Process in Renting a House

angelwheng

Hi, we will soon migrate to Adelaide by Feb 2015. Can anybody share their experience in renting a house either studio or 1-bedroom or the likes? I've tried to contact some agents na nagooffer ng mga house for rent online but they say na we need to inspect the property first before makapagapply. Naiintindihan ko naman na its a rule talaga sa pagacquire ng house.

Wala po kami relatives dyan so we're planning na maghotel or hostel for few days muna upon arrival but we need to know sana gaano po katagal maprocess yung application (baka maubos kasi ang baon namin pag humaba ang stay sa hotel..hehehe) and sabi nung nakausap ko na agent they are requiring a proof of income. Paano po kung wala pa kaming work since kakarating nga lang namin. We're a family of 3 (me, hubby and a 1 yr old baby). Nagtry rin ako maghanap ng houseshare pero hindi lahat tumatanggap ng may bata. Usually, single or couple ang preferred. Meron na po ba sa inyong new migrant na nakakuha agad ng own unit days after arrival?

Sana may makatulong po sa inquiry ko.

Thanks in advance po sa mga sasagot.

goreo

same scenario tayo.. we'll be moving to au july 2015..wait din ako ng magiging answers dito..

legato09

Wag po kayo panghihinaan ng loob sa sagot ko, ituloy nyo po ang paglipat pero need nyo po iconsider ang inyong mga options.

Hindi po ganun kabilis humanap ng bahay like 2-5days, pero depende pa din po yun sa availability nung unit na gusto nyo. Usually po mabilis na ang 1 week after the application kasi i-approve pa ng may ari yan tapos mag susubmit pa kayo ng documents.

Tama po, most agents po nag rerequire na makita nyo ang bahay at isubmit ang application onsite. Ang pede nyo po gawin, mag check po kayo ng online sites ng mga agent, piliin nyo kung anong unit ang gusto nyo then mag pa sched kayo ng viewing day after kayo dumating sa OZ. Kung gusto nyo na yung unit pede na kyo mag apply onsite during the viewing, pero may mga documents na kailangan kayo isubmit.

About sa Hostel, mag allocate po kayo ng 2weeks to 2months na budget para sure na kung magtagal ang paghahanap ng bahay eh meron kayo bala, pinaka safe po is humanap kayo ng temporary accomodation, shared na bahay for example, hanap po kayo dito sa forum baka meron pede mag offer ng room nila para medyo makatipid.

About sa proof of income, kung kaya nyo po mag open ng account online dito sa OZ habang andyan kayo sa location nyo mas maganda, then tawagan nyo ang bank once maka open kayo and tanong nyo kung pede na kayo mag transfer ng pera, if pede na, mag transfer na kayo. Kasi kung wala po kayo proof of income eh bank statement po ang hahanapin sa inyo, make sure na ang laman ng bank nyo is enough to cover yung living expense nyo dun sa duration na irerent nyo yung unit.

Duration of rent, usually po 6mths or 1year ang contract, meron po iba 3 or 4mths renewable, pag aralan nyo po mabuti kung ano yung lease term na gust nyo, kasi mahirap mag backout later on kung gusto nyo lumipat, usually mag babayad kayo ng 1week rent+termination fee+weeks na walang nakakakuha na papalit sa inyo.

Ideal location, alamin nyo po kung san nyo gusto tumira kung di pa sure kunin nyo po yung pinaka maikling lease term sa bahay parang kung lilipat kayo later on eh maikling time lang aantayin nyo, pero kung maikling term ang pinili nyo iconsider nyo din po na kapag nag renew kayo pede tumaas ang rent nyo, so bago po kayo mag sign alamin nyo na sa agent kung mag renew kayo eh tataas ba ang rent.

Utilities, quarterly po ang alam ko, pero pede nyo gawin monthly. Usually may mga suggested provider na ang agent pero pede naman kayo mag apply sa iba para sa Ilaw or gas. usually po ang water ay sagot ng may ari, di ko po sure sa state na gusto nyo kung ganun din.

wizardofOz

Yung proof of income, enough na ba yung may maipakitang savings lang sa bangko?

Or does the leasor require a steady “income”, like proof of employment (which is wala pa kadalasan for new arrivals)…

Para mapaghandaan lang sana ang possible rejections or we can say this affront sa agent para mabilis ang maging discussion…

legato09

Yung proof of income, enough na ba yung may maipakitang savings lang sa bangko?

Or does the leasor require a steady “income”, like proof of employment (which is wala pa kadalasan for new arrivals)…

Para mapaghandaan lang sana ang possible rejections or we can say this affront sa agent para mabilis ang maging discussion…

Tama po, let them know upfront para hindi din masayang ang application nyo. Marami po kasi sila considerations before approval.

Yes, kung kakalipat lang at wala pa work, bank statement ang titirnan nila, and it would be helpful kung OZ bank statement sya.

gerardds

hi @legato09, is this applicable only if you are going to rent the entire unit?
how about kung room lang? same process pa rin? thanks

wizardofOz

thanks @legato09 dapat pala mga few weeks, or even months before IED, mag-start nang mag-transfer ng pera sa Oz bank.. para makita rin nung leasor na continuous yung dating nung pera at hindi biglaang one time lang

legato09

hi @legato09, is this applicable only if you are going to rent the entire unit?
how about kung room lang? same process pa rin? thanks

For the a unit, yes that is 100% applicable.
For a room, normally po kasi sublet yung room or yung may ari mismo ang nagpaparent, medyo madalang po kasi yung agency/agent na nag ooffer ng room.

legato09

thanks @legato09 dapat pala mga few weeks, or even months before IED, mag-start nang mag-transfer ng pera sa Oz bank.. para makita rin nung leasor na continuous yung dating nung pera at hindi biglaang one time lang

Actually, na intindihan naman nila na kakalipat lang, so establish pa din nila sa may ari ng unit na capable kayo mag bayad so hihingan kayo ng ibang document to support that.

Like in my case, naka 4 applications sa apat na viewing ko in 1 day spending 80$ taxi fare para abutan ang viewing schedule ng bawat isa. 1 of them responded the next day and requested for further documents, and i did move the following week after completing the docs and gotten the owners approval, 2 of them just ignored my application, the last one, requested for further documents later on but I mentioned meron na ako nakuha.

Viewing schedule sa weekend is usually Saturday lang then ang timing is between 10:00am to 2:00pm and meron ka lang 10-15mins para iview, swerte na kung mag offer ng 30mins viewing time.

JCsantos

Process in renting

1. Inspect the the Unit ( required ) expect a very long que
2. File an application form , this ussually downloadable on agents website
- attached a payslip, bank statement or any documents with income details
3. Wait if you get approved
4. if you got approved you need to buy a cash cheque ?? ( forgot what is called ) you can buy one on australia post outlet ( 25$ dati ) + 1000$ bond
5. inspect the unit again and fill the bond form and the tenancy agreement form and the checklist ( whats not and whats in the unit, the status of the unit like kung marumi , sira or merong problema ang unit ) please keep a copy ....
6. move in

what we did was we download the form already , fill up the form , photocopied requirements and on the inspection day if we like we just hand over our application

angelwheng

@legato09 @JCsantos @wizardofOz @gerrards, maraming salamat po sa mga inputs. Nakatulong po ng malaki ito sa amin. Best way na nga muna siguro ang maghanap ng houseshare para mas makatipid. Mukhang matatagalan nga makapagacquire ng unit. Thanks po sa inyong lahat.

angelwheng

@legato09 isa pa pong tanong, pwede po bang direct deposit na lang ang gawin instead of bank transfer sa fund? example, bitbit namin yung baon na hindi naman lalagpas dun sa allowed then pagdating saka namin ideposit?

gerardds

@legato09 thanks... room lang talaga muna ang ok

legato09

@angelwheng pede po sya then ask ka bank summary outright. nagawa ko po sya sa commbank.

legato09

@legato09 thanks... room lang talaga muna ang ok

Yup, kung makakanap ka sana dito atleast alam mo na pinoy din. Goodluck sa paglipat ang paghahanap nyo ng room...welcome to Au!

RuChe

Try nyo din yung mga house or room for rent posting dito sa pinoyau kung meron nakapost sa location na gusto nyo. Mas madali siguro transactions.
Madalas kase pag maganda location at ok yung price, madami kayong applicants. Isa lang shempre sa inyo ang maapprove.

gerardds

@legato09 correct, syempre iba pa rin na kasama mo sa una e mga pinoy dahil same culture.. Thanks

legato09

Process in renting

1. Inspect the the Unit ( required ) expect a very long que
2. File an application form , this ussually downloadable on agents website
- attached a payslip, bank statement or any documents with income details
3. Wait if you get approved
4. if you got approved you need to buy a cash cheque ?? ( forgot what is called ) you can buy one on australia post outlet ( 25$ dati ) + 1000$ bond
5. inspect the unit again and fill the bond form and the tenancy agreement form and the checklist ( whats not and whats in the unit, the status of the unit like kung marumi , sira or merong problema ang unit ) please keep a copy ....
6. move in

what we did was we download the form already , fill up the form , photocopied requirements and on the inspection day if we like we just hand over our application

Bank Cheque?

Tama po ito. kapag nag move in na kayo kung meron mali or problema dun sa unit picturan nyo for example, madumi ang carpet, sira ang knob mga minor things na pede i-ignore pero at the end of the lease baka sa inyo i tag yung mga defects na yun.

Any problem i report kagad sa agent ;-)

goreo

thanks @legato09 and JCsantos!

angelwheng

@legato09 Maraming salamat po

legato09

No worries, good luck sa paghahanap nyo ng house ;-) make it an enjoyable experience and not a nightmare ;-)

JCsantos

Guys if i were I wont be choosy in choosing a rental property , mahirap makakuha ng unit .... initial siguro kahit saang suburb na lang or kahit lumang luma na yung property ... if you got one staka na kayo maghanap ng mejo maganda kung alam nyo na yung gusto nyo .. kami yung una namin nirentahan sobrang parang sira sira ang hirap kasi maghanap talaga ... 1 month yata kami naghanap ... at sobrang dami naming application ...

sebastian04

Mahirap maghanap ng rental property sa totoo lang, parang paghahanap din ng trabaho.. Kapag maganda ang presyo nung property for sure madami kang kasabay sa viewing. After staying for a few months here, finally we were able to transfer to our own rental unit. Few tips that I can share…

Make sure may ready funds to pay the bond, dito sa SA, bond is 4 weeks of rent if property is below 250 p/w, if above 250 then multiply it by 6. Then also be prepared to pay the first 2 weeks advance.

Be friendly to the agent. Do small talk and make sure you express your interest that you want to rent the property. Make sure to leave a good impression and dressing up in a formal or semi formal attire helps.

We don't have enough money in our savings and usually agent requires a statement of account. What I did was write a cover letter address to the land lord, introducing ourselves, telling the owner about our background and our work (my wife's -- im still jobless ). I also told the owner that we are ready to pay 4 weeks in advance instead of the usual 2 weeks. I didn't submit our bank statement kasi for sure that wont help us get the property.

I asked the agent if she can put in a good word for us to the land lord. Agent told us we seemed to be a nice couple who'd take care of the property.

The next day we were asked to deposit the bond (bank transfer via internet.. BPAY i think) and they will prepare the tenancy agreement. We got the rental property.

JCsantos

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I asked the agent if she can put in a good word for us to the land lord. Agent told us we seemed to be a nice couple who'd take care of the property.

This is a keyword to get approved

kung sa tingin ng landlord e inde nyo sisirain yung property nila kayo ang pipiliin

angelwheng

@JCsantos @sebastian04 Thanks po sa inputs. Yun nga po gagawin namin, kahit house share muna ang kunin namin. So far wala pa rin po kami nahahanap pero may ilang months pa naman before our flight. Hoping na may makuha kami thru recommendation or ad here in pinoyau.

graciecrazy09

Hello po, meron po ba kayong idea kung paano po ang process at kung anong documents na irequire po sa mga international students kapag kukuha po ng rental property po?

piglet24

this thread is really helpful. I am going crazy checking the internet for cheap house rental. we wanted to rent a room lang din sana kaso, we were blessed to get pregnant a few months from moving so change of plans na. Now, medyo may idea na ako on how to go about it. Ask ko lang, is it ok to ask the agent or landlord for the maintenance of the unit prior to moving in? Isa pang tanong, usually ba pinagbabawal ang pag drill ng holes sa wall? thanks.

Envy

this thread is really helpful. I am going crazy checking the internet for cheap house rental. we wanted to rent a room lang din sana kaso, we were blessed to get pregnant a few months from moving so change of plans na. Now, medyo may idea na ako on how to go about it. Ask ko lang, is it ok to ask the agent or landlord for the maintenance of the unit prior to moving in? Isa pang tanong, usually ba pinagbabawal ang pag drill ng holes sa wall? thanks.

if you are renting from an Agent, then you dont need to worry about maintenance. Expect to get the unit at prestine condition. Everything is working (lights, tap, hot water), no stain in carpets, no stain in walls. If the unit has a garden, it would have been neat and tidy.
There are times where a unit has 'known' issues like pet scratch in door blah blah.. It will be fully documented in the Inventory Report. This report will be given to the renter for inspection. Once you all agree with the status report then its all done.

Of course at the end of the lease, the Agent expects to get the unit in the same condition it was handed to you. No more no less. No holes, no change of wall colors. Some Agents even asked the renter for a professional carpet cleaners.

You are also not allowed to leave 'anything' without prior consent from the Agent.

(Gas, Electricity , internet, Cable TV , phone connections are renters responsibilitiy)

piglet24

@envy: thanks that was helpful. so i take it, its a big NO-NO ang pag drill ng holes. that's sad. haha. still need to ipon more para makapagbayad ng deposit and advance. baka wala na kaming makakain in the end. hehe thanks again.

Envy

@piglet24

upfront you need cash for the following

bond -- equivalent to 4 weeks rent (deposit ang term sa pinas). At the end of lease, if the landlord or agent is happy with the state of the unit, you get the full amount. If there are any maintenance work to be done, its either you pay for it or ask them to deduct the amount from your bond.

advance -- usually 2 weeks rent. then you can agree on the payment frequency (forthnight or monthly)

Plus i already mentioned this in another thread, in most cases you need to view the property by yourself or atleast a representative before you can even submit your rent application.

And you need to provide 100 points of identification papers issued or recognized in Australia.

e.g.

Passport = 70 points
Credit Card = 10 points

piglet24

@envy:

Thanks for the info. By the way, how to get those points for passport and credit card? At the moment wala kaming credit card. We only have atm card sa bank acccount namin.