EOI Concerns

starscream · July 31

@MLBS said:

@starscream said:
@MLBS Thank You for your insights.
Would it be better if let's say I find. job in SG or Middle East then try to Apply for Aus Visa there? Will it help?

Trying to find other possible ways of getting invited. Btw I'll be turning 43 this year

May age limit ang PR visa, til 45 lang pwede mag apply. Finding jobs overseas do not make a difference in the pointing system.

ohh ok ok. thank you again for answering my question!

whimpee · July 31

@starscream said:

@MLBS said:

@starscream said:
@MLBS Thank You for your insights.
Would it be better if let's say I find. job in SG or Middle East then try to Apply for Aus Visa there? Will it help?

Trying to find other possible ways of getting invited. Btw I'll be turning 43 this year

May age limit ang PR visa, til 45 lang pwede mag apply. Finding jobs overseas do not make a difference in the pointing system.

ohh ok ok. thank you again for answering my question!

I guess yung value of working overseas is that it can add potential for finding an employer who is willing to sponsor you for 482 visa (no age limit).

Morantevic13 · August 1

@mathilde9 said:
Prepare you work reference letters, payment evidences since these are the ones most of us are having a hard sourcing. All documents that must support the points you claimed in your EOI, have them handy. NBI Clearance and the like are easy to get once you have the invitation lalo na if you're in the PH.

Can use I the one that I submitted with vetasses? I only have some couple of payslips and bankstatements (6 months) tinanggap naman ng vetasses. Di kasi uso payslip sa middle east and wala din tax stuff.

mathilde9 · August 1

@Morantevic13 said:

@mathilde9 said:
Prepare you work reference letters, payment evidences since these are the ones most of us are having a hard sourcing. All documents that must support the points you claimed in your EOI, have them handy. NBI Clearance and the like are easy to get once you have the invitation lalo na if you're in the PH.

Can use I the one that I submitted with vetasses? I only have some couple of payslips and bankstatements (6 months) tinanggap naman ng vetasses. Di kasi uso payslip sa middle east and wala din tax stuff.

Yes use the ones from your assessment. Ganon lang ginawa ko din when I lodged the visa. Then I provided additional documents specifically for my current employment. Hindi kasi ako familiar sa vetasses process. Pero sa ACS kasi kelangan complete na payment evidences para maassess yung skills mo. Tapos during nomination, NSW asked for my 6-month bank statements.

Morantevic13 · August 1

@mathilde9 said:

@Morantevic13 said:

@mathilde9 said:
Prepare you work reference letters, payment evidences since these are the ones most of us are having a hard sourcing. All documents that must support the points you claimed in your EOI, have them handy. NBI Clearance and the like are easy to get once you have the invitation lalo na if you're in the PH.

Can use I the one that I submitted with vetasses? I only have some couple of payslips and bankstatements (6 months) tinanggap naman ng vetasses. Di kasi uso payslip sa middle east and wala din tax stuff.

Yes use the ones from your assessment. Ganon lang ginawa ko din when I lodged the visa. Then I provided additional documents specifically for my current employment. Hindi kasi ako familiar sa vetasses process. Pero sa ACS kasi kelangan complete na payment evidences para maassess yung skills mo. Tapos during nomination, NSW asked for my 6-month bank statements.

I see. Thanks! Hirap na kasi kumuha ng additiona documents lalo nandito nako sa au. Hirap pa naman kausap ng mga arabo.

asfal0th · September 8

Hello, for lodging the EOI po ba, kailangan isama yung middle name sa Given Names? Thank you.

CantThinkAnyUserName · September 8

@asfal0th said:
Hello, for lodging the EOI po ba, kailangan isama yung middle name sa Given Names? Thank you.

Oo yata. ganyan din input ko kasi ganun din ginawa namin sa pte, kasama yung middle name sa Given name.

asfal0th · September 8

Thank you @CantThinkAnyUserName.

Also, has anyone lodged an EOI with a skilled partner pero hindi nakapag-skills assessment? Tama ba yung ganito sa EOI na nilagay ko?

casssie · September 9

@asfal0th said:
Thank you @CantThinkAnyUserName.

Also, has anyone lodged an EOI with a skilled partner pero hindi nakapag-skills assessment? Tama ba yung ganito sa EOI na nilagay ko?

if you are claiming partner points (skilled), your partner needs to provide a valid skills assessment:

aethos · September 9

Hey guys, quick one! Does skillselect automatically deduct yung experience mo pag more than 10 years na? E.g, yung isang employment mo is June 2014 to June 2017. Mauupdate ba sya? If ever man maka receive ka ng invite, wala naman ba issue yun sa overclaiming of points given na pasok parin sa 8 years + exp bracket?

mathilde9 · September 9

@aethos said:
Hey guys, quick one! Does skillselect automatically deduct yung experience mo pag more than 10 years na? E.g, yung isang employment mo is June 2014 to June 2017. Mauupdate ba sya? If ever man maka receive ka ng invite, wala naman ba issue yun sa overclaiming of points given na pasok parin sa 8 years + exp bracket?

Walang deduction sa skillselect. Concern ko din yan before actually. 😅 Inaabangan ko mag deduct sya pero wala naman nangyari.

aethos · September 9

@mathilde9 said:

@aethos said:
Hey guys, quick one! Does skillselect automatically deduct yung experience mo pag more than 10 years na? E.g, yung isang employment mo is June 2014 to June 2017. Mauupdate ba sya? If ever man maka receive ka ng invite, wala naman ba issue yun sa overclaiming of points given na pasok parin sa 8 years + exp bracket?

Walang deduction sa skillselect. Concern ko din yan before actually. 😅 Inaabangan ko mag deduct sya pero wala naman nangyari.

Ano ginawa mo when you apply for nomination and lodge visa? Nilagay mo parin?

asfal0th · September 9

Hello, meron bang benefit kung magkahiwalay yung EOI ng 190 and 491 for a specific state? Or okay lang yun na nasa isang EOI for both 190/491?

Also, what if mag invite sila for 491 first before 190? Pero I want to wait for 190? Mas okay ba na 190 lang muna yung i-lodge na EOI? Advice please. Thank you.

casssie · September 10

@asfal0th said:
Hello, meron bang benefit kung magkahiwalay yung EOI ng 190 and 491 for a specific state? Or okay lang yun na nasa isang EOI for both 190/491?

Also, what if mag invite sila for 491 first before 190? Pero I want to wait for 190? Mas okay ba na 190 lang muna yung i-lodge na EOI? Advice please. Thank you.

an invitation is never guaranteed. grab the invitation kung saan ka man unang ma-invite. if na-invite ka for 491 but you want to wait for 190, then you are wasting the 491 invite. if you are planning to wait for the 190, then apply only for the 190.

mathilde9 · September 10

@aethos said:

@mathilde9 said:

@aethos said:
Hey guys, quick one! Does skillselect automatically deduct yung experience mo pag more than 10 years na? E.g, yung isang employment mo is June 2014 to June 2017. Mauupdate ba sya? If ever man maka receive ka ng invite, wala naman ba issue yun sa overclaiming of points given na pasok parin sa 8 years + exp bracket?

Walang deduction sa skillselect. Concern ko din yan before actually. 😅 Inaabangan ko mag deduct sya pero wala naman nangyari.

Ano ginawa mo when you apply for nomination and lodge visa? Nilagay mo parin?

Yes nilagay ko pa rin nung time na yun. Since pasok sya sa deemed skilled date ng ACS assessment ko.

aethos · September 10

@mathilde9 said:

@aethos said:

@mathilde9 said:

@aethos said:
Hey guys, quick one! Does skillselect automatically deduct yung experience mo pag more than 10 years na? E.g, yung isang employment mo is June 2014 to June 2017. Mauupdate ba sya? If ever man maka receive ka ng invite, wala naman ba issue yun sa overclaiming of points given na pasok parin sa 8 years + exp bracket?

Walang deduction sa skillselect. Concern ko din yan before actually. 😅 Inaabangan ko mag deduct sya pero wala naman nangyari.

Ano ginawa mo when you apply for nomination and lodge visa? Nilagay mo parin?

Yes nilagay ko pa rin nung time na yun. Since pasok sya sa deemed skilled date ng ACS assessment ko.

Maraming salamat! Nagrready lang, sakali.

asfal0th · September 10

@casssie said:

@asfal0th said:
Hello, meron bang benefit kung magkahiwalay yung EOI ng 190 and 491 for a specific state? Or okay lang yun na nasa isang EOI for both 190/491?

Also, what if mag invite sila for 491 first before 190? Pero I want to wait for 190? Mas okay ba na 190 lang muna yung i-lodge na EOI? Advice please. Thank you.

an invitation is never guaranteed. grab the invitation kung saan ka man unang ma-invite. if na-invite ka for 491 but you want to wait for 190, then you are wasting the 491 invite. if you are planning to wait for the 190, then apply only for the 190.

Thank you. Allowed ba yung multiple applications? Let’s say nainvite ako first sa 491 tapos after some time maiinvite sa 190. Pwede ko ba applyan both?

mathilde9 · September 10

@asfal0th said:

@casssie said:

@asfal0th said:
Hello, meron bang benefit kung magkahiwalay yung EOI ng 190 and 491 for a specific state? Or okay lang yun na nasa isang EOI for both 190/491?

Also, what if mag invite sila for 491 first before 190? Pero I want to wait for 190? Mas okay ba na 190 lang muna yung i-lodge na EOI? Advice please. Thank you.

an invitation is never guaranteed. grab the invitation kung saan ka man unang ma-invite. if na-invite ka for 491 but you want to wait for 190, then you are wasting the 491 invite. if you are planning to wait for the 190, then apply only for the 190.

Thank you. Allowed ba yung multiple applications? Let’s say nainvite ako first sa 491 tapos after some time maiinvite sa 190. Pwede ko ba applyan both?

Meron dito nainvite 491 tapos naglodge. Then after a few months received a 190 invite, subsequently withdrew 491 visa application. Forfeited 491 visa fee. May recommendation din ang DHA when you lodge a skilled visa application to consider withdrawing your remaining EOIs. But it's up to you. Pag 190 talaga gusto, pwede naman.

It just doesn't make sense to "apply for both". Sayang ang pera 4700aud din yun.
The new visa grant will always override the current visa in general. But 190 overriding 491, hindi yata yan pwede. I could be wrong pero baka pwede, ewan natin.

Ozdrims · September 11

@asfal0th said:
Hello, meron bang benefit kung magkahiwalay yung EOI ng 190 and 491 for a specific state? Or okay lang yun na nasa isang EOI for both 190/491?

Also, what if mag invite sila for 491 first before 190? Pero I want to wait for 190? Mas okay ba na 190 lang muna yung i-lodge na EOI? Advice please. Thank you.

What others are also advising is to submit all in separate EOIs for more chances ,which is a great tip. You will probably end up getting invited sa state which has that nomination spot.

Suggestion A -If you plan for 190 first or 491 later -consider lodging both in separate EOIs.

You can consider - SUSPENDING the 491 EOIs for sometime while you wait for 190 invitation to materialise. Maglagay ka lang nang timeline when mo ito gagawin.

Suggestion B- If you are ok either 190 or 491 comes first , -then just let the EOIs be active at all times.

Either the two will cost you time and chances and also chances for others while pursuing personal goals.

If you execute A- you will most likely get 190 first or worst is madedelay yung pagka invite sa 491 but you save yourself on what if mainvite pa pla ako sa 190.

If you execute B- pwedeng 491 mauna , go ahead then 190 darating then dump 190 or vice versa.

If you cooperate with suggestion B it ends here,just lodged which one is received first. Then withdraw the irrelevant EOIs.

If you defect with suggestion B in scenarios below:

Scenario 1) During 491 nomination process -you get a 190 pre-invite.

Possibly you can still do a favour
Save the nomination spot for 491 by withdrawing the nomination application.Apply 190 nomination.Proceed next step- both parties 🥳 will be happy. You have done one person a fair chance.

Scenario 2) During application of visa ,491 gets lodged na then you get 190 pre-invite .
You might do-
1)Possibly you might waste money:
Forego your visa fees for 491 , go ahead with the 190 nomination and lodge visa then withdraw irrelevant EOIs after that.
2)Save the 491 visa fees ,waste a 190 pre-invite
dump 190 pre-invite then withdraw irrelevant EOIs.

With scenario 2 - either 190/491 visa fees or pre-invite is at risk na masacrifice. ☺️

Hehe possible cases lang mga nasa taas, they might not even happen.

greenlight_13 · September 11

Hello po. Ask ko lang po, if bumaba po yung points due to age, need po ba ei update lahat ng EOI na lodge ko?

mathilde9 · September 11

@greenlight_13 said:
Hello po. Ask ko lang po, if bumaba po yung points due to age, need po ba ei update lahat ng EOI na lodge ko?

Automatic na sya nagdeduct ng points.

donamolar · September 11

Ask lang po,

Nagkamali po ako sa claiming ko sa EOI ko, dahil sa date na nalagay sa EOI. like December (09/12/2023, September (12/09/2023) po yung na lagay kong Month. Dbale na miscalculated ko po yung years of experience ko ng minus 0.5 months to make it 5 years.
Now, hindi ko din po na updated yung EOI ko sa latest job ko now na almost 10 months na po?
Na invite po ako sa 189 and submitted the application, magrant po ba yun or hindi?

Patulong po, hindi ko alam kong anong magiging sagot sa mga tanong ko. Salamat.

Ozdrims · September 11

@donamolar said:
Ask lang po,

Nagkamali po ako sa claiming ko sa EOI ko, dahil sa date na nalagay sa EOI. like December (09/12/2023, September (12/09/2023) po yung na lagay kong Month. Dbale na miscalculated ko po yung years of experience ko ng minus 0.5 months to make it 5 years.

Now, hindi ko din po na updated yung EOI ko sa latest job ko now na almost 10 months na po?

Na invite po ako sa 189 and submitted the application, magrant po ba yun or hindi?

Patulong po, hindi ko alam kong anong magiging sagot sa mga tanong ko. Salamat.

It happened na po , you can leverage yung current experience at the time of invitation to offset yung miscalculation sa EOI.
I do think is a mistake but may way out naman jan, a mistake is taken as it is as long as you disclose it and will not be a grounds of refusal as long as you do the steps to correct it.
During EOI stage -you can’t update any dates once nainvite na.

You can maintain the dates during lodgement then lodge a form to correct the mistake (Form 1023?)

Or correct the dates entry during lodgement na and attach (Form 1023 to explain the EOI mismatch)

Attach it in the application stating the error during EOI submission.

The 10 months you are saying is at the current employment episode? Does it not automatically update your points ? It will count 5 years and 9.5months consideration is during the invitation - the experience is locked in.
5 years is still met, just provide additional evidence for the last 10 months to be counted.
Cheers!

donamolar · September 11

Thanks. Na lodge ko na po yung application. Yung form 1033 paano po yun e attach?

Also, yung job ko po now is new company na 10 mos. pero same roles and responsibilities.

Ozdrims · September 11

Ok ,claim that experience provide same format of employment evidence as when you had during skills assessment
Form 1023 - notification of incorrect answers you can find it in immi under forms meron din yan

donamolar · September 11

@Ozdrims said:
Ok ,claim that experience provide same format of employment evidence as when you had during skills assessment
Form 1023 - notification of incorrect answers you can find it in immi under forms meron din yan

Pwedi ko parin po ba soya e attached kahit nasubmit kona po?

Ozdrims · September 11

@donamolar said:

@Ozdrims said:
Ok ,claim that experience provide same format of employment evidence as when you had during skills assessment
Form 1023 - notification of incorrect answers you can find it in immi under forms meron din yan

Pwedi ko parin po ba soya e attached kahit nasubmit kona po?

Pwede po attach under other documents

donamolar · September 11

@Ozdrims said:

@donamolar said:

@Ozdrims said:
Ok ,claim that experience provide same format of employment evidence as when you had during skills assessment
Form 1023 - notification of incorrect answers you can find it in immi under forms meron din yan

Pwedi ko parin po ba soya e attached kahit nasubmit kona po?

Pwede po attach under other documents

Thank you so much.

greenlight_13 · September 12

@mathilde9 said:

@greenlight_13 said:
Hello po. Ask ko lang po, if bumaba po yung points due to age, need po ba ei update lahat ng EOI na lodge ko?

Automatic na sya nagdeduct ng points.

Salamat po. ask ko lang din po if nagbago yung position due to promotion need po ba ei update yung EOI? worry ko kasi baka mapunta sa dulo ng list yung EOI ko.

mathilde9 · September 12

@greenlight_13 said:

@mathilde9 said:

@greenlight_13 said:
Hello po. Ask ko lang po, if bumaba po yung points due to age, need po ba ei update lahat ng EOI na lodge ko?

Automatic na sya nagdeduct ng points.

Salamat po. ask ko lang din po if nagbago yung position due to promotion need po ba ei update yung EOI? worry ko kasi baka mapunta sa dulo ng list yung EOI ko.

If change in job position kunware napromote at same company pa rin, pwede mo na hindi iupdate yung EOI eh kasi job title lang naman yun. Yung DoE mo sa EOI magcchange lang kapag may points na na-adjust. Sa nasabi mong scenario before, not applicable ito.