Skilled - Nominated or Sponsored (Provisional) (subclass 489) visa

lock_code2004 · February 2013

Hello po. If magpsponsor sa relative kailangan pa din mameet ang number of years sa work experience? Kasi volunteer work lang po ako not paid. Nurse po ako. Student ako ngayon dito sa au. Thanks po sa help.

visa 489 - regional relative sponsorship is a point tested visa..
so dapat ma meet mo pa rin ang EOI passmark 60pts.
kung wala kang work experience at meron kang ibang points to satisfy ung 60pts (50pts + 10 pts Visa 489 relative sponsorship), then walang problema..

Yukishih · February 2013

@lock_code2004 thank you po!

lock_code2004 · February 2013

@Yukishih - np..

just another note...

489 Family/relative sponsorship - your nominated occupation should be in SOL Sched 1

489 Regional Sponsorship -your nominated occupation should be in CSOL Sched 2 and of course in the State's SNOL (State Nomination Occupation List)

Yukishih · February 2013

Pakienlighten po ako. I will not get points sa degree na kukuhanin ko dito sa au dahil 1 year lang po di ba? Instead of 3 years maging 1 year na lang po ako mag aral kasi nacredit yung subjects ko sa atin.

lock_code2004 · February 2013

Pakienlighten po ako. I will not get points sa degree na kukuhanin ko dito sa au dahil 1 year lang po di ba? Instead of 3 years maging 1 year na lang po ako mag aral kasi nacredit yung subjects ko sa atin.

as far as i know, opo, hindi kayo makakuha ng points for AU education dahil 1 yr lang kayo nag-aral..

sonsi_03 · February 2013

@lock_code2004 - sir, sa tingin nyo po ba sa aking IELTS results na GT L=6.5 R=7.5 W=6.5 S=7.0 OBS=7.0 age 31, EE degree, 6 years working experience, papasok ba sa 189 ito or just to be safe mag-489 sate/regional provisional visa na lang muna? Although aware naman po ako sa downside ng 489 i just wanted to move faster with my wife and daughter from SG. Please advise sir thanks a lot.

lock_code2004 · February 2013

@sonsi_03

Your Estimated EOI points
Age 31- 30 pts
IELTS - 0
Work 6yrs - 10 pts
Educ - Degree 15pts or Diploma (10pts) depende po kung san kayo nag-aral/PRC license

So kung Degree po ang assessment sa educ qualification nyo, ang total nyo ay 55pts, you can apply for visa 190 (state sponsorship) +5 pts = 60 pts, para atleast PR na agad ang visa nyo..

Pero kung Diploma po ang result ng assessment nyo, total points will be 50 pts, so you should apply for Visa 489 (regional provisional) +10 pts = 60 pts

in both cases, automatic invitation naman po agad yan after ma approve ang SS or Regional Sponsorship, so you dont have to worry kahti na saktong 60pts ang total points nyo..

I suggest, immediately proceed with your EA assessment, while waiting for the assessment result, you can decide to re-take IELTS, para maging qualified sa visa 189..
but keep in mind, 31 na po kayo at magbabago na ang score nyo sa AGE pag lumampas na kayo ng 32...

Goodluck po!

sonsi_03 · February 2013

@sonsi_03

Your Estimated EOI points
Age 31- 30 pts
IELTS - 0
Work 6yrs - 10 pts
Educ - Degree 15pts or Diploma (10pts) depende po kung san kayo nag-aral/PRC license

So kung Degree po ang assessment sa educ qualification nyo, ang total nyo ay 55pts, you can apply for visa 190 (state sponsorship) +5 pts = 60 pts, para atleast PR na agad ang visa nyo..

Pero kung Diploma po ang result ng assessment nyo, total points will be 50 pts, so you should apply for Visa 489 (regional provisional) +10 pts = 60 pts

in both cases, automatic invitation naman po agad yan after ma approve ang SS or Regional Sponsorship, so you dont have to worry kahti na saktong 60pts ang total points nyo..

I suggest, immediately proceed with your EA assessment, while waiting for the assessment result, you can decide to re-take IELTS, para maging qualified sa visa 189..
but keep in mind, 31 na po kayo at magbabago na ang score nyo sa AGE pag lumampas na kayo ng 32...

Goodluck po!

Hi @lock_code2004

Hi Sir, thank you for your favourable response to my queries.

Oo nga po yan ang pinu-pursue ko, na magawa at matapos ko ang CER at makapagpasa ng CDR as soon as possible so i'm studying all the resources that I have para sa positive results ng assessment, sa tingin mo sir ganito kasi medyo may hesitations ako sa career history ko:

kapag ganito ba (medyo job hopper ako in the last few years, i eloborate ko lang po ang job experiences ko.)

1. July 2005- Sept. 2007 - engineering technician (solar power company - semiconductor)
2. Jan 2008- Jan 2009 - assistant engineer - planning and design (electrical dept.)
3. Feb 2009 - June 2010 - automation engineer (vessel switchboard testing/modifications/retrofitting/commisioning team).
4. July 2010-Nov 2010 - contracts engineer (fire alarm systems) which i don't plan to put this in CER.

lastly, 5. Nov 2010 - present - M&E Engineer (a pharmaceutical company, facilities maintenance particularly sa mga lighting, low voltages equipment, genset and anything about electrical sa buong planta.)

It's a little bit here and there. So sa opinion mo, Sir ano kaya ang possible feedback ng EA sa ganitong career track? Salamat po.

lock_code2004 · February 2013

@sonsi_03 - okay lang yan.. just make sure that your documents (COE+Job description) should match ung ANSZCO code job description...

- google mo po un AnSZCO code.. and make sure na malapit dun ang mga JDs mo..
- read EA migration booklet
- prepare your career episodes to demonstrate your skills
- punta po kayo sa thread ng EA.. marami din inputs dun..

sonsi_03 · February 2013

Hi @lock_code2004,

Thanks, sir for the infos. Sa Adamson po ako grad, section 2. There's a lot of things to research talaga para makapag prepare. Sana maging worth it lahat ang efforts para sa magandang kinabukasan ng family. Goodluck po sa mga fellow pinoys na aspiring makapag-migrate sa down under.

katieb · March 2013

Hi @lock_code2004

Sir, do you think po I should try na yung visa 489 family sponsored?
-accountant. Board passer.
-section 1 school, as per list found somewhere in this site
-age 27
-ielts 7
-2 yrs work exp as financial analyst
-relatives in gold coast Qld

Iniisip ko po kasi if I have to wait na magka 3 yrs work exp, then apply for visa 189, or try ko na in a few months yung family sponsored... yung sa 189 po kasi parang mababa yung points khit wait ko maka 3yrs ako..

Thanks in advance for any input.

lock_code2004 · March 2013

Hi @lock_code2004

Sir, do you think po I should try na yung visa 489 family sponsored?
-accountant. Board passer.
-section 1 school, as per list found somewhere in this site
-age 27
-ielts 7
-2 yrs work exp as financial analyst
-relatives in gold coast Qld

Iniisip ko po kasi if I have to wait na magka 3 yrs work exp, then apply for visa 189, or try ko na in a few months yung family sponsored... yung sa 189 po kasi parang mababa yung points khit wait ko maka 3yrs ako..

Thanks in advance for any input.

Hi, your estimated EOI points will be:

Age - 30pts
IELTS -10pts
Educ - 15pts
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TOTAL-55pts
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a) if you apply for visa 489 Relative Sponsored, you will get additional 10 pts, which will make your total 65 pts..which is okay...you can proceed with your application, but this is a regional/designated area and provisional/temporary visa valid for 4 years..

b) Or, you can apply for state sponsorship visa 190, SS will give you 5 points, which will make your total EOI =60pts..once SS is approved, that will be an automatic visa invitation kasi SS nga.. plus Visa 190 is a PR visa.. your only restriction is you need to live on the sponsoring state for 2 years..

c) or proceed with your Skills assessment muna, baka nmn by that time na matapos ang assesssment mo eh 3 years na, so pasok kana sa visa 189.

So, kung okay na lahat as of today, I would go for option B.

katieb · March 2013

Ganun po ba.. Dati po kc nagresemarch na yung tito ko about SS, kaso parang 5yrs po ang minimum work exp na nirerequire? Anyway po, hindi ako sure kung kasama nga ang Gold coast sa mga designated areas for relative sponsorship. Sa immi.gov.au kc Brisbane lang ang exception sa QLD,pero sa ibang websites, di daw po pwede ang Gold coast? 4215 po yung postcode sa place ng mga relatives ko..

lock_code2004 · March 2013

@katieb - the SS requirements might have changed now.. so better check the requirement of that state regarding minimum work exp requirements..

kelan ka mag 3 years sa work mo? kung malapit na, i suggest, i ready mo na lahat ng documents/IELTS.. para pag saktong 3 yrs kana, proceed with assessment.. just like i mentioned Option C.

pagcomplete mo na ang docs at IELTS, madali ng magdecide on what to do next..

Yukishih · March 2013

Question po. Pano po if hindi IELTS ang kinuha? OET po puede po ba yun?

Isyut · March 2013

Magandang Araw po sa lahat.

Share ko lang yung situation ko. 4x na po ako nag ielts at di ko pa rin naabot ang band 7 sa lahat. Medyo na didiscourage na ako sa capability ko sa ielts. I badly needed sana the 10pts sa ielts dahil kapos ang points ko. Ang computation ko as follows.

age (39) - 25 pts
qualifications assessed by ACS as comparable to AQF Associate Degree - 10pts
ielts - 0
Work exp - 10pts
Total = 45pts lang at submitted na yung EOI ko since 3/11/2013
SA SS got refused due to hindi ako umabot sa passmark na 60pts sa EOI.

Yung work exp points ko I expected 15pts po sana dahil ACS calculated as follows:

Emp 1 1995 to 2001 - not assessed bec of insufficient doc
Emp 2 01/2002 - 4/2008 - assessed as 6.3 yrs
Emp 3 2008 - 2009 - not assessed bec of insufficient doc
Emp 4 2009 - 2010 - not assessed bec of insufficient doc
Emp 5 9/2010 - 10/2011 - assessed as 1.1yrs
Emp 6 10/2011 - present - assessed as 10monts (since time nang appl ko to ACS was Oct 2012.

question ko po: Since yung last Emp 6 ko is still going now meron po bang possibility na aangat pa sa 15pts ang work exp ko? or kailangan po ba ipa re-validate sa ACS ulit?

Am I right to say, na kaya 10pts lang inallocate sa EOI sa work exp ko dahil nag exceed sa "last 10yrs ang employment record ko'?

After po kasi ma clear ko ang work exp points expectation ko balak ko sana mag apply nalang nang 489, kahit na provisional lang sya. Na didiscourage napo kasi ako sa ielts ko at malaki na ang gastos sa ielts.

Pag kasi mag 15pts ang work exp ko mag total ako nang 50pts + 10pts(489 States Sponsor) = 60pts at baka ma invite pa sa 489.

Hope anyone can advise po on my situtation.

salamat sa lahat. God Bless us all.

lock_code2004 · March 2013

@Isyut -
- kung hindi ka lumipat sa work mo since na-assess ng ACS, at nag-increase na ang work experience mo at pwede ka ng mag-claim ng additional points, i believe hindi mo na kialangan ipa-reassess yun.. just get an updated COE+JD, additiona proof.. and edit your EOI..

- update your EOI, with your total work experience (Now),..
- ang points for employment is awarded at the TIME of invitation ng visa.. pag nakgaCO kana, provide mo ang updated COE+JD+payslip.. and your good to go..
-one of the bases lang ang results ng assessment (kung relevant or not)..
- so kagaya ng sinabi mo, continuous ang employment mo, so pwede kana magclaim ng 8 yrs which is equivalent to 15pts..

my opinion..

Isyut · March 2013

Lock_code2004 salamat sa mga inputs mo
Yun din iniisip ko na baka nga next month mag total yung work exp ko to 8yrs. Nag lapsed kasi yung Emp 2 ko sa "previous 10yrs" as required nila.

Baka mag 489 nalang ako tapos enroute to 887 kun sakali. Wala talaga akong swerte sa ielts na yan :-(

civdlcrz · March 2013

Hello everyone!!.Sana noon ko pa nabasa thread na 2..We paid a migration agent when my husband and I applied for a visa, I as the primary applicant. My agent told me I scored 65pts for SC 489 and 60pts for SC 190 & 189. So we chose to lodge SC 489 to ensure that the visa will be granted. Then arghhh! Later on I realized that my agent didn't claim points for partner skills, kumpleto docs ni hubby including ielts..Although the visa was granted, nakakapanghinayang sana PR visa na agad to avoid the hassle of applying a PR visa after 2 yrs..lalo na automatic na pala invites for 190 when SS is approved. But we are still so thankful syempre.

I highly advise to really review & weigh your options well. Kami kasi inasa na lahat sa agent since we both are busy with our jobs abroad.

Ay my question po pala ko, are SC 489 visa holders no longer required to register to CFO? that is if I understood it right from their site, di kasi sila nagrereply s email ko..Hehe...thanks everyone!!

jennyt · March 2013

hi po ask ko if subclass 489 pwede ba magregister s centrelink as unemployed?

jedianiki · March 2013

Hello... question po, gaano po katagal usually bago maapprove ang state sponsorship request? Nag create na po kasi ako ng eoi with 489 relative sponsored last sunday, pero pwede din po ako for state sponsorship saktong 60 pts. Software Engineer po nominated skill ko and I'm eyeing for NSW. Thanks sa mga sasagot!

lock_code2004 · March 2013

@jedianiki - are you saying, currently meron kang EOI 55pts + 5 pts for either (State Sponsorship Visa 190 or relative sponsor visa 489)?

kung tama ang intindi ko sa case mo, mas okay na mag-aply ng SS (visa 190), kasi permanent visa na yun, compared sa visa 489 regional and temporary...

if you are looking for NSW, make sure na nasa State list nila ang occupation mo, visit the NSW SS Application thread, nandun lahat ang mga nag-apply... as of today, mukhang 3-4months ang application process for NSW..

goodluck..

jedianiki · March 2013

hi @lock_code2004, tama po kayo, pwede po ako sa dalawa... sa Queensland po yung kuya ko, kaso medyo nag-aalangan ako kasi parang wala akong makukuhang work dun. Karamihan po kasi ng work para sa skill ko ay nasa Sydney kaya na-consider ko rin si NSW SS. Yun nga lang di ko po alam kung aabot before July 1 kung 3 months waiting time.. Thanks po sa info!

lock_code2004 · March 2013

@jedianiki - mukhang matagal din nmn pareho ang invitation ng visa 489 (relative sponsor) or ng visa 190 (NSW SS)...

- ang importante kasi, makaprocess ka na ng visa bago mag july1 change
- kung okay lang sayo na visa 489 temporary, then go for it kahit na sa queensland
- kas meron ka naman pala na pwede magsupport sayo dun while looking for work..

-kung mag-apply ka nmn ng visa 190 NSW SS, medyo matagal pa ang processing
- at baka nga hindi ka nmn umabot before july1
- pero kung hindi ka nmn nagmamadali, mas magandang option ito kasi nga visa 190 is PR visa..

or submit both, tingnan mo kung alin ang maunang mag-invite, may bayad nga lang yata ang NSW SS..

jedianiki · March 2013

hi @lock_code2004,

actually ok lang din po sa akin ang 489, main concern ko lang po kasi ay yung nakalagay sa skillselect na "You must live and work in a designated area". Hindi ko po sure kung pwede po ako mag-work sa NSW specifically sa Sydney if ever 489 ang visa ko dahil sa QLD po yung kuya ko. Medyo vague po kasi yung "designated area".

Kung sure naman po na pwede, ok na po sa akin yung 489 for the meantime tas apply for PR after 2 years via 887. Medyo worried lang po kasi na baka wala akong makitang job for me sa QLD (like my sister-in-law), puro sa NSW po job posts kaya na-consider ko rin si 190 + may PR advantage pa sya. Yun nga lang po mahirap ang walang kamag-anak at kakilala lalo foreign land.

lock_code2004 · March 2013

@jedianiki - malinaw ang definition ng "designated area" sa website ng DIAC.. may mga post code sila na nakadefine dun...

http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/designated-areas.htm

definitely, kung QLD ang nagsponsor syo, sa QLD ka lang pwedeng tumira/magtrabaho (based on the DIAC definition).. at kung sa QLD, may area ka pa na dapat dun nakatira ang relative sponsor mo.. check nga that website.. kung hindi sya nakatira dun, hindi rin sya pwede mag-sponsor syo..

your decision will be based on the factors i mentioned:
- finding a job
- processing time (considering Jul 1 new program year)

jennyt · March 2013

hi, i am a holder of 489 visa, can i use the online form skilled provisional - subsequent entrant visa for adding dependents?

jedianiki · March 2013

thanks @lock_code2004 for the insights!

LokiJr · March 2013

@Santi, nursing is a lucrative job in Australia...well paid but not overworked

I say go for it hehe...magpaIELTS muna kamo wife niyo

dhoncarlo · March 2013

Hello Po sa lahat.

I would like to clarify. I am a Radiologic Techologis with 5 years experience here in the Pinas. I am really confuse if I still need to study first to upgrade my course you will just go ahead and apply for skilled immigrant. Sana mai makatulong.