Recognized Philippine Schools by "Australia..."

tootzkie · August 2011

475 = 3-year provisional visa to permanent visa. (10 pts. state sponsorship)
176 = 5-year permanent visa (5 pts. state sponsorship)
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Guys,akala ko natapos na ang issue sa ACS noong old ASCO at new ANSZCO nang mawala ang Computing Professional NEC at napalitan ng new occupations. Hindi pa pala nagtatapos.

Sa analysis ko, kapag binigyan ka ng assessment ng ACS as GROUP A, it means that you have a qualification assessed as comparable to the educational level of an Australian Qualifications Framework (AQF) Bachelor (undergraduate) degree. May mga applicants na nasa section 2 and 3 pero nag-fall sa GROUP A. Remember, hindi tumitingin ang ACS sa school sectioning. Tumitingin ang ACS sa ICT subjects taken or vendor qualification at work experience.

Marami nang nagtanong sa ACS kung mabibigyan ba sila ng 15 pts kung nag-fall sila sa GROUP A. Ang palaging sagot ng ACS, depende daw yun sa DIAC. So meaning, hindi ACS ang nagdi-decide kung may 15 pts ka ba talaga. Nasa DIAC daw talaga ang final say.

Meaning walang coordination ang DIAC at ACS. Kung sa ACS ay comparable ang degree mo sa Australian Education, may iba namang judgment and DIAC.

Hanggang ngayon malabo pa rin kung saan tumitingn ang DIAC. Kung sa result ba ng assessment letter o sa school sectioning. Kasi kung hindi tumitingin ang DIAC sa school sectioning, bakit pa ito ginawa di ba? Bakit meron pang section 1, 2 or 3 kung hindi rin naman pala gagamitin for migration.

Conclusion: Dapat safe ka sa points when lodging application. Kung nasa section 2 or 3 ka, initially i-consider mo na lang muna na 10 pts ka sa overseas qualification. Sayang kasi ang binayad mo kung made-deny ka.

Opinyon ko lang to.

icebreaker1928 · August 2011

Conclusion: Dapat safe ka sa points when lodging application. Kung nasa section 2 or 3 ka, initially i-consider mo na lang muna na 10 pts ka sa overseas qualification. Sayang kasi ang binayad mo kung made-deny ka.

Opinyon ko lang to.

same analysis here bro, kaya dapat target is 8 sa IELTS on all bands para 20 pts...
GOD have mercy on us when we take the test

tootzkie · August 2011

Conclusion: Dapat safe ka sa points when lodging application. Kung nasa section 2 or 3 ka, initially i-consider mo na lang muna na 10 pts ka sa overseas qualification. Sayang kasi ang binayad mo kung made-deny ka.

Opinyon ko lang to.

same analysis here bro, kaya dapat target is 8 sa IELTS on all bands para 20 pts...
GOD have mercy on us when we take the test

Bro, sobra naman yata bakit 8 ? sobrang hirap nun. Band 7 lang ok na.

Kapag kinapos ka ng points mag-475 route ka na lang.

gemini23 · August 2011

Hello! I just joined today. Saan po ba makikitang website para malaman if my university is recognised by Australian government?

therealaids · August 2011

@gemini23 for what purpose po ate?

LokiJr · August 2011

@gemini23, ito po http://www.pinoyau.info/plugin/page/accredited-schools
Section 1 pinaka ok...section 2 at 3 kailangan ng additional documentations

gemini23 · August 2011

just checking out in what section included ang university...I'm thinking of applying for visa as well... anyway I saw already...Thanks sa reply.

batman · October 2011

hala pano pag half section 3 (first 2 yrs) half section 2. (another 2yrs)

aolee · October 2011

hmm magandang tanong yan

panu coconsider to ng DIAC?

batman · October 2011

naku lalong yata ako pahihirapan pag collect ng supporting docs nito. pag sinuswerte nga naman

ajet02 · October 2011

tanong ko lang po kung anung magandang visa for a UP engineering graduate? thanks po

batman · October 2011

@ajet02 mag skilled 175 ka, section 1 naman school nyo comparable to bachelors degree sa AU ang mga graduate ng bachelor degree from UP

batman · October 2011

basahin mo ang details sa immi.gov.au and hurry kasi may changes na sa July 2012.

LokiJr · October 2011

@ajet02, maraming visa options (175, 457, 121, 176)...nakakahilo siya aralin lahat kaya mas mainam basa ka muna ng mga threads natin dito para alam mo yung eksaktong visa na babagay sayo

Mapalad ka nga UP ka nagtapos, walang problema sa pagclaim ng points

kidrock · October 2011

better catch up before july 2012, otherwise you can't lodge application anymore, instead the australian goverment would be the one to pick who they want. and its called expression of interest..

batman · October 2011

i just hope AU will pick me hehehe. after all i can help peace & order.

alexamae · November 2011

@gemini23, ito po http://www.pinoyau.info/plugin/page/accredited-schools
Section 1 pinaka ok...section 2 at 3 kailangan ng additional documentations

Ano po kayang extra documentations ang kaylangan sir? Section 2 kasi ang school namin.

lifehouse28 · November 2011

hey guys, i think as long as you are assessed under Group A then you should get 15 points for overseas qualifications. I have friends who are already there, one is an accountant from PUP and the other is a software engineer from PLM. Both these schools are in section 2. In the case of my accountant schoolmate, she was assessed under Group A. The other friend is in Group B (PLM) but he said he was able to claim the maximum point for qualification. I guess it is because he had a Masters in La Salle? I was actually surprised since PLM is a good school and he graduated Magna Cum Laude in that college, so how come he was assessed under group B? Ang suspetsa ko di maayos ang pagpasa ng documents ng migration agent nya dito sa singapore (laki pa naman ng bayad). Anyway everything is okay now and he was able to get the approval in less than a year.

So sa mga section 2 schools, wag tayo mawalan ng pag-asa. Pero mas maganda nga na sobra tayo sa points just in case lang.

tootzkie · November 2011

@lifehouse28 Maybe your friends applied their visa before July 2011. Remember that the issue on school sectioning escalated when the new pointing system was introduced.

It's not the migration agent to be blamed of, even he was summa cum laude and he lacks the ICT subjects for his nominated occupation then ACS will put him in Group B.

ACS doesn't look at your grades and school when they assess your papers. What they weigh up most are the major ICT subjects taken. If they satisfy the ICT subjects you had taken in conjunction with the nominated occupation you are applying, then they will put you in Group A, nevertheless Group B requires more experience to outweigh insufficiency of ICT subjects taken.

Example of Group A:
Nominated Occupation: Analyst Programmer
School : TUP (section 2)
Course: BS Computer Science

Example of Group B:
Nominated Occupation: ICT Business Analyst
School: UP Diliman (section 1)
Course: BS Mathematics (with specialization in Operations Research and Analysis)

Friends ko sila at nakita ko mismo ang positive assessment letters.

Note: About aiming for 15 pts for overseas qualification. I'm sorry to tell you that ACS is not in the position of providing 15 pts. (per their email). It's DIAC who has the finaly say on this, and they have their own criteria in awarding of points (i.e. school sectioning, masters degree, PRC license, good grades, etc).

lifehouse28 · November 2011

@tootzkie, I don't think its the case of not having enough ICT subjects since his degree is BS Computer Science. But he did apply before July 1 2011 so possible that it was not that strict when it comes to schools sectioning prior to that period? I'm just making an assumption here since we really don't know how DIAC grant scores for our qualifications.

tootzkie · November 2011

@lifehouse, OLD pointing system is completely different from the NEW system. Passing before is 120 pts. Educational attainment had no bearing in getting sufficient points. There was no points for college degree. Even high school graduate with a Hairdresser occupation can get 120 pts.

LokiJr · November 2011

@alexamae, backread po kayo sa thread na to at dun sa isa pang thread tungkol sa schools...nakaoutline po doon yung mga kailangang documents.

Correct me if I'm wrong pero sa Section 2 may grade requirement ata (or section 3 ba yun?)

icebreaker1928 · November 2011

guys... nagdownload ako ng bagong PASAGuidelines kasi balak ko ipa-assess wife ko para makakuha ng addl 5 pts at may nakita akong part about recognition letter... it says

4 - Recognition Letter
 This is for applicants that already hold a skills assessment and require a recognition letter for ICT Educational Qualifications or ICT Skilled Employment experience or applicants requiring a stand-alone recognition letter for ICT Educational Qualifications or ICT Skilled Employment to submit to DIAC when applying for a GSM visa. Please note: A Recognition Letter is NOT a skills assessment and a positive Skills Assessment is still required by DIAC.
 The assessment recognition letter will report the applicants ICT Educational Qualifications as comparable to the Australian Qualifications Framework (AQF) and ICT Skilled Employment skill level in relation to the nominated occupation ANZSCO code for Points Test purposes only.

Does this mean they can now assess our Educational Qualification? another fee? tama ba intindi ko?

ito nga pala yung link...
http://www.acs.org.au/public/ska/docs/PASAGuidelinesforApplicants_July 2011 v4.0.pdf

tootzkie · November 2011

@icebreaker1928 : yes you can ask ACS to provide you Recognition Letter in lieu of your overseas educational qualification but the maximum point they can give you is 10 pts only. Still useless.

aolee · November 2011

grey area pa rin talaga ung pag bigay ng diac ng points.

sa ACS na galing

"While the ACS is able to advise applicants regarding the relevance of the ICT content of their educational qualifications and skilled employment within their nominated occupation, the final decision in awarding points remains with DIAC."

icebreaker1928 · November 2011

@icebreaker1928 : yes you can ask ACS to provide you Recognition Letter in lieu of your overseas educational qualification but the maximum point they can give you is 10 pts only. Still useless.

really sir 10 pts only? san po mababasa yan?
kala ko pa naman pede nila iconfirm kung equivalent ka sa Bachelors degree ng AU.
its useless nga kung ganon, ang mahal pa naman ng fee sa recognition letter nila, 400AUD tsk tsk tsk..

cinnamon20 · November 2011

Ok itong discussion na ito.. Ako din short ng points.. 15 points

... 10 points kung makakuha ng 7 lahat sa IELTS... Graduate ako ng CEU at nung inaccess ako ng ACS eh group A ang sabi.. Gusto ko din magpa points advice na...

aldousnow · November 2011

bat walang Pamantasan ng Lungsod ng Maynila sa accredited schools???

LokiJr · November 2011

^ Check niyo po "University" or "Manila" sa list...

veenus18ph · November 2011

hi aolee... im an international student here in Sydney. updated po ba yung accredited schools na nandito sa list? kasi sa pagkakaalam ko may updated list na.