Singapore vs Sydney

princestar11 · November 2016

Hi. Naofferan po ako ng trabaho sa Sydney. I am currently based in Singapore. Okay naman po ang life ko dito pero parang gusto ko rin itry ang Sydney.Just want to ask sa mga lumipat ng Sydney from Singapore. Ano po ang pros and cons of moving? Hindi po kasi ako makapgdecide kung lilipat na ako or hindi pa. I need clarity. Thank you in advance for your help.

Admin · November 2016

Some questions @princestar11
1. PR ka sa SG ?
2. May Family ka dito sa SG? kung meron ilan? kung wala Single?
3. Nasa range 5K above ba ang salary mo?
4. May Sinusuportahan ka ba financially sa pinas?
5. Ilan taon ka na?
6. Anung Lifestyle ang trip mo? e.g. night life? or introvert ka?
7. Anu ang long term plan mo 5 yrs from now?

princestar11 · November 2016

Admin said:
Some questions @princestar11
1. PR ka sa SG ?
2. May Family ka dito sa SG? kung meron ilan? kung wala Single?
3. Nasa range 5K above ba ang salary mo?
4. May Sinusuportahan ka ba financially sa pinas?
5. Ilan taon ka na?
6. Anung Lifestyle ang trip mo? e.g. night life? or introvert ka?
7. Anu ang long term plan mo 5 yrs from now?

Hi Admin,
1. Hindi po ako PR
2. Single po
3. Yes. nasa 5k na po ang range ng salary ko
4. Meron po ako sinusuportahan - magulang ko at meron po ako binili na condo sa pinas
5. 26 yrs old po
6. Minsan po lumalabas - kumakain, nanonood ng movie pero mahilig ako magtravel out of the country
7. Long term plan is to be financially stable (with savings for future kids and retirement) and magsettle down with own house and car

Anino78 · November 2016

Additional question lang:
8. Matagal ka na ba dito sa Sg?

Sa akin kaya ko pinili ang australia (no specific state) is because of my family's future. Dito sa Sg wala kaming magandang kinabulasan dito. Puro trabaho, walang work-life balance. Hindi naaprove ang mag ina ko for longterm visit pass at least pag sa australia magkakasama kami. Mas maganda benefits ng PR sa australia. Education ng anak namin, mas affordable kc education sa aus. Dito sa sg pag dito nagaral anak namin baka hindi na talaga ko makapagpahinga as in trabaho na lng palagi just to be able to pay for the school fees. Ito ang mga major reason bkt namin pinili ang au sa sg and madami pang maliliit na reason.

Hope this helps.

rich88 · November 2016

@princestar11 Stable ba ang job mo dito sa SG? Kasi for me, mas ok sa Sydney. Ang question lang naman is stable din ba ang job mo dun?

Concern lang naman dyan is yung parents mo if talagang sayo lang sila umaasa. Pag biglang nawala ang work mo sa AU, hindi ka basta basta makakalipat ng work depending on your visa conditions (I'm assuming you'll be on Visa 457 which will be sponsored by your employer).

Ano palang occupation mo bro?

princestar11 · November 2016

Anino78 said:
Additional question lang:
8. Matagal ka na ba dito sa Sg?

Sa akin kaya ko pinili ang australia (no specific state) is because of my family's future. Dito sa Sg wala kaming magandang kinabulasan dito. Puro trabaho, walang work-life balance. Hindi naaprove ang mag ina ko for longterm visit pass at least pag sa australia magkakasama kami. Mas maganda benefits ng PR sa australia. Education ng anak namin, mas affordable kc education sa aus. Dito sa sg pag dito nagaral anak namin baka hindi na talaga ko makapagpahinga as in trabaho na lng palagi just to be able to pay for the school fees. Ito ang mga major reason bkt namin pinili ang au sa sg and madami pang maliliit na reason.

Hope this helps.

3 years na po ako sa SG. naisip ko na rin na yan lalo na ang hirap magapply for PR ngayon kaya kinoconsider ko Sydney.

princestar11 · November 2016

rich88 said:
@princestar11 Stable ba ang job mo dito sa SG? Kasi for me, mas ok sa Sydney. Ang question lang naman is stable din ba ang job mo dun?

Concern lang naman dyan is yung parents mo if talagang sayo lang sila umaasa. Pag biglang nawala ang work mo sa AU, hindi ka basta basta makakalipat ng work depending on your visa conditions (I'm assuming you'll be on Visa 457 which will be sponsored by your employer).

Ano palang occupation mo bro?

Ang trabaho ko po ay sa Advertising. Stable naman po kahit papano pero maraming nagaalisan na pinoy - umuuwi ng pinas or lumilipat sa ibang bansa. Umaasa po talaga magulang ko sakin kaya napapaisip ako. At 457 po ang visa ko.

rich88 · November 2016

@princestar11 Nakakalito nga yang sitwasyon mo bro.. pero kung ako sayo, i-grab mo na. May ipon ka naman siguro just in case na mawalan ka ng work para masuportahan parents mo saka condo payments mo?

Nasa SOL/CSOL ba yung occupation mo? Check mo rin if may option ka ba maging PR in the future para just in case mawalan ka ng work, makakalipat ka sa ibang employer.

Alam ko kasi ang 457 is nakalock ka sa isang employer. Pag tinanggal ka, need mo ulit ng panibagong 457 visa. Parang SG E-Pass lang din.

princestar11 · November 2016

rich88 said:
@princestar11 Nakakalito nga yang sitwasyon mo bro.. pero kung ako sayo, i-grab mo na. May ipon ka naman siguro just in case na mawalan ka ng work para masuportahan parents mo saka condo payments mo?

Nasa SOL/CSOL ba yung occupation mo? Check mo rin if may option ka ba maging PR in the future para just in case mawalan ka ng work, makakalipat ka sa ibang employer.

Alam ko kasi ang 457 is nakalock ka sa isang employer. Pag tinanggal ka, need mo ulit ng panibagong 457 visa. Parang SG E-Pass lang din.

Thank you for the advise sir. Nagsearch po ako online kung nasa SOL/CSOL ba yung occupation ko. Nasa CSOL po. Ibig sabihin po ba nun is pwede ako magapply for PR? if yes, may minimum requirement po ba yun kung ilang years ka dapat sa Australia bago makapagapply?

rich88 · November 2016

@princestar11 Pag 457 alam ko wala naman minimum requirement bago ka pwede mag apply for 190 (not 100% sure) .. pero pwede mo naman na asikasuhin mga requirements mo.

Saang state ba yung may offer sayo ngayon? pag 190 kasi, kelangan dun ka lang sa state na yun mag stay and work for 2 years before you can move to other states.

pinoycoder · November 2016

@princestar11 kung ako sayo brad kunin mo na, lahat tayo dito sa sg, iisa lang kapupuntahan, either uwi sa pinas for good pag nagsawa na or migrate nalang sa ibang bansa. And sa panahon ngayon wala ng stable na company.

pero asa sayo parin desisyon brad. advantage kasi pag naka 457 ka, my australian experience ka pag nag apply ka ng PR at the same time nakakuha kapa ng local experience.

pinoycoder · November 2016

@princestar11 and anytime naman pwede ka bumalik sa sg

Luntian12 · November 2016

@princestar11 Para sa akin, if magkaka457 na, ok din sa Sydney. Habang andun ka naman sa Australia nagwowork, may opportunity kang mag-apply for 190 which will make you a PR, much better ang benefits. When you become a PR, you're eligible din to be a citizen after 4 years, and you'll be holding an Australian passport. You mentioned mahilig ka magtravel, you'll be able to travel visa free to more countries rather than holding a PH passport na from time to time kailangan mo pa mag-apply ng visa.

Since you're still single, better start early to settle in a place where it is more stable lalo na kung may plans ka to build a family of your own. To be honest, ok lang din ako dito sa Singapore nung una, kaya lang nung nagka-anak na kami ng husband ko, dun namin talaga naramdaman yung struggle dahil hindi kami PR dito. Wala kaming kahit anong subsidy, hindi maapprove Dependant Pass ng baby namin, laging at risk kung mageexit-exit para lang mapagstay ang baby namin dito at yung mag-aalaga. Yung iba kong friends nahihirapan na din maghanap ng school para sa mga anak nila dahil hindi priority kahit PR. Andiyan pa yung fear kapag magrerenew na ng pass, dahil hindi ibig sabihing matagal ka na dito, irerenew ka pa nila ulit. Anytime, pwede ka nalang mapauwi. Kung gusto mo maiwasan yung mga ganito, you might want to consider moving to Australia earlier.

Para sakin, If there's any advantage of working in Singapore yun ay super lapit lang sa Pinas. If there's any emergency, mabilis makauwi. Maganda din ang safety dito.

Pero this is just my point of view. Siyempre it will depend pa rin sayo kung ano sa tingin mong best sayo.

Goodluck sa decision-making. Pray lang and He will lead you to the right and better path.

greatsoul · November 2016

Ang isang lamang ng Singapore sa AUS is yung safety/security...

Isa ito sa reason kaya nandito wife and daughter ko.

Pero kung family guy ka kasi, ang isip mo yung future ng family mo... And tama yung sinabi nila sa taas, in terms of Education, Healthcare, mas ok sa AUS.

Problema sa atin dito sa SG, pag na cancel na EP/SPass mo, iyak ka na. uwe na pinas. Lalo na ngayon ang hirap makahanap ng bagong work.

princestar11 · November 2016

pinoycoder said:
@princestar11 and anytime naman pwede ka bumalik sa sg

Luntian12 said:
@princestar11 Para sa akin, if magkaka457 na, ok din sa Sydney. Habang andun ka naman sa Australia nagwowork, may opportunity kang mag-apply for 190 which will make you a PR, much better ang benefits. When you become a PR, you're eligible din to be a citizen after 4 years, and you'll be holding an Australian passport. You mentioned mahilig ka magtravel, you'll be able to travel visa free to more countries rather than holding a PH passport na from time to time kailangan mo pa mag-apply ng visa.

Since you're still single, better start early to settle in a place where it is more stable lalo na kung may plans ka to build a family of your own. To be honest, ok lang din ako dito sa Singapore nung una, kaya lang nung nagka-anak na kami ng husband ko, dun namin talaga naramdaman yung struggle dahil hindi kami PR dito. Wala kaming kahit anong subsidy, hindi maapprove Dependant Pass ng baby namin, laging at risk kung mageexit-exit para lang mapagstay ang baby namin dito at yung mag-aalaga. Yung iba kong friends nahihirapan na din maghanap ng school para sa mga anak nila dahil hindi priority kahit PR. Andiyan pa yung fear kapag magrerenew na ng pass, dahil hindi ibig sabihing matagal ka na dito, irerenew ka pa nila ulit. Anytime, pwede ka nalang mapauwi. Kung gusto mo maiwasan yung mga ganito, you might want to consider moving to Australia earlier.

Para sakin, If there's any advantage of working in Singapore yun ay super lapit lang sa Pinas. If there's any emergency, mabilis makauwi. Maganda din ang safety dito.

Pero this is just my point of view. Siyempre it will depend pa rin sayo kung ano sa tingin mong best sayo.

Goodluck sa decision-making. Pray lang and He will lead you to the right and better path.

Thank you po sa advise. This is very helpful. Naisip ko rin po yang sinabi niyo na pang longterm talaga ang Australia. Dasal na lang talaga.

princestar11 · November 2016

greatsoul said:
Ang isang lamang ng Singapore sa AUS is yung safety/security...

Isa ito sa reason kaya nandito wife and daughter ko.

Pero kung family guy ka kasi, ang isip mo yung future ng family mo... And tama yung sinabi nila sa taas, in terms of Education, Healthcare, mas ok sa AUS.

Problema sa atin dito sa SG, pag na cancel na EP/SPass mo, iyak ka na. uwe na pinas. Lalo na ngayon ang hirap makahanap ng bagong work.

Oo nga po. Marami na ako kilala na nahihirapan maghanap ng trabaho dito sa Sinagpore. Anyway, tulad nga po ng sabi ni sir Pinoyencoder, pag hindi nagwork out sa Sydney pwede naman bumalik nga Singapore. Thank you po.

FrankAbignale · November 2016

Anino78 said:
Additional question lang:
8. Matagal ka na ba dito sa Sg?

Sa akin kaya ko pinili ang australia (no specific state) is because of my family's future. Dito sa Sg wala kaming magandang kinabulasan dito. Puro trabaho, walang work-life balance. Hindi naaprove ang mag ina ko for longterm visit pass at least pag sa australia magkakasama kami. Mas maganda benefits ng PR sa australia. Education ng anak namin, mas affordable kc education sa aus. Dito sa sg pag dito nagaral anak namin baka hindi na talaga ko makapagpahinga as in trabaho na lng palagi just to be able to pay for the school fees. Ito ang mga major reason bkt namin pinili ang au sa sg and madami pang maliliit na reason.

Hope this helps.

@Anino78 nadali mo bro!!! ganun din sa case ko kaya ako ang decide :-)

FrankAbignale · November 2016

@princestar11 yep, tama yun sis, mas ok na i-grab mo lng if gusto mo ng stability in the long run, dito kasi hindi natin alam if hanggang kailan lng pwd mag-work, at pwdng uuwi na lng na luhaan na hindi nakapag handa..

therealaids · November 2016

@princestar11

Just my opinion... kung single ka at habol mo ang mabilis na pagiipon, mas ok ka sa Singapore, kasi sobrang baba ng tax kumpara dito sa Australia na ramdam mo ang sakit ng tax. Hindi mabilis makahanap ng 5k AUD sweldo agad agad lalu na kung bagong migrant ka pa lang dito, pero hindi naman impossible.

Kung single ka sa AU, ikaw ang bumubuhay sa mga may pamilya dito dahil sa tax na binabayaran mo. Bata ka pa naman... nabasa ko sa ibang thread na pampamilya ang AU, wala ka pa namang anak at asawa para ikonsider mo ang long term plan.

Ang draw back lang sa SG, huwag ka ng umasa na ma-P-PR ka. Ipon ka lang then migrate pag marami ng pera. 25 to 32 yes old naman ang range ng 30points para sa AGE

>- huwag lang magbago ng SOL.

Tanungin mo si pareng @Admin , nasa SG pa siya.

FrankAbignale · November 2016

@therealaids yun nga lng, di hamak na mas malaki talaga ang tax dyan :-(

Admin · November 2016

Same thought with @therealaids , kahit sa AU ka man mag simula muli hindi magiging madali makahanap ng work, ang iba nag o-odd jobs. dahil hindi makakuha ng office work. kung meron man mababa dahil baguhan. at age 26 napaka bata mo pa!

engineer20 · November 2016

@Admin visa 457 yata offer kay @princestar11 eh. bro check mo na lang magkano ba net monthly income mo sa AU kung sakali para macompare sa current SG salary mo.

TasBurrfoot · December 2016

@princestar11 - let me tell you my story and hopefully some insights may be learned...

2008 was the year me and my ex-gf (now wife) arrived in Singapore; she was working as an auditor / finance manager while ako naman I was working in investment operations for a British bank. Just like you, Singapore has been good to us. We were able to save substantially here during our stay.

After we got married in 11.11.11; we begin to think where do we go from here? It can't just be fattening our bank account because at the end of the day, we can't stay permanently in Singapore because we were just under an EP. So ayun, our travels brought us to Melbourne in June 2012; it was love at first sight for my wife; for me naman it was like pwede, why not try diba?

Again swerte kami as my wife's occupation was in the SOL; it was quick and rapid, ginawa kong career to ensure that our application will be all good. Fast forward to November 2012, we got our visa!!

And by December 2012, we bade goodbye to our beloved SG... We spent a good 3 months with our family sa Pinas and konting travel around Asia before we finally did our entry as PR in April 2013.

Did I like it immediately? No... The transition was hard; couple with the fact that we didn't have work then immediately. Again swerte kami because by June 2013, we already got some work (albeit low pay, not really our line of work kind of job) na kahit papaano it stops the money from bleeding.

Little by little, we slowly learned to love Melbourne... We got better jobs, we got to meet friends here, we slowly opened ourselves to Melbourne.

Did we make the right choice? Absolutely... Melbourne is now home, we got a house here in end 2014 and I got my citizenship a few months back...

Do I miss Singapore? Of course, kaya bisita nalang every once in a while (I will have my 3rd visit this coming Feb 2017, so ayun excited!!)...

I am talking too much na so I will end it here but feel free to ask any questions...

princestar11 · December 2016

TasBurrfoot said:
@princestar11 - let me tell you my story and hopefully some insights may be learned...

2008 was the year me and my ex-gf (now wife) arrived in Singapore; she was working as an auditor / finance manager while ako naman I was working in investment operations for a British bank. Just like you, Singapore has been good to us. We were able to save substantially here during our stay.

After we got married in 11.11.11; we begin to think where do we go from here? It can't just be fattening our bank account because at the end of the day, we can't stay permanently in Singapore because we were just under an EP. So ayun, our travels brought us to Melbourne in June 2012; it was love at first sight for my wife; for me naman it was like pwede, why not try diba?

Again swerte kami as my wife's occupation was in the SOL; it was quick and rapid, ginawa kong career to ensure that our application will be all good. Fast forward to November 2012, we got our visa!!

And by December 2012, we bade goodbye to our beloved SG... We spent a good 3 months with our family sa Pinas and konting travel around Asia before we finally did our entry as PR in April 2012.

Did I like it immediately? No... The transition was hard; couple with the fact that we didn't have work then immediately. Again swerte kami because by June 2012, we already got some work (albeit low pay, not really our line of work kind of job) na kahit papaano it stops the money from bleeding.

Little by little, we slowly learned to love Melbourne... We got better jobs, we got to meet friends here, we slowly opened ourselves to Melbourne.

Did we make the right choice? Absolutely... Melbourne is now home, we got a house here in end 2013 and I got my citizenship a few months back...

Do I miss Singapore? Of course, kaya bisita nalang every once in a while (I will have my 3rd visit this coming Feb 2017, so ayun excited!!)...

I am talking too much na so I will end it here but feel free to ask any questions...

Thank you Sir. Since meron na opportunity for me to work there, I'll just grab it, if ever naman hindi magwork out we can always go back to SG. I am actually finish with the documents I need for the visa application. Nasama ko rin sa Visa application ko yung girlfriend ko. Kaso pupunta sya dun ng walang trabaho pero may trabaho naman ako so okay lang din pero sana makakuha agad sya ng work sa Sydney. Sayang sir alis na kami ng Feb 2017 to Sydney, hindi na tayo makakapagmeet dito sa SG. Salamat po ulit.