Internal Auditors

batman · July 2017

@bcondepascua you will need Stat dec only if you cant get COE with detailed job description from your employer due to some specific reason. samples are online.

mseah · July 2017

Hi IA friends, Im new to this group. Got a positive assessment from VetAssess last Dec. 2016 with 4.3yrs. In the assessment I filed, that excludes my current employer. But when I lodged my EOI just this month, Ive included my current employer (Oct2016 to present). Question:
Is this correct? Or should I just limit the employment info to those which were disclosed in the VetAssess.

Thanks in advance for all the help!

misterV · July 2017

@mseah I think if you move to a new employer that has not been assessed by VETASSESS, you shouldn't claim points for that in your EOI (you can include it but mark it as "not claiming points".

If you want to claim points for that employment, you should have that assessed first. Goodluck!

mseah · July 2017

@misterV thanks for the input.
Should I mark it as "not claiming point" even if that job is also as internal auditor?

misterV · July 2017

@mseah The thing is, when you lodge your visa, DIBP will match the work experiences that you're claiming points for against the result of VETASSESS skills assessment. So if they see that you are claiming points for a work experience that has not been assessed by VETASSESS as relevant, then there's a high chance that you're application will be denied/declined due to over-claiming of points.

You can still push through with it if you want, it's up to you.

mseah · July 2017

@misterV thanks again! Appreciate your thoughts! I will post here any update.

batman · July 2017

@mseah

mseah said:
Hi IA friends, Im new to this group. Got a positive assessment from VetAssess last Dec. 2016 with 4.3yrs. In the assessment I filed, that excludes my current employer. But when I lodged my EOI just this month, Ive included my current employer (Oct2016 to present). Question:

Is this correct? Or should I just limit the employment info to those which were disclosed in the VetAssess.

Thanks in advance for all the help!

only claim the period what vetasses has assessed.

mcdreamy · July 2017

Hi guys!

I am very new sa group na ito and this is my first time to leave a comment. I just want to ask kasi I am planning na mag pa assess sa VETASSESS as Internal Auditor. Meron po ba dito sa group na makapag share ng checklist, forms and format nila just to make sure lang po na wala akong namiss na documents to get positive feedback? And if makakuha po ba ng negative response sa assessing body ilang months po ulit bago mag apply?

Thank you po.

Xiaomau82 · July 2017

mcdreamy said:
Hi guys!

I am very new sa group na ito and this is my first time to leave a comment. I just want to ask kasi I am planning na mag pa assess sa VETASSESS as Internal Auditor. Meron po ba dito sa group na makapag share ng checklist, forms and format nila just to make sure lang po na wala akong namiss na documents to get positive feedback? And if makakuha po ba ng negative response sa assessing body ilang months po ulit bago mag apply?

Thank you po.

you may refer to https://www.vetassess.com.au/skills-assessment-for-migration/general-occupations/required-documents for VETASSESS Skills assessment

patrickcpacia · July 2017

Hello,

Sa mga nakapagmigrate na. Does anyone have an idea what part/city/state of Australia has the highest demand for Internal Auditors?

Thanks.

misterV · July 2017

@patrickcpacia I can only comment on the job market here in Sydney. I received a more-than-decent job offer after only less than three weeks of job hunting. Even after that, I was still receiving calls and emails from various recruiters. So based on experience, okay yung market ng IA dito.

bcondepascua · July 2017

Hi Everyone,

Question lang po sa Affidavit/Statutory Declaration.

I already finalized and printed mine and went to a notary public (around PRC since its near where I currently live). To my dismay, the "attendant" of the notary directed me to Manila City Hall for notarization for the reason, according to her, my document will be used abroad.

Is she correct (which I doubt)? Base on what I read on this forum, any notary public may do the notarization of the Affidavit/Stat. Dec.

For your kind guidance please. Thank you!

Au_Vic · July 2017

misterV said:
@patrickcpacia I can only comment on the job market here in Sydney. I received a more-than-decent job offer after only less than three weeks of job hunting. Even after that, I was still receiving calls and emails from various recruiters. So based on experience, okay yung market ng IA dito.

I agree with MisterV. Nsa Sydney ung mostly ng coporate offices so mas marami IA opportunities sa NSW.

I am an internal auditor too but based in Melbourne. May IA roles dito pero less compared sa sydney. I still get calls every now and then from recruiters in Sydney for IA jobs but I prefer to live in Melbourne than Sydney. In your case kung wala ka nmn preference sa state then go to Sydney.

Pero reminder lang, don't expect too much about finding a job easily case-to-case basis pa din.

cheers!

mcdreamy · July 2017

@Xiaomau82 thank you for the link. Kamusta ang status ng application mo? Nakapag migrate kanaba? Balak ko kasi mag paassess sa vetassess ng sarili lang at walang agency. Sa tingin mo mas advicesable yun?

Sa mga requirements din okei lang ba na hindi kasama ang prc id ko? Kasi expired na sya e.

Thank you.

Xiaomau82 · August 2017

mcdreamy said:
@Xiaomau82 thank you for the link. Kamusta ang status ng application mo? Nakapag migrate kanaba? Balak ko kasi mag paassess sa vetassess ng sarili lang at walang agency. Sa tingin mo mas advicesable yun?

Sa mga requirements din okei lang ba na hindi kasama ang prc id ko? Kasi expired na sya e.

Thank you.

It will save you money but be careful. You have monitor kasi lately mejo madaming changes sa regulation pero doable naman, madami nga dito wala din agency. ok lang na di kasama prc, just include the prc cert since wala nmn expiration un

mcdreamy · August 2017

@Xiaomau82 thank you again. Yup ang dami din talagang regulations. We are considering din kasi sana mag agency kaya lang sa 3 pinuntahan ko iba iba ang option na sinasabe. Nag agency kaba? Any suggestion kung ano na yung trusted mo. Sa middle east ako base sa Dubai.

Thank you again.

Xiaomau82 · August 2017

mcdreamy said:
@Xiaomau82 thank you again. Yup ang dami din talagang regulations. We are considering din kasi sana mag agency kaya lang sa 3 pinuntahan ko iba iba ang option na sinasabe. Nag agency kaba? Any suggestion kung ano na yung trusted mo. Sa middle east ako base sa Dubai.

Thank you again.

sg based kasi kami. mas ok agencies dito.

pero kun kaya nio nmn na kayo na lang m,as ok din minsan. pero u have to devote your time lang tlaga na magresearch

patrickcpacia · August 2017

Thanks @misterV and @Au_Vic

mseah · August 2017

Hi IA folks. Any one here who has received a invite in previous invitation rounds? Currently, I only have 65 (189) / 70 (190) points. EOI lodged last July. How long is the waiting period to receive an invite?

misterV · August 2017

@mseah Based sa analysis ng ISCAH, estimated time of invite for 65 pointers will be after June 2018.

http://www.iscah.com/wp_files/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Aug2017estimates.jpg

tw1nklestar · August 2017

Hi all. I need some advise on selecting appropriate occupation. I actually have 2.58 yrs experience in IT audit, 2.9 yrs experience in internal audit, and 8 months of experience in SAP security & controls. My IT audit experience mainly focused on business process reviews and the IT audit support to financial audit team. For SAP security & controls, I was tasked to ensure that there are mitigating controls on SOD conflicts within SAP and train individuals on GRC process. My question is, will it be ok to claim work exp as IA for the 3 jobs since these are related to risk and controls? Btw, I'm an accounting graduate/ not an IT graduate.

bcondepascua · August 2017

@tw1nklestar, based on your stated nature of IT Audit work exp., I suppose it falls under External Audit (EA). In which case, you have more work exp as an Internal Auditor (IA) (2.9 yrs against 2.6 yrs). In my opinion, the SAP Security & Controls neither fall to both nor is a highly-related occupation.

You may be better off by nominating IA instead of EA - hoping that your EA exp. be considered as highly-related to IA (although I haven't encountered such in my limited readings), to have a total 5.5 yrs post-qualification employment.

Note that to claim for points for overseas employment in nominated skilled occupation or a closely related occupation, you must have at least 3 yrs work exp. (5 points) - the next rung being 5 yrs (10 points).

For more info, you may refer to: https://www.vetassess.com.au/skills-assessment-for-migration/general-occupations/nominate-an-occupation.

Hoping I could be of help. God bless!

bcondepascua · August 2017

RE: POINTS TABLE QUESTION

Hi IA friends,

May I constructively refer to you the provision at this link https://www.border.gov.au/visas/supporting/Pages/skilled/the-points-table.aspx as follows:

"Qualification - An award or qualification recognised by the relevant assessing authority for your nominated skilled occupation" (which grants 10 pts.).

Has anyone been issued an Outcome Letter where an award or a qualification - other than and in addition to Bachelors Degree (15 pts.) - was recognized by VETASSESS (the relevant assessing authority)? For example, the CIA designation which is the global gold standard for the IA profession.

Thank you!

misterV · August 2017

@bcondepascua If you already claimed points for your Bachelor's Degree, you cannot claim points for other qualifications. I'm not even sure if they're going to consider the CIA designation as an award or qualification.

bcondepascua · August 2017

@misterV thank you!

dyanisabelle · August 2017

misterV said:
@mseah Based sa analysis ng ISCAH, estimated time of invite for 65 pointers will be after June 2018.

http://www.iscah.com/wp_files/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Aug2017estimates.jpg

Ang taas na ng points for IA. Haay. Good luck sa mga nagfa-finalize pa lang ng points (like me). Kaya natin to. Hehe

misterV · August 2017

@dyanisabelle Actually, across all occupations (including non-prorata), 70+ pointers lang yung naiinvite. Grabe yung competition ngayon. Tsk.

dyanisabelle · August 2017

tw1nklestar said:
Hi all. I need some advise on selecting appropriate occupation. I actually have 2.58 yrs experience in IT audit, 2.9 yrs experience in internal audit, and 8 months of experience in SAP security & controls. My IT audit experience mainly focused on business process reviews and the IT audit support to financial audit team. For SAP security & controls, I was tasked to ensure that there are mitigating controls on SOD conflicts within SAP and train individuals on GRC process. My question is, will it be ok to claim work exp as IA for the 3 jobs since these are related to risk and controls? Btw, I'm an accounting graduate/ not an IT graduate.

Hello! I'm also in IT Audit po. I think you can try to include all 3 jobs sa Vetassess mo, just make sure na clear sakanila yung mga tasks na ginagawa mo is related to the IA description. Yung external audit experience ko as IT audit inaccept naman nila kasi dun sa statement of service na ginawa kong supplement ng JD ko inemphasize ko naman yung tasks ko as advisory is more related to IA.

mseah · August 2017

@misterV thanks for the info. It must be so tough now.

Au_Vic · September 2017

bcondepascua said:
RE: POINTS TABLE QUESTION

Hi IA friends,

May I constructively refer to you the provision at this link https://www.border.gov.au/visas/supporting/Pages/skilled/the-points-table.aspx as follows:

"Qualification - An award or qualification recognised by the relevant assessing authority for your nominated skilled occupation" (which grants 10 pts.).

Has anyone been issued an Outcome Letter where an award or a qualification - other than and in addition to Bachelors Degree (15 pts.) - was recognized by VETASSESS (the relevant assessing authority)? For example, the CIA designation which is the global gold standard for the IA profession.

Thank you!

vetassess only assess qualification (university degree) and most likely not the CIA designation