EOI club

mark_y · September 2012

@wynx So are you going to proceed with your SS? Give us an update ha...

wynx · September 2012

@mark_y ill start with VIC SS. as of the moment, i will not do anything with my EOI. since hindi pa naman daw nila kailangan ang EOI agad agad. but i still have high hopes na sa coming round SEpt 15. masasama na taung mga 65 pointers.

TasBurrfoot · September 2012

ayan buhay na ang mga accountants!

wynx · September 2012

@psychoboy hehehe.. thanks

mark_y · September 2012

@psychoboy ano pala nominated occupation mo? Sana marami pang mag contribute ng experiences nila d2.... [-O<

TasBurrfoot · September 2012

@mark_y - believe me we are still in the very early stage... i work in a bank and it will be my wife that is going to be the main applicant, just like you guys she is an accountant.

we are currently waiting for the CPA Australia skills assessments results, hope hindi sasabit. it has been a week na since we posted it...

wynx · September 2012

@psychoboy kayang kaya natin to. don't worry

mark_y · September 2012

@psychoboy Ganun ba, don't worry we'll pray for a positive result...based on other forums, it might take a month for CPA Australia to finalize the results....just relax bro... :>

TasBurrfoot · September 2012

@psychoboy Ganun ba, don't worry we'll pray for a positive result...based on other forums, it might take a month for CPA Australia to finalize the results....just relax bro... :>

Yup... yup!!

The important thing now is to learn then most that I can so that it will be easier moving forward.

Thanks @mark_y - all the best to you as well!

issa · September 2012

Hi, question lang po. ilang beses in a month nag iinvite ang DIAC? after ng Sept 1? sept 15 na lang ulit?

TasBurrfoot · September 2012

Hi, question lang po. ilang beses in a month nag iinvite ang DIAC? after ng Sept 1? sept 15 na lang ulit?

As per an announcement in their website - it will be Sept 1 and Sept 15 with 400 189s to be handed out per round.

I suppose the timing of handing out of invitation will be done every fortnight na just like what they are doing in New Zealand. As to the number of invites, I have a feeling they will increase it again come October.

issa · September 2012

@psychoboy, Thanks! For applicant like me na naghihintay rin ng SS, umaasa ako na sync sila para di naman nasasayang ang oras

TasBurrfoot · September 2012

@psychoboy, Thanks! For applicant like me na naghihintay rin ng SS, umaasa ako na sync sila para di naman nasasayang ang oras

What is your score by the way? And when did you submit your EOI?

issa · September 2012

score ko 65 points lang, July 1 ako nag submit ng EOI then nagpasa naman ako ng SS Aug 2. SS lang kasi option ko kasi Sys Ad yung nominated occupation ko.

TasBurrfoot · September 2012

score ko 65 points lang, July 1 ako nag submit ng EOI then nagpasa naman ako ng SS Aug 2. SS lang kasi option ko kasi Sys Ad yung nominated occupation ko.

Don't lose hope!

I did some trending analysis on the results sa first round. Now that we know na 400 invites in the September rounds plus assuming that the quality/quantity of applicants is more or less the same as those who applied in the 1st round - I believe you will have a very good chance to be picked lalo na you applied pala last July 1.

For sure one of the first ka sa order when they have finished the 70 pointer...

issa · September 2012

Thanks Psychoboy

kelangan pa rin kasi maghintay ng SS from SA. Nakakakaba rin pero medyo malayo na nilakbay nitong AUS dream ko kaya walang sukuan!

Di ko nga akalain na makakapagpasa ako dahil kapos sa points at salamat talaga Dyos at nagbaba ang DIAC.

TasBurrfoot · September 2012

Thanks Psychoboy kelangan pa rin kasi maghintay ng SS from SA. Nakakakaba rin pero medyo malayo na nilakbay nitong AUS dream ko kaya walang sukuan! Di ko nga akalain na makakapagpasa ako dahil kapos sa points at salamat talaga Dyos at nagbaba ang DIAC.

Teka, you applied for both 189 and 190 tama ba?

As far as I know kasi, SA is "seloso" sa EOI mo; diba they only want to see 190 and SA in your EOI? Otherwise they will make it a ground for non-granting of SS...

Correct me if I am wrong here though.

baronann · September 2012

@psychoboy you are correct. That is one of the grounds na they will turn down the application. Ayaw nila na may kasabay na iba. It was clearly mentioned in the website.
@issa you might want to review your application again, sayang naman

issa · September 2012

190 lang

correct, ganun nga gusto ng SA, isa lang talaga. yung nominated occupation ko kasi di talaga pwede sa 189 kasi nasa SOL2 sya before na ang option is sponsorship lang. btw, i saw your post sa kabilang thread about COE, ganyan din problem ko dati pero di na ako nag statutory declaration. nagpapirma lang ako sa mga dati kong boss to specify yung mga tasks or roles ko sa work then attach ko sya dun sa pinaka COE.

issa · September 2012

@baronann, medyo nagtataka ako sa SS ko, nag submit ako Aug 2 tapos Aug 23 lang ako naka receive lng letter from SA na successfully submitted yung application ko.in your case naka receive ka ba immediately after mong mag submit? hehehe sorry kung wrong thread ang question.

TasBurrfoot · September 2012

190 lang correct, ganun nga gusto ng SA, isa lang talaga. yung nominated occupation ko kasi di talaga pwede sa 189 kasi nasa SOL2 sya before na ang option is sponsorship lang. btw, i saw your post sa kabilang thread about COE, ganyan din problem ko dati pero di na ako nag statutory declaration. nagpapirma lang ako sa mga dati kong boss to specify yung mga tasks or roles ko sa work then attach ko sya dun sa pinaka COE.

I see... Anyway, I read in the other forum that SA SS is already taking a more longer time na daw. So konting hintay hintay lang...

Re: COE - badtrip lang din kasi mga ex-bossings ng wife are no longer connected with the firm so ayun, sariling sikap talaga!

issa · September 2012

@Psychoboy, pwede kahit colleague or yung co worker.

TasBurrfoot · September 2012

@Psychoboy, pwede kahit colleague or yung co worker.

We submitted a self-initiated statutory declaration. We shall see how it goes, wala naman rule yung CPAA against using a self stat dec...

Anyway, I wonder what is the stand on DIAC regarding this?

cchamyl · September 2012

kuha ko lang sa expat, share ko na rin dito...
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EOI - The Earlier The Better
As you all know, the Skill Select has kicked in today. From now on, aspiring immigrants would have to submit an Expression of Interest (EOI) to the DIAC to be considered for a visa.

Applicants are ranked based on different factors including Age, English language ability, Skilled employment, Educational qualifications, Australian study requirements and some other factors (Partner Skills and so on) - but you would not be able to view your rank.

Why?

Because it will keep changing as "better" EOIs are made.

Now coming back to the topic.

Why should you make the EOI without any delay?

There are two main reasons.

1. Points-tie
Person A makes an EOI for a particular occupational code. Person B, a day later, makes the EOI for the same occupational code.
Now suppose that both have 65 points.

What would happen?

Skill Select is a point based system.
In case of a points-tie, the person to make the first EOI gets the preference. So in our example Person A gets the preference.

But what exactly is taken into account here is the time you submitted your EOI or the time at which you make an update to your EOI causing your points score or visa eligibility to change - whichever is later.
Now suppose Person C has filed his EOI on 1st July with 60 points and Person D files on 2nd July with 70 points.
Few days later, Person C receives a higher IELTS score (may be through EOR) and updates the EOI to have 70 points.
Now that both of them have the same point score, who will have the ranking preference?
You guessed it, it's D - because C's last updated time (causing points score or visa eligibility to change) is after D's.

Most applicants would be getting scores between 60 and 80.
With thousands of applicants, that means there will a high number of point-ties which will lead to the early applications being pushed up in priority among the similarly scoring ones.

So it goes without saying that you should make your EOI at the earliest if you have your skills assessed and possess a favourable IELTS result.

2. Occupation Ceiling
Skill Select would help DIAC to streamline issuing PRs.
The provision to specify an occupation ceiling has been incorporated into the Skill Select to do this efficiently.

What is an Occupation Ceiling?

It is simply a number - the number of applicants that would be granted a visa in a particular occupational group.
An occupational group is the set of all occupations that come under the 4 digit unit group level of the ANZSCO.

For example, group 2613 is for SOFTWARE AND APPLICATIONS PROGRAMMERS. The occupations that come under this group are:

261311 Analyst Programmer
261312 Developer Programmer
261313 Software Engineer
261314 Software Tester
261399 Software and Applications Programmers nec

How would the occupational ceiling be specified?

It will be specified as a number that holds good for a program year from 1 July 2012 - it will not be divided into a monthly amounts.
An example would be 5160 (as per reports) for the group 2613 (SOFTWARE AND APPLICATIONS PROGRAMMERS).

What does this mean?
Only 5160 people from the group 2613 will be given a visa in the particular program year.

What happens when the ceiling is reached?
Once the occupation ceiling is reached, no further invitations for that occupation group will be issued.
That means, after 5160 invites have been send out to the group 2613 (and all of them applies for the visa within 60 days), someone who makes an EOI even with 80 points will not receive an invite in the same program year!

So what can we conclude?
As the ceiling is for a year, there is little chance that it gets used up in the initial months of the program year.
As the program year keeps progressing, more and more visas get issued and the total inches towards the ceiling.
So a person who applies in July or August 2012 is more likely to get an invite to apply for the visa than someone who applies in May or June 2013!

In short - the earlier you apply, the better!

References
The benefits of submitting an expression of interest on 1 July | Migration Blog
Busting the myths about SkillSelect | Migration Blog
The benefits of submitting an expression of interest on 1 July | Migration Blog

so do you mean that even if i don't have my skills assessment and haven't taken IELTS... i should lodge an application? when you say lodge an EOI... do you mean the time you submitted it... what if the EOI account was just created and do not have any details yet?

dancingmama · September 2012

Hi guys, i am new in this forum, so glad may forum na ganito....

Metaform · September 2012

@dancingmama Pamilyar ang timeline mo ateng. Congratulations ngayon pa lang. Hirap daw makapasa ang IT ngayon sa Victoria.

hotshot · September 2012

@dancingmama : congrats po! you're one step closer!

pansin ko lang po September 7th nyo pa bibigay EOI number nyo which is bukas pa....why not today? hehehe

dancingmama · September 2012

@Metaform sir tanong ko lang po, kasi yung Victoria SS nag request na isend ko na daw sa kanila yung EOI number ko para sa invite, ganaano katagal pa para mareceive ko yung invite via skillselect?

Metaform · September 2012

@dancingmama I assume it depends kung kailan ang go signal ng diac for the next round. Inabot pa rin ng kasi two weeks before I got invited. Pero send the EOI asap malay mo ma-receive mo na yung invite agad-agad now na!

dancingmama · September 2012

@Metaform thanks sa reply. na send ko na kanina pa.... heheh sana bukas lumabas na yung invite. pareho tayo ng code...sa victoria karin pala... baka sabay pa tayo ng punta dun sa OZ..
pagnakakuha na tayo ng visa (god willing) eh makahanap na tayo ng work bago punta dun...