EOI club

icebreaker1928

since July na, umpisahan ko na ang topic na to....
sino sino na nakapaglodge ng EOI?
share your experience here

chefin

Ako po pero sa 457 lang muna kasi I am still waiting for my skills assessment.

icebreaker1928

pang-ilan ka na sir sa nagpasa ng EOI?
ayon sa expatforum, nasa 47700+ na daw ang nagsusubmit... grabe ang dami na agad? 3 days pa lang....
mga kababayan apply na

hotshot

@icebreaker1928 : ang weird naman nun....47K applications after 3 days? edi sana hinabol na lang nila yung June 30th? hehe

icebreaker1928

^ server maintenance ata nung june 29-30... kaya hindi na sila nakahabol hehehe...

hotshot

hehehe

k_mavs

Dito natin makikita yung mga the "Few chosen" ni DIAC. Good luck sa lahat ng mga soon be invitees.

icebreaker1928

^ siguro magiging gaya na sila ng US... yung visa parang lottery na lang hehehe...

chefin

@icebreaker1928 - nasa 21000 yong number ko.

LokiJr

nirereset nila yung EoI count after each selection period diba? So kahit 50,000+ na ngayon yan...after every two months, liliit uli yung bilang niyan

wynx

hello everyone,

July 1 nagsubmit na ako ng EOI ko. ang number ko ay 18448 n agad. kumusta ang po ang experience nyo sa submission ng EOI?

olrac183

Guys pagnagpasa ba kelangan tapos na sa IELTS?

icebreaker1928

kuha ko lang sa expat, share ko na rin dito...
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EOI - The Earlier The Better
As you all know, the Skill Select has kicked in today. From now on, aspiring immigrants would have to submit an Expression of Interest (EOI) to the DIAC to be considered for a visa.

Applicants are ranked based on different factors including Age, English language ability, Skilled employment, Educational qualifications, Australian study requirements and some other factors (Partner Skills and so on) - but you would not be able to view your rank.

Why?

Because it will keep changing as "better" EOIs are made.

Now coming back to the topic.

Why should you make the EOI without any delay?

There are two main reasons.

1. Points-tie
Person A makes an EOI for a particular occupational code. Person B, a day later, makes the EOI for the same occupational code.
Now suppose that both have 65 points.

What would happen?

Skill Select is a point based system.
In case of a points-tie, the person to make the first EOI gets the preference. So in our example Person A gets the preference.

But what exactly is taken into account here is the time you submitted your EOI or the time at which you make an update to your EOI causing your points score or visa eligibility to change - whichever is later.
Now suppose Person C has filed his EOI on 1st July with 60 points and Person D files on 2nd July with 70 points.
Few days later, Person C receives a higher IELTS score (may be through EOR) and updates the EOI to have 70 points.
Now that both of them have the same point score, who will have the ranking preference?
You guessed it, it's D - because C's last updated time (causing points score or visa eligibility to change) is after D's.

Most applicants would be getting scores between 60 and 80.
With thousands of applicants, that means there will a high number of point-ties which will lead to the early applications being pushed up in priority among the similarly scoring ones.

So it goes without saying that you should make your EOI at the earliest if you have your skills assessed and possess a favourable IELTS result.

2. Occupation Ceiling
Skill Select would help DIAC to streamline issuing PRs.
The provision to specify an occupation ceiling has been incorporated into the Skill Select to do this efficiently.

What is an Occupation Ceiling?

It is simply a number - the number of applicants that would be granted a visa in a particular occupational group.
An occupational group is the set of all occupations that come under the 4 digit unit group level of the ANZSCO.

For example, group 2613 is for SOFTWARE AND APPLICATIONS PROGRAMMERS. The occupations that come under this group are:

261311 Analyst Programmer
261312 Developer Programmer
261313 Software Engineer
261314 Software Tester
261399 Software and Applications Programmers nec

How would the occupational ceiling be specified?

It will be specified as a number that holds good for a program year from 1 July 2012 - it will not be divided into a monthly amounts.
An example would be 5160 (as per reports) for the group 2613 (SOFTWARE AND APPLICATIONS PROGRAMMERS).

What does this mean?
Only 5160 people from the group 2613 will be given a visa in the particular program year.

What happens when the ceiling is reached?
Once the occupation ceiling is reached, no further invitations for that occupation group will be issued.
That means, after 5160 invites have been send out to the group 2613 (and all of them applies for the visa within 60 days), someone who makes an EOI even with 80 points will not receive an invite in the same program year!

So what can we conclude?
As the ceiling is for a year, there is little chance that it gets used up in the initial months of the program year.
As the program year keeps progressing, more and more visas get issued and the total inches towards the ceiling.
So a person who applies in July or August 2012 is more likely to get an invite to apply for the visa than someone who applies in May or June 2013!

In short - the earlier you apply, the better!

References
The benefits of submitting an expression of interest on 1 July | Migration Blog
Busting the myths about SkillSelect | Migration Blog
The benefits of submitting an expression of interest on 1 July | Migration Blog

olrac183

tska pala paano ang EOI, random letter ba ito or meron silang template na fill-upan lang?

icebreaker1928

Reply to @olrac183: sir, sabi dito sa link...

http://migrationblog.immi.gov.au/2012/06/18/why-you-should-submit-an-eoi-on-1-july-2012/#comment-1082

You don’t have to meet the pass mark on the points test to submit an EOI. However you won’t receive an invitation for the points based visas unless you meet the pass mark. You can build upon your EOI to achieve the desired pass mark for points based skilled migration or you can be considered by employers for employer sponsorship.

so I think pede...

lock_code2004

Reply to @olrac183: meron pong online application form... nasa diac's website..

olrac183

thanks nakapag fill-up na ako pero hindi pa submitted since wala pa akong acs assessment at IELTS.

Gench

Hi, pwede ba mag submit ng EOI pag wla pa skill assessment, IELTS pa lan ang na kuha ko?

Thank you po sa mga sagot:)

glaiza1210

ang alam ko hindi po pde dpat ready na both yung IELTS and assessment.

k_mavs

Reply to @Gench: Di sya pwede. dapat at the time of submitting your EOI kumpleto na lahat ng mga requirements mo for the visa application.

Gench

Thanks to K-mavs and glaiza1210 for the answers, skill assessment nlang ang hinihintay ko.

LokiJr

oh ****, per year pala yung occupation ceiling? edi posible palang first round of invites ubos na ang vacancy para sa trabahong yun.

lock_code2004

yup.. the occupation ceiling is for the whole year... pero hindi nmn sguro nila ibibigay lhat yan at one time... kasi matatambakan din sila sa visa processing... at lalong tatagal...

i guess may max number din sila ng invitees per round, depende sa capacity ng mga case officers...

but still, we need to get the max points as possible.. para mas malaki ang chance..

hotshot

yup.. the occupation ceiling is for the whole year... pero hindi nmn sguro nila ibibigay lhat yan at one time... kasi matatambakan din sila sa visa processing... at lalong tatagal...

i guess may max number din sila ng invitees per round, depende sa capacity ng mga case officers...

but still, we need to get the max points as possible.. para mas malaki ang chance..

agree...every point counts na ngayon. kaya dapat ata aim high talaga sa IELTS at kung pwede kunan ng points ang partner, patusin na din.

k_mavs

Reply to @LokiJr: Iyan din siguro ang need nating antayin. kung paano yung process na gagawin nila sa pagbibigay ng EOIs. Parang ang hirap lang isipin nung mga occupations na may ceiling.talagang pagalingan na lang sa pgkuha ng pinakamataas na score.

faye

Reply to @k_mavs: Parang kagaya na ang oz ng new zealand kc sa kanila ganun dati mgEOI tpos isselect kung sino iinvite para mgapply ng visa. Ptaasan nga ng points at mas swerte pag in need tlga ung occupation mo dun mas malaki chance mainvite.

Grabe pla ang butas na pagddaanan ngaun bgo makamtam ang visa!

faye

Reply to @hotshot: Tama at paunahan mgapply

razlem712

Sandali na lang po kaya yun once na select k n?

lock_code2004

Reply to @razlem712: i guess mas mabilis sila mag approve provided na complete ang requirements mo.. i think they will give you 60 days to provide all the requirements and apply for visa..

LokiJr

Ang malaking katanungan ngayon e pag nasama kayo sa invited, ilang araw pa ang processing hehe

stolich18

^ hindi kya mas mbilis na rin dapat kase nafilter na agad sino ung magaapply? hehe :-)