)

ringo · November 2013

@ringo Thank you Sir. Follow up questions lang. Lage natalagang may minus na 2 years sa lahat ng mga skill assessment ng ACS ngaun? Almost 4 years din experience ko sa company A,B and C. Kung automatic na nag babawas sila ng mga ilang years, malamang Company D and E lang (o baka D only) ang ma kicredit and that's 2 to 3 years lang. Kung ganon, possible pa din bang makakuha ng points pag 2 to 3 years lang ang suitable na skills?

tama po si @buchock

renan1980 · November 2013

@rejai_11 , nag-email ako then tumawag din.. hindi na ako nagbayad.

@rams, pede po malaman kung paanong explanation ang sinabi nyo sa ACS at nabigyan kyo ng assessment as Bachelor Degree even under section 2 (I think PLM is under section 2 if I am not mistaken) and school nyo po. Thanks

renan1980 · November 2013

@squinx22 - yung officemate ko BS ComSci sa PUP then Bachelors Degree ang nakuha nya... i guessed, ganun din for BS CompEng kasi yung sa akin Bachelors Degree major in ICT din binigay at BS CompEng ako pero galing ako sa CCP (kapit-bahay lang tayo) at asa section 2 din ang school ko.

Hello,

Curious lang po ako about assessment. Tanung ko lng po kung meron po ba ditong graduate ng PUP computer engineering?
Based po sa experience nyo, nakakuha po ba kau ng bachelors degree o diploma lang? Nasa section 2 po kasi yung PUP sa list ng schools.

Kailangan ko kasi maka bachelors degree kasi yung experience ko ay 4 years palang.

Salamat po in advance!

@buchock, ibig nyo pong sabihin nde updated ung section list dito sa site so possible ang PUP at CCP ay under na ng section 1 how about po kaya sa AMA QC. section 2 din po sya. ano po kya dahilan at na-assess kyo as Bachelor? Cumm laude po ba kyo. Kasi mero po ata note nakapag mataas ang grade or cumm laude like eassess ka nila as Bachelor. Ano po sa tingin nyo?

buchock · November 2013

@renan1980 - hindi ko sure kung pano nila inaassess based sa section ng school kung section 1, 2 or 3 para maging suitable. Regarding sa updated list of sections ng school yan ang hindi ko matagpuan din kung asan hahaha..

pero para maging suitable, atleast yung mga subjects mo is ICT related dapat at the same time related sa ANZSCO code nagusto mong ipaassses and then nameet mo ang required number of experience. kapag yung tatlo nameet mo "Suitable" ka.

for your reference ito yung criteria.

https://www.acs.org.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0016/7324/Summary-of-Criteria-Oct-2013.pdf

gusto ko ring maging cum laude kaso may collection ako ng 3.0 sa TOR ko. hahaha
Factor na siguro kung cum laude ka, pero hindi lang yun ang basehan. kung ako galing sa ccp at naging Suitable sa ACS, how much more galing pa ng AMA

bast ba IT, ComSci or ComEng course mo or any IT related hehehe
Ano bang course mo?

@squinx22 - yung officemate ko BS ComSci sa PUP then Bachelors Degree ang nakuha nya... i guessed, ganun din for BS CompEng kasi yung sa akin Bachelors Degree major in ICT din binigay at BS CompEng ako pero galing ako sa CCP (kapit-bahay lang tayo) at asa section 2 din ang school ko.

Hello,

Curious lang po ako about assessment. Tanung ko lng po kung meron po ba ditong graduate ng PUP computer engineering?
Based po sa experience nyo, nakakuha po ba kau ng bachelors degree o diploma lang? Nasa section 2 po kasi yung PUP sa list ng schools.

Kailangan ko kasi maka bachelors degree kasi yung experience ko ay 4 years palang.

Salamat po in advance!

@buchock, ibig nyo pong sabihin nde updated ung section list dito sa site so possible ang PUP at CCP ay under na ng section 1 how about po kaya sa AMA QC. section 2 din po sya. ano po kya dahilan at na-assess kyo as Bachelor? Cumm laude po ba kyo. Kasi mero po ata note nakapag mataas ang grade or cumm laude like eassess ka nila as Bachelor. Ano po sa tingin nyo?

renan1980 · November 2013

@renan1980 - hindi ko sure kung pano nila inaassess based sa section ng school kung section 1, 2 or 3 para maging suitable. Regarding sa updated list of sections ng school yan ang hindi ko matagpuan din kung asan hahaha..

pero para maging suitable, atleast yung mga subjects mo is ICT related dapat at the same time related sa ANZSCO code nagusto mong ipaassses and then nameet mo ang required number of experience. kapag yung tatlo nameet mo "Suitable" ka.

for your reference ito yung criteria.
https://www.acs.org.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0016/7324/Summary-of-Criteria-Oct-2013.pdf

gusto ko ring maging cum laude kaso may collection ako ng 3.0 sa TOR ko. hahaha
Factor na siguro kung cum laude ka, pero hindi lang yun ang basehan. kung ako galing sa ccp at naging Suitable sa ACS, how much more galing pa ng AMA bast ba IT, ComSci or ComEng course mo or any IT related hehehe
Ano bang course mo?

@squinx22 - yung officemate ko BS ComSci sa PUP then Bachelors Degree ang nakuha nya... i guessed, ganun din for BS CompEng kasi yung sa akin Bachelors Degree major in ICT din binigay at BS CompEng ako pero galing ako sa CCP (kapit-bahay lang tayo) at asa section 2 din ang school ko.

Hello,

Curious lang po ako about assessment. Tanung ko lng po kung meron po ba ditong graduate ng PUP computer engineering?
Based po sa experience nyo, nakakuha po ba kau ng bachelors degree o diploma lang? Nasa section 2 po kasi yung PUP sa list ng schools.

Kailangan ko kasi maka bachelors degree kasi yung experience ko ay 4 years palang.

Salamat po in advance!

@buchock, ibig nyo pong sabihin nde updated ung section list dito sa site so possible ang PUP at CCP ay under na ng section 1 how about po kaya sa AMA QC. section 2 din po sya. ano po kya dahilan at na-assess kyo as Bachelor? Cumm laude po ba kyo. Kasi mero po ata note nakapag mataas ang grade or cumm laude like eassess ka nila as Bachelor. Ano po sa tingin nyo?

@buchock, Com Engineering graduate po ako sa AMA QC. Nagtataka lng po ako kung paano kyo na-assess as Suitable for Bachelor kung section 2 ang CCP at nde naman kyo cum laude. Interested din po ako sa sagot nyo sa ACS noong nag-appeal kyo sa kanila at baka pede ko sya gamitin. :-)

calai_88 · November 2013

@natnor sorry ngaun lang reply. mga 3 months inabot po ung application ko.

buchock · December 2013

@renan1980 - hindi naman assurance yung pagiging cum laude para maging suitable.
gaya nga ng sabi ko, may criteria ang ACS na sinusunod para malaman kung Suitable ka o hindi with regards sa education. sa Transcript of record mo, dun makikita nila kung Minor or Major ang ibibgay sayo depende sa curriculum nyo sa AMA.
Magiging Suitable ka kung mamimeet mo ang Education + Work Experience + ANZSCO code kung closely related sya. at makikita mo yan lahat sa Summary of Criteria.
Pero yung overall assessment process, si ACS lang nakakaalam hehehe

Hind rin ako nag-appeal sa ACS, after kong magsubmit naghintay ako ng 12weeks then lumabas na ang result at suitable sya.

Teka, nagsubmit kana ba ng assessment? pwede ka naman magtanong sa nagsend sayo ng result kung bakit ganun ang assessment sayo.

@renan1980 - hindi ko sure kung pano nila inaassess based sa section ng school kung section 1, 2 or 3 para maging suitable. Regarding sa updated list of sections ng school yan ang hindi ko matagpuan din kung asan hahaha..

pero para maging suitable, atleast yung mga subjects mo is ICT related dapat at the same time related sa ANZSCO code nagusto mong ipaassses and then nameet mo ang required number of experience. kapag yung tatlo nameet mo "Suitable" ka.

for your reference ito yung criteria.
https://www.acs.org.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0016/7324/Summary-of-Criteria-Oct-2013.pdf

gusto ko ring maging cum laude kaso may collection ako ng 3.0 sa TOR ko. hahaha
Factor na siguro kung cum laude ka, pero hindi lang yun ang basehan. kung ako galing sa ccp at naging Suitable sa ACS, how much more galing pa ng AMA bast ba IT, ComSci or ComEng course mo or any IT related hehehe
Ano bang course mo?

@squinx22 - yung officemate ko BS ComSci sa PUP then Bachelors Degree ang nakuha nya... i guessed, ganun din for BS CompEng kasi yung sa akin Bachelors Degree major in ICT din binigay at BS CompEng ako pero galing ako sa CCP (kapit-bahay lang tayo) at asa section 2 din ang school ko.

Hello,

Curious lang po ako about assessment. Tanung ko lng po kung meron po ba ditong graduate ng PUP computer engineering?
Based po sa experience nyo, nakakuha po ba kau ng bachelors degree o diploma lang? Nasa section 2 po kasi yung PUP sa list ng schools.

Kailangan ko kasi maka bachelors degree kasi yung experience ko ay 4 years palang.

Salamat po in advance!

@buchock, ibig nyo pong sabihin nde updated ung section list dito sa site so possible ang PUP at CCP ay under na ng section 1 how about po kaya sa AMA QC. section 2 din po sya. ano po kya dahilan at na-assess kyo as Bachelor? Cumm laude po ba kyo. Kasi mero po ata note nakapag mataas ang grade or cumm laude like eassess ka nila as Bachelor. Ano po sa tingin nyo?

@buchock, Com Engineering graduate po ako sa AMA QC. Nagtataka lng po ako kung paano kyo na-assess as Suitable for Bachelor kung section 2 ang CCP at nde naman kyo cum laude. Interested din po ako sa sagot nyo sa ACS noong nag-appeal kyo sa kanila at baka pede ko sya gamitin. :-)

kickerz · December 2013

wala po bang magiging problema kung magpasa ako sa acs ngayong december, i mean sa quota or kailangan ko na lang hintayin ang january 2014?

cchamyl · December 2013

wala po bang magiging problema kung magpasa ako sa acs ngayong december, i mean sa quota or kailangan ko na lang hintayin ang january 2014?

meron na quota ang ACS assessment ngayon? wow... andami nabago na rules...

buchock · December 2013

From ACS site for the News/Updates
https://www.acs.org.au/migration-skills-assessment/news-and-updates
News & Updates

Graduate Skills Assessment Application Process Changes

The ACS is choosing to implement the changes effective from January 15, 2014, (instead of October 28, 2013) which will provide certainty to those studying courses that are scheduled for completion in the final months of 2013.

The implementation of the ACS graduate application changes will ensure applicants are being assessed in line with the Migration Amendment (Skills Assessment) Regulation 2013 changes announced by the Department of Immigration and Border Protection to take effect on Oct 28, 2013.

The ACS is committed to providing a robust assessment service that accurately identifies an applicant’s ICT skills and their compatibility with the skills that the Australian Government has identified as being in shortage. To aid clarity and enhance consistency, the ACS has reviewed the current suitability criteria for applicants with an Australian study component in their skills assessment.

The following changes will come into effect on Jan 15, 2014:

• The ACS Temporary Graduate – 485 skills assessment will clearly state that it is specifically for the purpose of applying for a subclass 485 visa application. Applicants with an Australian study component that are applying for a subclass 485 visa will be assessed on the Australian qualification only, based on the completion of the relevant Australian Bachelor degree or higher.

• Applicants with an Australian study component that wish to apply for permanent residency will require either 1 year of relevant work experience or completion of an ACS Professional Year Program to receive a suitable skills assessment which can be used for general migration purposes.

• The ACS Post Australian Study Skills Assessment is intended to support graduates in applying for permanent residency under the General Skilled Migration or Employer Nomination Scheme after completing an Australian study component.

• The Australian study component is taken into consideration because of the value of studying in Australia and the exposure to Australian culture and language, which in turn places applicants in a better position to be employed in their nominated occupation.

• The work experience or professional year program is assessed for suitability of the full skills assessment and the applicant is considered skilled from the completion date of the relevant Australian degree. The Post Australian Study Skills Assessment can be used for migration purposes in general.

Skill Level Requirement Met Date
Summary of Criteria

The ACS suitability criteria will determine the “Skill Level Requirement Met Date” which will be noted on your ACS result letter.

All relevant work experience completed after the “Skill Level Requirement Met Date” will be considered “Skilled Employment” and eligible for points under the skilled migration points test.

The work experience required to meet the suitability criteria is NOT included as “Skilled Employment” and is NOT eligible for points under the skilled migration points test.

Example:
You complete a Bachelor in Jan 2008 and you have 4 years of work experience from Jan 2008 until Jan 2012.
2 years of work experience will be used to satisfy the suitability criteria and your Skill Level Requirement Met Date will be Jan 2010.
All suitable work experience completed after Jan 2010 will be considered “Skilled Employment” and eligible for the skilled migration points test.
The 2 years of work experience used to satisfy the suitability criteria is NOT eligible for the skilled migration points test.
Please Note: While the ACS is authorised to assess ICT skills assessments, the final decision in awarding points remains with the Department of Immigration and Border Protection.

End of Year Closure 2013

The ACS office will close from Dec 23, 2013 and re-open on Jan 13, 2014.

Phone and email enquiries will be not be available during this time. Please refer to the skills assessment documentation for information.

All skills assessment not completed before Dec 20, 2013 will be finalized after Jan 13, 2013.

Due to a high number of applications at this time, we cannot guarantee any application time frames.

soma · December 2013

Questions po sa mga successfully pumasa sa accediation ng ACS, who had to submit a Statutory Declaration, in the absence of an official COE:

- May nabasa po kasi ako na ang Statutory Declaration is used in commonwealth countries (such as AU and Canada), and if you are in a country outside of AU, then you will have to use the type of statement that you make under oath in your home country.

1. Since what we have in the Philippines is the "affidavit" (difference is that this is "sworn"),
is this the document that you submitted along with your other requirements to ACS?

2. Does the notary public who will bear witness to and certify your statement have to be duly accredited by the Australian authorities?

3. Saan po kayo nagpa-notarize?

4. Baka may sample kayo diyan. Kahit template lang, or black out the confidential details.

I would gladly appreciate any help.

Thanks!

zoe_girl · December 2013

the suspense is killing me! :P
It has been almost 2 months, wala pang result. hayz...

buchock · December 2013

@zoe_girl - patience lang... sa dami ng nagpapaassess sa ACS, pinakamabilis na lalabas ang result mo e 12weeks

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the suspense is killing me! :P
It has been almost 2 months, wala pang result. hayz...

Abraham · December 2013

Gano ka importante ung word na "fulltime" sa COE? May COE kase ako na hindi nakalagay ung fulltime eh. May format daw talaga ung company n hindi daw pwede baguhin. Anyone here who got positive assesment even the word "fulltime" is not indicated in COE?

Abraham · December 2013

Follow up question nrin. San maganda mag p notario? Within quezon city lang sana. Sa mga nakakuha n ng suitable results, san and magkano per document? Thanks...

rooroo · December 2013

Gano ka importante ung word na "fulltime" sa COE? May COE kase ako na hindi nakalagay ung fulltime eh. May format daw talaga ung company n hindi daw pwede baguhin. Anyone here who got positive assesment even the word "fulltime" is not indicated in COE?

it's a must. kelangan stated sa COE mo if you are working "full-time" or "part-time".

You can refer at this document (section 8 - Employment): http://www.acs.org.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0020/7319/Skills-Assessment-Guidelines-for-Applicants.pdf

paotel · December 2013

Question lang regarding certification of copies. Tama po ba ito ang gagawin:

1. Stamp each page with "Validated against original" or similar stamp.
2. Notarize each page

Tama po ba?

lexxus · December 2013

Hi newbie po and I am thinking po to be assessed , I just want to ask po if anyone knows someone na Engineering grad like me ECE but all my experience is with programming na naging successful naman going to australia? Cautious lang po kasi dahil Engr grad then 9 years na Sr. Software engr, though meron din naman programming subjects in college. Any thoughts? Thanks!

stage2 · December 2013

Question lang po sa mga nabigyan n ng results: Gano katagal un application nyo sa "Stage 4 - In Progress"?

ringo · December 2013

Question lang regarding certification of copies. Tama po ba ito ang gagawin:

1. Stamp each page with "Validated against original" or similar stamp.
2. Notarize each page

Tama po ba?

Alam ko po dapat may certified true copies of the original each page.

ringo · December 2013

Question lang po sa mga nabigyan n ng results: Gano katagal un application nyo sa "Stage 4 - In Progress"?

sakin po lumabas na yung results naka stage 4 parin sa website ng ACS.

paotel · December 2013

@ringo then notaryo on each page din?

paano niyo po ginawa yung sa inyo?

ringo · December 2013

@paotel - kung ang ibig nyo pong sabihin sa notaryo is yung seal... hindi na po.
Stamp lang na nakalagay "Certified true copy/copies of the original" each page.

stage2 · December 2013

@ringo: Thanks, un sa akin kc 12/4 nagbago s site sabi "In Progress", mag 1 week n un bukas wala pa dn... 14weeks na ako nagwawait...

Abraham · December 2013

@rooroo

Gano ka importante ung word na "fulltime" sa COE? May COE kase ako na hindi nakalagay ung fulltime eh. May format daw talaga ung company n hindi daw pwede baguhin. Anyone here who got positive assesment even the word "fulltime" is not indicated in COE?
it's a must. kelangan stated sa COE mo if you are working "full-time" or "part-time".

You can refer at this document (section 8 - Employment): http://www.acs.org.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0020/7319/Skills-Assessment-Guidelines-for-Applicants.pdf

This is my dilemma right now. I even requested to include the word “FULL TIME” in all my COE’s request before. But there are still companies who did not include it on my request. Yung iba pumayag nung nakiusap ako sa HR managers (buti nga at mabait) pero meron talaga na hindi raw pwede iedit yung COE.

May nag post dito sa forum date (not sure what particular topic) na suitable assessment nya even the work FULL TIME is not included (hindi ko na makita yung user na un eh). I think kailangan mag submit ng mga additional docs showing that you are indeed a fulltime employee?

Any thought? Is there someone here who experience the same scenario but still got suitable assessments? Hinahabol ko talaga na makapag pasa ako ngaung Dec para hindi na maabutan ng another changes and may long holiday break din kase ang ACS.

Thank you in advance sa mga feedback nyo. God Bless….

ringo · December 2013

@Abraham - yung nabanggit ko na dalawang company ko hindi sila nag bibigay ng format na gusto ko. May standard format lang silang COE. Kaya may additional docs ako na format ng ACS.