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Inquiry: Initial Entry w/o Primary Applicant.

rbolanterbolante North RydePosts: 247Member
edited July 2012 in Other Migration Topic
Good day.

I just have a question about initial entry without the primary applicant.
I was just given a grant recently and I'm thinking about my boy's schooling as I heard classes there start on September.
The dilemma I have is I still cannot resign from my current employer til October this year coz of a bond (business trip).

Is this possible or kelangan ko po talaga kasama ako na mag-initial entry with my dependents?

Thank a lot in advance for your replies. :)

Skilled – Family Sponsored (Subclass 176)
Software Programmer (261313)

05/03/2012 - Lodged visa application (Online)
06/07/2012 - CO allocated/Medicals requested
06/11/2012 - Medical exam at NHSI
06/28/2012 - PCCs submitted
07/03/2012 - Health requirements finalised
07/13/2012 - Visa granted (IED: 06/19/2013)

Thanks be to God!!! :D

Comments

  • lock_code2004lock_code2004 Perth
    Posts: 5,037Member, De-activated
    Joined: Feb 23, 2012
    Hi @rbolante: your question has been answered in this thread:

    http://www.pinoyau.info/discussion/605/475-visa_-secondary-applicant#Item_11

    In summary: Entry without the primary applicant is NOT possible/allowed.

    Sep 24, 2011 - IELTS (L-8 R-8 W-8 S-7.5 : OBS-8)
    Jan 04, 2012 - EA application submitted | Feb 23, 2012 - EA assessment result (IE ANZSCO 233511)
    May 8, 2012 - Lodged GSM 175 online application | June 4, 2012 - CO Allocated
    June 22, 2012 - Medicals Finalized | Aug 30, 2012 - PCCs Completed (PH, UAE, USA)
    Sep 3, 2012 - Visa Granted (IED Jun 11, 2013) Thank You Lord!
    Oct 16-28, 2012 - Initial Entry Completed - Sydney
    July 28, 2013 - Final move to Perth
    Sep 9, 2013 - Started work with the same company i worked for in UAE/USA
    Oct 28, 2013 - Moved to another company.. ;)

  • stolich18stolich18 Sydney
    Posts: 993Member
    Joined: Feb 15, 2012
    ^What if may initial entry na lahat tapos ung secondary applicant kelangan bumalik sa AU without the primary? hehhe allowed na ba un? :)

    261313 (Software Engineer)

    Feb.15.2012 - started working on ACS requirements
    Mar.02.2012 - submitted online ACS application and sent documents to ACS via Fedex
    Mar.05.2012 - ACS acknowledged actual documents
    Mar.21.2012 - ACS finalised assessment: Suitable
    Mar.31.2012 - IELTS exam with BC
    Apr.13.2012 - IELTS Results (L:8.5 R:7 W: 7 S: 8 OB: 7.5) Thank you LORD!
    Apr.14.2012 - Lodged 175 Online Application
    Apr.20.2012 - Completed Online Attachments
    May.24.2012 - "Application being processed further"
    May.29.2012 - CO Assigned :-)
    Jun.07.2012 - Uploaded NBI Clearance
    Jun.13.2012 - Medical/Health Requirements Finalised
    Jun.14.2012 - VISA GRANT! Thank you, LORD! :-)
    Jun.07.2013 - Initial Entry Date Deadline
    Apr.28.2013 - Initial Entry (Sydney)
    Jun.28.2013 - Verbal Job Offer (Melbourne)
    Jul.08.2013 - First day of Work and first day of child care for my son (Melbourne)
    Aug.21.2013 - First day of Work in Sydney

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  • SilhouetteSilhouette Sydney
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    Joined: May 10, 2012
    pwede na po yun basta sa initial entry dapat nauna ang main
  • hotshothotshot Sydney
    Posts: 1,643Member
    Joined: Nov 10, 2011
    @rbolante : baka pwede pong samahan nyo na lang po muna sila kahit saglit lang para ma-enroll sa school ang kid nyo. yun nga lang po....mas magastos yun.

    Occupation: Analyst Programmer (ANZSCO Code 261311)
    May 21 2012 - lodged visa 176 (NSW) online application
    May 30 2012 - CO allocation
    Jul 16 2012 - Visa Granted! (IED Deadline: May 16, 2013)
    Jan 19 2013 - Arrived in Sydney
    Jan 20 2013 - Started our job hunt
    Mar 11 2013 - Officially became a "HOUSE-BAND" :)
    Apr 22 2013 - End of my "HOUSE-BAND" career :)

  • rbolanterbolante North Ryde
    Posts: 247Member
    Joined: Jul 05, 2012
    thanks a lot po sa mga replies nyo mga sir. :-D

    sabi ng sis-in-law ko na andun di naman daw pala ganun ka-strict pag pre-school pa lang ang bata so kahit kalagitnaan na ng pasukan pwede pa din pumasok unlike pag grade school na dun na kelangan sasabay talaga sa formal start ng classes. btw, my son is just 4 years old.

    cge po sir thanks for information ulit this really helps. :-)

    Skilled – Family Sponsored (Subclass 176)
    Software Programmer (261313)

    05/03/2012 - Lodged visa application (Online)
    06/07/2012 - CO allocated/Medicals requested
    06/11/2012 - Medical exam at NHSI
    06/28/2012 - PCCs submitted
    07/03/2012 - Health requirements finalised
    07/13/2012 - Visa granted (IED: 06/19/2013)

    Thanks be to God!!! :D

  • stolich18stolich18 Sydney
    Posts: 993Member
    Joined: Feb 15, 2012
    thanks @silhouette! :)

    261313 (Software Engineer)

    Feb.15.2012 - started working on ACS requirements
    Mar.02.2012 - submitted online ACS application and sent documents to ACS via Fedex
    Mar.05.2012 - ACS acknowledged actual documents
    Mar.21.2012 - ACS finalised assessment: Suitable
    Mar.31.2012 - IELTS exam with BC
    Apr.13.2012 - IELTS Results (L:8.5 R:7 W: 7 S: 8 OB: 7.5) Thank you LORD!
    Apr.14.2012 - Lodged 175 Online Application
    Apr.20.2012 - Completed Online Attachments
    May.24.2012 - "Application being processed further"
    May.29.2012 - CO Assigned :-)
    Jun.07.2012 - Uploaded NBI Clearance
    Jun.13.2012 - Medical/Health Requirements Finalised
    Jun.14.2012 - VISA GRANT! Thank you, LORD! :-)
    Jun.07.2013 - Initial Entry Date Deadline
    Apr.28.2013 - Initial Entry (Sydney)
    Jun.28.2013 - Verbal Job Offer (Melbourne)
    Jul.08.2013 - First day of Work and first day of child care for my son (Melbourne)
    Aug.21.2013 - First day of Work in Sydney

    "Great is the LORD and most worthy of praise; his greatness no one can fathom." Psalm 145:3

  • chuellachuella Iligan City
    Posts: 41Member
    Joined: Oct 17, 2012
    Question po sa mga 189/190 visa grantees with secondary applicants: Nakaspecify pa ba sa secondary applicant's visa condition na they must travel with or after the primary applicant? Ang alam ko sa visa 175/175 meron.

    Thanks in advance..

    Occupation: Developer Programmer
    Lodge Visa 189: January 28, 2013
    CO: March 20, 2013 (Team 33 Brisbane, CO Initials DC)
    Grant: March 25, 2013

  • lock_code2004lock_code2004 Perth
    Posts: 5,037Member, De-activated
    Joined: Feb 23, 2012
    @chuella - regardless of visa type, that will always be a condition of entry for all secondary applicants..

    Sep 24, 2011 - IELTS (L-8 R-8 W-8 S-7.5 : OBS-8)
    Jan 04, 2012 - EA application submitted | Feb 23, 2012 - EA assessment result (IE ANZSCO 233511)
    May 8, 2012 - Lodged GSM 175 online application | June 4, 2012 - CO Allocated
    June 22, 2012 - Medicals Finalized | Aug 30, 2012 - PCCs Completed (PH, UAE, USA)
    Sep 3, 2012 - Visa Granted (IED Jun 11, 2013) Thank You Lord!
    Oct 16-28, 2012 - Initial Entry Completed - Sydney
    July 28, 2013 - Final move to Perth
    Sep 9, 2013 - Started work with the same company i worked for in UAE/USA
    Oct 28, 2013 - Moved to another company.. ;)

  • chuellachuella Iligan City
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    Joined: Oct 17, 2012
    @lock_code2004 - Thanks po sa reply!

    Occupation: Developer Programmer
    Lodge Visa 189: January 28, 2013
    CO: March 20, 2013 (Team 33 Brisbane, CO Initials DC)
    Grant: March 25, 2013

  • dakzdakz Adelaide
    Posts: 123Member
    Joined: Sep 29, 2012
    @lock_code2004 saan po sa visa grant to makikita na d pwd mauna ang secondary applicant? Plan kasi namin na c hubby mauuna tapos xa ung dependent. Wla kasi nka lagay sa visa condition namin. :)

    Jan 2014 - IED

    Thank you Lord :)

  • NadineNadine Brisbane
    Posts: 481Member
    Joined: Dec 15, 2012
    edited July 2013
    Sa pagkakaintindi ko, hindi magiging "IN EFFECT" ang visa without entry of the primary applicant.

    This is logical actually kung iisipin natin. Kasi, ang migrant na nabigyan ng visa ay ang primary. Without whom, there is no visa. Also, pag hindi pa nag-entry, hindi pa active ang visa. Pwede pa eto ma-revoke/expired.

    21 Dec 2012 - 457 lodged
    7 Jan 2013 - medical finalised
    8 Jan 2013 - visa approved

  • lock_code2004lock_code2004 Perth
    Posts: 5,037Member, De-activated
    Joined: Feb 23, 2012
    edited July 2013
    @lock_code2004 saan po sa visa grant to makikita na d pwd mauna ang secondary applicant? Plan kasi namin na c hubby mauuna tapos xa ung dependent. Wla kasi nka lagay sa visa condition namin. :)
    Dun sa visa grant, eto nakalagay:
    Secondary Applicant: __
    Date of Birth: __
    Other infos:__
    "VISA CONDITIONS: 8502"

    Tapos sa 2nd page, nakalagay ang mga definition ng VISA CONDITIONS:

    First entry date: You must make your first entry to Australia before XXXX . It is not possible to change this date.

    8502 - Must not enter Australia before specified person:The holder of the visa must not enter Australia before the entry to Australia of a person specified in the visa.

    So kung walang nakalagay na ganyan sa visa nyo, i guess walang conditions na hindi pwedeng mauna ang secondary.. to be sure, you can enquire with your CO ;)

    Sep 24, 2011 - IELTS (L-8 R-8 W-8 S-7.5 : OBS-8)
    Jan 04, 2012 - EA application submitted | Feb 23, 2012 - EA assessment result (IE ANZSCO 233511)
    May 8, 2012 - Lodged GSM 175 online application | June 4, 2012 - CO Allocated
    June 22, 2012 - Medicals Finalized | Aug 30, 2012 - PCCs Completed (PH, UAE, USA)
    Sep 3, 2012 - Visa Granted (IED Jun 11, 2013) Thank You Lord!
    Oct 16-28, 2012 - Initial Entry Completed - Sydney
    July 28, 2013 - Final move to Perth
    Sep 9, 2013 - Started work with the same company i worked for in UAE/USA
    Oct 28, 2013 - Moved to another company.. ;)

  • dakzdakz Adelaide
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    Joined: Sep 29, 2012
    @Nadine @lock_code2004 salamat po. Pgdating po ba sa australia wla na ba maraming tanong sa immig officer? Basta mapakita lng ung passport at visa grant mo?

    Jan 2014 - IED

    Thank you Lord :)

  • lock_code2004lock_code2004 Perth
    Posts: 5,037Member, De-activated
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    @dakz - wala naman..
    actually passport nga lang ang hiningi, kasi may record nmn sila ng visa grant nyo..

    make sure also na properly filled-up yung passenger card...

    Sep 24, 2011 - IELTS (L-8 R-8 W-8 S-7.5 : OBS-8)
    Jan 04, 2012 - EA application submitted | Feb 23, 2012 - EA assessment result (IE ANZSCO 233511)
    May 8, 2012 - Lodged GSM 175 online application | June 4, 2012 - CO Allocated
    June 22, 2012 - Medicals Finalized | Aug 30, 2012 - PCCs Completed (PH, UAE, USA)
    Sep 3, 2012 - Visa Granted (IED Jun 11, 2013) Thank You Lord!
    Oct 16-28, 2012 - Initial Entry Completed - Sydney
    July 28, 2013 - Final move to Perth
    Sep 9, 2013 - Started work with the same company i worked for in UAE/USA
    Oct 28, 2013 - Moved to another company.. ;)

  • JCsantosJCsantos Sydney
    Posts: 1,416Member, Moderator
    Joined: Jan 11, 2011
    @Nadine @lock_code2004 salamat po. Pgdating po ba sa australia wla na ba maraming tanong sa immig officer? Basta mapakita lng ung passport at visa grant mo?
    Tatanungin nila kung kilala mo c jcsantos pag sinasabi mong inde, inde ka papapasukin

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  • dakzdakz Adelaide
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    Salamat ulit sir @lock_code2004 :)
    Ang kulit mo sir @JCsantos haha :p

    Jan 2014 - IED

    Thank you Lord :)

  • KithelpotKithelpot Sydney
    Posts: 38Member
    Joined: Mar 09, 2014
    Hi :)

    I can't find any thread related to my query kaya dito na po ako napapost. I have been granted a PR visa recently. I'm still deciding whether to have my first entry before or after I get married this December. Will there be any problem if magfirst entry ako after I get married? Or may kailangan lang akong isubmit na form to notify yung DIAC about my change in status? Thank you.

  • IslanderndCityIslanderndCity Adelaide
    Posts: 2,274Member, Moderator
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    @lock_code2004 saan po sa visa grant to makikita na d pwd mauna ang secondary applicant? Plan kasi namin na c hubby mauuna tapos xa ung dependent. Wla kasi nka lagay sa visa condition namin. :)
    Dun sa visa grant, eto nakalagay:
    Secondary Applicant: __
    Date of Birth: __
    Other infos:__
    "VISA CONDITIONS: 8502"

    Tapos sa 2nd page, nakalagay ang mga definition ng VISA CONDITIONS:

    First entry date: You must make your first entry to Australia before XXXX . It is not possible to change this date.

    8502 - Must not enter Australia before specified person:The holder of the visa must not enter Australia before the entry to Australia of a person specified in the visa.

    So kung walang nakalagay na ganyan sa visa nyo, i guess walang conditions na hindi pwedeng mauna ang secondary.. to be sure, you can enquire with your CO ;)
    may kakilala din kami na nauna ang secondary. sumunod ang primary 3~4 months after. wala naman sila naging problem sa initial entry nila

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  • dhey_almightydhey_almighty Perth
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    @IslanderndCity sir, ung kakilala niyong pumasok na secondary applicant nakapag initial entry na po ba sila before?
    also, as in walang question ung immigration regarding sa primary applicant kung asan or kelan ang punta ng oz?
    thanks

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  • dhey_almightydhey_almighty Perth
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    @IslanderndCity sir, ung kakilala niyong pumasok na secondary applicant nakapag initial entry na po ba sila before?
    also, as in walang question ung immigration regarding sa primary applicant kung asan or kelan ang punta ng oz?
    thanks

    October 6, 2012 - Passed IELTS - Academic (W 6 S 6 L 8 R 7 OBS 7.0) pwde na yan!
    October 16, 2012 - Submitted CDR to EA
    February 27, 2013 - Received Favorable letter from EA (Mechanical Engineer - ANZSCO 233512) Thank you Lord!
    March 8, 2013 - Applied WA SS
    March 25, 2013 - Received Letter for WA SS (delaying/maximising 28 days; waiting for civil wedding)
    May 31, 2013 - Submitted Visa Application (with everything; PCC Saudi, NBI, Marriage certificate, etc)
    July 11, 2013 - CO Assigned / Team 7 Adelaide
    August 17, 2013 - Done with the Medicals
    September 4, 2013 - Visa Grant (Subclass 190 / ANZCO233515 - Mechanical Engineer) Thank you Lord! / IED August 23, 2014
    August 8, 2014 - Flight to Oz, No turning Back, This is it!
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  • IslanderndCityIslanderndCity Adelaide
    Posts: 2,274Member, Moderator
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    @dhey_almighty I'm not sure as to the question details, pero sabi niya, walang problema. initial entry po so it means first entry pa po ni secondary applicant sa Au

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    grabe @lock_code2004 memorize mga topics posted :)

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  • batmanbatman Darwin Australia
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    @Nadine @lock_code2004 salamat po. Pgdating po ba sa australia wla na ba maraming tanong sa immig officer? Basta mapakita lng ung passport at visa grant mo?
    Tatanungin nila kung kilala mo c jcsantos pag sinasabi mong inde, inde ka papapasukin

    haha!

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    20|09|17 - EOI 190 - NT (delayed due to show money req.)
    - collating requirements for NT SS application
    18|10|17 - Submitted NT SS application (praying for + result)
    24|04|18 - 190 not successful,
    - was offered 489 instead and accepted the offer
    - engaged with visa consort agency for visa application submission.
    26|04|18 - Invited to apply for SS visa 489 - Northern Territory
    02|05|18 - PCC processing
    20|05|18 - Medical
    06|06|18 - Visa payment
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  • jkk32wjkk32w Melbourne
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    hello..need to clarify again pls..if walang nakalagay na condition 8502..pwde mauna ang dependant sa main applicant sa initial entry?? please share if any of u po did this.

    thank u so much po!

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  • JCsantosJCsantos Sydney
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    hello..need to clarify again pls..if walang nakalagay na condition 8502..pwde mauna ang dependant sa main applicant sa initial entry?? please share if any of u po did this.

    thank u so much po!


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