General Skilled Immigration Visa - Step By Step Process

cjpsyche007 · January 10

Hello everyone,
I plan to do DIY sa pag apply ng visa 190.
Pwede po mag ask ng steps? Need ko po maliwanagan ano ang gagawin ko po next.
Na collect ko na po yung mga requirements, pero may inaantay pa ako na skills assessment that I applied for last December.

My husband and me is currently holding visa 482, si hubby ang principal at ako ang dependent.
More than 4 yrs na si hubby dito sa Australia, ako naman almost 2 yrs na.

This time sa Visa 190, ako po mag a-apply as principal, si hubby po ang dependent since 48 na po sya.

Ano po ba ang pagkakasunud-sunod?
SkillSelect EOI, Bridging Visa A, VIC EOI, upload documents to immiaccount and apply for EOI from VIC
May nabasa po ako na need mag apply ng Brdidging Visa A bago ako mag eoi sa VIC.

Thank you so much in advance po sa mga magka clarify at sasagot po.

cjpsyche007 · January 10

Any idea po kung magko close this January 2024 yung VIC EOI?

For this year, when is the best time to apply for a state nomination from VIC?

I'm worried na masaraduhan sa invitation sa 190 sa VIC.

I'm currently living in Victoria for almost 2 years.

Actually, I got my positive skills assessment from aitsl na,
pero waiting pa rin po sa Skilled Employment Statement (SES) from AITSL.
I am a Secondary Mathematics Teacher po, with more than 5 years work experience,
so nasa ANZCO 241411 po occupation ko.

Thank you so much po sa sasagot.. God bless..

jmrise · January 10

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@jmrise said:

@jmcounters said:

@jmrise said:

@jmcounters said:

@jmcounters said:

@jmrise said:
Hello po. I could use some help po. Planning to apply for 189/190/491. I have 6 years of experience as a part-time University Lecturer under the Engg department. I am claiming points here with experience 5-8 years which is 10 points. Question ko po is, credited ba yung experience ko na eto kahit na part-time job sya? I dont have any other job than this during my stint. Also counted ba sya as experience kahit na hindi sya yung usual occupation ng isang Engineer? Thank you po.

Needs to be at least 20 hours per week to claim points. Also you have to find a suitable occupation for that. Not sure if being a lecturer qualifies you to nominate Civil Engineer, or any Engineering occupation for that matter, as your occupation.

University Lecturer pala is on the list. This might be a better option for you.
https://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/[email protected]/Product+Lookup/43A58EF25D5EC3C5CA257B950013112D?opendocument

Follow-up lang po. do I need to be assessed by Engineers Australia or sa Vetassess po? Also once assessed does it mean that this is also the occupation na ipapractice ko given ma grant ako ng visa? Thank you po.

For university lecturer, VETASSESS.
https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/working-in-australia/skill-occupation-list

Once granted ka na for 189/190, you can work sa kahit anong job na gusto mo don. It will help to use your previous experience pero not required. You can change careers and all that.

Thank you po ulit. Clarify ko lang din po nabasa ko sa VETASSESS. May nakalagay kasi sa VETASSESS about sa FAQ nila:

What if my employment is outside of last five years and I have no additional information to add for the renewal process?

Employment that is outside of the last five years cannot be accepted and will not meet the skills assessment requirements.

Ibig sabihin po ba nito, employment that does not fall within the last five years are deemed to be irrelevant sa assessment? Eh how about po sa points na ikeclaim kapag may experience na 5 to 8 years under visa 189/190/49. Ibig sabihin po maximum na makeclaim ng mga VETASSESS assessed people will only be 5 years of experience? since ang icocount lang nila is your experience within the last 5 years?

Another question, tama ba na hindi nirerequire ni VETASSESS na may English test result during the skills assessment?

Thank you po.

What I understand from this is that to be qualified for assessment as lecturer, dapat naging occupation mo ito in the recent 5 years. If so, then possible pa din ma assess ng 10 years if you present the requirements. If let's say, yung last time na naging lecturer ka was 6 years ago, hindi ka qualified to nominate that occupation.

Thank you po.

jmrise · January 10

Hello po question related to VETASSESS pa rin po, I have read thru reddit po one of the huge mistakes for VETASSESS is when you submit an application that does not show a FULL CALENDAR YEAR of employment. Pag ganto daw, malamang sa malamang mag negative daw assessment nila. How true po? May mga nakapag VETASSESS na po ba here an hindi full calendar year mga experience and negative sa skills assessment? Minsan po kasi saken hindi buong taon yung experience ko like 10 months etc. Sana po masagot tanong ko po. Thanks po.

castm007 · January 11

Hello happy new year..
Meron po kaya ditO pede makatulong sa paggawa nang CDR..😁 pinarevise nang migration agent yung gawa ko...hahaha

RheaMARN1171933 · January 12

@cjpsyche007 said:
Any idea po kung magko close this January 2024 yung VIC EOI?

For this year, when is the best time to apply for a state nomination from VIC?

I'm worried na masaraduhan sa invitation sa 190 sa VIC.

I'm currently living in Victoria for almost 2 years.

Actually, I got my positive skills assessment from aitsl na,
pero waiting pa rin po sa Skilled Employment Statement (SES) from AITSL.
I am a Secondary Mathematics Teacher po, with more than 5 years work experience,
so nasa ANZCO 241411 po occupation ko.

Thank you so much po sa sasagot.. God bless..

There’s really no best time/everyday is the best time. As soon as you meet the eligibility criteria and have documents prove your claim, lodge the EOI.

Edwardsq11516 · January 13

Hi po.
May positive outcome na po ako ng CDR and RSEA last year.
Question po. Pano po mag update ng work experience? Need po ba na magpa RSEA ulit?
Salamat po sa sasagot.

Ozdrims · January 13

@Edwardsq11516 said:
Hi po.
May positive outcome na po ako ng CDR and RSEA last year.
Question po. Pano po mag update ng work experience? Need po ba na magpa RSEA ulit?
Salamat po sa sasagot.

To evidence a continuing skilled employment - you can provide COE, reference letters, payslips , notice of assessment or tax returns , contract , bank statement etc.
No need for RSEA

Edwardsq11516 · January 13

@Ozdrims said:

@Edwardsq11516 said:
Hi po.
May positive outcome na po ako ng CDR and RSEA last year.
Question po. Pano po mag update ng work experience? Need po ba na magpa RSEA ulit?
Salamat po sa sasagot.

To evidence a continuing skilled employment - you can provide COE, reference letters, payslips , notice of assessment or tax returns , contract , bank statement etc.
No need for RSEA

Salamat po Ozdrims.

Mag 1 year na po kasi sa trabaho ako this end of january onshore.

castm007 · January 14

Hello good morning ask ko lang if ok lang ba na yung ITR is di continous yung year ex. 2015, 2016, 2019, 2020, 2021. May mha year na blanko...nawala ko kasi yung ibang ITR ko eh...if ever po baka po may alam if paano mag request nang ITR sa BIR Kasi di napo nag bibigay nang copy nang previous year ang company namin...salamat po

cjpsyche007 · January 15

Hello po, speaking of EOI, kailangan po ba i-input ko yung pte exam scores ng partner ko kahit below 50 po?

Do I need to answer YES or NO sa question po na "did the partner take an english test in the past 36 years kahit below 50 score nya? magreretake po sya to increase his points.

cjpsyche007 · January 15

hello po, regarding po sa EOI, yung bachelor of secondary education major in mathematics,

Anong category po sya nagfo fall?
A. Bachelor in science, business or technology
or B. Bachelor (Other)?

A or B?
Thank you po sa sasagot.

Ozdrims · January 15

@cjpsyche007 said:
Hello po, speaking of EOI, kailangan po ba i-input ko yung pte exam scores ng partner ko kahit below 50 po?

Do I need to answer YES or NO sa question po na "did the partner take an english test in the past 36 years kahit below 50 score nya? magreretake po sya to increase his points.

Yes po dito,update lang once you get latest results

tumitingala · January 15

hi. seeking advice. i got my visa 476 grant last may 2023. i applied in may 2021. in all of my documents i claimed that i am single.

however, i am now in a serious relationship (started after the grant). how should i approach informing immi po na we're a de facto couple? pwede po ba ako magrelationship change from single to de facto after the grant but before first entry?

for context. my partner is also planning to apply for a student visa this month tapos start ng program niya ay sa july. i will be going to australia in may.

Ozdrims · January 15

@cjpsyche007 said:
hello po, regarding po sa EOI, yung bachelor of secondary education major in mathematics,

Anong category po sya nagfo fall?
A. Bachelor in science, business or technology
or B. Bachelor (Other)?

A or B?
Thank you po sa sasagot.

Yung degree is awarded as BSED hindi po sya under College of Arts that can award BS or BA

Bachelors of Secondary Education is in the B category po.

cjpsyche007 · January 15

Regarding po sa ROI for Vic po.
Ano po correct anaser po na ilalagay sa:

What are your estimated annual earnings from your Victorian employment?
Employer Postcode:

I've been working po for almost 2 years pero di po sya under my nominated occupation and I think, di rin po skilled employment.

Thank you so much po for all the helpful information.

cjpsyche007 · January 15

Regarding po sa ROI for Vic po.
Ano po correct *answer po na ilalagay sa:

What are your estimated annual earnings from your Victorian employment?
Employer Postcode:

I've been working po for almost 2 years dito sa Victoria pero di po sya under my nominated occupation and I think, di rin po sya under ng skilled employment.

Thank you so much po.

Ozdrims · January 15

@tumitingala said:
hi. seeking advice. i got my visa 476 grant last may 2023. i applied in may 2021. in all of my documents i claimed that i am single.

however, i am now in a serious relationship (started after the grant). how should i approach informing immi po na we're a de facto couple? pwede po ba ako magrelationship change from single to de facto after the grant but before first entry?

for context. my partner is also planning to apply for a student visa this month tapos start ng program niya ay sa july. i will be going to australia in may.

Check po nila ano visa conditions nila?
May 8515 conditions po ba?

Must not marry or enter into a de facto relationship before first entry ?

Cerberus13 · January 15

Hi.
After ng grant at lumipat ng address, need ko ba iinform ang Home Affairs?

karetui107 · January 15

Hi, everyone! Currently looking into the skilled and regional visas for AU. However, I'm quite confused regarding the skills assessment portion, and I'm not sure if I have high chances to get a positive assessment, and if I pass the 65 points requirement in general.

Some details:
Age: At least 25 but less than 33 years
Partner skills: Single
Occupation: Graphic Designer

For the VETASSESS skills assessment, this is the requirements for a positive assessment:

For the AQF degree, I graduated from a Liberal Arts and Commerce double major program (AB Communication and BS Marketing) from a Section 1 school. Does this guarantee it'll be recognized as an AQF Bachelor's degree? It is not a highly relevant major as well (I think).

And considering that, I only have 3 years of relevant work experience.

If my education degree does get counted as an AQF Bachelor's degree (but not highly relevent), then according to the table, it should still be possible to get a positive skills assessment with 3 years minimum of highly relevant work, but I don't know how this will affect my overall points. Will the 3 years get deducted and count my work experience as zero?

If so, how are my chances under the points system (while assuming I get the full points for English and community language scores)?

Thank you in advance to anyone who can help enlighten me.

Ozdrims · January 15

@cjpsyche007 said:
Regarding po sa ROI for Vic po.
Ano po correct *answer po na ilalagay sa:

_ 1. What are your estimated annual earnings from your Victorian employment?_ Check the Livein Melbourne website which tell pano mag calculate ng annual earnings

Link: https://liveinmelbourne.vic.gov.au/migrate/skilled-migration-visas/earnings-calculator

__2. Employer Postcode: (Check your employer's declared business address within VIC )

> I've been working po for almost 2 years dito sa Victoria pero di po sya under my nominated occupation and I think, di rin po sya under ng skilled employment.

From LiveinMelbourne website

Regarding earnings to be included in your estimated annual earnings from your VICTORIAN employment
Skilled employment includes any role that is at **skill levels 1,2 or 3 **in the relevant ANZSCO classification.
_Skilled employment does not have to be in your nominated occupation, but your earnings must be from skilled employment.
For example, if your nominated occupation is Mechanical Engineer (ANZSCO skill level 1), you cannot include earnings from employment if you worked as a Truck Driver (ANZSCO skill level 4), but you could include earnings if you worked as a Mechanical Engineering Technician (ANZSCO skill level 2).

Ozdrims · January 15

@cjpsyche007 it says that your employment may not need be in the nominated occupation but must be earned from a skilled employment

tumitingala · January 15

@Ozdrims said:

@tumitingala said:
hi. seeking advice. i got my visa 476 grant last may 2023. i applied in may 2021. in all of my documents i claimed that i am single.

however, i am now in a serious relationship (started after the grant). how should i approach informing immi po na we're a de facto couple? pwede po ba ako magrelationship change from single to de facto after the grant but before first entry?

for context. my partner is also planning to apply for a student visa this month tapos start ng program niya ay sa july. i will be going to australia in may.

Check po nila ano visa conditions nila?
May 8515 conditions po ba?

Must not marry or enter into a de facto relationship before first entry ?

hi! nope no conditions po yung visa ko. ang napagdecide po namin as of now ay wala akong need ideclare, pero sa application niya ideclare na niya na de facto kami since sept 2023

jmcounters · January 16

@tumitingala said:

@Ozdrims said:

@tumitingala said:
hi. seeking advice. i got my visa 476 grant last may 2023. i applied in may 2021. in all of my documents i claimed that i am single.

however, i am now in a serious relationship (started after the grant). how should i approach informing immi po na we're a de facto couple? pwede po ba ako magrelationship change from single to de facto after the grant but before first entry?

for context. my partner is also planning to apply for a student visa this month tapos start ng program niya ay sa july. i will be going to australia in may.

Check po nila ano visa conditions nila?
May 8515 conditions po ba?

Must not marry or enter into a de facto relationship before first entry ?

hi! nope no conditions po yung visa ko. ang napagdecide po namin as of now ay wala akong need ideclare, pero sa application niya ideclare na niya na de facto kami since sept 2023

Visa are only triggered upon entry. Pero yung visa mo naman is not point-tested. AFAIK, sensitive lang sa relationship status sa 189/190 kasi may effect sya sa claimed points. I think you can go change your status with FORM 1022 or yung option sa IMMI na para sa changes in situation, in this case, your relationship status. Pero it's only my understanding. Best to seek advise sa migration agent kasi it might jeoperdize yung chances ninyo in the future pag may inconsistencies sa declaration.

tumitingala · January 16

@jmcounters said:

@tumitingala said:

@Ozdrims said:

@tumitingala said:
hi. seeking advice. i got my visa 476 grant last may 2023. i applied in may 2021. in all of my documents i claimed that i am single.

however, i am now in a serious relationship (started after the grant). how should i approach informing immi po na we're a de facto couple? pwede po ba ako magrelationship change from single to de facto after the grant but before first entry?

for context. my partner is also planning to apply for a student visa this month tapos start ng program niya ay sa july. i will be going to australia in may.

Check po nila ano visa conditions nila?
May 8515 conditions po ba?

Must not marry or enter into a de facto relationship before first entry ?

hi! nope no conditions po yung visa ko. ang napagdecide po namin as of now ay wala akong need ideclare, pero sa application niya ideclare na niya na de facto kami since sept 2023

Visa are only triggered upon entry. Pero yung visa mo naman is not point-tested. AFAIK, sensitive lang sa relationship status sa 189/190 kasi may effect sya sa claimed points. I think you can go change your status with FORM 1022 or yung option sa IMMI na para sa changes in situation, in this case, your relationship status. Pero it's only my understanding. Best to seek advise sa migration agent kasi it might jeoperdize yung chances ninyo in the future pag may inconsistencies sa declaration.

hi! no option in my immi na kasi to change information about relationship. address, email address, and passport na lang yung may options doon. saw this din though not sure if credible siya () may comment din nag-ask pano mag inform about marital status after grant of 476, and he replied na no need to inform them daw.

Ozdrims · January 16

@tumitingala said:

@jmcounters said:

@tumitingala said:

@Ozdrims said:

@tumitingala said:
hi. seeking advice. i got my visa 476 grant last may 2023. i applied in may 2021. in all of my documents i claimed that i am single.

however, i am now in a serious relationship (started after the grant). how should i approach informing immi po na we're a de facto couple? pwede po ba ako magrelationship change from single to de facto after the grant but before first entry?

for context. my partner is also planning to apply for a student visa this month tapos start ng program niya ay sa july. i will be going to australia in may.

Check po nila ano visa conditions nila?
May 8515 conditions po ba?

Must not marry or enter into a de facto relationship before first entry ?

hi! nope no conditions po yung visa ko. ang napagdecide po namin as of now ay wala akong need ideclare, pero sa application niya ideclare na niya na de facto kami since sept 2023

Visa are only triggered upon entry. Pero yung visa mo naman is not point-tested. AFAIK, sensitive lang sa relationship status sa 189/190 kasi may effect sya sa claimed points. I think you can go change your status with FORM 1022 or yung option sa IMMI na para sa changes in situation, in this case, your relationship status. Pero it's only my understanding. Best to seek advise sa migration agent kasi it might jeoperdize yung chances ninyo in the future pag may inconsistencies sa declaration.

hi! no option in my immi na kasi to change information about relationship. address, email address, and passport na lang yung may options doon. saw this din though not sure if credible siya () may comment din nag-ask pano mag inform about marital status after grant of 476, and he replied na no need to inform them daw.

If no visa conditions tied to the visa ,you will have no issues .Sa permanent visa application lang meron first entry that you need those declarations as it breaches your visa conditions if you declared single but on a de facto or married status . Down the road and you decide to apply partner visa at a later stage and did not mention your relationship status before, that will trigger a visa cancellation.

tumitingala · January 16

@Ozdrims said:

@tumitingala said:

@jmcounters said:

@tumitingala said:

@Ozdrims said:

@tumitingala said:
hi. seeking advice. i got my visa 476 grant last may 2023. i applied in may 2021. in all of my documents i claimed that i am single.

however, i am now in a serious relationship (started after the grant). how should i approach informing immi po na we're a de facto couple? pwede po ba ako magrelationship change from single to de facto after the grant but before first entry?

for context. my partner is also planning to apply for a student visa this month tapos start ng program niya ay sa july. i will be going to australia in may.

Check po nila ano visa conditions nila?
May 8515 conditions po ba?

Must not marry or enter into a de facto relationship before first entry ?

hi! nope no conditions po yung visa ko. ang napagdecide po namin as of now ay wala akong need ideclare, pero sa application niya ideclare na niya na de facto kami since sept 2023

Visa are only triggered upon entry. Pero yung visa mo naman is not point-tested. AFAIK, sensitive lang sa relationship status sa 189/190 kasi may effect sya sa claimed points. I think you can go change your status with FORM 1022 or yung option sa IMMI na para sa changes in situation, in this case, your relationship status. Pero it's only my understanding. Best to seek advise sa migration agent kasi it might jeoperdize yung chances ninyo in the future pag may inconsistencies sa declaration.

hi! no option in my immi na kasi to change information about relationship. address, email address, and passport na lang yung may options doon. saw this din though not sure if credible siya () may comment din nag-ask pano mag inform about marital status after grant of 476, and he replied na no need to inform them daw.

If no visa conditions tied to the visa ,you will have no issues .Sa permanent visa application lang meron first entry that you need those declarations as it breaches your visa conditions if you declared single but on a de facto or married status . Down the road and you decide to apply partner visa at a later stage and did not mention your relationship status before, that will trigger a visa cancellation.

alright, so ok lang po ideclare ng partner ko sa student visa application niya na de facto kami (started after my grant) without me informing immi na on my account?

the reason we want to declare sa application niya is because 18 months lang valid yung visa ko, and if in any case di magwork out yung any pathways for me, maiiwan siya sa australia kasi 2 yrs yung studies niya. eh nag-aral lang naman siya doon because i'm going there haha. so as early as now we want to inform them of the relationship, para no problems na kami if ever we'll apply me as her subsequent entrant pag patapos na yung 18 months ko

greenlight_13 · January 16

Hi po, asside from Victoria, anu pa po mga state ang need ng ROI? Salamat po

Ozdrims · January 16

@tumitingala said:

@Ozdrims said:

@tumitingala said:

@jmcounters said:

@tumitingala said:

@Ozdrims said:

@tumitingala said:
hi. seeking advice. i got my visa 476 grant last may 2023. i applied in may 2021. in all of my documents i claimed that i am single.

however, i am now in a serious relationship (started after the grant). how should i approach informing immi po na we're a de facto couple? pwede po ba ako magrelationship change from single to de facto after the grant but before first entry?

for context. my partner is also planning to apply for a student visa this month tapos start ng program niya ay sa july. i will be going to australia in may.

Check po nila ano visa conditions nila?
May 8515 conditions po ba?

Must not marry or enter into a de facto relationship before first entry ?

hi! nope no conditions po yung visa ko. ang napagdecide po namin as of now ay wala akong need ideclare, pero sa application niya ideclare na niya na de facto kami since sept 2023

Visa are only triggered upon entry. Pero yung visa mo naman is not point-tested. AFAIK, sensitive lang sa relationship status sa 189/190 kasi may effect sya sa claimed points. I think you can go change your status with FORM 1022 or yung option sa IMMI na para sa changes in situation, in this case, your relationship status. Pero it's only my understanding. Best to seek advise sa migration agent kasi it might jeoperdize yung chances ninyo in the future pag may inconsistencies sa declaration.

hi! no option in my immi na kasi to change information about relationship. address, email address, and passport na lang yung may options doon. saw this din though not sure if credible siya () may comment din nag-ask pano mag inform about marital status after grant of 476, and he replied na no need to inform them daw.

If no visa conditions tied to the visa ,you will have no issues .Sa permanent visa application lang meron first entry that you need those declarations as it breaches your visa conditions if you declared single but on a de facto or married status . Down the road and you decide to apply partner visa at a later stage and did not mention your relationship status before, that will trigger a visa cancellation.

alright, so ok lang po ideclare ng partner ko sa student visa application niya na de facto kami (started after my grant) without me informing immi na on my account? Yes no need na

the reason we want to declare sa application niya is because 18 months lang valid yung visa ko, and if in any case di magwork out yung any pathways for me, maiiwan siya sa australia kasi 2 yrs yung studies niya. eh nag-aral lang naman siya doon because i'm going there haha. so as early as now we want to inform them of the relationship, para no problems na kami if ever we'll apply me as her subsequent entrant pag patapos na yung 18 months ko

She can declare it when applying

tumitingala · January 16

@Ozdrims said:

@tumitingala said:

@Ozdrims said:

@tumitingala said:

@jmcounters said:

@tumitingala said:

@Ozdrims said:

@tumitingala said:
hi. seeking advice. i got my visa 476 grant last may 2023. i applied in may 2021. in all of my documents i claimed that i am single.

however, i am now in a serious relationship (started after the grant). how should i approach informing immi po na we're a de facto couple? pwede po ba ako magrelationship change from single to de facto after the grant but before first entry?

for context. my partner is also planning to apply for a student visa this month tapos start ng program niya ay sa july. i will be going to australia in may.

Check po nila ano visa conditions nila?
May 8515 conditions po ba?

Must not marry or enter into a de facto relationship before first entry ?

hi! nope no conditions po yung visa ko. ang napagdecide po namin as of now ay wala akong need ideclare, pero sa application niya ideclare na niya na de facto kami since sept 2023

Visa are only triggered upon entry. Pero yung visa mo naman is not point-tested. AFAIK, sensitive lang sa relationship status sa 189/190 kasi may effect sya sa claimed points. I think you can go change your status with FORM 1022 or yung option sa IMMI na para sa changes in situation, in this case, your relationship status. Pero it's only my understanding. Best to seek advise sa migration agent kasi it might jeoperdize yung chances ninyo in the future pag may inconsistencies sa declaration.

hi! no option in my immi na kasi to change information about relationship. address, email address, and passport na lang yung may options doon. saw this din though not sure if credible siya () may comment din nag-ask pano mag inform about marital status after grant of 476, and he replied na no need to inform them daw.

If no visa conditions tied to the visa ,you will have no issues .Sa permanent visa application lang meron first entry that you need those declarations as it breaches your visa conditions if you declared single but on a de facto or married status . Down the road and you decide to apply partner visa at a later stage and did not mention your relationship status before, that will trigger a visa cancellation.

alright, so ok lang po ideclare ng partner ko sa student visa application niya na de facto kami (started after my grant) without me informing immi na on my account? Yes no need na

the reason we want to declare sa application niya is because 18 months lang valid yung visa ko, and if in any case di magwork out yung any pathways for me, maiiwan siya sa australia kasi 2 yrs yung studies niya. eh nag-aral lang naman siya doon because i'm going there haha. so as early as now we want to inform them of the relationship, para no problems na kami if ever we'll apply me as her subsequent entrant pag patapos na yung 18 months ko

She can declare it when applying