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• goreo Braddon
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  January 2015

  ano sinabi nila sayo?

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• cholle Sydney
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  January 2015 edited January 2015

  Which area?
  
  I've never encountered this, and I actually live in the ghetto part of Sydney.

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• vhoythoy Melbourne
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  Di nman cguro grabe nman yan hahaha

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• TasBurrfoot Osaka
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  San mas may rascists against Pinoys? Sa Au, NZ or Canada? Nun nanjan ako sa Au ramdam na ramdam ko be it sa grocery o habang naglalakad sa kalye kung ano ano pinagsasabi sa akin habang nasa kotse sila at ako'y naglalakad lang.

  I feel sorry for you mate...
  
  Anyway, mas maraming racist sa Philippines!

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• pinoykiwi_inOZ Melbourne
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  San mas may rascists against Pinoys? Sa Au, NZ or Canada? Nun nanjan ako sa Au ramdam na ramdam ko be it sa grocery o habang naglalakad sa kalye kung ano ano pinagsasabi sa akin habang nasa kotse sila at ako'y naglalakad lang.

  @Galtraveller, oh sorry to hear that. Just ignore them and do your business. Generally Aussies are more happy and friendly compared to Kiwis. The Maoris (like the abbos here) there are not so welcoming and lagi nilang victim ang asians when it come to snatching bags you are still lucky coz nakakarinig ka lang ng salita. In Auckland babatuhin ka ng kahit ano pag napagtripan ka. Worst na nakita ko binato ng bote yung asian sa takot ko nagtago ako sa likod ng bus stop shed. And I've had travel around aussie and never encountered anything bad.
  
  
• wizardofOz Brisbane
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  January 2015 edited January 2015

  Ako wala rin directly na naranasan na discrimination mula sa mga Puti, 10 days ako total sa Sydney and Melbourne..
  
  Actually lahat ng encounters ko with Aussies were nice and very helpful sila sa akin.
  
  Ang na-encounter ko pa nga is matandang asian, binangga yung balikat ko habang tumitingin ako ng souvenirs sa Opera House gift shop… sobrang lakas talaga nung pagbangga nya at alam mong sinasadya… Ang ganda pa man din ng mood ko that time kasi nga first-time ko nun sa Opera House…
  
  Gusto ko sana habulin at patirin eh, hindi ko na lang pinatulan kasi nga matanda… Pero sure ako turista yun kasi isang grupo sila ng turista na maiingay
  

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• pinoykiwi_inOZ Melbourne
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  January 2015

  @wizardofOz, oo normal yun dyan. Sana sinabi mo 'bloody asians' hehehe!
  
• wizardofOz Brisbane
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  January 2015 edited January 2015

  @pinoykiwi_inOZ Nakita pa nga nung isang lalake (ewan kung ano lahi nun) dun sa shop yung ginawa sakin nung matanda tapos nakita ko napa-iling sya…
  
  Madami nako napuntahan asian countries, and currently working in one, pero never ko naranasang mabastos ng ganun... Kaya kapag na-tyempuhan ka talaga...
  
  Pero the best way to deal with it is umiwas na lang sa any altercation... yun kasi hanap ng mga ganyang tao... yung patulan sila. Kung hindi man ikaw ang mapahamak, baka ikaw naman ang makagawa ng hindi maganda dahil sa galit mo.

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• goreo Braddon
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  wala rin kami na-experience na discrimination when we went to sydney for a week.. pero pansin lang namin ng wife ko na sobrang serious ng mga tao sa sydney..walang ka-sense sense of humor.. mula sa taxi driver, receptionist sa hotel, sales lady sa damitan, cashier ng mcdo..

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• rencerencerence Melbourne
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  nangyare saken sa bus stop sa frankston, madilim na non winter kc kaya maaga magdilim. naglalakad ako papuntang bus biglang may tumatakbo sa likod ko, sigaw ng sigaw. hey you! you! you guy! you asian! lasing xa cgurado tas pasigaw talaga, kinabahan ako, pero lumingon pa dn ako. sabi nya what time is it? sagot ko naman mga 8:40 na kc nun eh.. reply ba naman, thank you very much, thank you! your so nice, God bless you! wew!
  
  
• Galtraveller San Pablo City
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  1995 - 1st time ko sa Sydney. Sa Coles malapit sa Hurstville, malay ko naman ikaw mismo kailangan magbag ng groceries mo at bata pa ako nun. Sagot sa akin ng cashier "bag it yourself'.
  
  2006 - 2nd time sa Melbourne. Me lasing nakasuit pa ang lalaki ha naglalakad ako pauwi an dami ko pa naman dala nun at uphill sya pinagtritripan ako di ko maintindihan pinagsasabi hinaharangan daan ko. Buti na lang at inawat sya kasama nya at pinadaan ako.
  
  Another day, me mga teenagers sa kotse sinisigawan ako habang nagdradrive e naglalakad lang ako. Deadma lang ako pero nakakatakot at baka bumaba sila bigla.
  
  Tapos sa Adelaide, ganun din isang Linggo. Mga lalake din sa loob ng kotse pinagsisigawan ako habang naglalakad.
  
  Muka kase akong inchik at maliit pa ako baka kala Koreana ako o Japon.
• danyan2001us Melbourne, Australia
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  i think kahit saan may discrimination....medyo subtle nga lang yong iba.....

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• vhoythoy Melbourne
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  January 2015 edited January 2015

  Uu sa pinas madami nyan kapag napasabay ka sa mga batang hamog, sa divisoria/ recto/ cubao, mas matindi nga ngaun may naglilibot pang white van na nangingidnap at rape, sa middle east din daw marami ganyan mga pasaway na local teenagers babatuhin ng itlog sasakyan mo or baseball bat salamin, pati mga menor de edad na nakakotse dun may mga balasubas daw sa daan. Halos kahit saan bansa, maliban lang cguro sa mga safe na bansa tlaga gaya dito sa sg.

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• goreo Braddon
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  tama..kahit saan naman meron..kahit dito sa forum meron din minsan..

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• vhoythoy Melbourne
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  January 2015 edited January 2015

  Ok lng mga ganyan deadma lng at konting ingat. Di nman pang araw2 yan mga exp n yan, kung nasa maling oras, lugar at pagkakataon ka lang. Dami pasaway sa tabi2 talaga unless i provoke ka talaga gaya ni beast mode driver hehe

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• cholle Sydney
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  Medyo misleading yung title ng thread na ito....

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• TasBurrfoot Osaka
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  Medyo misleading yung title ng thread na ito....

  Changed it...
  

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• engr_boy Sydney
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  wala pa akong na-experience na racism directed towards me. but i have experienced racism directed towards other ethnicities. both nangyari sa bus stop. first one, a car slowed down a young man shouted ebola! to an old african lady. the latest was a few days after the Charlie Hebdo attack, a group of young men and women stopped their car at the other side of the road shouted ISIS at a middle eastern lady wearing a burqa.
  
  mabait pa naman. pinaapaupo nya ako kasi mainet sabi ko, wag na kasi i'm holding a grocery bag full of non-halal items (porkchops and sausages) eh leaking sya. sabi ko, wag na lang nya pansinin. baka mahilig sa fox news mga yan medyo mababa pang-unawa. natawa naman sya.

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• clickbuddy2009 Sydney
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  Naalala ko dati namention ng mga relatives namin from Melbourne na sobra raw talaga ang discrimination sa Australia noong 90s. Kahit sila ay nakaexperience din ng bad treatment dati nung mga panahon na yon. So meaning nangyayari nga ito dati, pero sa ngayon cguro isolated cases na lang yang racism. Masyadong diverse na kasi ang Australia ngayon at ipinagbabawal na rin ang racism dito. Sa katunayan, dito ko na ata nakita ang may pinakamababait at very concerned na mga tao (puti). Dito sa WA, same treatment ang nakikita ko kapag sumasakay ng public transport or sa mga stores (Asian ka man or puti or itim pare-pareho maayos ang pagtrato nila). Unlike sa Pinas, na naturingang very hospitable group of people daw, pero parang sa mga foreigners lang ata applicable yun (sa mga puti to be exact). Pero kapag sa kapwa pinoy na nila or sa ibang lahing hindi nila gusto, iba naman ang pinapakitang ugali ng karamihan ng mga pinoys.

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• Xiaomau82 Singapore
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  January 2015

  agree. isolated case siguro. Been to Sydney, Melbourne and Perth, pero wala nmn kaming Naexperience na ganyn. I’m not sure why but I find them very polite and nice, way better than those in SG.
• legato09 Sydney
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  wala rin kami na-experience na discrimination when we went to sydney for a week.. pero pansin lang namin ng wife ko na sobrang serious ng mga tao sa sydney..walang ka-sense sense of humor.. mula sa taxi driver, receptionist sa hotel, sales lady sa damitan, cashier ng mcdo..

  Kung sa CBD malamang kasi puro busy ang tao, lagi nagmamadali mag lakad, lahat mabilisan...
  
  Pero given a chance and a healthy conversation is started, for sure hit yan, mahilig sila makipag kwentuhan, mahilig makipagtawanan, sa loob ng office bago mag start ang araw, hi hello, kamustahan, kwentuhan, side jokes and etc, then kapag idle time ganun din, minsan ikaw ang iiwas at mahilig sila makipag kwentuhan. Kapag Monday morning, kamustahan kung ano ginawa sa weekend, kung anong maganda ang naexperience nila. On Fridays, tatanungin ka kung ano plans mo for the weekend, mag susuggest sila kapag sinabi mo wala ka gagawin.
  
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• thegreatiam15 Sydney
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  January 2015

  kung meron mang lugar na racism mas racist ang asian vs asian sampol nalang dito sa SJEE at PEENOISE haha lalo ngayong taon na to andaming issues na kumakalat pati yung latest na Pinoy na nagtatrabaho sa TTHS na nagkalat nang masaamang salita sa mga lokal
  
  
  

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• vhoythoy Melbourne
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  January 2015 edited January 2015

  May mga racist at pasaway lang na tao talaga. Problema din tlaga sa mga big countries yan kasi mahirap din ma control mga pasaway. Ok din nman exp ko sa australia, people are happier and friendlier than dito sa sg. Ang racist nman dito sa lugar na to is more on keyboard warriors lang or kapag nakatalikod/ indirectly kasi takot din sila sa harapan at comfrontations at least sa case/ experience ko.

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• thegreatiam15 Sydney
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  January 2015

  May mga racist at pasaway lang na tao talaga. Problema din tlaga sa mga big countries yan kasi mahirap din ma control mga pasaway. Ok din nman exp ko sa australia, people are happier and friendlier than dito sa sg. Ang racist nman dito sa lugar na to is more on keyboard warriors lang or kapag nakatalikod/ indirectly kasi takot din sila sa harapan at comfrontations at least sa case/ experience ko.

  paano ke keyboard warrior or harapan malupet ang batas may kalalagyan ka
  
  para saken tingin ko mas mababait ang aussies kasi sa makati nung nagwowork ako sa isang aussie firm sobrang bait nang mga boss ko na aussie may mga asa asawa at anak na sa mga pilipina e

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• sydneysider Hart
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  January 2015

  been in Sydney for almost 5 years and have not heard of pinoys being racially discriminated. but I have witnessed once, a black woman in the train being treated differently by police patrolling the trains. they were inspecting the train tickets, I showed mine and they didn't even had a closer look but the black woman was asked for an ID and took a while before the 3 policemen moved to the other passengers.
  
  Australians are generally nice and tolerant people.. at least most of them.
• danyan2001us Melbourne, Australia
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  March 2015

  been here for five years and haven't experienced being racially discriminated even at work. most of my mates are OZs and they're very cool even to us Pinoyss (we're five in our company)....you only have to show them your true self....mas discriminating pa ang few pinoy dito hehe.....sad to note but that's a fact

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• TasBurrfoot Osaka
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  March 2015

  been here for five years and haven't experienced being racially discriminated even at work. most of my mates are OZs and they're very cool even to us Pinoyss (we're five in our company)....you only have to show them your true self....mas discriminating pa ang few pinoy dito hehe.....sad to note but that's a fact

  @danyan2001us - most Filipinos are by nature racist or disciminating bai... kahit na dinadaan sa joke but fact remains it is still discrimination/racism.
  
  ever heard people put you down kay bisaya ka? happens all the time!

  Primary Applicant: Wife
  Accountant (General): 221111

  04 Aug 2012 - IELTS (Academic Module)
  07 Aug 2012 - IELTS (Academic Module) Speaking Part
  17 Aug 2012 - IELTS Results (L: 8.5 R: 8.5 W: 7.0 S: 7.5 OBS: 8.0)
  24 Aug 2012 - CPAA Submitted (docs mailed same day via SG EMS)
  25 Sep 2012 - Received +Skills Assessment from CPAA
  25 Sep 2012 - Lodged EOI Application with 70pts
  30 Sep 2012 - Invited by DIAC to apply for 189 Visa
  01 Oct 2012 - Submitted 189 Visa Application
  20 Oct 2012 - Medical Examinations
  23 Oct 2012 - CO Assigned; Team 7 - SA
  05 Nov 2012 - Submitted SG PCC and NBI Clearance
  06 Nov 2012 - Visa Granted (IED: 23/10/2013)
  03 Apr 2013 - Flight to MEL
  03 Jun 2013 - started work
  12 Jun 2013 - wife started work
  15 Jun 2016 - applied for citizenship
  29 Jul 2016 - citizenship examination
  20 Oct 2016 - Aussie, Aussie, Aussie Oi Oi Oi!!
• wizardofOz Brisbane
  Posts: 1,342Member
  Joined: Feb 19, 2013

  March 2015

  been here for five years and haven't experienced being racially discriminated even at work. most of my mates are OZs and they're very cool even to us Pinoyss (we're five in our company)....you only have to show them your true self....mas discriminating pa ang few pinoy dito hehe.....sad to note but that's a fact

  @danyan2001us - most Filipinos are by nature racist or disciminating bai... kahit na dinadaan sa joke but fact remains it is still discrimination/racism.
  
  ever heard people put you down kay bisaya ka? happens all the time!

  Sad but true... kalahi mismo dini-discriminate ng karamihan ng Pinoys..
  
  Pero ibang lahi na ang may nasabi satin, madaming sensitive, crying out racism agad.

  Nominated Occupation: Plant or Production Engineer (ANZSCO 233513)

  03/23/13: IELTS GT Exam (British Council)
  04/05/13: IELTS Results L:7.0/R:7.5/W:7.5/S:8.5 OBS: 7.5
  makalipas ang isang taon....
  04/20/14: CDR Application sent to EA
  07/09/14: EA started reviewing my CDR
  08/08/14: EA Assessment Positive Results (Thank you LORD!!!)
  09/16/14: Requested EA for a Duplicate Letter (Original Outcome Letter lost during mail delivery to PH)
  09/21/14: Duplicate Assessment Letter received (Finally!!)
  09/21/14: EOI Lodged (70 pts)
  09/22/14: Invited to lodge Skilled - Independent (Subclass 189) visa
  09/23/14: Obtained Overseas PCC
  09/29/14: Obtained NBI Clearance
  10/12/14: Lodged application - Visa Subclass 189
  10/12/14: Uploaded docs
  10/20/14: Medicals Done
  12/06/14: Direct Grant! To GOD Be the Glory!
  12/13/14: Completed Initial Entry - Sydney
• filipinacpa Perth
  Posts: 1,085Member, De-activated
  Joined: Jan 24, 2013

  March 2015

  True. Aussies are really friendly and nice. I'm actually snobbish to strangers or people I don't know. (which I think most Pinoys do din naman as safety precautions not to be hypnotized my kidnappers/holduppers/etc). My boyfriend would scold me all the time I failed to greet the people back or look and smile at them. Lol well I'm learning. Unleashing the friendliness inside me. Haha medyo napractice ko lang talaga yung advice dito sa Manila na "don't talk to the strangers".. lol

  2013-Jan : Decided to pursue my OZ dream
  2013-Nov : 1st Ielts-GT @ BC Manila: L-8;R-6.5;W-7.5;S-7.5
  2014-Mar : 2nd Ielts-GT @ BC Manila: L-8;R-8.5;W-6.5;S-7.5
  Pahinga muna. Sakit sa puso at bulsa!
  2015-May : 1st PTE-A @ Bright Center: L-85;R-70;S-45;W-90
  2015-May : 2nd PTE-A @Bright Center; L-90;R-70;S-47; W-90
  2015-July : 3rd PTE-A @Pearson: L-90;R-77;S-83; W-90
  2015-July 20 - Lodged docs to Vetassess
  2015-Oct 1: VET Positive outcome
  2015-Oct 1: Submitted EOI 190 visa to NSW (55+5)
  2015-Oct 4: Submitted EOI 190 visa to QLD (55+5)
  2015-Oct 5: QLD responded, rejected 190 due to change in occupation list but offered ITA for 489 visa instead
  2015-Nov 2: DIBP points adjusted to 60+5 (due to additional 1 year working experience)
  2015-Nov 26: ITA for SS NSW
  2015-Nov 28: Submitted SS application
  2015-Dec 17: SS Approved + Received 190 ITA
  2015-Dec 23: Lodged 190
  2016-Jan 5: Medical @ Nationwide (Php5,600 na ang fee!!)
  2016-Jan 8: Medical Clearance Provided - no action required (Thank you Lord!)
  2016-Jan 18: Applied for Driving SP and Direct Visa Grant!!! (Thank You Lord!)
  2016-Jan 26: PDOS @ CFO Manila + Enrolled at A1 Driving

  2016-Mar 14: BIG MOVE!:)

  PRAY HARD, WORK HARDER!

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  sana po makatulong.. God bless!
• danyan2001us Melbourne, Australia
  Posts: 2,536Member, Moderator
  Joined: Nov 14, 2012

  March 2015

  been here for five years and haven't experienced being racially discriminated even at work. most of my mates are OZs and they're very cool even to us Pinoyss (we're five in our company)....you only have to show them your true self....mas discriminating pa ang few pinoy dito hehe.....sad to note but that's a fact

  @danyan2001us - most Filipinos are by nature racist or disciminating bai... kahit na dinadaan sa joke but fact remains it is still discrimination/racism.
  
  ever heard people put you down kay bisaya ka? happens all the time!

  yes, bai tas i would agree with you on that.....and they just don't realise that actually they're already discriminating others by doing so lol....anyway i'm glad to have friends who are OZ and very openminded people....treasure them guys if you have some "real friends"
  
  

  primary applicant- wife
  arrived melbourne- July 28, 2010