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  • MsJeanMsJean Philippines
    Posts: 14Member
    Joined: Jul 20, 2018

    Hi everyone,

    Meron po ba sa inyong currently taking Diploma of Nursing sa NSW area?

    Would like to know po kung mayroon dito na mga nagshift course/career from Accounting/Business course na tinapos sa Pinas then Nursing ang kinuha pagdating sa Australia.

    Thank you in advance po sa mga sasagot.

  • MsJeanMsJean Philippines
    Posts: 14Member
    Joined: Jul 20, 2018

    Ako po ksi ay tapos ng BS Accounting Technology and currently working as a government employee. Isa din pong retail pharmacy business owner with the TESDA NCIII in Pharmacy Services.
    Along with others ay pagpi-PR din ang main goal kaya gusto ko mag Australia and ang choices ko po sa VET courses (since hndi ko po afford na mag Bachelor/Masters) ay ung related sa Commercial Cookery, Pharmacy at Nursing. Sa tingin nyo po ba ay Pharmacy certificate courses ang pinaka-aligned para sa akin which is also my top choice hehe...

  • atheleneathelene Brisbane
    Posts: 766Member
    Joined: Mar 13, 2018
    edited December 2022

    @MsJean said:
    Hi everyone,

    Meron po ba sa inyong currently taking Diploma of Nursing sa NSW area?

    Would like to know po kung mayroon dito na mga nagshift course/career from Accounting/Business course na tinapos sa Pinas then Nursing ang kinuha pagdating sa Australia.

    Thank you in advance po sa mga sasagot.

    I'm not a nurse, but generally pwede naman magchange careers pag pupunta sa Australia para mag-aral. You just really need to justify your choice in your GTE.

    BTW, studying a Diploma of Nursing doesn't qualify you to be a registered nurse (RN) in Australia; your career trajectory would be that of an Enrolled Nurse (EN), who work under RNs. If you are looking to be an RN, you need to study a Bachelor's degree in Nursing. I don't know whether becoming an EN will lead to you getting PR, it's up to you to look into it yourself or hire a migration agent for advise.

    232111 (Architect) | Current points: 65

    30-01-2018 Applied for student visa (MArchSci), offshore application.
    11-08-2020 Applied for student visa (PhD), onshore application.
    28-02-2022 Submitted application to AACA for skills assessment (OQA Stage 1)
    27-05-2022 Received skills assessment outcome (Suitable/Positive)
    Next steps: PTE exam

  • gzabalagzabala Dubai, UAE
    Posts: 153Member
    Joined: Jul 19, 2019

    hello sa lahat,

    happy new year.
    inquiring for my sister. meron na ba dito na grant ng Student visa ang course is Leadership and Management and dito po sa Sydney area ang school?

    TIA sa sasagot

  • PR_AUPR_AU Posts: 17Member
    Joined: Sep 03, 2022

    Hi! Good morning. Is TKL in Paramatta a good school po?
    I’m planning to take Graduate Diploma of Management (Learning).
    Also, will I be eligible to apply for Graduate Visa then work my way to apply for PR?
    Hope to get your inputs. Thaank you

  • atheleneathelene Brisbane
    Posts: 766Member
    Joined: Mar 13, 2018

    @PR_AU said:
    Hi! Good morning. Is TKL in Paramatta a good school po?
    I’m planning to take Graduate Diploma of Management (Learning).
    Also, will I be eligible to apply for Graduate Visa then work my way to apply for PR?
    Hope to get your inputs. Thaank you

    Not all student visa holders are eligible for 485 visa. Please do your due diligence and look into your potential PR pathway before enrolling in any program. It might be better to pursue a program related to your degree in the PH instead of cheap programs in management/business/leadership (diploma level). Usually walang pathway yun into 485 visa or PR.

    Under the Graduate Work stream, you need to have a qualification relevant to the occupation on the skilled shortage list. Under the Post-Study Work stream, you need to have completed at least a Bachelor's degree in Australia.

    https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/getting-a-visa/visa-listing/temporary-graduate-485

    PR_AUcaspersushi24

    232111 (Architect) | Current points: 65

    30-01-2018 Applied for student visa (MArchSci), offshore application.
    11-08-2020 Applied for student visa (PhD), onshore application.
    28-02-2022 Submitted application to AACA for skills assessment (OQA Stage 1)
    27-05-2022 Received skills assessment outcome (Suitable/Positive)
    Next steps: PTE exam

  • PR_AUPR_AU Posts: 17Member
    Joined: Sep 03, 2022

    @athelene said:

    @PR_AU said:
    Hi! Good morning. Is TKL in Paramatta a good school po?
    I’m planning to take Graduate Diploma of Management (Learning).
    Also, will I be eligible to apply for Graduate Visa then work my way to apply for PR?
    Hope to get your inputs. Thaank you

    Not all student visa holders are eligible for 485 visa. Please do your due diligence and look into your potential PR pathway before enrolling in any program. It might be better to pursue a program related to your degree in the PH instead of cheap programs in management/business/leadership (diploma level). Usually walang pathway yun into 485 visa or PR.

    Under the Graduate Work stream, you need to have a qualification relevant to the occupation on the skilled shortage list. Under the Post-Study Work stream, you need to have completed at least a Bachelor's degree in Australia.

    https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/getting-a-visa/visa-listing/temporary-graduate-485

    I am a BSBA Marketing graduate with work experience in the banking industry (Marketing/Product/Events-related).

    I already kept in touch with some agencies as I want to study, work, and live in Australia. So far the options I got are:
    1. Masters in Business Administration
    2. Masters in Business Analytics

    I am hoping to find cheaper options po sana but if none hope to hear your inputs as to which path I can take that has PR-route. I am looking for a school near Blacktown NSW. Please let me know if you have recos. Thank you! :)

  • atheleneathelene Brisbane
    Posts: 766Member
    Joined: Mar 13, 2018

    @PR_AU said:
    I am a BSBA Marketing graduate with work experience in the banking industry (Marketing/Product/Events-related).

    I already kept in touch with some agencies as I want to study, work, and live in Australia. So far the options I got are:
    1. Masters in Business Administration
    2. Masters in Business Analytics

    I am hoping to find cheaper options po sana but if none hope to hear your inputs as to which path I can take that has PR-route. I am looking for a school near Blacktown NSW. Please let me know if you have recos. Thank you! :)

    Instead of limiting yourself to schools near where you'll be staying (as most schools/uni are actually in CBD area), focus on what you are planning to nominate as your skilled occupation. MBA is usually highly regarded, but it doesn't really have a PR pathway. I'm not sure with Business Analytics if it's more on the business or the IT side, but if it leads more into ICT, you can potentially nominate ICT Business Analyst down the line if that degree will lead to that kind of job.

    Are you nominating Marketing Specialist or Finance Manager? Those are on the STSOL only, so you'd be limited to applying for 190 or 491 state-sponsored visa, whereas Accountant or Management Consultant roles are on the MLTSSL.

    To have a better chance of migrating, you need to be strategic in that your occupation is (ideally) in the Medium to Long Term Skilled Shortage List. Research which occupations are aligned with your current experience (as you can claim points on it if you have more than 3 years of claimable work exp), and where you can study a program that would be beneficial to that nominated occupation. Studying in Australia will not guarantee you a PR visa, so you need to really consider what makes the most sense in terms of your career trajectory.

    jinigirlPR_AUcaspersushi24

    232111 (Architect) | Current points: 65

    30-01-2018 Applied for student visa (MArchSci), offshore application.
    11-08-2020 Applied for student visa (PhD), onshore application.
    28-02-2022 Submitted application to AACA for skills assessment (OQA Stage 1)
    27-05-2022 Received skills assessment outcome (Suitable/Positive)
    Next steps: PTE exam

  • PR_AUPR_AU Posts: 17Member
    Joined: Sep 03, 2022

    @athelene said:

    @PR_AU said:
    I am a BSBA Marketing graduate with work experience in the banking industry (Marketing/Product/Events-related).

    I already kept in touch with some agencies as I want to study, work, and live in Australia. So far the options I got are:
    1. Masters in Business Administration
    2. Masters in Business Analytics

    I am hoping to find cheaper options po sana but if none hope to hear your inputs as to which path I can take that has PR-route. I am looking for a school near Blacktown NSW. Please let me know if you have recos. Thank you! :)

    Instead of limiting yourself to schools near where you'll be staying (as most schools/uni are actually in CBD area), focus on what you are planning to nominate as your skilled occupation. MBA is usually highly regarded, but it doesn't really have a PR pathway. I'm not sure with Business Analytics if it's more on the business or the IT side, but if it leads more into ICT, you can potentially nominate ICT Business Analyst down the line if that degree will lead to that kind of job.

    Are you nominating Marketing Specialist or Finance Manager? Those are on the STSOL only, so you'd be limited to applying for 190 or 491 state-sponsored visa, whereas Accountant or Management Consultant roles are on the MLTSSL.

    To have a better chance of migrating, you need to be strategic in that your occupation is (ideally) in the Medium to Long Term Skilled Shortage List. Research which occupations are aligned with your current experience (as you can claim points on it if you have more than 3 years of claimable work exp), and where you can study a program that would be beneficial to that nominated occupation. Studying in Australia will not guarantee you a PR visa, so you need to really consider what makes the most sense in terms of your career trajectory.

    @athelene said:

    @PR_AU said:
    I am a BSBA Marketing graduate with work experience in the banking industry (Marketing/Product/Events-related).

    I already kept in touch with some agencies as I want to study, work, and live in Australia. So far the options I got are:
    1. Masters in Business Administration
    2. Masters in Business Analytics

    I am hoping to find cheaper options po sana but if none hope to hear your inputs as to which path I can take that has PR-route. I am looking for a school near Blacktown NSW. Please let me know if you have recos. Thank you! :)

    Instead of limiting yourself to schools near where you'll be staying (as most schools/uni are actually in CBD area), focus on what you are planning to nominate as your skilled occupation. MBA is usually highly regarded, but it doesn't really have a PR pathway. I'm not sure with Business Analytics if it's more on the business or the IT side, but if it leads more into ICT, you can potentially nominate ICT Business Analyst down the line if that degree will lead to that kind of job.

    Are you nominating Marketing Specialist or Finance Manager? Those are on the STSOL only, so you'd be limited to applying for 190 or 491 state-sponsored visa, whereas Accountant or Management Consultant roles are on the MLTSSL.

    To have a better chance of migrating, you need to be strategic in that your occupation is (ideally) in the Medium to Long Term Skilled Shortage List. Research which occupations are aligned with your current experience (as you can claim points on it if you have more than 3 years of claimable work exp), and where you can study a program that would be beneficial to that nominated occupation. Studying in Australia will not guarantee you a PR visa, so you need to really consider what makes the most sense in terms of your career trajectory.

    Thank you very much for your inputs. Much appreciated. :)

  • MLBSMLBS Manila
    Posts: 972Member
    Joined: Sep 11, 2016

    @PR_AU said:

    @athelene said:

    @PR_AU said:
    Hi! Good morning. Is TKL in Paramatta a good school po?
    I’m planning to take Graduate Diploma of Management (Learning).
    Also, will I be eligible to apply for Graduate Visa then work my way to apply for PR?
    Hope to get your inputs. Thaank you

    Not all student visa holders are eligible for 485 visa. Please do your due diligence and look into your potential PR pathway before enrolling in any program. It might be better to pursue a program related to your degree in the PH instead of cheap programs in management/business/leadership (diploma level). Usually walang pathway yun into 485 visa or PR.

    Under the Graduate Work stream, you need to have a qualification relevant to the occupation on the skilled shortage list. Under the Post-Study Work stream, you need to have completed at least a Bachelor's degree in Australia.

    https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/getting-a-visa/visa-listing/temporary-graduate-485

    I am a BSBA Marketing graduate with work experience in the banking industry (Marketing/Product/Events-related).

    I already kept in touch with some agencies as I want to study, work, and live in Australia. So far the options I got are:
    1. Masters in Business Administration
    2. Masters in Business Analytics

    I am hoping to find cheaper options po sana but if none hope to hear your inputs as to which path I can take that has PR-route. I am looking for a school near Blacktown NSW. Please let me know if you have recos. Thank you! :)

    Agencies that work on student visas are usually unaware on how the PR process works. Seen a lot of people here get sweet talked by agencies only to end up going home after their study. They mostly care on getting you to AUS for the comission on your tuition, pero wala na sila gagawin after nyan. I personally know people na student visa pa rin 4 years+ na, so I recommend that you look into the PR process and how it works. Wag ka lang maniwala sa sinabi ng agent.

    PR_AUHeprexcaspersushi24

    233411 Electronics Engineer (Age-30, Educ-15,English proficiency-20, NAATI - 5, Single, - 10 Relative sponsorship - 15)
    95 pts total


    2017


    June 3, 2017 = Graduated from College
    July 8, 2017 = Took IELTS GT
    July 21, 2017 = received IELTS results (LRWS = 8/9/7.5/7)
    August 11, 2017 = Lodged EA assessment (Fast track)
    September 6, 2017 = Received positive EA assessment, lodged EOI (489 Family sponsored - 60 pts)
    September 21, 2017 = Took PTE exam
    September 22, 2017 = Received PTE results (LRSW- 90/90/90/90), lodged 189 EOI (60 pts), updated 489 FS EOI (70 pts)
    September 26, 2017 = Lodged 190 EOI (NSW) 65 pts


    2018


    1 year wait... still no EOI invite. Decided to pursue student visa instead

    Course: Cert IV and Diploma - Work Health and Safety (DNA Kingston)

    October 15, 2018 = offer letter from school
    November 8, 2018 = Medical exam (St. Lukes)
    November 20, 2018 = Paid for tuition
    Novemeber 28, 2018 = Received COE
    December 2, 2018 = Lodged visa, after 1 min, granted!


    2019


    Feb 4 2019 = arrived to Perth


    2020


    Jan 2020 = Age increased to 30 pts
    Jan 20 2020 = Took NAATI
    Jan 26 2020 = Results for NAATI (passed) +5 pts
    Jan 27 2020 = lodged EOI 491 Family
    Feb 10 2020 = invited finally!
    Oct 8 2020 = 491 granted


    2023


    Oct 8 2023 = 191 Lodged
    Oct 30 2023 = 191 granted

  • atheleneathelene Brisbane
    Posts: 766Member
    Joined: Mar 13, 2018
    edited January 2023

    @MLBS said:
    Agencies that work on student visas are usually unaware on how the PR process works. Seen a lot of people here get sweet talked by agencies only to end up going home after their study. They mostly care on getting you to AUS for the comission on your tuition, pero wala na sila gagawin after nyan. I personally know people na student visa pa rin 4 years+ na, so I recommend that you look into the PR process and how it works. Wag ka lang maniwala sa sinabi ng agent.

    This is true. Two of my acquaintances were able to get to Australia on student visa, studying programs in Leadership and Management or Management (Learning), only to discover that there's no PR pathway for them. One of those acquaintances just shifted to culinary after one term, but that one term's fees essentially went down the drain kasi walang maitutulong yung Management program na yun for PR. The other acquaintance I haven't spoken to in a while, but he's still onshore and I'm assuming he's still figuring out his PR pathway with his migration agent.

    PR_AUHeprex

    232111 (Architect) | Current points: 65

    30-01-2018 Applied for student visa (MArchSci), offshore application.
    11-08-2020 Applied for student visa (PhD), onshore application.
    28-02-2022 Submitted application to AACA for skills assessment (OQA Stage 1)
    27-05-2022 Received skills assessment outcome (Suitable/Positive)
    Next steps: PTE exam

  • magueromaguero Adelaide
    Posts: 831Member
    Joined: Oct 24, 2016

    @athelene said:

    @PR_AU said:

    Instead of limiting yourself to schools near where you'll be staying (as most schools/uni are actually in CBD area), focus on what you are planning to nominate as your skilled occupation. MBA is usually highly regarded, but it doesn't really have a PR pathway. I'm not sure with Business Analytics if it's more on the business or the IT side, but if it leads more into ICT, you can potentially nominate ICT Business Analyst down the line if that degree will lead to that kind of job.

    Are you nominating Marketing Specialist or Finance Manager? Those are on the STSOL only, so you'd be limited to applying for 190 or 491 state-sponsored visa, whereas Accountant or Management Consultant roles are on the MLTSSL.

    To have a better chance of migrating, you need to be strategic in that your occupation is (ideally) in the Medium to Long Term Skilled Shortage List. Research which occupations are aligned with your current experience (as you can claim points on it if you have more than 3 years of claimable work exp), and where you can study a program that would be beneficial to that nominated occupation. Studying in Australia will not guarantee you a PR visa, so you need to really consider what makes the most sense in terms of your career trajectory.

    I agree with this.

    My 2 cents.

    Tignan muna kung anong level yung school where you got your Bachelor's degree. If it's a level 1 school, then I think it would be a better use of your time and money to focus on getting invited for a skilled immigrant visa (189, 190, 491). Business-related occupations tend to require that your Bachelor's degree from the PH be equivalent to an AQF Bachelor's degree, kaya kailangan level 1 school. There is no alternative because wala naman licensure ang mga jobs na ito. I think there is no point in studying here if you already meet the educational requirement for your nominated occupation. Tapos yung related work experience mo will be considered in your skills assessment because you likely earned these experiences after graduation, so added points pa. Kesa gumastos sa MBA dito and mag-aral for 2 years + magtrabaho in your nominated occupation for 1 year just to get a positive skills assessment, you can use that time to add to your work experience and to earn money to pay for all the things needed for an EOI and for your permanent move here. Isa pa, kahit mag-aral dito ng MBA wala naman guarantee you will get a job related to your nominated occupation so di pa rin makakakuha ng positive skills assessment.

    Also note, yung Management Consultant na occupation puro mga nagtrabaho sa big 4 consulting firms ang mga alam kong nakakakuha ng positive skills assessment. A lot of people get a negative assessment for this because they don't fulfill the requirement to work as a business consultant for clients. I really don't suggest you aim for this occupation right after getting an MBA because there is no guarantee that you will get a job with a big consulting firm as a consultant, and if you don't then you won't get a positive skills assessment. Masyadong risky.

    Now, if the school you graduated from in the PH is not classified as a level 1 school tignan mo pa rin yung skilled occupation list to see if there is an occupation that doesn't require the equivalent of an AQF Bachelor's degree na medyo malapit sa current work experience mo. If meron, then aim to get a positive skills assessment for that so can try to get a skilled immigrant visa. Ngayon kung wala talagang pwede na occupation, that is the only time I would suggest that you look at studying here. Pero kung mag-aaral ka dito, study a course na may clear path to a skilled immigrant visa (189, 190, 491). An MBA or any other business management course does not have a pathway to PR. Once you have a skilled immigrant visa, it actually doesn't matter what job you get here. Kung gusto mong bumalik sa marketing then you can apply for marketing jobs here even if that isn't related to the course you studied here.

    Right now I think the priority should be to identify a very clear path to PR. Para sa akin, the question shouldn't be paano ba makakapunta dito sa lalong madaling panahon, which is what educational agents always seem to push. They always seem to say that a student visa is the fastest way to get here. The question should be paano makakatira dito permanently?

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  • atheleneathelene Brisbane
    Posts: 766Member
    Joined: Mar 13, 2018
    edited January 2023

    As @maguero said, hindi guarantee ang makakuha ng consulting job straight out of MBA.

    Entry-level analyst roles are quite competitive (as in tinitingnan ang grades mo, yung work experience, and extracurricular activities), and issue din ang lack of PR status when it comes to applying for consulting roles (as consultants are usually required to travel for cases). I've asked a recruiter from one of the Big 3 firm (MBB--McKinsey, Bain, and BCG) years ago about the likelihood of them hiring international students for internships or graduate roles, and they said the preference was really for AU PR and citizens. :( Not sure if that has changed recently.

    232111 (Architect) | Current points: 65

    30-01-2018 Applied for student visa (MArchSci), offshore application.
    11-08-2020 Applied for student visa (PhD), onshore application.
    28-02-2022 Submitted application to AACA for skills assessment (OQA Stage 1)
    27-05-2022 Received skills assessment outcome (Suitable/Positive)
    Next steps: PTE exam

  • RheaMARN1171933RheaMARN1171933 Posts: 2,760Member, Administrator, Moderator
    Joined: Mar 10, 2016

    @MLBS said:

    @PR_AU said:

    @athelene said:

    @PR_AU said:
    Hi! Good morning. Is TKL in Paramatta a good school po?
    I’m planning to take Graduate Diploma of Management (Learning).
    Also, will I be eligible to apply for Graduate Visa then work my way to apply for PR?
    Hope to get your inputs. Thaank you

    Not all student visa holders are eligible for 485 visa. Please do your due diligence and look into your potential PR pathway before enrolling in any program. It might be better to pursue a program related to your degree in the PH instead of cheap programs in management/business/leadership (diploma level). Usually walang pathway yun into 485 visa or PR.

    Under the Graduate Work stream, you need to have a qualification relevant to the occupation on the skilled shortage list. Under the Post-Study Work stream, you need to have completed at least a Bachelor's degree in Australia.

    https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/getting-a-visa/visa-listing/temporary-graduate-485

    I am a BSBA Marketing graduate with work experience in the banking industry (Marketing/Product/Events-related).

    I already kept in touch with some agencies as I want to study, work, and live in Australia. So far the options I got are:
    1. Masters in Business Administration
    2. Masters in Business Analytics

    I am hoping to find cheaper options po sana but if none hope to hear your inputs as to which path I can take that has PR-route. I am looking for a school near Blacktown NSW. Please let me know if you have recos. Thank you! :)

    Agencies that work on student visas are usually unaware on how the PR process works. Seen a lot of people here get sweet talked by agencies only to end up going home after their study. They mostly care on getting you to AUS for the comission on your tuition, pero wala na sila gagawin after nyan. I personally know people na student visa pa rin 4 years+ na, so I recommend that you look into the PR process and how it works. Wag ka lang maniwala sa sinabi ng agent.

    Yes, be very careful of being sold the Australian dream. Yes, it’s definitely faster to get to Australia but doesn’t mean you’ll get your PR. GSM visa pathway is still the fastest way to get PR. I understand some are in a situation like what I had many moons ago where the current occupation is not on the occupation list. Hence, if one is to take the student pathway, it will be at your own risk. One thing to bear in mind when applying for a student visa, on the application form, you will have to convince the case officer that your intention is to study and that you will go back to your country after.

  • RheaMARN1171933RheaMARN1171933 Posts: 2,760Member, Administrator, Moderator
    Joined: Mar 10, 2016

    @maguero said:

    @athelene said:

    @PR_AU said:

    Instead of limiting yourself to schools near where you'll be staying (as most schools/uni are actually in CBD area), focus on what you are planning to nominate as your skilled occupation. MBA is usually highly regarded, but it doesn't really have a PR pathway. I'm not sure with Business Analytics if it's more on the business or the IT side, but if it leads more into ICT, you can potentially nominate ICT Business Analyst down the line if that degree will lead to that kind of job.

    Are you nominating Marketing Specialist or Finance Manager? Those are on the STSOL only, so you'd be limited to applying for 190 or 491 state-sponsored visa, whereas Accountant or Management Consultant roles are on the MLTSSL.

    To have a better chance of migrating, you need to be strategic in that your occupation is (ideally) in the Medium to Long Term Skilled Shortage List. Research which occupations are aligned with your current experience (as you can claim points on it if you have more than 3 years of claimable work exp), and where you can study a program that would be beneficial to that nominated occupation. Studying in Australia will not guarantee you a PR visa, so you need to really consider what makes the most sense in terms of your career trajectory.

    I agree with this.

    My 2 cents.

    Tignan muna kung anong level yung school where you got your Bachelor's degree. If it's a level 1 school, then I think it would be a better use of your time and money to focus on getting invited for a skilled immigrant visa (189, 190, 491). Business-related occupations tend to require that your Bachelor's degree from the PH be equivalent to an AQF Bachelor's degree, kaya kailangan level 1 school. There is no alternative because wala naman licensure ang mga jobs na ito. I think there is no point in studying here if you already meet the educational requirement for your nominated occupation. Tapos yung related work experience mo will be considered in your skills assessment because you likely earned these experiences after graduation, so added points pa. Kesa gumastos sa MBA dito and mag-aral for 2 years + magtrabaho in your nominated occupation for 1 year just to get a positive skills assessment, you can use that time to add to your work experience and to earn money to pay for all the things needed for an EOI and for your permanent move here. Isa pa, kahit mag-aral dito ng MBA wala naman guarantee you will get a job related to your nominated occupation so di pa rin makakakuha ng positive skills assessment.

    Also note, yung Management Consultant na occupation puro mga nagtrabaho sa big 4 consulting firms ang mga alam kong nakakakuha ng positive skills assessment. A lot of people get a negative assessment for this because they don't fulfill the requirement to work as a business consultant for clients. I really don't suggest you aim for this occupation right after getting an MBA because there is no guarantee that you will get a job with a big consulting firm as a consultant, and if you don't then you won't get a positive skills assessment. Masyadong risky.

    Now, if the school you graduated from in the PH is not classified as a level 1 school tignan mo pa rin yung skilled occupation list to see if there is an occupation that doesn't require the equivalent of an AQF Bachelor's degree na medyo malapit sa current work experience mo. If meron, then aim to get a positive skills assessment for that so can try to get a skilled immigrant visa. Ngayon kung wala talagang pwede na occupation, that is the only time I would suggest that you look at studying here. Pero kung mag-aaral ka dito, study a course na may clear path to a skilled immigrant visa (189, 190, 491). An MBA or any other business management course does not have a pathway to PR. Once you have a skilled immigrant visa, it actually doesn't matter what job you get here. Kung gusto mong bumalik sa marketing then you can apply for marketing jobs here even if that isn't related to the course you studied here.

    Right now I think the priority should be to identify a very clear path to PR. Para sa akin, the question shouldn't be paano ba makakapunta dito sa lalong madaling panahon, which is what educational agents always seem to push. They always seem to say that a student visa is the fastest way to get here. The question should be paano makakatira dito permanently?

    I agree. I migrated to Australia many years ago via student pathway. I’ve been a migration agent for over 10 years. I could work with institutions in Australia if I want to earn more money the easiest way…but no. If people come to me with the intention to study in Australia as a pr pathway, I turn them down as I don’t see it as the best pathway to get there. Although I’ve had a few cases where we have used study in Australia as a strategy to stay in Australia whilst they’re on EOI stage and just waiting to get an invite - but still I’m very careful of such and will need to make the client aware of the potential risks. Also, they have to be able to afford the cost of living there as work rights as a student visa won’t be enough to cover living costs. I’m more open on this approach if the client is single and no obligations yet in life.

    One thing as well, be realistic with expectations once in Australia in working visa. Expect to end up doing odd jobs. It will be very very very difficult to get a job related to your experience in manila. No employer will consider hiring an applicant on a student visa due to work rights limitation so you’ll end up working as in restaurants, groceries, receptionist. Back then I was lucky enough to get a job in Citibank collections as I used to work in Citibank in manila and worked with Australian colleagues who referred me to collections department in sydney…but still I could only work max 20 hours a week so it wasn’t enough at all. My parents still had to send me money dahil kulang pa! One good thing that came out from my journey was the whole experience humbled me and led me to ensure I will do my best to guide aspiring migrants as honest as possible - no sugar coating at all when they enquire about my services.

    atheleneMau766PR_AUfordpskkkrrrtttCantThinkAnyUserName
  • kistin15kistin15 PH
    Posts: 2Member
    Joined: Feb 20, 2023

    hi! any recommended school na cheap (di mahal, affordable lang) BUT OK (good quality) that is offering the course Primary or Secondary Education? self-finance po here kaya looking for cheap-but-ok schools

  • dashboard89dashboard89 Australia
    Posts: 5Member
    Joined: Mar 21, 2018

    @kistin15 said:
    hi! any recommended school na cheap (di mahal, affordable lang) BUT OK (good quality) that is offering the course Primary or Secondary Education? self-finance po here kaya looking for cheap-but-ok schools

    Unfortunately, hindi "cheap" ang colleges or unis offering teaching degrees.

    You can check this for NSW:
    https://educationstandards.nsw.edu.au/wps/portal/nesa/teacher-accreditation/teaching-qualifications/accredited-degrees

    The schools have to be accredited, so usually the larger schools lang ang meron. Tuition fees range around $20k-30k per year (included na scholarships dyan)

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  • connectedorgconnectedorg Posts: 2Member
    Joined: Jul 28, 2023

    Anyone who is planning for student visa next year, 2023, or 2024 ,Australia,we can help in processing the visa, offer letter and other formalities. just contact us and make your procedure hassle free

    Thank you!

  • rhyspalmarhyspalma Posts: 2Member
    Joined: Aug 23, 2021

    Hi po, just want to ask po what is indicative fee sa tuition. Been searching google but I cant seem to understand ano po ba talaga ibig sabihin. Example po sa attached image, yung first yr indicative fee is 38,650. Is this for the first year na fee po? how about yung 19,180? Salamat po sa pag explain.

  • atheleneathelene Brisbane
    Posts: 766Member
    Joined: Mar 13, 2018

    @rhyspalma said:
    Hi po, just want to ask po what is indicative fee sa tuition. Been searching google but I cant seem to understand ano po ba talaga ibig sabihin. Example po sa attached image, yung first yr indicative fee is 38,650. Is this for the first year na fee po? how about yung 19,180? Salamat po sa pag explain.

    Indicative fee basically means approximate fee per year. Yung 19k that's for one sem tuition only.

    232111 (Architect) | Current points: 65

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  • casssiecasssie ✨🦘✨
    Posts: 668Member
    Joined: Nov 15, 2022

    @athelene said:

    @rhyspalma said:
    Hi po, just want to ask po what is indicative fee sa tuition. Been searching google but I cant seem to understand ano po ba talaga ibig sabihin. Example po sa attached image, yung first yr indicative fee is 38,650. Is this for the first year na fee po? how about yung 19,180? Salamat po sa pag explain.

    Indicative fee basically means approximate fee per year. Yung 19k that's for one sem tuition only.

    19k USD for one sem lang? 😲

    m(au)nifesting 🇦🇺

  • MLBSMLBS Manila
    Posts: 972Member
    Joined: Sep 11, 2016

    @casssie said:

    @athelene said:

    @rhyspalma said:
    Hi po, just want to ask po what is indicative fee sa tuition. Been searching google but I cant seem to understand ano po ba talaga ibig sabihin. Example po sa attached image, yung first yr indicative fee is 38,650. Is this for the first year na fee po? how about yung 19,180? Salamat po sa pag explain.

    Indicative fee basically means approximate fee per year. Yung 19k that's for one sem tuition only.

    19k USD for one sem lang? 😲

    AUD yan of course

    br00dling365

    233411 Electronics Engineer (Age-30, Educ-15,English proficiency-20, NAATI - 5, Single, - 10 Relative sponsorship - 15)
    95 pts total


    2017


    June 3, 2017 = Graduated from College
    July 8, 2017 = Took IELTS GT
    July 21, 2017 = received IELTS results (LRWS = 8/9/7.5/7)
    August 11, 2017 = Lodged EA assessment (Fast track)
    September 6, 2017 = Received positive EA assessment, lodged EOI (489 Family sponsored - 60 pts)
    September 21, 2017 = Took PTE exam
    September 22, 2017 = Received PTE results (LRSW- 90/90/90/90), lodged 189 EOI (60 pts), updated 489 FS EOI (70 pts)
    September 26, 2017 = Lodged 190 EOI (NSW) 65 pts


    2018


    1 year wait... still no EOI invite. Decided to pursue student visa instead

    Course: Cert IV and Diploma - Work Health and Safety (DNA Kingston)

    October 15, 2018 = offer letter from school
    November 8, 2018 = Medical exam (St. Lukes)
    November 20, 2018 = Paid for tuition
    Novemeber 28, 2018 = Received COE
    December 2, 2018 = Lodged visa, after 1 min, granted!


    2019


    Feb 4 2019 = arrived to Perth


    2020


    Jan 2020 = Age increased to 30 pts
    Jan 20 2020 = Took NAATI
    Jan 26 2020 = Results for NAATI (passed) +5 pts
    Jan 27 2020 = lodged EOI 491 Family
    Feb 10 2020 = invited finally!
    Oct 8 2020 = 491 granted


    2023


    Oct 8 2023 = 191 Lodged
    Oct 30 2023 = 191 granted

  • mathilde9mathilde9 Singapore
    Posts: 791Member
    Joined: Nov 15, 2021

    @casssie said:
    19k USD for one sem lang? 😲

    AUD yan basta in au websites unless stated otherwise.

    OCCUPATION : SOFTWARE ENGINEER (261313) ~~ DIY. Offshore.
    Total Points ~~ NSW SC190: 90pts
    Points Breakdown:
    Age:25 | English:20 | Employment:15 | Education:15 | Single:10
    Been to Australia a few times and I just wanted to settle there. "I belong here" ganon.
    ~~~~
    10 2021 - Research about AU migration; read a lot of related articles; consulted with agent for initial assessment. Decided to DIY.
    11 2021 - PTE (Proficient)
    11 2021 - Suitable ACS Skills Assessment received (8+ years suitable, 5weeks 4days TAT)
    ~~~~
    01 2022 - EOIs submitted (matumal and slight hiatus since na-busy sa ibang bagay)
    ~~~~
    09 2023 - PTE retake (Superior 90 overall)
    09 2023 - Updated EOIs to reflect +10pts on English Test
    11 2023 - ACS Assessment expired T_T (but already prepared for re-assessment a few weeks before)
    11 2023 - ACS deemed my skills unsuitable because of missing documents. Nilaban ko.
    12 2023 - Suitable ACS Skills reassessment (8+ years) after 1month of review and pangungulit (no fee incurred, fault nila)
    12 2023 - Some EOIs expired T_T
    12 2023 - New EOIs submitted (NSW, VIC, ACT, and 189)
    ~~~~
    02 2024 - Booked NAATI Exam (desperate to max out point for a chance of invite)
    02 2024 - Received NSW 190 pre-invite!! ✩₊˚ (tears of joy, TYL! ). Cancelled NAATI test at 75% refund.
    02 2024 - Final NSW ITA received after 1 business day ✩₊˚
    02 2024 - Visa Lodgement
    02 2024 - Medicals. Cleared after 1 business day @ SATA AMK
    02 2024 - Singapore Police Clearance. Completed/claimed after 6 business days
    _ _ 2024 - ✩₊˚.⋆☾⋆⁺₊✧** Visa Grant! **✩₊˚.⋆☾⋆⁺₊✧

  • JacrayeJacraye Sydney
    Posts: 272Member
    Joined: Mar 06, 2018

    @pilot_marker said:
    Hello everyone! I am asking on behalf of my sister and brother-in-law. Gusto po nila malaman kung may advantage na mag apply ng student visa while on shore as tourist or the same lang kung mag apply lang from Pinas. Also, alam nyo po ba kung magkano ang tution or levy ng anak nila na mag primary school kasama nila either in NSW or VIC. Thank you.

    Regardless the outcome of the application, one possible advantage is a bit faster. Though this based on those migration> @MLBS said:

    @PR_AU said:

    @athelene said:

    @PR_AU said:
    Hi! Good morning. Is TKL in Paramatta a good school po?
    I’m planning to take Graduate Diploma of Management (Learning).
    Also, will I be eligible to apply for Graduate Visa then work my way to apply for PR?
    Hope to get your inputs. Thaank you

    Not all student visa holders are eligible for 485 visa. Please do your due diligence and look into your potential PR pathway before enrolling in any program. It might be better to pursue a program related to your degree in the PH instead of cheap programs in management/business/leadership (diploma level). Usually walang pathway yun into 485 visa or PR.

    Under the Graduate Work stream, you need to have a qualification relevant to the occupation on the skilled shortage list. Under the Post-Study Work stream, you need to have completed at least a Bachelor's degree in Australia.

    https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/getting-a-visa/visa-listing/temporary-graduate-485

    I am a BSBA Marketing graduate with work experience in the banking industry (Marketing/Product/Events-related).

    I already kept in touch with some agencies as I want to study, work, and live in Australia. So far the options I got are:
    1. Masters in Business Administration
    2. Masters in Business Analytics

    I am hoping to find cheaper options po sana but if none hope to hear your inputs as to which path I can take that has PR-route. I am looking for a school near Blacktown NSW. Please let me know if you have recos. Thank you! :)

    Agencies that work on student visas are usually unaware on how the PR process works. Seen a lot of people here get sweet talked by agencies only to end up going home after their study. They mostly care on getting you to AUS for the comission on your tuition, pero wala na sila gagawin after nyan. I personally know people na student visa pa rin 4 years+ na, so I recommend that you look into the PR process and how it works. Wag ka lang maniwala sa sinabi ng agent.

    This might be true for some agencies but not all. I personally know one that even assist you in your PR process without taking any fees. They only have a small team (family members) but they are really nice and accommodating. They even throw a Christmas party every year (pre COVID) for all their current and existing students.

    As far as I know, they are really good in what they do and up to this day are still helping us with new family members in their PR journey.

    ANZSCO 233213 Quantity Surveyor

  • casssiecasssie ✨🦘✨
    Posts: 668Member
    Joined: Nov 15, 2022

    19k AUD = 684k PHP

    Ang mahal pala talaga ng student route. Kala ko php 1M/year will suffice na. Grabe ang yaman pala talaga ng nags-SV!

    m(au)nifesting 🇦🇺

  • MLBSMLBS Manila
    Posts: 972Member
    Joined: Sep 11, 2016
    edited August 2023

    @casssie said:
    19k AUD = 684k PHP

    Ang mahal pala talaga ng student route. Kala ko php 1M/year will suffice na. Grabe ang yaman pala talaga ng nags-SV!

    Bachelor degrees cost that much, pero diploma courses are a third of that. Nagtake ako ng cert IV and diploma nung bago ako dito, it was 6k a year. Sakit pa rin though, could have used that money to buy useless things instead haha

    On top na mahal na tuition mo sa SV, lahat pa ng disadvantages attached dyan - limited work rights, at huge disadvantage sa job applications dahil nga hindi ka PR/Citizen. Wala ka pa support sa govt like HECS/Medicare, and ang bayad ng tuition dyan usually is 1 upfront payment, no split payments. I always tell people to stay away from SV unless it's the last resort, and dapat alam mo mangyayari sa visa situation mo after mo matapos sa course.

    casssie

    233411 Electronics Engineer (Age-30, Educ-15,English proficiency-20, NAATI - 5, Single, - 10 Relative sponsorship - 15)
    95 pts total


    2017


    June 3, 2017 = Graduated from College
    July 8, 2017 = Took IELTS GT
    July 21, 2017 = received IELTS results (LRWS = 8/9/7.5/7)
    August 11, 2017 = Lodged EA assessment (Fast track)
    September 6, 2017 = Received positive EA assessment, lodged EOI (489 Family sponsored - 60 pts)
    September 21, 2017 = Took PTE exam
    September 22, 2017 = Received PTE results (LRSW- 90/90/90/90), lodged 189 EOI (60 pts), updated 489 FS EOI (70 pts)
    September 26, 2017 = Lodged 190 EOI (NSW) 65 pts


    2018


    1 year wait... still no EOI invite. Decided to pursue student visa instead

    Course: Cert IV and Diploma - Work Health and Safety (DNA Kingston)

    October 15, 2018 = offer letter from school
    November 8, 2018 = Medical exam (St. Lukes)
    November 20, 2018 = Paid for tuition
    Novemeber 28, 2018 = Received COE
    December 2, 2018 = Lodged visa, after 1 min, granted!


    2019


    Feb 4 2019 = arrived to Perth


    2020


    Jan 2020 = Age increased to 30 pts
    Jan 20 2020 = Took NAATI
    Jan 26 2020 = Results for NAATI (passed) +5 pts
    Jan 27 2020 = lodged EOI 491 Family
    Feb 10 2020 = invited finally!
    Oct 8 2020 = 491 granted


    2023


    Oct 8 2023 = 191 Lodged
    Oct 30 2023 = 191 granted

  • MLBSMLBS Manila
    Posts: 972Member
    Joined: Sep 11, 2016

    @Jacraye said:

    @pilot_marker said:
    Hello everyone! I am asking on behalf of my sister and brother-in-law. Gusto po nila malaman kung may advantage na mag apply ng student visa while on shore as tourist or the same lang kung mag apply lang from Pinas. Also, alam nyo po ba kung magkano ang tution or levy ng anak nila na mag primary school kasama nila either in NSW or VIC. Thank you.

    Regardless the outcome of the application, one possible advantage is a bit faster. Though this based on those migration> @MLBS said:

    @PR_AU said:

    @athelene said:

    @PR_AU said:
    Hi! Good morning. Is TKL in Paramatta a good school po?
    I’m planning to take Graduate Diploma of Management (Learning).
    Also, will I be eligible to apply for Graduate Visa then work my way to apply for PR?
    Hope to get your inputs. Thaank you

    Not all student visa holders are eligible for 485 visa. Please do your due diligence and look into your potential PR pathway before enrolling in any program. It might be better to pursue a program related to your degree in the PH instead of cheap programs in management/business/leadership (diploma level). Usually walang pathway yun into 485 visa or PR.

    Under the Graduate Work stream, you need to have a qualification relevant to the occupation on the skilled shortage list. Under the Post-Study Work stream, you need to have completed at least a Bachelor's degree in Australia.

    https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/getting-a-visa/visa-listing/temporary-graduate-485

    I am a BSBA Marketing graduate with work experience in the banking industry (Marketing/Product/Events-related).

    I already kept in touch with some agencies as I want to study, work, and live in Australia. So far the options I got are:
    1. Masters in Business Administration
    2. Masters in Business Analytics

    I am hoping to find cheaper options po sana but if none hope to hear your inputs as to which path I can take that has PR-route. I am looking for a school near Blacktown NSW. Please let me know if you have recos. Thank you! :)

    Agencies that work on student visas are usually unaware on how the PR process works. Seen a lot of people here get sweet talked by agencies only to end up going home after their study. They mostly care on getting you to AUS for the comission on your tuition, pero wala na sila gagawin after nyan. I personally know people na student visa pa rin 4 years+ na, so I recommend that you look into the PR process and how it works. Wag ka lang maniwala sa sinabi ng agent.

    This might be true for some agencies but not all. I personally know one that even assist you in your PR process without taking any fees. They only have a small team (family members) but they are really nice and accommodating. They even throw a Christmas party every year (pre COVID) for all their current and existing students.

    As far as I know, they are really good in what they do and up to this day are still helping us with new family members in their PR journey.

    Good to know there's one such agency like that, but the reality is the majority of them are not. So mas ok na people themselves do their due diligence and research on what to do

    233411 Electronics Engineer (Age-30, Educ-15,English proficiency-20, NAATI - 5, Single, - 10 Relative sponsorship - 15)
    95 pts total


    2017


    June 3, 2017 = Graduated from College
    July 8, 2017 = Took IELTS GT
    July 21, 2017 = received IELTS results (LRWS = 8/9/7.5/7)
    August 11, 2017 = Lodged EA assessment (Fast track)
    September 6, 2017 = Received positive EA assessment, lodged EOI (489 Family sponsored - 60 pts)
    September 21, 2017 = Took PTE exam
    September 22, 2017 = Received PTE results (LRSW- 90/90/90/90), lodged 189 EOI (60 pts), updated 489 FS EOI (70 pts)
    September 26, 2017 = Lodged 190 EOI (NSW) 65 pts


    2018


    1 year wait... still no EOI invite. Decided to pursue student visa instead

    Course: Cert IV and Diploma - Work Health and Safety (DNA Kingston)

    October 15, 2018 = offer letter from school
    November 8, 2018 = Medical exam (St. Lukes)
    November 20, 2018 = Paid for tuition
    Novemeber 28, 2018 = Received COE
    December 2, 2018 = Lodged visa, after 1 min, granted!


    2019


    Feb 4 2019 = arrived to Perth


    2020


    Jan 2020 = Age increased to 30 pts
    Jan 20 2020 = Took NAATI
    Jan 26 2020 = Results for NAATI (passed) +5 pts
    Jan 27 2020 = lodged EOI 491 Family
    Feb 10 2020 = invited finally!
    Oct 8 2020 = 491 granted


    2023


    Oct 8 2023 = 191 Lodged
    Oct 30 2023 = 191 granted

  • DreamerGDreamerG Posts: 269Member
    Joined: Aug 19, 2022

    Good News for International Students

    New international student visa reforms will allow applicants to use pathway as means for migration to Australia

    https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/new-international-student-visa-reforms-will-allow-applicants-to-use-pathway-as-means-for-migration-to-australia/news-story/bb31d8d3e2e0674d230fed10b4104ff0?amp

    Occupation: CIVIL ENGINEER
    Points: SC189-75/SC190-80/SC491-90
    EOI: Nov 2021
    ROI: Aug 2022
    Patiently waiting for Gods' perfect timing

  • mathilde9mathilde9 Singapore
    Posts: 791Member
    Joined: Nov 15, 2021

    @casssie said:
    19k AUD = 684k PHP

    Ang mahal pala talaga ng student route. Kala ko php 1M/year will suffice na. Grabe ang yaman pala talaga ng nags-SV!

    Mostly ng mga kilala kong nag student pathway 2 or 3 years ago, incurred huge loan and are still paying it. Last resort na siguro itong SV for me since walang assurance na maPR (i don't know for this FY). Go for GSM talaga kung qualified naman. Again, depende and kanya kanyang circumstances.

    casssie

    OCCUPATION : SOFTWARE ENGINEER (261313) ~~ DIY. Offshore.
    Total Points ~~ NSW SC190: 90pts
    Points Breakdown:
    Age:25 | English:20 | Employment:15 | Education:15 | Single:10
    Been to Australia a few times and I just wanted to settle there. "I belong here" ganon.
    ~~~~
    10 2021 - Research about AU migration; read a lot of related articles; consulted with agent for initial assessment. Decided to DIY.
    11 2021 - PTE (Proficient)
    11 2021 - Suitable ACS Skills Assessment received (8+ years suitable, 5weeks 4days TAT)
    ~~~~
    01 2022 - EOIs submitted (matumal and slight hiatus since na-busy sa ibang bagay)
    ~~~~
    09 2023 - PTE retake (Superior 90 overall)
    09 2023 - Updated EOIs to reflect +10pts on English Test
    11 2023 - ACS Assessment expired T_T (but already prepared for re-assessment a few weeks before)
    11 2023 - ACS deemed my skills unsuitable because of missing documents. Nilaban ko.
    12 2023 - Suitable ACS Skills reassessment (8+ years) after 1month of review and pangungulit (no fee incurred, fault nila)
    12 2023 - Some EOIs expired T_T
    12 2023 - New EOIs submitted (NSW, VIC, ACT, and 189)
    ~~~~
    02 2024 - Booked NAATI Exam (desperate to max out point for a chance of invite)
    02 2024 - Received NSW 190 pre-invite!! ✩₊˚ (tears of joy, TYL! ). Cancelled NAATI test at 75% refund.
    02 2024 - Final NSW ITA received after 1 business day ✩₊˚
    02 2024 - Visa Lodgement
    02 2024 - Medicals. Cleared after 1 business day @ SATA AMK
    02 2024 - Singapore Police Clearance. Completed/claimed after 6 business days
    _ _ 2024 - ✩₊˚.⋆☾⋆⁺₊✧** Visa Grant! **✩₊˚.⋆☾⋆⁺₊✧

  • rhyspalmarhyspalma Posts: 2Member
    Joined: Aug 23, 2021

    @rhyspalma said:
    Hi po, just want to ask po what is indicative fee sa tuition. Been searching google but I cant seem to understand ano po ba talaga ibig sabihin. Example po sa attached image, yung first yr indicative fee is 38,650. Is this for the first year na fee po? how about yung 19,180? Salamat po sa pag explain.

    This is taken from ECU (Edith Cowan University). Mahal sya since university and recognized ni Engineers Australia ang degree after completion. And masters degree po eto. Pero napakamahal talaga ng education for international students sa Australia. Almost doubled the cost for domestic students. If sa colleges ka mag aaral, lower ang cost pero apakamahal pa rin :smiley:

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