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AUD, where can I buy in Manila?

PogingNoypiPogingNoypi MelbournePosts: 238Member
edited September 2012 in Remittance/Exchange Rate
Saan po ba makakabili ng AUD sa Manila? Tingin nyo po ba maganda US dollars na lang ang dalhin ko tapos magpa-palit na lang ako sa hotel pagdating ko sa AUD?

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  • vinpackvinpack Petaling Jaya
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    I have the same question. Please give us your thoughts fellow members! =)

    Cheers!

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  • BryannBryann Sydney
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    Try big banks. Ako bumili sa BDO.. just have to call them in advance to reserve. Catch is, kailangan meron ka account with them. And pwede ka lang bumili ng AUD sa branch na kung saan ka nag-open.

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  • TotoyOZresidentTotoyOZresident Posts: 1,327Member, Moderator
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    edited September 2012
    Saan po ba makakabili ng AUD sa Manila? Tingin nyo po ba maganda US dollars na lang ang dalhin ko tapos magpa-palit na lang ako sa hotel pagdating ko sa AUD?
    Much better.. if you have ATM card like BPI... just bring it at hanap na lang kau ng ATM machine pag dating sa airport ng oz then mag withdraw na lang kau basta tingan nyo muna sa card kung may kapareha na logo sa ATM machine. Puede nyo rin dahin ang debit card or credit card may naka lagay naman yun na visa or mastercard magagamit nyo yun din sa ATM machine. Very simple you dont need to bring cash.

    cheers.

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  • BryannBryann Sydney
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    Yup, meron po sa airport (Mascot) na ATM na multicurrency. Usually pwede naman talaga may charge lang, mga Php100 siguro per transaction.

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  • YukishihYukishih Melbourne
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    I bought mine sa BPI.

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  • JClemJClem Melbourne
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    Sa BPI, kelangan nyo muna tumawag sa kanila para maactivate or enable yung withdrawal nyo sa ATMs na may Cirrus logo sa ibang bansa. Withdrawal fee is $3.5 per transaction.

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  • LokiJrLokiJr Quezon City
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    Ang una kong basa sa title saan makakabili ng Audi haha

    Anyway, I think mas praktikal kung US Dollar na lang bitbitin mo dun...sobrang taga yung rates ng Aussie Dollar pag sa Pinas mo kunin...hindi kasi siya primary currency for exchange sa atin...we're more on HKD, SGD, Yen at Riyals kaya mas mahal sa atin ang palitan ng AUD hehe
  • TotoyOZresidentTotoyOZresident Posts: 1,327Member, Moderator
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    Sa BPI, kelangan nyo muna tumawag sa kanila para maactivate or enable yung withdrawal nyo sa ATMs na may Cirrus logo sa ibang bansa. Withdrawal fee is $3.5 per transaction.
    Yup to make sure na makakapag withdraw. Ako nman 4 years ago dinala ko BPI ATM card ko nun nakapag withdraw nman ako basta nakita ko lang ang cirrus logo. Importante may dala kayu na isa pang ATM card like debit card or credit card para kung kinain ang card nyo or accidentally na debit ang ATM nyo at least may reserve kau na ATM card to withdraw. Make sure na bago ang ATM machine na gagamitin nyo at mas maganda kung bank name na ATM Machine. Research na lang kau ng mga Bank name sa oz.

    cheers

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    'Success is when you finished what you have started."

    If you’re looking for Church in Canberra ACT Australia and you want to fellowship with Christian Filipino Australian.
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  • TotoyOZresidentTotoyOZresident Posts: 1,327Member, Moderator
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    edited September 2012
    Ang una kong basa sa title saan makakabili ng Audi haha

    Anyway, I think mas praktikal kung US Dollar na lang bitbitin mo dun...sobrang taga yung rates ng Aussie Dollar pag sa Pinas mo kunin...hindi kasi siya primary currency for exchange sa atin...we're more on HKD, SGD, Yen at Riyals kaya mas mahal sa atin ang palitan ng AUD hehe</blockquote

    In my opinion dumoble pa ang bayad sa exchange rate kung magpapalit ulit ng US dollar to AU dollar sa oz kasi ganun din pag dating sa oz hanap din Money changer. To be practical AU dollar ang dapat bilhin papaanu kung ang arrival flight madaling araw tapos Sunday pa. Malamang sarado ang money changer sa airport tapos gutom na ang pasahero. I'm not sure kung tinatangap sa loob ng airport ang US dollar to buy food.

    The best is bumili ng AU dollar ng mga AU$1000 para sa food or pang transfo. At yung natitira na savings i deposit sa Credit Card like Citibank or any international debit card or yung savings account International ATM card then mag withdraw na lang sa OZ. Mas maganda kung yung bank ninyo ay puede mag online banking mas madali yun makapag bank transfer kahit nasa oz na kau. Here in Australia most client using online banking no need to go over the counter especially paying bills.

    cheers

    Quotes:
    "Wise men learn from their mistakes, but wiser men learn from the mistakes of others."
    'Success is when you finished what you have started."

    If you’re looking for Church in Canberra ACT Australia and you want to fellowship with Christian Filipino Australian.
    Come and join us in Jesus Is Lord Church Canberra service every Sunday at 10:30AM to 12:30PM
    Where: 53 Georgina Crescent, Kaleen ACT 2617
    (Back of Kaleen Shopping Centre)
    For more information, please PM me or visit

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  • LokiJrLokiJr Quezon City
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    @TotoyOZresident medyo off topic ako boss pero what about rent? Diba humihingi sila ng bond? So dapat kasama yun sa icoconvert kong pera to AUD? Or..do they accept credit card para sa rent? hehe
  • gemini23gemini23 Win
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    Sa palagay ko mas maganda dalhin ang Au$ kaysa US$, ang laki kasi ng commission sa ibang money changers, parang natandaan ko yung pinagpalitan ko noon nasa 12% commission,kaya yung US$200 na pinapalit ko sa nasa Au$160++ na alng binigay sa kin. Saka wala naman tumatanggap ng US$ sa mga stores di ba? Kelangan talaga ipapalit mo yun sa Aussie dollar or gamit ka ng card.

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  • TotoyOZresidentTotoyOZresident Posts: 1,327Member, Moderator
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    @TotoyOZresident medyo off topic ako boss pero what about rent? Diba humihingi sila ng bond? So dapat kasama yun sa icoconvert kong pera to AUD? Or..do they accept credit card para sa rent? hehe
    Kung mayrun na kayu matutuluyan at kapitbahay nyo nman mayari nung tutuluyan ninyo puede nman kau mag bayad ng cash. Puede din nman on line banking o tinatawag na bank transfer kukunin mo lang account nung land lord ninyo then puede mo i send ang payment to his or her account. Pag send mo ng bank transfer on the follwing day receive na nya. Masasanay nman kau pag dito na kau about electronic banking.

    Quotes:
    "Wise men learn from their mistakes, but wiser men learn from the mistakes of others."
    'Success is when you finished what you have started."

    If you’re looking for Church in Canberra ACT Australia and you want to fellowship with Christian Filipino Australian.
    Come and join us in Jesus Is Lord Church Canberra service every Sunday at 10:30AM to 12:30PM
    Where: 53 Georgina Crescent, Kaleen ACT 2617
    (Back of Kaleen Shopping Centre)
    For more information, please PM me or visit

    http://jilcanberra.org.au

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  • atchinoatchino Sydney
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    Options:

    I do not prefer big bank sa pinas kasi mas mababa ang palit nila at kailangan mo pa yata na may account sa kanila

    1. Go to money changer sa pinas para may AUD ka na once you landed sa Australia.
    - kaso hindi sila madalas na may avialable na AUD. At hindi mo alam kung gnao kalaki ang avialable AUD nila. Pero mas mataas sila mag palit compare sa big bank sa pinas.

    2. Open a Citibank USD account sa pinas.
    - Last time I check (few years ago hehehe0, you can withdraw money from ANY CITIBANK ATM machine around the world WITHOUT extra charges/fees, so exchnge rate lang ang (USD -> AUD ) and issipin mo on that day na mag withdraw ka.

    - tested when going to US. Withdraw the USD bank account open in pinas sa CItibank ATM sa US - no charges. Makuha o same USD amount kung ano meron sa pinas.

    Since sa Citibank AUStralia mo withdraw, exchange rate lang ang issue. Still no extra charge for transaction fees or withdraw fees.

    Consult Citibank para siguroado at kung ganon parin ang systema nala

    3. I bring USD as pocket money (make sure hindi over 10kAUD yung total na dala mo na cash)
    - else kailangan mo declare pag over 10k AUD ang dala mo na cash.


    In my experience, ginawa ko lahat.
    - nag papalit na ko sa money changer para may enough AUD ako when I landed in AUS for expected expenes in Australia.
    - As backup, nag open din ako ng CItibank USD account. Tpos I bring hte ATM card. Pra I cna withdraw from CItibank ATM machine dio sa Austrlaia if kailangan ko spare chas.
    - Nagdala din ako ng USD as pocket money in case na kailangan ko ng spare na cash at wala kao mahanap na Citibank ATM machine.

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  • atchinoatchino Sydney
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    @LokiJr

    Payment can be made:
    - pwedeng credit card payment sa account ng real estate agent
    - direct cash depsit sa account nung realestate agent if di pwede credit card payment
    - kung shared accomodation (pwedeng cash ang bayad)

    Kung bagong dating ka, syempre wala ka pa credit card sa Australia hehehe...
    Pwede mo naman gamitin credit card mo sa pinas kaso may fees involved.

    Kung wala ka pa credit card, cash nalang cguro.
    Estimate mo nlang kugn gano kalaki ipapapalit mo to AUD sa pinas.

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    May kasabihan tayo: Kuripot man at magaling... yayaman din....

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  • atchinoatchino Sydney
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    @JClem Open a citibank USD account. As far as i know wla sile transaction fee as long as withdraw ka sa citibank ATM machine in AUS. Consult Citibank if they still have this offer.

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  • PogingNoypiPogingNoypi Melbourne
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    Ang una kong basa sa title saan makakabili ng Audi haha

    Anyway, I think mas praktikal kung US Dollar na lang bitbitin mo dun...sobrang taga yung rates ng Aussie Dollar pag sa Pinas mo kunin...hindi kasi siya primary currency for exchange sa atin...we're more on HKD, SGD, Yen at Riyals kaya mas mahal sa atin ang palitan ng AUD hehe
    Ah ok po make sense po, thanks din po sa tip. Bili na lang ako ng cash na AUD tapos credit card na lang yung ibang transactions ko.



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  • LokiJrLokiJr Quezon City
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    @atchino, @TotoyOZresident salamat po sa reply...so yung initial bond puwede na rin i-credit card or online bank transfer na lang?

    Hehe lumaki kasi tayo sa Pinas na 'cash is king' hehehe
  • vinpackvinpack Petaling Jaya
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    Pwede bumili ng AUD sa SANRYS money changer. May branch sila sa sm makati and alabang town center and greenhills yata. Pwede din through chinabank, may mga clients sila na money changers din tapos sila ang parang nagbbroker pero siyempre may additional premium ang chinabank (okay din ito at least dadaan sa bank mismo yung AUD, sure kang hindi fake). =)

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  • LokiJrLokiJr Quezon City
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    oooh chinabank...did not know that, mas convenient nga naman kung bank to bank yung palitan hehe
  • icebreaker1928icebreaker1928 Sydney
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    BDO ako nagpapalit... sabihin mo lang in advance kasi wala silang reserve for third currencies...
    Peso at USD lang sila may reserve...
    mga 2-3 days available na yung AUD mo... pero kelangan pala may account ka sa branch na yun...
    hihingin din nila sayo to....
    -passport
    -visa
    -plain ticket

  • raycelraycel Melbourne
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    may naka buy na dito ng AUD without a ticket but just showing your australia visa na resident visa? planning to buy na AUD..but May 2013 pa kami alis.
  • rbolanterbolante North Ryde
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    @vinpack i don't think you're gonna get fake money at Sanry's bro. they've been in the industry for so long so may reputation silang inaalagaan. if may issue na before na ganyan malamang nireklamo na sila ng clients nila at sarado na sila by now. just me thoughts. :-)

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  • vinpackvinpack Petaling Jaya
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    @rbolante oo nga tama, you have an excellent point sir. Actually, I'll be buying my AUD from sanry's next week. =)

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  • rbolanterbolante North Ryde
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    @vinpack uy bro let me know how it went. i'm gonna need to buy AUD soon. sa january na kasi alis namin. thanks. :D

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  • PogingNoypiPogingNoypi Melbourne
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    Pwede bumili ng AUD sa SANRYS money changer. May branch sila sa sm makati and alabang town center and greenhills yata.
    Ayos po! Lapit lang kami sa Greenhills siguro dyan na lang kami magpapalit. Maganda din kasi cash basis kesa sa credit card. May charge kasi pag card eh

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  • LokiJrLokiJr Quezon City
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    @icebreaker1928 would you know kung magkano yung transaction charge ng BDO kung magpapalit ka pera sa kanila?
  • eytelleneeytellene Brisbane
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    Pg mlaki po yung aud n need nyo lng 500 and up tawag nyo po para mareserve n nila kau at pick up nyo n lng :)
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    @rbolante bolants :-D pautang naman.... hehehe :-p

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  • rbolanterbolante North Ryde
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    @donking hahahaha. kaw ata magpapautang dami mong kinita sa laban ni pacquiao kasosyo mo na ata ngayon si bob arum. :-P

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    @rbolante wala nga ginamit nya dun sa kaso ng "3 blind mice"... nga pala bolants pinullout mo ba contributions mo sa pagibig?

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