CHEMIST

markier87

Hi all!

I have been back reading a lot of posts here in preparation for my assessment submission. Anybody else who went through the process (for a Chemist) and would like to shed some light for me?

I would appreciate any suggestions/comments/recommendations.

Cheers!

elleb1

@markier87 Hello! Have you visited the VETASSESS website already? I have plans last year to have my skills assessed sa VETASSESS, I opted to have their Skills Advisory Service kasi yung experiences ko e hindi lahat related sa description as per ANZSCO 234211. Advise ko sayo to check carefully yung tasks related to ANZSCO 234211, yung result sakin e hindi favorable kaya hindi nako nagtuloy for Skills Assessment. Sharing with you below yung mga taks dapat ganun yung mga roles mo sa previous at current job mo.

VETASSESS criteria:

Chemist is classified under our authority in Group A. Group A occupations require a qualification which is assessed as comparable to the educational level of an Australian Qualifications Framework (AQF) Bachelor degree, or higher level degree qualification, in a highly relevant field of study to the nominated occupation. In addition to this, applicants must have at least one year of paid and post-qualification employment performed at an appropriate skill level and completed in the last five years. Employment needs to be undertaken after the completion of the highly relevant degree qualification. Pre-qualification employment cannot be considered for Group A occupations.


Degree level qualifications and major fields of study deemed suitable career preparation for Chemist include:

Chemistry (or Chemical Sciences) is the study of the composition, structure, chemical reactions and transformations of matter.

A major in Chemistry would include the coverage of analytical, physical, organic and inorganic chemistry (and at the advanced levels). Current degree programs may have an additional focus on modern applications such as nanotechnology, analytical and environmental chemistry, polymer science and surface science.


ANZSCO Unit Group 2342 Chemists and Food and Wine Scientists

CHEMISTS, AND FOOD AND WINE SCIENTISTS study the chemical and physical properties of substances, develop and monitor chemical processes and production, develop new and improve existing food products, and plan and coordinate the production of wine and spirits.


ANZSCO Specific Occupation description:

Studies the chemical and physical properties of substances, and develops and monitors chemical processes and production.

Specialisations:
Analytical Chemist;
Industrial Chemist


ANZSCO Tasks include (but are not limited to):

Conducting experiments and tests to identify the chemical composition and reactive properties of natural substances and processed materials;

Analysing and conducting research to develop theories, techniques and processes, and testing the reliability of outcomes under different conditions;

Developing practical applications of experimental and research findings;

elleb1

Sharing to you as well the conclusion of Vetassess Advisory Service based on my experience (mostly routine tests lng yung sakin):

In order for VETASESS to consider applying a positive assessment against the occupation Chemist, we would need official and verifiable evidence of your research and development role with this company, your contribution to the design, development and application of experimental and research findings and development of theories, techniques and processes, among other tasks.

Hope this helps and good luck on your application!

jenipet20

@markier87 - hi! Ako positive outcome ko as a chemist sa vetasses. Dapat match ung job description mo dun sa description ng vetasses. Saka if board passer ka, submit mo din un. Ano ba kailngan mo pang malaman?

markier87

Hi, @elleb1 and @jenipet20 Thank you for your help so far.

@elleb1 , Yes I already have checked the VETASSESS website and have gone through the whole process. I was not sure though about the Skills Advisory Service. Now that you've shared that, I guess I will have to look into that again.

@jenipet20 , Good to hear that a fellow Chemist had a positive outcome. My main concern as of now involves acquiring the Employment Docs for the jobs I would like to be accredited, though. While doing my masters (by research), I also worked as a research assistant (I get free studies but I have to work as a research assistant). Now, I did not receive any payslip for that. I just have bank records for it and a Scholarship Certificate indicating that. Do you reckon I can have that positively assessed?

Also, I think to pay $130 for the Skills Advisory Service before applying for my first skills assessment is a good investment. Will probably try that first.

elleb1

@markier87 consider also yung time sa skills advisory i think 20 business days. Maganda nman pala experience mo so malaki chance mo for positive outcome. Ok nman cguro to go for the skills assessment na coz it will take 3 months to have the result din. Advantage now in submitting docs no need for certified true copy colored scan copy of the originals lng. I noticed in your signature na Bisaya ka? I grew up in Bohol and studied college in Cebu.

markier87

@elleb1 Hi! Thanks for your reply. Oo, bisaya ko. Born and raised in Cagayan de Oro.
Nasa Perth pala ako. Ikaw ba? Matagal ka na dito sa Oz?

elleb1

markier87 said:

@elleb1 Hi! Thanks for your reply. Oo, bisaya ko. Born and raised in Cagayan de Oro.
Nasa Perth pala ako. Ikaw ba? Matagal ka na dito sa Oz?

@markier87 wala pako sa Aus, waiting for visa grant (successful unta), under 190 mi, NSW ang sponsoring state so we have moral obligation there for 2 years. Hopefully makakita work didto, wala mi kaila. USC ka pag college, MSU or sa Manila?

God bless on your assessment!

markier87

Ahhh okay @elleb1 .God bless sa inyo application. sa Xavier Uni ko nag college. Salamat, sana macomplete na nako ako docs para sa assessment.

elleb1

@markier87 God bless din! sa documents gathering din kami ntagaln, yung husband ko ang nagpa assess kasi nag match yung job roles nya dun sa ANZCO occupation description. Positive nman outcome:-)

krizzymalasig

Hi fellow Chemist. I am also interested to apply for visa 190 (ANZSCO 234211), I have more than 4 years of experience as Analytical Chemist and have license as well. But I'm not sure if that would be enough. Any thoughts?

Thank you so much..

elleb1

@krizzymalasig Hi! try to match yung job roles/job description mo with the ANZSCO Specific Occupation description and tasks. Malaki chance for you lalo na licensed ka. Please take note that the 4 years experience might be deducted based on "date deemed skilled", i'm not sure how VETASSES calculate it. Minsan daw nababawasan ng 2 years but yung required skilled level for positive assessment is as per below definition:

"applicants must have at least one year of post-qualification employment at an appropriate skilllevelcompleted in the last five years which is highly relevant to the nominated occupation."

This is in addition to:
a qualification which is assessed as comparable to the educational level of an Australian Qualifications Framework (AQF) Bachelor degree or higher degree, in a field highly relevant to the nominated occupation.

Hope this helps and good luck on your assessment!

krizzymalasig

@elleb1 Thank you so much for this info. Nakakalungkot lang kung nababawasan pala. But I guess that's how it works. Have you tried the assessment or planning pa lang din?

My sister already living in Sydney with her family. However, we have different profession hence different assessing body. That's why I'm looking for someone or a group with same profession for me to really understand how it works in our case.

mj_eugenio

Pasali nrin dto. hahaha! Pero next year pako mgpapa asses.

krizzymalasig

@Umbenieyon Help here.

elleb1

@krizzymalasig actually yung wife ko ang chemist, ginagamit din nya tong username na to. hindi na cya nagtuloy sa skill assessment since not favorable yung result ng "General Advisory" service ng VETASSESS for her. She opted for General Advisory before doing the assessment kc nga me doubts cya dun sa current roles with ANZSCO description.

elleb1

@krizzymalasig @mj_eugenio , ndi ako nag pa assess. Meron dito c @jenipet20 got positive outcome plus she's already in Sydney working related to chemistry. She can provide more details :-)

elleb1

Good luck on your application @krizzymalasig and @mj_eugenio :-) mas maaga mag pa assess mas ok. gather all documents na..my husband got problem getting certificate of employment with his previous company, we requested kc COE with job roles nya dun. God bless!

jenipet20

@krizzymalasig - tama si @elleb1 read mo description nung sa chemist ng vetassess, alam ko dapat 80% nung description dun magmatch sa description mo.. Saka malaking factor din ang PRC results mo. Isang company lang ba yung 4yrs na yun? Kasi sakin nun pinasa ko lahat nung 3 companies ko, yun inassess nila is yung recent job ko that time, buti n lang naka 1year 4mos n ko dun.. E ang min pala nila is 1yr kung bachelors degree ang maaassess sayo. Yung dalawang companies ko hindi na-assess, ibang bayad pa pala un, para dagdag points kahit nagpositive assessment n ko, inavail ko ung service pa nila na pang assess sa iba pang employer ko.

krizzymalasig

@elleb1 Thank you for helping us. Inaantay ko pa mag 5 years ako sa company 8 months to go bago ako mag paassess para sure. Hopefully by May next year nacomplete ko na.

krizzymalasig

@jenipet20 Hi.. Sa tingin ko naman fitted naman yung current job ko sa description ng VETASSESS. Isang company lang 4 years ko. Yung Job Title is Analytical Chemist sa R&D Division pero ang main role ko ay testing and method development and validation. Hindi ako umaalis sa company kasi mahirap nga daw sa assessment yung palipat lipat ng company.

Bale 3 companies yung pinaasess mo? OMG. May una kasi ako work sa pharma pero 5months lang ako dun. Kung additional payment hindi ko na isasama. hehehe Mahal ba? LOL

Pano pala yung mga requirements mo, pina certified true copy mo pa ba lahat yung docs mo? And, nung nag pasa ka ba online na lahat?

Yung sister ko nasa Sydney, kaya preferable ko din sana doon, kaso hindi ko alam kung open pa. Pag asa ko na lang yung stream 2. hehehe

Andami ko tanong, naeexcite kasi ako na kinakabahan.

krizzymalasig

@jenipet20 additional question pala, yung sa TOR mo ba nag pass ka din ng course description? Yung ibang course kasi hinahanapan nun, not sure if applicable sya saten sa chemist.

And anong IELTS ang kinuha mo, academic or general lang?


Thank you so much!

jenipet20

@krizzymalasig - good mukhang ok k nmn pala.. Lalo n s r&d ka.. Limot ko n magkno e.. Pero parang per company yung bayad.. Pinaassess ko kasi un kasi mor dan 3years yun e. Sayang s points.. Yung sa vetassess certified copy, hnd p online nun e. Need isend talaga ung mga docs thru courier nung time ko pero nung naglodge n ko
Visa, scanned copy lang. General tayo sa ielts..

jenipet20

@krizzymalasig - ok nagpasa ako.. Basta lahat nung reqts nila pinasa ko.. Mas ok n yung marami kang pinasa kesa sa kulang hehe

elleb1

@krizzymalasig online na lahat ngayon, clear colored copies of the original docs lng kelangan mo. no need na certified true copy :-)

elleb1

@krizzymalasig malaki chance mo for positive outcome lalo na R&D ka. Last year open ang chemist sa Victoria and West Australia. Tama ka pued din stream 2 ng NSW. My husband (microbiologist) got SS from NSW under stream 2. God bless on your application! Advantage sayo kc dun sister mo so hindi ka mahirapan pag dating dun. If visa granted kami bka Sydney din kami kc we have moral obligation for 2 years sa NSW. Balitaan mo ko ha kung magpunta ka na dun :-)

krizzymalasig

@jenipet20 aside sa TOR, nagpasa ka din pati course description?

krizzymalasig

@elleb1 hay salamat pwede na online. Pano pala unang step, mag create ng account sa vetassess? Okay lang ba gumawa ngayon kahit next year pa ako mag papaasess?

Yung payment ba ngayin online na?

Tapos, as long as colored yung docs mo no need for certification?

Thank you.

krizzymalasig

@jenipet20 @elleb1 before kasi nag fill up ng sgr1 form download muna. Ngayon ba yung pag fill up ng application online na or download form then scan?

elleb1

krizzymalasig said:

@elleb1 hay salamat pwede na online. Pano pala unang step, mag create ng account sa vetassess? Okay lang ba gumawa ngayon kahit next year pa ako mag papaasess?



Yung payment ba ngayin online na?



Tapos, as long as colored yung docs mo no need for certification?



Thank you.

oo create ka ng account, ok lng kahit next year ka pa assess. Online na rin payment so madali na. No need certification basta clear colored scan copies of the original. Share ko sayo yung ni require sakin nung nag avail ako sa General Advisory.

elleb1

@krizzymalasig

If applying for a formal full skills assessment VETASSESS will require the following documents:

1. SRG1 Application for Skills Assessment - Applicant Declaration. This form can be completed online or downloaded from our website. The form should be completed and signed.
2. One recent passport sized photograph.
3. High quality colour scan of birth certificate or passport 'bio' page bearing applicant name, photo and date of birth.
4. High quality colour scan of legal document regarding change of name (if applicable).
5. High quality colour scan of your Bachelor of Science in Chemistry award certificate/s or completion letter/s in the original language as well as translations in English (as you have for Advisory Service purposes).
6. High quality colour scan of the official transcripts for your above listed degree both in the original language as well as translations in English (as you have for Advisory Service purposes).
7. High quality colour scan of Statements of Service or reference letters from each employer for whom you have worked in positions related to your nominated occupation within the past 5 years. Employment reference letters should be on the official company or government departmental letterhead of the organisation which employed you. Official letterheads should include the company or organisation's full address details, telephone and fax numbers, email and website addresses. The content of the letter must be issued or endorsed by your supervisor or the manager of the human resources department. It should be signed by an authorised person whose name and position is legible (typed or stamped) below the signature and should include the following information:
a. The direct employment contact details of the person writing the reference and their designation
b. The exact period of your employment
c. The required working hours per week
d. Whether the employment is/was permanent or temporary
e. Whether the employment is/was full-time or part-time
f. The position/s held
g. The main five duties undertaken
h. The salary earned
i. Organisational Chart (if nominating a managerial occupation)

8. Other forms of evidence of paid employment (for each employment period) to be assessed includes:

a. Payslips (ideally the first and the most recent)
b. Payment Summaries for taxation (bearing company and applicant name)
c. Taxation Records of Assessment (bearing company and applicant name)
d. Bank Statements showing at least two salary payments, your name and the employer's name
e. Employment-linked insurance/ superannuation records (bearing company and applicant name)

9. Resume or Curriculum Vitae (CV)
10. Assessment fees - Please refer to our website www.vetassess.com.au for information on latest fees.

So collect muna lahat ng mga docs na matagal e gather, pag mag pa assess ka na make sure na hindi ganun kaluma yung Certificate of Employment (statement of service)mo.