Previous Employer Closed Down

allanb · September 2012

Hi everyone,
I would just like to know what to do incase your previous employer closed down.
Need your comments.
Thanks.

legato09 · September 2012

Hi Allanb,

If that's the case and if your intention is to have your work reference might as well use an affidavit if you are in the Philippines or Statutory Declaration for commonwealth countries.

lock_code2004 · September 2012

@allanb - wala ka ba nakuha cert of employment before you left the company?

also, check if you can contact someone you work with (HR/previous manager/colleague) on that same company, who can confirm/sign your employment certificate/detailed job description..

cind3r3lla · September 2012

@allanb - aside from the generic COE, you may also include anything that reminds you of your previous work.

hindi ako gumamit ng affidavit dati kasi walang nakapag-advice sa akin non (hehe), but i included training certificates (from both in-house training and outsourced training na sponsored nila), evidence nung work ko (may instrument akong hawak and i have kept 2 hardcopies of its picture, hehe). ok naman. no questions asked from EA/DIAC.

legato09 · September 2012

@Allanb dami na suggestions nyan and living proof, asan kana? mukhang hinahanap mo na mga dating ka officemate mo ;-)

lock_code2004 · September 2012

haha.. oo nga biglang nawala ang nagtanong... wapak!!

allanb · September 2012

hi sorry, di lang me naka online lately... anyways, thanks sa mga comments nyo

jomel · January 2014

baka may sample affidavit kayo dyan for coe submitted to ACS. most of my companies are closed already so i will be preparing an affidavit detailing my job description signed by my previous boss ..aside sa affidavit anong klaseng supporting docs ang e submit to ACS to validate your employment? please help..thanks

jomel · February 2014

@lock_code2004 hi, maybe you can help me..kasi most of my previous employers nag close na. so ano ba ang dapat gawin dito? i'm collating docs for ACS assessment. mayron akong generic na COE pero walang job details.. so will my procedure be the same sa nabasa ko dito sa forum that i will just ask my supervisor to sign an affidavit detailing my job details and reasons why the company cannot provide a detail job description? for my supervisor, ano ba ang kailangan docs nya to support his affidavit for me?

thanks

lock_code2004 · February 2014

@lock_code2004 hi, maybe you can help me..kasi most of my previous employers nag close na. so ano ba ang dapat gawin dito? i'm collating docs for ACS assessment. mayron akong generic na COE pero walang job details.. so will my procedure be the same sa nabasa ko dito sa forum that i will just ask my supervisor to sign an affidavit detailing my job details and reasons why the company cannot provide a detail job description? for my supervisor, ano ba ang kailangan docs nya to support his affidavit for me?

thanks

yes.. supervisor's signature, i suggest, provide copy of ID/passport and contact details in case ACS wants to verify..

jomel · February 2014

@lock_code2004 thanks so much for your reply. follow up question lang, any type of ID ba ito.

additional na tanong, yong isang closed company ko ang immediate boss ko ay yong owner himself na nasa ibang bansa. i tried to ask him for his help pero di na talaga nag reply even with my frequent emails. tapos wala ng ibang work colleague na nag supervise sa akin. anong gagawin ko? baka may mga tao dito who share the same experience. please help.

lock_code2004 · February 2014

@jomel kung meron pa syang company ID mas okay.. Passport too..

Kahit hndi nagsupervise sayo basta alam nila kung ano job desc mo... Example HR nyo or manager sa kabilang team or dept..

jomel · February 2014

@lock_code2004 thanks..wala na ring ID passport nalang guro..thanks much!

Crackedtooth · April 2016

Hello all. May tanong lang ako at mejo off topic. Kasi waiting nadin kami ng wife ko sa visa. Nakumpleto namin lahat ng docs at pinasa / ni-lodged namin nung March 11. May consultant kami. Ngayon nag email sakin ang consultant sabi kung meron daw ako na previous employers na nag close kasi daw baka tinatawagan ng case officer at walang sumasagot , baka daw magka problema. Sabi ko naman meron, dalawang binili ng ibang kumpanya at nagiba ang pangalan at isa nag close last year. Yung tatlong companies na yan ay nakapag provide ako ng certificate of employment. Tanong ko lang kung meron ba akong kapareho na case dito na nakakuha padin ng visa. Maraming salamat po!

VicThor · April 2016

@Crackedtooth sa akin 2 kumpanya ko ang nagsara. basta notarised ang COE at meron kang payslip or ITR okay na yun. sa akin wala namang issues.

Crackedtooth · April 2016

@VicThor yung sakin certified true copy naman and cert of emp ko tapos dito ko na sa Sg pina certify. hintay nalang ako sa resulta. maraming salamat!

iam_juju · June 2016

VicThor said:
@Crackedtooth sa akin 2 kumpanya ko ang nagsara. basta notarised ang COE at meron kang payslip or ITR okay na yun. sa akin wala namang issues.

Hello! Just saw this, my prev employer has been closed already pero nakakuha ako ng COE with letterhead signed by the pathology head and manager, small laboratory lang kasi sya so walang HR, sila na din ang HR. Do i need to notarize the COE pa? An sinabi mo ba sa form 80 na closed na yung 2 employers mo? Thank you!

iam_juju · June 2016

Crackedtooth said:
@VicThor yung sakin certified true copy naman and cert of emp ko tapos dito ko na sa Sg pina certify. hintay nalang ako sa resulta. maraming salamat!

Hello! i just want to ask how did your application go? nagtanong ba ang CO about your closed employer? ano po pala sinubmit nyo na COE? notarized po b? Thank you! pasensya na need to know para magka idea ako same situation here.

VicThor · June 2016

@iam_juju basta yung sa akin notarised lahat, COE, payslip, ITR. sa form 80 ko hndi ko na sinabi na nagclose yung mga previous employer ko.

ang gawin mo hanap ka ng magtetestify na nagwork ka sa company na yun. e.g.former officemate or mas maganda kung yung manager or supervisor..

iam_juju · June 2016

@VicThor kung meron magtetestify ano po gagawin? Reference letter? Or sabihan ko lang muna sya tapos wait ko na lang magtanong si CO tsaka ko ibigay ang contact no. ganun ba? Nagclaim ka ng points sa 2 employers mo na closed db?

VicThor · June 2016

@iam_juju oo nagclaim ako dun sa isa kasi 3yrs din ako dun. yung isa naman mga 3 mos lang hehe.. gawa ka ng affidavit kahit hindi pa nagrerequest ang CO mo para ready na lahat ng docs para mas mabilis ang processing ng application mo.

yung iba dito sa forum nagfront load na ng mga form 80 at iba pang mga documents kahit hindi pa hinihingi ng CO. ang resulta direct grant sila.

iam_juju · June 2016

@VicThor anong klaseng affidavit para alam ko sasabihin ko sa abogado sorry ha makulit hehe pag meron na ako nyan iupload ko na din kasabay ng mga major docs? May tanong pa pala ako, yung COE mo may letterhead, signed by HR? DG din po kayo?

VicThor · June 2016

@iam_juju affidavit from third party. sasabihin ng reference mo na nagwork ka sa company na yun at sasabihin nya yung detailed tasks and responsibilities mo. ipagawa mo sa lawyer mo alam nya na yun. yes dapat may letterhead ang COE mo at signed ng HR or direct supervisor mo. wag mong kalimutan ang contact details, detailed tasks and responsibilities, and compensation.

hindi ako DG. isa ako sa mga naging ermitanyo sa paghihintay ng grant hahaha..

iam_juju · June 2016

VicThor said:
@iam_juju affidavit from third party. sasabihin ng reference mo na nagwork ka sa company na yun at sasabihin nya yung detailed tasks and responsibilities mo. ipagawa mo sa lawyer mo alam nya na yun. yes dapat may letterhead ang COE mo at signed ng HR or direct supervisor mo. wag mong kalimutan ang contact details, detailed tasks and responsibilities, and compensation.

hindi ako DG. isa ako sa mga naging ermitanyo sa paghihintay ng grant hahaha..

I see nakita ko na timeline mo, humingi pala sayo ng evidence of employment ang CO mo, baking hindi mo ba sinama ang evidence of employment mo nung nagsubmit ka or addl proof ang hiningi sayo?

iam_juju · June 2016

@VicThor nagbigay ka din about ng affidavit from another person?

VicThor · June 2016

@iam_juju yes. nagpagawa ako tpos pinapirmahan ko lang sa kanya. then pinanotarise namin at pinasa sa EA.

iam_juju · June 2016

@VicThor sige papagawa na lang din ako. Pero nung naglodge ka ng visa sinabay mo din kasama ng itr, COE and payslips? Nung nacontact ang CO nag ask ba sya about your closed employer kaya nghingi ba sya ng addl proof or satisfied na sya sa mga pinasa mo? Sorry to bother you hope hindi ako nakakaistorbo. Nagmove ka na ba or pinas parin? Thanks

VicThor · June 2016

@iam_juju

Pero nung naglodge ka ng visa sinabay mo din kasama ng itr, COE and payslips? - ginamit ko kasi yung affidavit para sa EA assessment. nung naglodge na ako ng visa hindi naman sila nagtanong regarding sa nagclose na companies ko. yung company ko kasi branch office ng australian company. kaya humingi ako ng COE sa head office. gumawa lang ako ng draft ng COE at yun nagissue sila ng copy with their letterhead and contact details. sa case mo kung kaya mong makahingi sa head office nyo mas maganda siguro. isubmit mo na lang lahat. itr, coe, payslips

Nung nacontact ang CO nag ask ba sya about your closed employer kaya nghingi ba sya ng addl proof or satisfied na sya sa mga pinasa mo? - hindi na sya nag-usisa sa closed companies ko. kuntento na sya siguro dun sa coe, itr, at payslips ko. yung additional proof of employment na hiningi nya eh yun yung galing sa ATO(Australian Tax Office) para maverify nya yung number of australian work experience ko. gnawa nya yun para maverify nya kung tama yung number of points ko para sa 189 visa.

Nagmove ka na ba or pinas parin? - nung 2012 pumunta ako rito sa australia as temporary skilled(457 visa) worker. nung makuha ko yung 3 yrs experience dito sa oz tska pa lang ako nagaplay ng visa 189. hindi na ako nagpasponsor para malaya ako hehe..