Australian Computer Society Skills Application

gerardds · November 2014

@grant512
for normal assessment of ACS if IT grad yung spouse mo. dalawa magiging assessments
yung isa sa work experience then the other is assessment ng degree whether it is bachelors degree, diploma or masters. Since hindi IT course ng asawa mo, maaassess lang e yung skills nya. that is the reason you need to have a separate assessment for her degree
to vetassess..

you can check the link from acs
https://www.acs.org.au/migration-skills-assessment/faqs/recognition-letter/i-have-a-suitable-skills-assessment-through-rpl,-but-my-qualifications-is-not-listed-on-the-result-letter

as for cep, you can check this thread
http://pinoyau.info/discussion/5/philippines-accredited-schools-and-section/p1

Dagdag ko na rin yung magiging tinatawag nilang deduction sa experience

"Non ICT Diploma or Higher
 If your degree is assessed with insufficient ICT content, you will require 6 years relevant work
experience completed anytime in your past work history, plus a suitable Recognition of Prior
Learning (RPL) application to meet the suitability criteria."

page 4 of
https://www.acs.org.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0020/7319/Skills-Assessment-Guidelines-for-Applicants.pdf

grant512 · November 2014

@gerardds

Ayun marami salamat at luminaw na po sakin. Waiting for the result sa ACS assessment namin. Thanks po

MyOZdream · November 2014

@gerardds My friend graduated BS Phsychology and Management but worked as a Software Programmer for 8 yrs, ACS lang ang assessment nya. di na sya ngpaassess sa ibang assessing body. minus 6 yrs since RPL

gerardds · November 2014

@MyOZdream yes its possible, i read from other forums na-issuance din ng grant
provided na yung school is mataas ang section sa "Country Education Profile"...
This just shows na kahit walang assessment na binigay ang applicant regarding sa degree nya, tumitingin pa rin sila sa iba puedeng pagbasehan. Though im not sure if all COs are the same

but having said that, kung ako,just to make sure lang, ipapavetassess ko yung degree
ko para makatulog ng mahimbing

Stoked0419 · November 2014

Hello mates, I'm glad and happy this thread exist.

I decided to go and do my own application and not seek for immig agent.

My query may have been discussed in the past but I just have a simple question here. Hopefully someone can enlighten me.

On my current employment, what date should I put on the duration of employment? e.i. May 1, 2013 to "?" - should it be the date I will submit my document to ACS?

Tia

J_Oz · November 2014

@Stoked0419 ang ginawa ko ata before e yong kung anong month ko sinubmit.

Stoked0419 · November 2014

@J_Oz salamat sa quick response!

I see.. I am planning to submit my application by Nov. 27 and derecho upload na for assestment. Sa ngayon, ginagawa ko pa lang draft ng coe ko sa present employer ko then ipapaCTC ko na. So pwede ko siguro ilagay sa date is from May 1, 2013 to Nov 30, 2014?

Is that correct?

J_Oz · November 2014

@Stoked0419 yep kung ano yong date dun sa COE mo para mas ok. tsaka take note sa ACS po Month and year lang ilalagay, yon ang naaalala ko.

Natry mo na ba magcreate sa ACS? try mo para magkaidea ka, kasi yong filenames may kelangan rin sundin

GOodluck on your assessment

Stoked0419 · November 2014

@J_Oz ito kasi yung sinabi ko na gayahin format ng HRs ng past companies ko. Sa ACS website ko nakuha yung sample of employment reference (attached in my post now)

Hindi ko na natry magcreate. Sige mamaya paguwi ko sa bahay, try ko gawin. Masyadong busy sa office mahirap magninja move sa ibang browser. Lol.

Thanks sa reply!

Stoked0419 · November 2014

@J_Oz may I clarify about creating an account? Do you mean I must be a member? Nakita ko kasi sa main page may member login.

J_Oz · November 2014

@Stoked0419 ah if you are referring to employment reference pwede naman from may 1 2013 to present.. sa acs mo lang ilalagay ung date kapag ipasa mo na ung form pero ung employment reference kung andyan ka pa sa current company mo e to present na lang

Stoked0419 · November 2014

Hi @J_Oz , nainip ako at kahit nasa opisina naglogin ako sa ACS online application form at gumawa na ng account.

Nakita ko dun ACS website under "relevant experience" tab, month and year lang ilalagay ko. So sa present company ko is 11-2014 .

Sorry kung makulit ako sir, pero parang nakita ko kasi somewhere na dapat eh ilagay sa "to- date" is yung data of submission ko at hindi "present".

siguro nagiisip lang ako masyado. tagal ko pinaghandaan to eh.

haizt..

Stoked0419 · November 2014

Guys, I have a situation now. Hopefully someone can help me out and give some advise.

by May 2015, I can already apply for 261111 - require 5 years of experience.
by today, I can apply for 263212 - I already have 6 years of experience.

If I go for 263212 (CSOL) - then I can apply for visa 190 and request SA SS or I can also go for visa 489 path but I don't know when will I have a CO and whether how fast will be the process.

If I go for 261111 (SOL) - I need to wait til May 2015 and I will apply for 189.

Any advise guys? TIA

J_Oz · November 2014

@Stoked0419 hehe ganyan din ako nung nagpprocess ako ng ACS ko. Anyway I worked for the same company since 2008 till now. I documented yong ACS na ginawa ko ni-screenshot ko, at ang nisubmit ko is 06/2008 to 08/2014.

pero tignan natin suggestion ng mga experts

J_Oz · November 2014

Guys, I have a situation now. Hopefully someone can help me out and give some advise.

by May 2015, I can already apply for 261111 - require 5 years of experience.
by today, I can apply for 263212 - I already have 6 years of experience.

If I go for 263212 (CSOL) - then I can apply for visa 190 and request SA SS or I can also go for visa 489 path but I don't know when will I have a CO and whether how fast will be the process.

If I go for 261111 (SOL) - I need to wait til May 2015 and I will apply for 189.

Any advise guys? TIA

yong sa unang option mo, we will never know kung ano yong present occupations ang pwedeng maisali for a certain state, nagbabago siya e.

Yong second option naman, dahil mag 5 years ka palang no?

Ano na po ba ang current points mo? kahit self-assessment lang muna... Kasi Yong IELTS actually sobrang malaking tulong yan, you can claim 20 points as long as makakuha ka ng 8 sa lahat ng sub test.

Syempre, mas magandang ipa-assess ang nominated occupation under ng SOL kasi unang una di mo na kelangan mag hintay ng mga open na state, as long as pasok ang 60 points mo...

if you don't mind, ano na current points mo. PM mo na lang if you want to post details here para macheck ko rin

snider · November 2014

Hi Guys,

(nilipat ko lang po itong question ko from another thread)

Bago lang po ako dito.

Iniintindi ko pa lang ang process, at meron po sana akong gusto itanong:

1. Nag points calculator ako and mukhang may chance po makakuha ng 60pts from Age, Course, Work, and IELTS for visa 189. First step po ba ang ACS assessment para malaman if qualified nga ako?

2. Work Experience (8 years IT Software Support and Dev) - Yun first company ko kasi, hindi daw sila nag i-issue ng Employer Reference with job description/activities/roles dahil confidential daw yun. Pero need kasi ito for ACS assessment di ba? Meron na bang naka experience ng ganito at ano ang alternative na binigay sa ACS?

3. Graduate po ako ng AMA University QC - BS Computer Engineering. Iba iba kasi ang nabasa kong feedback sa mga unang nag apply from same school. If Cum Laude, meron po kayang chance na mas mataas ang points na ibibigay?

Salamat po sa mga replies..

J_Oz · November 2014

naka underline ang reply ko.. see below...

Hi Guys,

(nilipat ko lang po itong question ko from another thread)

Bago lang po ako dito.
Iniintindi ko pa lang ang process, at meron po sana akong gusto itanong:

1. Nag points calculator ako and mukhang may chance po makakuha ng 60pts from Age, Course, Work, and IELTS for visa 189. First step po ba ang ACS assessment para malaman if qualified nga ako? - For me, the first step is to identify your nominated occupation and know if it's under SOL. Ang ginawa ko naman, since IELTS is not a requirement sa ACS, inuna ko na ang ACS para rin malaman ko kung ano ang aim kong score sa IELTS.

2. Work Experience (8 years IT Software Support and Dev) - Yun first company ko kasi, hindi daw sila nag i-issue ng Employer Reference with job description/activities/roles dahil confidential daw yun. Pero need kasi ito for ACS assessment di ba? Meron na bang naka experience ng ganito at ano ang alternative na binigay sa ACS? - Yes meron na pong mga nakagawa niyan, you can search po yong forum natin. There is a thread specific sa mga taga Accenture kasi hindi sila nabibigyan ng employment reference with job description.

3. Graduate po ako ng AMA University QC - BS Computer Engineering. Iba iba kasi ang nabasa kong feedback sa mga unang nag apply from same school. If Cum Laude, meron po kayang chance na mas mataas ang points na ibibigay? - I'm not sure kung may bearing, pero sabi ng iba meron daw kasi yong mga Board Passers nga e may advantage rin. Pero ang makakasagot lang niyan ay ang ACS.

Salamat po sa mga replies..

raiden14 · November 2014

@Stoked0419 - You need to wait for both because SA SS - for ICT Support Engineer is on Special Condition. Whether it is 190 or 489.

Nagtataka lang ako bakit 2 different set and nominated jobs mo?

gerardds · November 2014

@snider
#2. you can create your own statutory declaration with roles and responsibilities
and ask for your supervisor to sign... make sure lang na-confirm ng supervisor mo yung
nakalagay dun ha kasi sya ang nakapirma.

#3. Same degree tayo, just take note lang na 4 years yung required to meet yung skilled experience. so most likely you will have 4 years of experience remaining to claim points

MyOZdream · November 2014

@J_Oz question po. Can I claim 15 points po ba sa education? This is the result from ACS

Your Bachelor of Science in Computer Engineering from Technological Institute of the
Philippines completed October 2005 has been assessed as comparable to an AQF Bachelor
Degree with a major in computing.

snider · November 2014

@J_Oz thanks. Ang nominated skill ko is software engineer. Yun na ang pinakamalapit sa description kasi. Ok, search ko yun thread from Accenture. Hindi ko pa nakita yon

snider · November 2014

@gerardds thanks for this info.

Sa statutory document, same format ba sya ng sample employer reference from ACS? Meron pa din company letterhead, address, etc?

Sorry medyo nalito ako, what do you mean po dito? Magiging parang 4years of experience na lang ako? Dahil yun 4years is ginamit to meet/qualify pa lang as skilled immigrant kahit IT related ang course?

"3. Same degree tayo, just take note lang na 4 years yung required to meet yung skilled experience. so most likely you will have 4 years of experience remaining to claim points"

gerardds · November 2014

@snider no, stat declaration is a legal document na nagpapatunay ng supervisor mo
na yung mga duties and responsibilities mo sa company.
sample ng format ay ganito,
http://www.ag.gov.au/Publications/Documents/CommonwealthStatutorydeclarationform.pdf
which is witnessed by a notary

as for the 4 years deduction you can refer to page 3 of
https://www.acs.org.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0020/7319/Skills-Assessment-Guidelines-for-Applicants.pdf

"If your degree is assessed as having an ICT major which is NOT closely related to your
nominated occupation, you will require 4 years relevant work experience completed anytime in
your past work history to meet the suitability criteria."

so magsstart lang yung skilled experience mo after 4th year

this is same case as mine kasi im a Computer Engineering grad din
But still it depends sa curriculum mo, malay mo mas marami kang subjects
na more in softwares

J_Oz · November 2014

Yes po you can claim 15 points po!!!

@J_Oz question po. Can I claim 15 points po ba sa education? This is the result from ACS

Your Bachelor of Science in Computer Engineering from Technological Institute of the
Philippines completed October 2005 has been assessed as comparable to an AQF Bachelor
Degree with a major in computing.

snider · November 2014

@gerardds thanks for the explanation. start na akong mag gather ng requirements for ACS. try lang ng opportunity. bahala na hehe. one question pa sa employer reference, sa sample kasi from ACS website, meron naka pirma as Certifier, sino po yon? HR from employer?

gerardds · November 2014

@snider yes, usually naman nakukuha natin yung employment cert/ref from HR
good luck kaya yan

snider · November 2014

@gerardds nakausap ko na kasi yun manager sa second employer ko. And igagawa nya daw ako basta send ko lang cv ko sa kanya para align kami. After nya gawin yun letter, ipapa-sign ko na lang sa HR yon?

Stoked0419 · November 2014

@raiden14 hi sir, nakita ko lang kasi isa din member dito na nabigyan ng invi recebtly. @zoe_girl ata username nya eh.

Ict 263212 ang pinaasses nya. I think if i'm not mistaken she sent her eoi (489) to SA after the status of SA changed to Special Condition. As per her updae she already got an invite.

raiden14 · November 2014

after? so open ang 489?

gerardds · November 2014

@snider kung mapa-sign mo sa HR, then it will serve as employment certificate, this will suffice already and you dont need stat declaration just ask your HR to keep a record of this document for your employment history records na rin. So that if ever the DIBP will investigate, masasagot ng HR yung mga queries nya