Filipino Teachers in Australia

Au_Vic · November 2017

@Celeana eto yung nsa AITSL application about criteria for ECE. Ung bachelors degree kahit anung field pero dapat may at least 1 year na initial education qualification (etong 1 yr ITE cguro yung equivalent ng 18units education sa pinas para dun sa mga hindi education major pero di ko lang sure kung ung 18units education ba na un is generic or specific kung elementary or secondary major kc tingin ko dun nila iaassess kung comparable ba e)

Criterion 1. Qualifications

Completion of a minimum of four years full-time (or part-time equivalent) higher education (university) level study that results in qualification/s. This must include a relevant initial teacher education qualification and can include other qualifications.

Initial teacher education qualification requirement
The study must include an initial teacher education qualification comparable to the educational level of an Australian Bachelor degree (Australian Qualifications Framework Level 7) or higher, which includes:

i) at least one year full-time (or part-time equivalent) higher education (university) level study of Early Childhood (Pre-primary School) Teacher initial teacher education
ii) completion of at least 45 days of supervised teaching practice with students across the Birth to 8 years age range in education programs prior to and in the early years of primary school*.

Celeana · November 2017

^ kasi napansin ko lang sa 45 days na practice teaching, sa bachelors degree lang yun inooffer, kasi yung sa CTP, 18 units lang, puro professional education, i'm not exactly sure kung may practicum sila. In PNU kasi, 2 months or 45 days or 360hours ung practicum sa undergrad.

As for my Masters degree, sa PNU rin, may practicum naman, kaso 56 hours lang yun mga 1-2 weeks lang kapag na-convert

@Au_Vic yung initial teacher education dapat level 7 and higher, ee ang level 7 sa framework nila is bachelors then level 8 yung masters and graduate diploma.

I think much better kung dyan mag.aaral sister mo, or mag. MA.. pero kung hindi option yun, try nyo mag.inquire sa UP may inooffer silang diploma for early childhood. I don't know lang kung pasok yan for the qualification sa aitsl.

Au_Vic · November 2017

@Celeana thanks sa info. yes, yun din ang pagkakaalam nmn na ung practicum sa pinas ay inooffer lang sa bachelors.

yep, most likely dito na lng mag-aaral ung sis ko, mejo expensive pero wala na kc kami choice lalo na sa time malapit na kc xa mag 45yo e.

ellaine · November 2017

Hi guys...mahirap tlga req ng aitsl.. Magaral ang plan ko, cguro tiis tiis lang kahit mahal. TESOL ang kukunin ko, V

caienri · November 2017

phil23green · November 2017

Just wanna ask if by chance somebody can answer my query. I submitted all of my documents to the authority for my skill which is AITSL last Oct 3. As per processing time, it will take till Dec 14, 10 weeks, for me to get a feedback. The twist is, they asked for more docs which they acknowledged for receiving today. Will the result date move to January 22 instead or be steady on dec 14? Thanks.

caienri · November 2017

@phil23green
Sabi sa website nila:

AITSL is committed to processing all applications within 10 weeks from the date of our initial notification email. The 10 week timeline only applies if a complete application is received. If an application is incomplete or incorrect this will delay processing of your application.

phil23green · November 2017

@caienri thanks for the response. Was yours mailed to you on the 10th week? So if 10 week timeline only applies for a complete application, then mine is probably reset. Sad but have to deal with it na lang.

caienri · November 2017

@phil23green
May 9 recieved and acknowledged by aitsl yung application ko. Then june 29 ko na receive yung positive assessment.

phil23green · November 2017

@caienri was it mailed to you in singapore?

caienri · November 2017

@phil23green it was mailed to my agent in Australia

phil23green · November 2017

@caienri i see po, in terms of yrs of experience, I have three yrs experience, will the eoi count it as 30 months as our school yr is only around 10 months? In other words, 2 yes and 6 mos?

caienri · November 2017

Received ITA for visa 189
70 pts
Early Childhood Teacher

phil23green · November 2017

@caienri great, but going back to my question, will it still be 3 yrs?

caienri · November 2017

@phil23green I’m not sure pero sa employment cert they stated from which month and year

phil23green · November 2017

@caienri thanks

ska1119 · December 2017

Hi. May tanong lng po ako for my sis in law situation..

She is a secondary school teacher in a public school in Philippines for 8 yrs now, and trying to migrate here in Australia thru applying a PR visa. However, the required IELTS points for teachers assessment is difficult for her to achieve.

Are there other option/s for her to be able to migrate here in AU? Like possible ba mag student visa muna? khit diploma course lng muna? mejo may kamahalan din kasi pag bachelors degree dito. I and my husband are PRs in QLD and we are considering that option and kung possibe din maka pag bigay ng sponsorship sa visa application nya. Pwede ba yun? student visa to PR then to citizen? another concern is, possible ba ma approve sya ng student visa for diploma course lng dito sa AU? knowing na Bachelor graduate sya sa pinas with 8 yrs exp?

sorry kung magulo. Anyone na may alam ng same case for the option that we are considering?

Salamat ng marami sa makakapag share.

jayCee · January 2018

Hello all!

Sana matulungan nyo po kami. Iisa-isahin ko na lng po ang scenerio.

Currently my wife is working as an Early Childhood teacher in Singapore for almost 5 yrs na this year. We are planning and hoping to work, apply for PR in Australia.

- She has an AB English degree in CNU, Cebu and a licensed secondary English teacher here in the Phils.
- Unfinished MA in Lit in Cebu
- She studied Specialist Diploma in Chid Psychology in Singapore

She doesn't have a degree, diploma nor cert in ECE, but she's planning to take an "Advance Certificate in Early Years" in Singapore while working. - Tanong will that help? Dapat po ba na kunin nya to? Or much better ba ang diploma?

- No IELTS yet

Ano po ba dapat namin gawin mga hakbang pa? Like the basic and sure steps pra maka-proceed sa pagpapa-assess sa AITSL na tiyak ang pagpasa?

Maraming Salamat po in advance. Malaki pong tulong ang mga kasagutan nyo sa mga tanong na ito. God bless all.

caienri · January 2018

@jayCee check po website ng AITSL

https://www.aitsl.edu.au/migrate-to-australia/frequently-asked-questions

ellaine · January 2018

Kapag 9 units lang po ba ang Practice Teaching pero 3 months ang narender na PT, ok na po ba yun? Masatisfy ba yung practicum part ng AITSL. Salamat

jayCee · January 2018

Thank you Ms @caienri sa response. question lang po, if kukuha po ba ng Adv Cert in Early Years o kaya Diploma in ECE sa Singapore ang wife ko makakatulong ba sya sa assessment? I mean, recognize ba kaya nila based sa stardards or qualifications sa Australia?

caienri · January 2018

@jayCee I’m not absolutely sure pero sa case ko I studied diploma din here in sg but ang recognized lang as evidence is my degree sa Philippines. I took up education so 4 years higher ed and minimum 1 year initial teacher education eh cover na ng degree ko.

reed_1282 · January 2018

Pwede po magtanong? I know AITSL requires IELTS Academic module (SL-8; RW-7) for assessment, but for language points po for immigration, could we use IELTS General Module instead, with perhaps higher scores? Thanks po.

jayCee · January 2018

@caienri Salamat po sa pagreply. Iclarify ko lang po, psencya na medyu naguguluhan lng po. hehehe... Bale my wife is a licensed secondary teacher, kasama na dun ang education units and 1 yr initial teacher educuation sa high school, dito sa Pinas pero hindi nya na-practice, mas natuon sya sa early childhood sa Singapore.Ano po ba pupwedi gawin naman pra makapag-apply kami? Ano po ba ang makakatulong na hakbang dapat namin simulan? Salamat po ulet. psencya na po.

caienri · January 2018

@jayCee
2 certificates kasi manggagaling sa AITSL
First is skills assessment.
Eto po yung requirements from AITSL that your wife MUST fulfill for assessment:

Four years university education
45 days practicum
IELTS

2nd is skilled EMPLOYMENT certificate or statement
Eto naman po criteria from AITSL website:

You are only eligible for a skilled employment statement if you gain a positive skills assessment for a school teacher occupation.

We assess skilled employment that was:

completed in any country
closely related to your nominated school teacher occupation
undertaken within the past 10 years
undertaken after the completion of an initial teacher education qualification
for at least four consecutive weeks and at least 20 hours per week
undertaken within a registered school setting
paid employment.

Ang hindi ko lng sure sa case nyo is if may 45 days practicum po ba xa with her secondary teaching qualifications?

Or if iconsider ng AITSL na her practicum from SG ECE (assuming meron) and then her degree sa Pinas.

The best scenario is she’ll receive a positive assessment from her qualifications from Pinas as a secondary school teacher. Then receive a skilled employment certificate as ECE based on her WORK experience in SG.

Pero po, hindi po ako expert. Si AITSL lang talaga makakapag clarify sa inyo. Unless other people here have the same case.

Sana po nakatulong ako.

caienri · January 2018

@reed_1282 hmmm ang naisip ko agad, may budget ka to take 2 ielts exams.

jayCee · January 2018

@caienri

Salamat po ng marami.

Sa question nyo po na: "Ang hindi ko lng sure sa case nyo is if may 45 days practicum po ba xa with her secondary teaching qualifications?" - Meron po, in fact halos 1 semester nga po yon with a university prof.

"The best scenario is she’ll receive a positive assessment from her qualifications from Pinas as a secondary school teacher. Then receive a skilled employment certificate as ECE based on her WORK experience in SG. "
- Pasencya na po ha, magaganda po kasi mga insights na galing sa inyo. Tanong lng po, so pwedi po ba mag-paAssess sya sa educational qualifications nya sa Pinas as a secondary school teacher? Pwedi po ba yon magamit niya KAHIT na ang skilled employment nya sa SG is ECE?

Kung hindi po ako nagkakamali base po sa nabanggit nyo, separate pala ang assessments ng AITSL sa Educ & Employment Skills?

Please po wag lang kayong magsasawa sa pagsagot sa mga tanong namin. Napakalaking tulong po nga lahat ng ito sa aming mga baguhan at nangangarap. Salamat nga marami po.

jayCee · January 2018

@caienri

Mam, tanong lang po... sa case po ninyu? Early Childhood po ba ang ang educ background nyo sa Pinas? Paano nyo sinimulan ang pagprocess nyo po Mam?

Any advise... in case magpa-assess po wife ko using her educ background niya sa Pinas as secondary school teacher licensed holder with morethan 45 days praticum, pupwedi po ba yon though ang employment skill is 5yrs ECE in SG?

Thanks po mam.

reed_1282 · January 2018

@caienri , hehehe. Mam wala nga po eh, naghahagilap pa saan mang bulsa. But gusto lang po makakuha maximum points sa language...do you have any idea po? Salamat!

caienri · January 2018

@jayCee

Kasi po sa case ko, bachelor of elementary educ ako sa pinas. Hnd xa considered na ECE here in sg as well as in Australia. But i studied diploma sa sg to be able to work in sg. I think your wife knows the L2 qualifications sa sg.

Ang considered po ng AITSL sa educational assessment part is yung pinas degree qualifications ko, my practicum din na 1 sem sa pinas, plus ielts. The evidence they stated in my certificate eh yung degree ko lang sa pinas and ielts although i also submitted my sg diploma qualifications (hindi ito stated sa certificate na emailed sakin).

I think similar kami ng case in terms of hindi kami both ECE sa Pinas. So I guess, okay magiging assessment nya considering makita ng AITSL na equivalent yung secondary education course nya sa Pinas with Australia (etong part na to ang hindi ko masasagot).

Sa skilled employment assessment naman, they considered my work experience from 2008 (3 years Prep level sa Pinas, 5 years sa SG in child care setting) so pasok xa sa Nominated occupation na ECE.

When you submit the application, pede sbay yang education and work assessment para isang process and bayad lang. hindi nmn i process ang skilled employment if hindi positive si education assessment. Pag separate mo pa sila, dagdag bayad and time Ng processing. So i suggest pagsabayin nyo na lang. and isang application lang din nmn sila.

First step is IELTS really. Naka 2 takes ako bago ma achieve ang 7/8 na score. Then, Gather all documents. Mejo matagal kasi kumuha ng mga documents from Pinas since nasa SG nga ako.

Take note, hindi po need ang PRC license. Hindi nila hiningi and I got my positive assessment.