Moral Obligation - 2 years - State Sponsored Visa

anjcostelo · November 2014

@Arch_Onin sorry ang tagal ko ng di nag-oopen. Nagreport kasi ako agad kasi sa Perth naman talaga ako unang dumating. mga almost 2 months din naman ako naghanap ng work so earnest efforts talaga to live there.

anjcostelo · November 2014

@manofsteel ang tanong lng ng company is if PR ka o hindi but di naman tinanong if ano ang visa ang hawak mo. icehcehck ata nila iyon sa Vevo but not sure anong nakikita nila

liannepot · November 2014

Hi mga Kabayan, I also sent an e-mail to my sponsoring state to release me from my moral obligation to stay here for 2 years and received this e-mail from them. Mainit init pa. Hehe. Medyo malabo sakin yung ibig sabihin nung message pero ang take ko is pwede naman akong lumipat provided I will keep them updated and answer all the surveys they will send in relation to the sponsorship. Tama ba?

Dear Xxxx,

Thank you for advising us of your situation.

As you will remember part of your migration application required you to commit to living in XXX for two years. Your agreement to this commitment was a primary reason why you were granted a visa to Australia and you signed a declaration in this regard.

We expect all applicants to honour this commitment.

However, at the same time we understand that you do have to find work in order to make a living.

Note that you are still required to complete the surveys regardless of where you live and failure to do so is a breach of the sponsorship conditions.

It would be useful if you could provide us with further information on what you found difficult about finding employment in xxxxx and how we could potentially help other migrants.

Please quote Reference Number: M-XXXX in all of your communication to us.

Kind regards,

manofsteel · November 2014

@liannepot do you mind sharing kung ano state ito?

rareking · November 2014

Very informative sharing po dito sa topic na ito. Thank you sa lahat ng mga nagshare ng kani-kanilang experiences. Ako din ay bound for SA and has a plan to honor the 2-yr obligation.

I have been applying before and after my visa grant. Lagay na nating for the past 4 months or more. Merong mga nagrespond ng rejections siguro nasa 20 na at karamihan di na pumansin. Lahat seek.com.au. So medyo katulad nyo worried din ako na makakita work sa SA although SA talaga ang tingin kong maganda tirhan and I will still continue to try looking for work habang wala pa dun.

Interested lang ako malaman experience ng mga talaga hindi nagpaalam sa state or hindi man lang dumating dun... ang alam ko may mga iilan din na hindi man lang nasilayan yung sponsoring state due to different reasons like nagkaroon ng trabaho, pamilya, etc...

ano na naging status nila? at kinontak ba sila ng sponsoring state? at kung naapektuhan ba application nila for citizenship?

- rareking

netzkeenet · November 2014

@liannepot ask ko lang po how many months bago ka humingi ng release from sponsoring state. Thanks!

janucruz · November 2014

@anjcostelo ask ko lang upon arrival kailangan ba mag report sa ststes na nag sponsor sayo? Kc nag arrived nako dito sa NT pro wala ako ininform na gov. Office and 2nd question kung gusto kong gawin ang ginaws mo pwedi kaya sa status kung 489? And ilang months bago mo kinausap ang states? Hirap kc ako dito makahanap ng job

kremitz · December 2014

@janucruz as far as i know and read dito sa forum pag visa 489 po strict ata dun sa rule na live and work sa sponsoring state or designated area. Nkalagay po ata yun sa visa provision/restrictions nyo.

rareking · December 2014

@lock_code2004 @TasBurrfoot @TotoyOZresident @IslanderndCity @JCsantos atbp....

bump ko lang po itong katanungan ko baka meron magbigay ng payo lalo na sa mga beterano, guidance based on experience ng kakilala or personal experience...

---- Interested lang ako malaman experience ng mga talaga hindi nagpaalam sa state or hindi man lang dumating dun... ang alam ko may mga iilan din na hindi man lang nasilayan yung sponsoring state due to different reasons like nagkaroon ng trabaho, pamilya, etc...

ano na naging status nila? at kinontak ba sila ng sponsoring state? at kung naapektuhan ba application nila for citizenship?

Salamat po.

Very informative sharing po dito sa topic na ito. Thank you sa lahat ng mga nagshare ng kani-kanilang experiences. Ako din ay bound for SA and has a plan to honor the 2-yr obligation.

I have been applying before and after my visa grant. Lagay na nating for the past 4 months or more. Merong mga nagrespond ng rejections siguro nasa 20 na at karamihan di na pumansin. Lahat seek.com.au. So medyo katulad nyo worried din ako na makakita work sa SA although SA talaga ang tingin kong maganda tirhan and I will still continue to try looking for work habang wala pa dun.

Interested lang ako malaman experience ng mga talaga hindi nagpaalam sa state or hindi man lang dumating dun... ang alam ko may mga iilan din na hindi man lang nasilayan yung sponsoring state due to different reasons like nagkaroon ng trabaho, pamilya, etc...

ano na naging status nila? at kinontak ba sila ng sponsoring state? at kung naapektuhan ba application nila for citizenship?

- rareking

janucruz · December 2014

@kremitz oo nga kaya tsaga namuna after 2 years tsaka na mag adjust ulit tnx

kremitz · December 2014

Ganun n nga cgro @ janucruz. Olng yan dika papabayaan n lord

kapit lng

kremitz · December 2014

Ganun n nga cgro @ janucruz. Ok lng yan dika papabayaan n lord

kapit lng

IslanderndCity · December 2014

@lock_code2004 @TasBurrfoot @TotoyOZresident @IslanderndCity @JCsantos atbp....

bump ko lang po itong katanungan ko baka meron magbigay ng payo lalo na sa mga beterano, guidance based on experience ng kakilala or personal experience...

---- Interested lang ako malaman experience ng mga talaga hindi nagpaalam sa state or hindi man lang dumating dun... ang alam ko may mga iilan din na hindi man lang nasilayan yung sponsoring state due to different reasons like nagkaroon ng trabaho, pamilya, etc...

ano na naging status nila? at kinontak ba sila ng sponsoring state? at kung naapektuhan ba application nila for citizenship?

Salamat po.

Very informative sharing po dito sa topic na ito. Thank you sa lahat ng mga nagshare ng kani-kanilang experiences. Ako din ay bound for SA and has a plan to honor the 2-yr obligation.

I have been applying before and after my visa grant. Lagay na nating for the past 4 months or more. Merong mga nagrespond ng rejections siguro nasa 20 na at karamihan di na pumansin. Lahat seek.com.au. So medyo katulad nyo worried din ako na makakita work sa SA although SA talaga ang tingin kong maganda tirhan and I will still continue to try looking for work habang wala pa dun.

Interested lang ako malaman experience ng mga talaga hindi nagpaalam sa state or hindi man lang dumating dun... ang alam ko may mga iilan din na hindi man lang nasilayan yung sponsoring state due to different reasons like nagkaroon ng trabaho, pamilya, etc...

ano na naging status nila? at kinontak ba sila ng sponsoring state? at kung naapektuhan ba application nila for citizenship?

- rareking

wala pa akong personal kakilala nor actual experience. pero dahil na din sa pagbabasa sa forums both pinoyau and expat..., madami na din cases na after few months sa sponsoring state nila, walang work pa din, formally (written with supporting documents like job application rejection letters/emails) and professionally asked permission sa state na lilipat to other state. although majority sa forums, safer pa din ang advise nila, which is, serve 2 years muna sa state mo bago lipat. as of now, may other state ka na target aside from SA? why?

RepotSirc · April 2015

Anyone here knows kung anung email address mag-eemail para magrequest ng release sa moral obligation ko from South Australia?

Though 11 months nakung nagtratrabaho sa company ko, d na rin maganda ang situation ng employer ko lately. Nagkaron na kami ng maraming redanduncy at one month nakong walang project so nagdedelikado na, hindi lang mga empleyado kundi pati rin buong company. I am looking for opportunities in Sydney at meron nmn nakapansin saken nag-undergo nako ng ilang phone interviews at feeling ko magiging maganda nmn ang result and I am planning to grab it kung maibigay man saken. Mas maganda sana kung makapag-paalam aku ng maaga.

Thanks in advance.

RepotSirc · April 2015

@RepotSirc [email protected] yung email kung san ako ng email ng letter of release request. hindi na ako nag email sa CO kasi based sa mga nabasa ko sa ibang forum, hindi naman daw kasi immigration matter yung moral obligation. actually, nag take risk lang ako kasi sa isang forum may nabasa ako na nag email sila tapos hindi sila pinayagan na mag interstate. Nasa pagkaka construct na lang din siguro ng letter yun. Kung paano majjustisfy yung request.

Ngaun lang aku nakabasa ulit dito salamat sa information!

IslanderndCity · April 2015

@RepotSirc musta? nagreply na po sila? 11 months ka sa company then sa SA mismo how long na?

Arch_Onin · November 2015

Share ko lang po dito ung napagusapan namin ng Australian Lawyer na friend ko dito sa VIC. Bale state sponsored ako sa WA. Ang advise nya skin if ever may work ako dito sa VIC pero gusto ko maregister ako na nagsstay din sa WA ay ang pagiging "DOMICILE". google nyo na lang po ung meaning nung word na yun. Bale kelangan ko lang magstay kahit papano sa WA at magkaroon ng registered address sa WA pero hindi na kelangan pa magstay ng 2 years doon, kasi may point si lawyer, hindi naman mattrack un, ang importante ung bank statements, ID ( drivers license etc) nakaregister sa WA ang pangalan ko. Share lang sana makatulong

IslanderndCity · November 2015

@Arch_Onin pero kahit yung bank statement & driver's license mo registered sa WA, BUT nagwork ka sa VIC, wala bang traceability that you're working in VIC? and can you drive in VIC using a license registered in WA?

IslanderndCity · November 2015

Question: If you are sponsored by S.A. pero during sa BIG move mo ay sa ibang state ka lalapag for few days dahil may kaibigan ka lang i-meet doon example Feb 14 bago ka punta sa S.A. Feb 21, paano malaman ni S.A. na nasa S.A. ka na Feb 21? Kasi yung domestic flight na lapag mo S.A. ay yun na sana ang day 1 out of 2 years na necessary ka nasa S.A. di ba? So important ang date na yun

MSS · November 2015

@IslanderndCity based on my understanding lng..sabi sa letter sakin..i advise ko daw ang region if saan ako titira or any arrangements i have pgdating dun...probably ur proof wud be ur lease contract and other related docu to probe that you've moved in to their region and started to commit for that 2 yrs living period...correct me.for those who have tried this,please correct me if im wrong ..

MSS · November 2015

***prove

IslanderndCity · November 2015

@IslanderndCity based on my understanding lng..sabi sa letter sakin..i advise ko daw ang region if saan ako titira or any arrangements i have pgdating dun...probably ur proof wud be ur lease contract and other related docu to probe that you've moved in to their region and started to commit for that 2 yrs living period...correct me.for those who have tried this,please correct me if im wrong ..

So,
1. contract sa lease/rent ng house/room

MSS · November 2015

@IslanderndCity that's what i thought coz it would be your proof that u live in their region...and besides,you will notify them with ur address once you've moved in or prior to that I guess.

pinoyinau · November 2015

I arrived in my state sponsor and informed them about my arrival. I started to apply for a job and got interviews (phone, in personal but mostly agents) and rejections. I also tried applying jobs not related to my profession. I was looking for a job for a month or so and started to feel disappointment and frustrations. I then started to send applications in other states related to my profession to check the market and I received more responses (phone interviews only). So I decided to ask the state sponsor if I can apply for a job in other states and they told me that I have an obligation to stay in my nominated state for 2 years. I asked if I can just go back to nominated state after working in other state within the 5 year visa period in order to fulfill my obligation but I was informed to call immigration instead. I called immigration and asked them if I can apply for a job in other states. They told me that as far as they are concerned, I am a PR already. Thus I got a courage to entertain job interviews from other states. I still continued applying in my state sponsor and other states at that time. I got interviews also in nominated stated but I got job offers on my fourth month here in Australia but from two different states. I did not inform my state sponsor anymore as I hold the email sent to me to just call immigration which I did. I only contacted them when I needed to travel to Philippines for holiday because I am afraid that I cannot go back here anymore. I updated them about my new address and why I moved. The fear is always there, and only share my situation to close friends as I am afraid that I violated my visa one way or another and might affect my stay here. I always have what ifs questions and fear at the back of my mind until I applied for my citizenship. I am now an Aussie.

Note: I am not sharing this to encourage you not to fulfill your obligation. I did not have peace of mind during those years. There might be changes in the rule or it depends on your state sponsor and circumstances. Please note that I will not disclose the states where I should be and where I am now and the timelines.

dhey_almighty · November 2015

@pinoyinau nice...buti walang nagsumbong sayo..hehe

IslanderndCity · November 2015

@pinoyinau THANKS for sharing. so within the 5-year period, hindi ka na bumalik sa sponsor state mo after 4 months there?

pinoyinau · November 2015

@dhey_almighty even my close friends said that I did not violate anything.

pinoyinau · November 2015

@IslanderndCity I did not go back to my sponsoring state after staying more than 5 months before I moved where I am now.

dhey_almighty · November 2015

@pinoyinau e paano naman kaya ung mga PR na hinde man lamang nagreport or nagstay sa sponsoring state? may problema kaya yun!? :-)

pinoyinau · November 2015

@dhey_almighty I am not sure about it. Somehow maybe you need to show your intention to stay in your sponsoring state which I did. We agreed to stay 2 years in our sponsoring state so We need to show that there is an intention. I only moved to other state because I got the job offer from them. If I only had a job offer (any job) in my nominated state I will not move. I even applied jobs in coles, david jones and some shops but did not get any offer. I even paid $200 for resume wrtiting just to increase my chances. But there are more responses from other states than my sponsoring state for the same profession.