Australian Computer Society Skills Application

mmm_85 · October 2014

@J_Oz @gerardds Ah ok gets. So if i-consider nila as non-ICT ang course ko, pwede na kaya yung 6 years experience ko? (4yrs BA + 2yrs PM + RPL) since may Project Management din naman na skills ang required from a BA? What do you think? Mahirap ba na route yung may RPL?

mmm_85 · October 2014

@Xiaomau82 Ok thanks.. Yun nga din naisip ko eh, since nasa SOL ang BA/SA. And yung PM nasa CSOL (needs sponsorship).

J_Oz · October 2014

@mmm_85 sabi sa ACS dapat daw relevant work experience.

The term “Relevant work experience” means work experience which is closely related to the nominated
occupation (ANZSCO) and performed at a professional ICT level.

You may want to check yong requirements for Business Analyst.

eto kinuha ko dun sa ACS Guideline

4 – Recognition of Prior Learning – (RPL)
The RPL application is for applicants with Non ICT or insufficient ICT qualifications, or do not hold any
tertiary ICT qualifications.

6 years of full time professional ICT work experience in a field closely related to the nominated ANZSCO
Code is required if you hold a Non ICT or insufficient ICT qualification and 8 years if you do not have any
qualifications.

You are required to submit 2 Project Reports for an RPL application - ACS Project Report Form (RPL).

Each report must provide a detailed description of a career episode in your employment history with
sufficient detail of evidence in applying the claimed knowledge in a working situation.

Ensure you sign the “Declaration of Authorship” when completing the project report.
The Recognition of Prior Learning Project Report must be entirely your own work and not submitted by
another person, a paid writing business or editing agency.

All quoted or paraphrased material must be clearly referenced and all sources noted in the Project
Report.

Failure to disclose information include in the Project Report that is NOT your own, will result in an
unsuitable assessment and notification of fraudulent activity to DIBP.

Please refer to the Key areas of Knowledge documentation to help you with applying for an RPL.

Sufficient detail must be provided to demonstrate the depth and breadth of your ICT knowledge gained
during your ICT employment.

baknir · October 2014

@J_Oz sana nga 2 yrs lang ibawas.. may kutob ako na baka mas mataas dun and i deduct... ece course ko.. at NO ko 263111...

J_Oz · October 2014

@baknir maraming ECE dito na nag IT and I think related naman siya sa NO mo. Tsaka, if you will stay with your current company eh ok lang na magsubmit ka kahit ngayon pa lang

.

All the best, sana yong pinaka maganda ang result kapag nagpa-assess ka.

gerardds · October 2014

@mmm_85 In my opinion ok lang yun, as long as similar yung duties and responsibilities mo for BA role.
like for my case, my assessment was Analyst/Programmer although my positions held were programmer, software engineer and my current which is research and development Manager. because they are basing on your duties and responsibilities

Regarding yung RPL , required yang route na yan kasi if yung course mo is Non-IT
you can refer to @J_Oz post above.

b1g_d0m3 · October 2014

Good Day po! Newbie here pero I have been reading some posts here for some time. I have a question hope someone can help me.

I got my ACS results and gusto ko po sana malaman if tama ung pagkakaintindi ko sa result letter ko in terms of applying for points.

Your qualification has been assessed as follows:
Your Bachelor of Science in Computer Engineering from University A completed March
2006 has been assessed as comparable to an AQF Bachelor Degree with a major in computing.
The following employment after August 2008 is considered to equate to work at an appropriately
skilled level and relevant to 261313 (Software Engineer) of the ANZSCO Code.

Dates: 08/06 - 07/13 (6yrs 11mths)
Position: Software Engineer A
Employer: Company A
Country: PHILIPPINES
Dates: 07/13 - 02/14 (0yrs 7mths)
Position: Software Engineer B
Employer: Company B
Country: PHILIPPINES

The following employment has been assessed as not suitable.

Dates: 02/14 - 10/14 (0yrs 0mths)
Position: Application Support Analyst 1 - Not Closely Related to the Nominated ANZSCO
Employer: Company C
Country: PHILIPPINES

Points to Apply:
Education Qualification is Bachelor Degree = 10 pts ?
Employment After August 2008 is 5 years (August 2008 to February 2014) = 10 pts ?

Thanks po and God Bless!

mmm_85 · October 2014

@gerardds @J_Oz
Thanks for the help!

Since non-IT ang course ko, mukhang need ko nga magsubmit ng RPL (Recognition of Prior Learning) for BA/SA nominated occupation.

Meron na po ba dito or may kakilala na nagsubmit ng RPL and naging suitable ang result ng Skills Assessment for Business/Systems Analyst? Or any nominated occupation? Any tips/advice you can share?

whizler · October 2014

@b1g_d0m3 Here is my take.

1. You will have 15 points for the bachelor's degree.
2. The following periods can only be eligible for points therefore you will get 10 points.

Dates: 09/08 - 07/13 (5yrs 10mths)
Position: Software Engineer A
Employer: Company A
Country: PHILIPPINES
Dates: 07/13 - 02/14 (0yrs 7mths)
Position: Software Engineer B
Employer: Company B
Country: PHILIPPINES

3. You have a total of 25 points already for this assessment. Not Bad!

Reference: http://www.immi.gov.au/Visas/Pages/189.aspx

b1g_d0m3 · October 2014

@whizler Thank you po Sir!

I think nameet ko na ung points needed.

25 points
+ 30 points for Age (25–32 years)
+ 10 points for IELTS (scored at least 7 on Listening, Reading, Writing and Speaking)

Total = 65 points

Next: File my Visa 189 EOI.

whizler · October 2014

@b1g_d0m3 sure no worries. Well done! go for the next invitation round!

Btw, can you also put some timeline in your signature? That would be great for us to follow your progress as well. It's kind a fun to see as well

raiden14 · October 2014

Hello.. pwede magtanong ano magiging outcome ng ACS assesment if the following is submmitted. The suggested plan is to nominate Software engineer, pero macoconsider
kaya ng ACS yung most recent job? ALso magkakaproblem kaya sa DIBP?
Thanks in advanced, sana may makashare ng same experience.

2003-2010 application systems support ( various company)
2010-2014 - software engineer ( 1 and current company)

b1g_d0m3 · October 2014

@whizler eto sir pede na ba?

b1g_d0m3 · October 2014

@raiden14 Hi Sir,

In my years sa IT, I mostly do application support roles though in between, i have some development work which requires me to do coding, design, test and deploy fixes to the apps that I am supporting. There were cases also that I do enhancement work for those apps which required me to do the stuffs na nakalagay dun sa description ng Software Engineer. If mappresent nyo po yan sa documents nyo, i think maassess naman po yan just like in my case. Ung current job ko nga doesn't require me to do coding kaya nassess sya as not suitable though I am just 7 mos to my work and will get my points on my first previous jobs. Pero take note that ACS will still have the final say with regards to your assessment.

gerardds · October 2014

@raiden14 i think it will all depends on your roles and responsibilities
for my case, i have various job titles such as software engineer, developer, programmer, team leader and manager in different companies. But since roles are more into analyst/Programmer, i used it as my nomination and i have no problem with my assessment till i received my grant

whizler · October 2014

@b1g_d0m3 That is perfect. So ACS still processing time is still under a month which used to be 3 months before.

@raiden14 I think if you will highlight "software engineer" specific tasks (found in https://www.acs.org.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0018/7641/ANZSCO-Descriptions.pdf) written in your job reference document (or detailed COE with job description) and just do not state irrelevant tasks, then you can get ACS to focus on what is needed to be a software engineer. Did you write your own job reference doc and got it signed with your manager? If yes, then you can do it again if possible.

raiden14 · October 2014

di ba nila titingnan yung past ko as in. kasi support roles ginawa ko from 2003 to 2010 eh. Then nagswitch lang ng 2010- until currently. Baka kasi mas makita nila yung mas maraming function ko. And yes whizler , I provide my own roles and responsibilities sa COE they dont have a defined role for my position in black and white eh.

heyits7me_mags · October 2014

Hello.. pwede magtanong ano magiging outcome ng ACS assesment if the following is submmitted. The suggested plan is to nominate Software engineer, pero macoconsider
kaya ng ACS yung most recent job? ALso magkakaproblem kaya sa DIBP?
Thanks in advanced, sana may makashare ng same experience.

2003-2010 application systems support ( various company)
2010-2014 - software engineer ( 1 and current company)

@raiden14 what will be ACS assessment if u won't submit your earliest job description like yung duration of work fr. 2003-2010 I mean your support work to get ACS focus on your role as software Engr. Bka lng maiba result favorable to you.

heyits7me_mags · October 2014

Come to think of it lng nman.

whizler · October 2014

I agree with @heyits7me_mags.

@raiden14 However if you have the following tasks (taken from the ANZSCO-Descriptions.pdf) in your previous work (2003-2010 application systems support ( various company)) then you should highlight and include them.

261313 - Software Engineer
Designs, develops, modifies, documents, tests, implements, installs and supports software applications and systems.

raiden14 · October 2014

If i wont include them, then kukulangin ako ng points for 189. Short with 5 pts.
Magiging 5 pts lang ako from work experience since 4 yrs lang ang meron ako as software engineer.

naxia · November 2014

Hello! regarding the certification of ACS requirements, acceptable po ba kung University registrar ang mag stamp and certify ng Diploma and Transcript of Records?

Ok lang din po ba na yung wording ng certification stamp is "Certified Copy", and not "Certified True Copy of the Original", as required by ACS?

Thank you!

altuser41 · November 2014

Good luck @coachella9!

coachella9 · November 2014

Hello @altuser41 Thank po. By the way yung Project Manager ko po is hinde na connected dun sa company namin before (company A), lumipat na cya sa ibang company (company

. Dun po sa statutory declaration form na na pakita niyo sa link naka state kasi du sa taas yung company name and address, ano po ba yung dapat ilagay ng project manager na mag gagawa ng statutory declaration. yung company A or company B? (for example). Thanks!

just_g29 · November 2014

mga sirs, paano po ba ang dapat gawin kasi yung birth certificate ko from NSO e sobrang labo. halos di na mabasa mga nakasulat. naka 3 request na ako ng birth certificate iba ibang branch ng NSO pare parehong malabo. ano po kaya ang maadvise ninyo? TIA

Not sure if may sumagot npo nito.. but if i may answer.. get a certified copy of your civil registrar birth certificate po.. bka mas clear yun and yun lng din nmn ang iniscan ng nso eh..

fatcharlie · November 2014

@fatcharlie in my case, ang labo ng dryseal saken.. halos di kita. Pero hindi naman nagkaproblem. yung dryseal kasi sa UST, literal na embossed seal na may small pirma lang ng registrar.

embossed dry seal din yung sa akin, though walang signature and totally hindi makita sa scanned version. Anyway try ko nalang to submit it and wait and see kung papaulit ba ng ACS

salamat sa reply!

buchock · November 2014

This June 2015 mag-expired na ang ACS result ko. Kung magpapaassess ba ulit ako, kailangan ko pa bang magpaCTC ulit? Npansin ko kasi sa stamp ng Notary Public may date. Ano ba yun validity pagkakaCTC ng docs mo?

grant512 · November 2014

Hi po , ask ko lang po my wife is Accounting Graduate and she work as Business Analyst for 7 years till present. Nag agency po kami para sa assesment sa ACS with RPL na din.. Meron po ba same experience? kaka lodge lang namin kahapon at medyo excited ako last try kasi namin year 2007 at Accountant pa work nya nun.

gerardds · November 2014

hi @grant512 for RPL, just fyi may deduction na at least 6 years experience
so I dont think you will be able to claim points for experience if 7 years na wife mo as BA.

if pasok pa rin naman kayo sa total points, ipa-vetassess nyo naman yung qualification
nya para may points sa education since hindi maaassess ng ACS yung accounting.
pero check nyo rin yung school nya sa Country education profile kung section 1
kasi alam ko pag section 1 di na kailangan ng vetassess

grant512 · November 2014

hi @gerardds Thanks po sa reply, medyo nalilito ako, Di po ba kailagan muna sa ACS since hindi sya IT grad.. PInagawa pa kami ng rpl to justify na enough na ang IT experience nya.

Tama po ba ang process? thanks

Regarding sa school paano po ma check if section1? Thanks