After makapag initial entry date???

icebreaker1928

@wizardofOz walang problema yun sir... yung katropa ko after IED bumalik sya mga 1wk before bago mag expire visa nya. pero yun nga, nung nag apply na sya ng citzenship, nirequire sya ng panibagong NBI clearance.

IslanderndCity

@icebreaker1928 so parang Initial Entry lang din work na naman for ~4 years outside Au?

icebreaker1928

@IslanderndCity yes, pero syempre wag mo naman gawin na 1wk before, delikado yun, pano kung nagkaproblema flight mo diba.

IslanderndCity

@wizardofOz walang problema yun sir... yung katropa ko after IED bumalik sya mga 1wk before bago mag expire visa nya. pero yun nga, nung nag apply na sya ng citzenship, nirequire sya ng panibagong NBI clearance.

medyo weird. he applied for Au PR pero after initial entry, outside Au lang siya for almost 4 years. any impact nito sa citizenship application nya po?

icebreaker1928

@IslanderndCity wala bukod sa nirequire ulit sya ng nbi clearance, citizen na sya ngayon.
IMO it's not weird kung wala ka pa talagang bala para tumira sa Oz then ipon muna sa labas, kesa maging pabigat ka pa sa kanila, mas pabor sa Oz govt yun.

wizardofOz

i think that's also one of the purpose kaya 5 years ang validity ng PR visa... so we can freely move.

Oz is expecting that in a span of 5 years your still "settling-in” (nag-iipon, inaayos ang pamilya, etc..), then after that period you will be staying for good until you acquire citizenship

PogingNoypi

@wizardofOz basta nakapag IED ka na, hindi ka na hingan ulit ng NBI kung balik oz ka...pero once nag-apply ka na ng Citizenship, hingan ka ulit ng NBI at maari rin na hingan ka ng parang equivalent ng NBI kung saang bansa ka man namalagi... baka kako may nagawa kang krimen sa bansa na yun hehehe...

You need penal clearance certificates from overseas countries if:

you lived or travelled overseas since the age of 18 years or over, and
the total time spent overseas added up to 12 months or more, and
the time spent in any one country was more than 90 days, or
you are requested to do so by the department.
Provide a penal clearance certificate from every country that you spent more than 90 days in.

ChidoRodgers

@wizardofOz basta nakapag IED ka na, hindi ka na hingan ulit ng NBI kung balik oz ka...pero once nag-apply ka na ng Citizenship, hingan ka ulit ng NBI at maari rin na hingan ka ng parang equivalent ng NBI kung saang bansa ka man namalagi... baka kako may nagawa kang krimen sa bansa na yun hehehe...

You need penal clearance certificates from overseas countries if:

you lived or travelled overseas since the age of 18 years or over, and
the total time spent overseas added up to 12 months or more, and
the time spent in any one country was more than 90 days, or
you are requested to do so by the department.
Provide a penal clearance certificate from every country that you spent more than 90 days in.

are you referring sa mga nagaapply ng citizenship o sa mga citizens na mismo? tnx pre

kangarookoala

Good day! I hope may maka answer. Next year pwdi na akong mag apply for citizenship been in au for 4 years na by then i only go home for holidays (in a year i go home mga 3x..salamat cebu pacific!) hahahaha! Yung family ko p.r.na rin since and in and out lng sila in au kasi hubby has work sa pinas so nasa kanya ung kids. D pa kasi ma ewan ung work eh.
We know si hubby hindi mag qualify for citizenship next yr kasi hindi sya naka stay in au for a year. But for the kids... Age 6 and 8... Can i include them in my application for citizenship kahit wala sila in au like in a year sometimes they come mga 2x if school holiday sa pinas to visit me.
Ako din primary applicant sa p.r visa namin.
What do they look for sa citizenship application?
Binasa ko ung sa immigration and sa understanding ko if below 18 y.o. Pwdi ko sla ma inclue kasi dependents ko sila. Would like to know if may input kayo with regards to this situation. Thanks!

JCsantos

But for the kids... Age 6 and 8... Can i include them in my application for citizenship kahit wala sila in au like in a year sometimes they come mga 2x if school holiday sa pinas to visit me.

yes from what I know, sinama ko kasi sa application yung anak ko pero inde nya na satisfy yung 2 year residency ( 2 years lang ang requirement noon )

kangarookoala

@JCsantos clarify ko lng po.. So na grant naman citizenship ng kids nyo kahit hindi nila na satisfy yung requirement na 2 yrs. ? So ok lng isama sa application? Thank you sa input!
Currently, 1 year in au lng as pr yung residency requirement prior to eligibility.
Yan kasi main concern ko if the kids who are in pinas can also get citizenship. I know on my own i can satisfy whatever requirement that would be asked. If pwdi naman ma include yung mga kids mas mabuti if not then as early as now dapat nandito na sila pero ang hirap kasi full time ako working and 2 school age kids will not be easy in au on my own.

JCsantos

Yes na grantan sya, yes isama mo sya sa application mo

icebreaker1928

But for the kids... Age 6 and 8... Can i include them in my application for citizenship kahit wala sila in au like in a year sometimes they come mga 2x if school holiday sa pinas to visit me.

you can do that, but I believe there are complications.

1. Pag naging AU citizen sila, matik hindi na sila Pinoy.
2. They cannot use their PH passport when entering Oz again, since they are already Oz citizen.
3. Pero wala silang Oz passport.
4. You can apply for Australian passport for them but again I don't know how hard or easy it would be.

Ito sabi sa nasusulat, basa...

People trying to enter Australia as an Australian citizen but without an Australian passport face difficulties and delays. The Australian Passport Office provides more information.

http://www.citizenship.gov.au/current/travel/


If I were you, I would suggest, kung magiging citizen ka na at mga anak mo, bago ka manumpa o kung anuman, papuntahin mo muna sila sa Oz. Pag citizen na kayo, apply kayo ng Oz passport. Then apply dual tapos balik Pinas.

Disclaimer: Hindi po ako abugado or migration agent. Better consult a professional para maliwanagan ng husto.
Goodluck.

kangarookoala

Thanks sa mga input. Ok noted. i will figure out paano ung passport kung anuman i think we can manage a month or 2 here in au while waiting for passport or decision. Basta importante masama ko sila sa application. Salamat uli!;)

IslanderndCity

i think that's also one of the purpose kaya 5 years ang validity ng PR visa... so we can freely move.

Oz is expecting that in a span of 5 years your still "settling-in” (nag-iipon, inaayos ang pamilya, etc..), then after that period you will be staying for good until you acquire citizenship

but I understand this will delay your citizenship dahil may residency requirements po. sa sample mentioned by icebreaker kasi, after IED, umalis sa Au, then bumalik sa Au noong 1 week nalang bago mag-expire ang 5-year PR visa niya

wizardofOz

i think that's also one of the purpose kaya 5 years ang validity ng PR visa... so we can freely move.

Oz is expecting that in a span of 5 years your still "settling-in” (nag-iipon, inaayos ang pamilya, etc..), then after that period you will be staying for good until you acquire citizenship

but I understand this will delay your citizenship dahil may residency requirements po. sa sample mentioned by icebreaker kasi, after IED, umalis sa Au, then bumalik sa Au noong 1 week nalang bago mag-expire ang 5-year PR visa niya

Yes, its kind of pushing-out your eligibility to apply for citizenship..

Pero the way I see it is more of, you are losing your "benefit" of still being able to enter/exit multiple times (should not exceed more than 12 months cumulative) without needing an RRV, while satisfying the residency requirement of the citizenship application...

After ng PR visa expiration, sa loob ng 4 years that you are satisfying the residency requirement, need pa ng RRV kung lalabas ng Oz..