Bakit Ganun? Nakaka Frustrate! Ayaw ba talaga ng mga recruiters sa mga bago?

enxym · October 2014

Hi. I'm Marc. I've been here in Oz for three months. Within the three months I have been busy sending my resume to possible employees on my field (Pharma / Food). Whenever I see a phone number on a job role posted lets say in Seek, I call them. I ask them if the job position is available to people with valid Visas (I have a 476 visa by the way). They ask "If you have local experience". I always say na "Yes, I'm into trades" (which is unrelated to the scientific experience that I have... Pambayad lang ba sa gastusin ganun). Ang nakakainis is that they always say that they are looking for people with local experience on that certain field (eg. QA Analyst, Lab Chemist) ganun. Haaay. If they won't give chances to foreigners, how can they prove themselves? Take note: I've been applying for both contract and temporary roles. Kung may kakilala lang sana ako sa loob ng isang Pharma or Food company nagpa simpleng "ipasok mo naman ako jan oh" that people usually do here. LOL. Can you share your job seeking experience. Or anything. I just needed to vent out my frustration. Bahaha!

dhey_almighty · October 2014

naku kapatid...hinde ka nagiisa...mag two months na rin ako dito...at talagang nakaka frustrate maghanap ng work...dito ako sa WA and i am a mechanical engineer...super dami ko na rin pinasahan na CV at tinawagan, lahat sabi e hinde daw ukol ang experience ko sa job posting nila (even though ang power plant experience e very broad experience at sakop na niya pati ang processing plant etc)

**ung iba naman e nanghihingi ng certain certificates na base dito sa Oz para makapasok sa job posting nila...okay na sana kaso p*tah ang mahal ng mga certifications...

**i am still crossing my fingers and i am not losing my hope dito sa Australia...napapaisip na kase akong bumalik ng middle east at in-demand kame dun! haha

***dont lose hope brod...ganyan talaga...we are integrating e, bago lang tayo dito at we need to be more resilient...

enxym · October 2014

Pareng @dhey_almighty . Tama ka we need to be resilient. Or if you are not naturally resilient, you will be forced to be resilient. Hindi ko lang talaga siguro kinaya kaya I vented this out. Meron pa nga na ibang recruiter na ayaw kang tanggapin dahil "You have a work limitation, your visa expires after 18 months". Me internally, "Huh? lahat naman ng Visa may expiration ha. Sinasabi ko nga sa friend ko na Aussie to and she says "They're crazy". Salamat sa pag reply. It feels good that you are not alone. Haha

dhey_almighty · October 2014

@enxym tama ka brad...meron talagang recruiter na biased or may discrimination...though malaking factor pa rin na PR ka na...

just put yourself into their shoes, kumikita ang mga recruiter pag nakapagpasok sila ng employee sa isang company...wag na lang natin pansinin at ganun talaga sila...

for now be thankful at may job ka...saka mo na lng isipin ung sa field mo talaga at darating naman yan...ang mahalaga e ur surviving :-)

**actually, ive been thinking narin of a career change, ika nga e kung saan dadalhin ng tadhana...i can do alot of things naman at hinde naman ako namimili ng work...kung ano ang ibigay sa akin ni Lord, e bukal sa loob kong tangapin...

***wag kang panghinaan ng loob, just enjoy what you are doing right now and have more faith in Him... :-)

TotoyOZresident · October 2014

Hi. I'm Marc. I've been here in Oz for three months. Within the three months I have been busy sending my resume to possible employees on my field (Pharma / Food). Whenever I see a phone number on a job role posted lets say in Seek, I call them. I ask them if the job position is available to people with valid Visas (I have a 476 visa by the way). They ask "If you have local experience". I always say na "Yes, I'm into trades" (which is unrelated to the scientific experience that I have... Pambayad lang ba sa gastusin ganun). Ang nakakainis is that they always say that they are looking for people with local experience on that certain field (eg. QA Analyst, Lab Chemist) ganun. Haaay. If they won't give chances to foreigners, how can they prove themselves? Take note: I've been applying for both contract and temporary roles. Kung may kakilala lang sana ako sa loob ng isang Pharma or Food company nagpa simpleng "ipasok mo naman ako jan oh" that people usually do here. LOL. Can you share your job seeking experience. Or anything. I just needed to vent out my frustration. Bahaha!

Pasensya kana pero bihira palakasan dito hindi ito ulad ng Pinas. May referral but dont expect na tangap kana agad. Dadaan ka pa rin sa proseso dipende sa qualification mo. Puede pa ciguro kung odd job puede pakiusapan pero kung skills malabo. Tyempo tyempuhan ang paghanap ng work staka na tyempuhan mo na sa taon na ito eh nagka recession, nag election at may negative news about sa middle east. kaya lumya ang economy. Marami din naman nagtatangalan dito dipende sa klase ng trabaho. Dahil October na at malapit na ang December malamang kaunti ang job opening ngayun. Pero cgurado yan next year marami ang job hiring. Tyaga tyga ka muna at mag self research kung anu ang tamang gawin. Good luck. cheers

dhey_almighty · October 2014

@TotoyOZresident tumpak!

mas mahirap daw ngayon ang Australia...compared sa last recession nila..mas iba daw ngayon...tsk

parang wrong timing nga ang pagpunta namin dito pero still we are optimistic sa panibagong buhay dito sa oz...

may referrals pero hinde ka pa rin nakakasigurado na tanggap ka na sa job...at wag kang umasa sa mga referrals...mas maganda kung sariling sikap pa rin para mas matamis ang tagumpay! haha tagay na! haha

since may work ka na naman, magconcentrate ka na muna dyan...think of a ways to improve urself...kuha ka na rin ng "tickets" or "Certificates" to bolster your marketability ika nga... :-) then pag time na ikaw na mismo ang pipili ng work :-) but syempre, stay humble pa rin... :-)

enxym · October 2014

Nabuhayan ako ng dugo dun ah. Oo nga @dhey_almighty. panalo yung matamis na tagumpay mo brad. Tagaaay (kahit hindi ako umiinom. LOL). Regarding referrals on skilled workers. I have 2 friends (new here in Oz) who were just referred kaya nakapasok. Both are also engineers pero naiba ang direction from their original industries sa Pinas. Parang I'll stick to what @totoyozresident said na wag umasa sa referrals. Based on what happened to them, parang ayoko umalis sa Pharma field. Passion ko kasi ang gamot. Yung tipong kahit matutulog ka na iniisip mo pa rin sila (oo na weird). Pero dito kasi you don't get to be choosy lalo na sa Visa ko na kailangan makahanap ng engineering job within 6 months and stay there for a year to apply for a 489 visa. Just what I always say... "Bathala na!"

dhey_almighty · October 2014

@enxym hehe...san ka bro? dito ka rin sa WA?

swerte lang nung 2 friends mo...ganun talaga at least may work na sila kahit hinde nila field or something...basta ang mahalaga e may job ka... :-)

ahh, regional pala ung 489..hehe now ko lang nalaman...so bale sa province ka lang pwede mag work? okay nga un, sabi kase nila mas mababait daw ang mga Aussie sa mga province...hehe :-)

enxym · October 2014

Wait. may mali sa visa number ko. I think its not 489. Balikan kita @dhey_almighty. Im at Sydney now. Factor din dito na maraming skilled workers ang nandito kaya mahirap maghanap ng work.

enxym · October 2014

489 nga. hehe

dhey_almighty · October 2014

haha check mo na rin yung visa condition ng visa mo...:-)

J_Oz · October 2014

Ngayon palang nababasa ko tong mga ganito parang nakakatakot talaga. Pano kaya ako, nasa late twenties palang tas mukang totoy pa, seryosohin kaya nila ako dyan kung sakaling magkavisa ako hahaha...

Anyway, God will always provide. I always hold on to his promise, Jer. 29:11. Hintay hintay lang daw

angelwheng · October 2014

@enxym ano pong field of study mo? adelaide bound naman kami ng family ko next year. Chemist ako dito sa Pinas QA/QC and R&D ang main duties ko pero same with you wala akong local experience sa field ko. Im still setting my hopes high pa rin but lessen my expectation. There's no turning back for me and my family once umalis kami. Believe na magkakaron din tayo ng work.

Room4Rent · October 2014

Iba-iba ang kwento ng bawat isa saten, although marami sa mga nakukwento ay d gaanong maganda ang naging experience eh marami rin nmn hindi na nahirapan. Dalawa sa kaibigan ko, after 2 months na-paghahanap ng trabaho ay permanent agad ang bagsak at don pa sa trabaho sa line of work nila sa Pinas, Architect at Accounting sila. Aku nmn, after 1 month nakahanap aku ng 10 weeks contract as a Network Engineer then after nung contract naging sunud-sunod nmn ang mga interviews ko at ngaun permanent employee na rin aku.

So sana noh wag kayo mawalan ng pag-asa, Australia is a beautiful country at hindi nyo pagsisisihan ang pagpunta nyo rito.

enxym · October 2014

I knew na kailangan ko balikan tong post ko na to. GUYS! After 1 week ng pagpost ko nito I had an interview inline with my field. Guess what, I was hired. The initial post was a temporary contract but the hiring manager needed the technical background that I had (Validations Engineer kasi ako sa Pinas) so she made the position permanent. After 3 months I got an Engineering job! Wuhoo!!! Learning experience, I think the Lord just broke me to the point of total surrender. Ganun naman ang diyos. Hinahayaan nya na may mangyari satin upang matuto tayo na magtiwala sa kanya. BTW. Hindi 489 yung Visa na aapplyan ko next year. its 189 directly. :-)

TotoyOZresident · October 2014

I knew na kailangan ko balikan tong post ko na to. GUYS! After 1 week ng pagpost ko nito I had an interview inline with my field. Guess what, I was hired. The initial post was a temporary contract but the hiring manager needed the technical background that I had (Validations Engineer kasi ako sa Pinas) so she made the position permanent. After 3 months I got an Engineering job! Wuhoo!!! Learning experience, I think the Lord just broke me to the point of total surrender. Ganun naman ang diyos. Hinahayaan nya na may mangyari satin upang matuto tayo na magtiwala sa kanya. BTW. Hindi 489 yung Visa na aapplyan ko next year. its 189 directly. :-)

Well done enxym.. God bless

bookworm · October 2014

@enxym congrats!

JCsantos · October 2014

I knew na kailangan ko balikan tong post ko na to. GUYS! After 1 week ng pagpost ko nito I had an interview inline with my field. Guess what, I was hired. The initial post was a temporary contract but the hiring manager needed the technical background that I had (Validations Engineer kasi ako sa Pinas) so she made the position permanent. After 3 months I got an Engineering job! Wuhoo!!! Learning experience, I think the Lord just broke me to the point of total surrender. Ganun naman ang diyos. Hinahayaan nya na may mangyari satin upang matuto tayo na magtiwala sa kanya. BTW. Hindi 489 yung Visa na aapplyan ko next year. its 189 directly. :-)

Amen!

dhey_almighty · October 2014

@enxym Congrats Brader!

Amen to that! :-)

RuChe · November 2014

Wow congrats! Nakaka-inspire naman. Wala talagang impossible ke God.

wizardofOz · November 2014

@enxym galing congrats!

btw, validation engineer, sa electronics field ba sya? saang state/city ka pala?

goreo · November 2014

galing ni Lord! Congrats!

SYD_CPA · December 2014

Husay mo brad.. ako din idol syd. Pang 2nd month ko hanap work in accounting. I got a 189 visa.

my sharing ia that if you got some funds go to seminars like general assembly.com 35aud lng naman and wont break the nank that much. Pero its so great kasi you can learn so much na d mo makukuha sa pinas. Sampol. Data science. Ang lupet mo na ciguro kung maging data scientist ka.

Lastly in checking out how to be a cafe allrounder or a bar staff. Experience yun to interact with aussies para tou could be more confident.

IslanderndCity · December 2014

I knew na kailangan ko balikan tong post ko na to. GUYS! After 1 week ng pagpost ko nito I had an interview inline with my field. Guess what, I was hired. The initial post was a temporary contract but the hiring manager needed the technical background that I had (Validations Engineer kasi ako sa Pinas) so she made the position permanent. After 3 months I got an Engineering job! Wuhoo!!! Learning experience, I think the Lord just broke me to the point of total surrender. Ganun naman ang diyos. Hinahayaan nya na may mangyari satin upang matuto tayo na magtiwala sa kanya. BTW. Hindi 489 yung Visa na aapplyan ko next year. its 189 directly. :-)

wow! lonely-teary story turns into a happy ending

multitasking · December 2014

@enxym .. congrats... tuloy tuloy na yan... =D>

adenosaur · January 2015

@J_Oz Tama. Keep praying

May mga kakilala akong success story na nakakuha ng offer bago pa makapunta ng australia na yun talaga field nila. Busy lang para makapagshare ng stories nila.

ozsomelayp · January 2015

tyaga tyaga lang brod! pasasaan ba at may matitisod ka ring recruiter

share ko lang, ako nga may US experience pa, pero parang deadma sa kanila yun..mas gusto talaga nila yung Aussie experience... tyaga lang, tapos samahan mo ng maraming dasal!

good vibes yan 2015!

yela4137 · January 2015

@enxym, congrats

sana ako din pagnaapprove na yung visa ko sa australia makahanap din ako ng work kahit wala pa masyadong experience

question: binabalak ko na kumuha ng autodesk certified professional certification just to increase my skills habang nasa Phils pa ako, makakatulong kaya yun sa australia?

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