Australian Computer Society Skills Application

aprilcruise · September 2012

@legato09

ang tagal kasi magbigay nung 1st company ko, parang iniipit. walang ba alternative document na pwede ipasa like certificate na binigay nila right after ng resignation ko kaso walang nakalagay dun na duties and responsibilities pero may company details, position and length of stay.

pati ba yung passport pwede na notary public lang? may nagsabi kasi sakin sa DFA daw kinukuha yung certified true copy ng passport.

lock_code2004 · September 2012

gusto ko lang po manigurado. hehe. graduate po ako ng AMA so katumbas nya is AU Diploma. bs computer science natapos ko. ang work exp ko is IT associate, programmer, senior software eng, systems analyst team lead ako ngyon. analyst programmer naman ang nominated occupation ko sa acs. so closely related nman yung mga exp ko sa natapos ko dba so 5 years ang need kong experience. pasencya na. kulit ko hehe

i think the answer to your question is in here:

http://www.acs.org.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0016/7324/Summary-of-Criteria.pdf

so based sa mga taga AMA na nagpa-assess.. nabasa ko dito na, AMA BS degree is equivalent to AU Diploma... looking at the table in the link, 5 yrs ang required working experience to have a successful assessment..

lock_code2004 · September 2012

@legato09

ang tagal kasi magbigay nung 1st company ko, parang iniipit. walang ba alternative document na pwede ipasa like certificate na binigay nila right after ng resignation ko kaso walang nakalagay dun na duties and responsibilities pero may company details, position and length of stay.

pati ba yung passport pwede na notary public lang? may nagsabi kasi sakin sa DFA daw kinukuha yung certified true copy ng passport.

check the same link i posted above.. and the reply i gave to @stynx..

so in your case, depende sa bachelor degree at school mo...

a) if your school's BS degree is equivalent to AU BS degree (IT related), then requirement is 2 yrs of work experience...

so assuming ganun nga, pwde kana magpaasses, kahit wala na ung 1st company detailed job description, kasi pasok na sa 3 years young 2nd company mo....

you can proceed with the assessment, and while waiting for the result, brasuhin mo ang 1st company, because you will need that for the DIAC's points on work experience =>5 yrs (10pts), compared to 3yrs work (5pts)

b) if your school's BS degree is equivalent to AU diploma, then requirement is 5 yrs of work exp..
- therefore, kailangan mo macomplete ang lahat ng job description mo to have suitable assessment....

Now, pano mo malalaman lahat yan, magcheck ka dito sa forum nga kapareho mo ng school at degree... or check another way to check is if your school is classified as Section 1 in the school classification list..

stynx · September 2012

thank you @lock_code2004

@aprilcruise yung passport mo ipaphotocopy mo lang tapos ipacertify true copy mo sa atty.

aprilcruise · September 2012

thank you po sa mga sagot @lock_code2004 and @stynx

diploma ko po from (BSU) bulacan state university. graduate ako ng bachelor of science in computer engineering. So as of now, i have 5yrs work experience as developer/programmer from May 2007 up to now within 3 companies. yung 1st year ko sa 1st company ko ang ayaw mgbigay ng certificate of duties and responsibilities. nanghihinayang naman ako na di isama kasi bka mamaya hindi pa ako makapasa dahil kulang pa. pero kung sa tingin nyo e papasa ako at OK na yun mag go go na ko!

hirap kac mgintay ng mgintay kung ayaw nman tlga ibigay nung 1st company ko.

stynx · September 2012

@aprilcruise bka naman pwede mo kausapin ang supervisor or manager mo kay company 1. gawa ka ng statutory declaration (affidavit dto sa pinas) tapos papirmahan mo sa supervisor mo. may sample format dto ng stat declaration basta pagkapirma ng sup mo ipanotaryo mo. ganun din kasi ginawa ko sa first company ko dahil standard coe lang ang binigay sakin.

aprilcruise · September 2012

@stynx cge po search ko ung format ng statutory declaration..

question pa po.sensya na daming tanong. mas mabuti na magtanong sa expert kesa sumabak ako e mamali pa. ilang copies po ba ng requirement ang kailangan ko panotaryo? ibibigay po ba ung notarized copies sa ACS and DIAC?

stynx · September 2012

d ako expert pero base sa pinasa ko ung original copy ipaphotocopy mo tpos yun ang ipacertify true copy mo. dapat sabihin mo sa magnonotaryo yung word na certified true copies of the original eh nka indicate. dapat per page meron pirma ng atty. sa case ko ako na mismo nagsulat nun kc tinatamad atty hehe. tapos kung ok na lahat at napanotaryo mo na saka mo cya scan at yun ang isesend mo online sa acs. bali soft copy ang send sa acs.

stynx · September 2012

isang copy lang per document ang ipanotaryo kc yun na din mismo ang scan at send sa acs. basta per page my pirma. at double check mo maige yung mga dates kung kelan ka nagstart at nag leave sa company kc minsan namamali. basta double check mo maige. yung duties and responsibilities mo idetailed mo maige. hehe.

aprilcruise · September 2012

@stynx cge pos salamat update ko nlng kau

aprilcruise · September 2012

may idea po kayo kung saang page ko makikita yung format ng statutory declaration? di ko po kasi makita. thanks!

Bryann · September 2012

AMA din ako. Diploma equivalent siya so 10 points. You need at least 5 years experience. Although depende sa course mo kasi si icebreaker AMA din pero 15 points kasi COE course natapos niya. Depende din sa subjects.

aprilcruise · September 2012

nakita ko na po yung template. affidavit pla ang kailangan ko kasi nasa pinas ako. pakichek po kung tama yung content na gawa ko baka kc may kulang o kaya mali.... ipapanotaryo po ito diba? so ito na mismo yung iiscan at ipapasa sa ACS right?

AFFIDAVIT

            I, (name ni manager/supervisor) , Filipino citizen, of legal age, single, and a resident of (address ni manager/supervisor), after having been duly sworn in accordance with law, hereby depose and say:

I certify that was a full time employee of as from the period to .

As a she performed the following duties and responsibilities:
1) ......
2) .....

Further Affiant sayeth none.

            IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto affixed my signature this ......... day of ..................... , 20__ in ..................................... Philippines.

........................................................................  (signature ni manager/supervisor)
(Signature of Affiant over Printed Name)

            SUBSCRIBED AND SWORN before me this........ day of ........................... 20__, by ............................................. who exhibited to me his CTC No. ................................... issued on ................................. at ...........................................

stynx · September 2012

@brayann computer science ako grad so malamang AU Diploma nga. thanks.
@aprilcruise oo ganyan nga. ikaw na magtype at print ng mga needed info tapos kung ok na papirmahan mo na sa supervisor mo at notaryo na. lagyan mo din pala ng contact number ng supervisor at address ng company.

aprilcruise · September 2012

@stynx ok po..salamat ng madami..mas malinaw na sakin ngaun

cchamyl · September 2012

@stynx

hello... may balita ka na ba from ACS? hanggang ngayon stage 4 pa rin ako... marami yata nagpapa-assess ngayon...

stynx · September 2012

@cchamyl wla pa balita eh. saktong one week pa lang naman din since nagpasa ko. sa tingin ko medyo matagal pa antayin ko.
basta pag may result na balitaan tayo ha.

legato09 · September 2012

@legato09

ang tagal kasi magbigay nung 1st company ko, parang iniipit. walang ba alternative document na pwede ipasa like certificate na binigay nila right after ng resignation ko kaso walang nakalagay dun na duties and responsibilities pero may company details, position and length of stay.

pati ba yung passport pwede na notary public lang? may nagsabi kasi sakin sa DFA daw kinukuha yung certified true copy ng passport.
check the same link i posted above.. and the reply i gave to @stynx..

so in your case, depende sa bachelor degree at school mo...

a) if your school's BS degree is equivalent to AU BS degree (IT related), then requirement is 2 yrs of work experience...

so assuming ganun nga, pwde kana magpaasses, kahit wala na ung 1st company detailed job description, kasi pasok na sa 3 years young 2nd company mo....

you can proceed with the assessment, and while waiting for the result, brasuhin mo ang 1st company, because you will need that for the DIAC's points on work experience =>5 yrs (10pts), compared to 3yrs work (5pts)

b) if your school's BS degree is equivalent to AU diploma, then requirement is 5 yrs of work exp..
- therefore, kailangan mo macomplete ang lahat ng job description mo to have suitable assessment....

Now, pano mo malalaman lahat yan, magcheck ka dito sa forum nga kapareho mo ng school at degree... or check another way to check is if your school is classified as Section 1 in the school classification list..

Thanks Lock_code for the explanation, complete na sya with option and suggestion hehehe

about po sa School Sectioning, ang AMA University in QC is under Section 2, the rest of AMA Schools fall under section 3.

Automatic po ba na kapag galing ng Section 1 regardless kung anong course basta degree eh yun din ang equivalent sa OZ?

For Section 2 naman, kapag degree ka eh Diploma lang ang equivalent sa Oz?

Kapag Section 3 naman?

calai_88 · September 2012

hello po ... question meron po ba sa inyo ngaaply ng developer/programmer ?..kelngan po ba ba specify sa reference letter from the company yung mga ginamit nyong technologies? like language na ginammit java, php . sql..etcc ? salamat madami

stynx · September 2012

@claireroyeras analyst programmer ang nominated occupation ko. pwedeng ikaw na gumawa ng draft pra talagang sigurado ka sa mga nakalagay na job scopes. tapos yun ang pakita mo sa hr pra may idea cya or pwedeng yun na rin mismo ang iprint nya sa company letterhead. basta ang importante ay yung word na full time, employment dates, country of employment, contact number ng hr or senior mo. ang ginawa ko kasi pati mga clients nilagay ko din at language used. mas ok kung mailagay mo pero d naman required.

stynx · September 2012

@legato09
ang pagkakaalam ko depende sa school at course. kasi may nabasa din ako na graduate ng AMA at computer engineering siya pero bachelors degree ang binigay sa kanya. depende din kasi sa mga subjects at units. pero hintayin din natin ang reply ng iba.

lock_code2004 · September 2012

Thanks Lock_code for the explanation, complete na sya with option and suggestion hehehe

about po sa School Sectioning, ang AMA University in QC is under Section 2, the rest of AMA Schools fall under section 3.

Automatic po ba na kapag galing ng Section 1 regardless kung anong course basta degree eh yun din ang equivalent sa OZ?

For Section 2 naman, kapag degree ka eh Diploma lang ang equivalent sa Oz?

Kapag Section 3 naman?

Hi, check this information shared by one of our members @psychoboy:

as per the website of Australian Education International, they give guidelines as to how section 1, 2 or 3 schools can be comparable to the educational level of the AQF qualification.

Usually kapag section 1, walang problema ka as they are usually comparable to a bachelors degree in Australia; worth noting are as follows:

Section 3 institutions can be comparable to a bachelor's degree in Australia if:
(1) Bachelor Degree in a professional discipline with (a) 4 or 5 years full-time education, (b) 120-200 credits and (c) Evidence of passing the Professional Regulation Commission’s Licensure Examinations in the relevant professional field.

Section 2 institutions can be comparable to a bachelor's degree in Australia if:
(1) Bachelor Degree with (a) 4 years full-time education, (b) 120-185 credits and (c) Average grade of 1.00 to 2.00, (A to B, or more than 85%)
(2) Bachelor Degree in a professional discipline with (a) 4 years full-time education, (b) 120-185 credits and (c) Evidence of passing the Professional Regulation Commission’s Licensure Examinations in the relevant professional field.
(3) Bachelor Degree with (a) 5 years full-time and (b) Around 200 credits.

Take note that if your degree is comparable to the AU bachelor's, it means 15 pts ka when claiming for your educational background.

source: https://aei.gov.au/cep/asia-pacific/philippines/assessment-guidelines/pages/default.aspx

legato09 · September 2012

Thanks Lock_code for the explanation, complete na sya with option and suggestion hehehe

about po sa School Sectioning, ang AMA University in QC is under Section 2, the rest of AMA Schools fall under section 3.

Automatic po ba na kapag galing ng Section 1 regardless kung anong course basta degree eh yun din ang equivalent sa OZ?

For Section 2 naman, kapag degree ka eh Diploma lang ang equivalent sa Oz?

Kapag Section 3 naman?
Hi, check this information shared by one of our members @psychoboy:

as per the website of Australian Education International, they give guidelines as to how section 1, 2 or 3 schools can be comparable to the educational level of the AQF qualification.

Usually kapag section 1, walang problema ka as they are usually comparable to a bachelors degree in Australia; worth noting are as follows:

Section 3 institutions can be comparable to a bachelor's degree in Australia if:
(1) Bachelor Degree in a professional discipline with (a) 4 or 5 years full-time education, (b) 120-200 credits and (c) Evidence of passing the Professional Regulation Commission’s Licensure Examinations in the relevant professional field.

Section 2 institutions can be comparable to a bachelor's degree in Australia if:
(1) Bachelor Degree with (a) 4 years full-time education, (b) 120-185 credits and (c) Average grade of 1.00 to 2.00, (A to B, or more than 85%)
(2) Bachelor Degree in a professional discipline with (a) 4 years full-time education, (b) 120-185 credits and (c) Evidence of passing the Professional Regulation Commission’s Licensure Examinations in the relevant professional field.
(3) Bachelor Degree with (a) 5 years full-time and (b) Around 200 credits.

Take note that if your degree is comparable to the AU bachelor's, it means 15 pts ka when claiming for your educational background.

source: https://aei.gov.au/cep/asia-pacific/philippines/assessment-guidelines/pages/default.aspx

Thanks @Locker_Code and @Stynx

RobertSG · September 2012

@lock_code2004 Sir Lock confirm po ba na 15 poinst kapag AQF Bachelor Degree? Thank you.

dreambig · September 2012

@RobertSG Hi Robert! Wow positive assessment na pala kau sa ACS! Big congrats! Naalala ko pa yung post nyo na bhala na c Batman

Na consider po ba lahat ng experience nyo pati po ung Technical Support? Ung partner ko kc katulad nyo rin may technical/desktop support din ung experience nya pero nagpa assess din as Computer Network and System Engineer. Sna positive din. [-O< [-O< [-O<

RobertSG · September 2012

@dreambig Naalala mo pa pala ako. hehe. Thank you!
Hindi naconsider yung technical support

Pro I think dahil yun sa pgkakasulat nung job description. Insufficient details daw. Binago kc nung HR yung description na binigay ko. Hindi nahighlight kung ano yung mga tinotroubleshoot ko. Kaya cguro naging not assessable.
Wag akng magalala positive ang result nyan!

legato09 · September 2012

@lock_code2004 Sir Lock confirm po ba na 15 poinst kapag AQF Bachelor Degree? Thank you.

Yup nasa website po nila ;-) @RobertSG, ask ko lang po kung ano yung school nyo sa pinas kung ok lang ;-)

dreambig · September 2012

@RobertSG Ganun po ba, ilang years lang po ung na assess sa inyo, kc di po ba ung Technical support exp nyo 3 years sa Phil at 3 years dto SG both wla po na credit?

Yung exp nyo lang po na System Specialist na 2 yrs na credit?