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annulment on going - can I migrate with my kid? do i need his father's consent?

raiden14raiden14 SydneyPosts: 704Member
edited July 2014 in Family and Partner Visas
Not sure if we have already topic regarding this, kid is 7 yrs old. Annulment is on going, the other party is actually trying to win back the other party. Does the mom still need a signed consent from the father?

Visa Grant - Dec 22, 2015

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  • icebreaker1928icebreaker1928 Sydney
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    yes... hindi pa sila annul so may right pa ang tatay nyan... kahit ata annul na may right pa rin ang ama sa bata...
  • raiden14raiden14 Sydney
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    so pag walang papers from the father, giving permission, nde pwedeng maisama ang bata?
    actually this is not my case, its for a friend.she was insisting that she can bring her kid, even when the annulment is on going.

    Visa Grant - Dec 22, 2015

  • lock_code2004lock_code2004 Perth
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    @raiden14 - not just that...
    kailangan din ng proof/documentations kung bakit hindi isasama ang spouse... kailangn din ng signature/affidavit nya na hindi tlaga sya kasama..

    Sep 24, 2011 - IELTS (L-8 R-8 W-8 S-7.5 : OBS-8)
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    May 8, 2012 - Lodged GSM 175 online application | June 4, 2012 - CO Allocated
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  • icebreaker1928icebreaker1928 Sydney
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    @raiden14 as far as I know yes, kelangan may pirma ng tatay... mas maganda siguro sa abugado magtanong para sure.
  • sheryl0126sheryl0126 Melbourne
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    edited May 2013
    @raiden14 - Yes need ng consent. You can create a statutory declaration, stating that the father is allowing the kid to stay permanently with the mother in Australia. For my case, the stat dec was signed by the father and witnessed by the lawyer/notary public.. Annulled na ko, pero walang court decision ng custody ng child kaya stat dec ang ginawa ko as consent ng father nya.. Na-apruv naman ang visa namin kasama ng kid ko.. :)
  • raiden14raiden14 Sydney
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    edited May 2013
    @sheryl0126 - regardless of age? ano yun sis hinintay mo ba matapos yung annulment?
    Is there a way for DIAC to check if the document is authentic? Di ba kasi dito sa pinas ang dali mag produce ng notarized statement?

    Visa Grant - Dec 22, 2015

  • sheryl0126sheryl0126 Melbourne
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    edited May 2013
    @raiden14 - yes regardless ng age. sa pinas lng cguro applicable ung 7 yrs old and below, sa mother ang laging custody ng bata.. For my case kc tapos na ung annulment nung ngaaply ako, pero I think pde na rin mgapply kahit ongoing ang annulment basta may consent ng father ng child ung pagmigrate ng bata.. Ung reason kung baket nde kasama ung father sa application, pede nyang iprovide ung documents nung ngfile sya ng annullment.. In any case, hihingan naman sya ng case officer ng additional documents if nde pa sufficient ung na-provide nyang papers.
    With regards sa authentication, usually nde naman ngcheck ang DIAC, pero syempre pag ngapply tau make sure naman na nde fake ung papers na isubsubmit natin para nde na mgkaproblema in future.. Sa mga notarised, certified true copy ang requirement lagi ng DIAC is meron contact details ng ngauthenticate, who knows baka ngra-ramdom calling pala cla for verification. ;P
  • sheryl0126sheryl0126 Melbourne
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    edited May 2013
    @raiden14 - yes regardless ng age. sa pinas lng cguro applicable ung 7 yrs old and below, sa mother ang laging custody ng bata.. For my case kc tapos na ung annulment nung ngaaply ako, pero I think pde na rin mgapply kahit ongoing ang annulment basta may consent ng father ng child ung pagmigrate ng bata.. Ung reason kung baket nde kasama ung father sa application, pede nyang iprovide ung documents nung ngfile sya ng annullment.. In any case, hihingan naman sya ng case officer ng additional documents if nde pa sufficient ung na-provide nyang papers.
    With regards sa authentication, usually nde naman ngcheck ang DIAC, pero syempre pag ngapply tau make sure naman na nde fake ung papers na isubsubmit natin para nde na mgkaproblema in future.. Sa mga notarised, certified true copy ang requirement lagi ng DIAC is meron contact details ng ngauthenticate, who knows baka ngra-ramdom calling pala cla for verification. ;P
  • raiden14raiden14 Sydney
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    thanks for the info @sheryl0126

    Visa Grant - Dec 22, 2015

  • li_i_renli_i_ren North Ryde
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    What if hindi annulled? My flatmate before in nz separated lng sila ng hubby nya also no paperworks to show they were separated..naka aalis naman sila ng pinas. I think sinabi nya they were abandoned by the father and d na nila alam location. P.r. Na sila ngayon in nz.
  • sheryl0126sheryl0126 Melbourne
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    edited June 2013
    @li_i_ren - I think depende na rin cguro if valid and realistic ang reason ng separation na i-provide mo sa application and depende na rin cguro sa CO na ma-aasign at mgreview ng papers. Meron cgurong strict meron ding nde. Pero mas safe na ung meron kang ma-provide kahit stat dec man lng especially now na pamahal ng pamahal ang application fee. As much as possible, we should try avoiding risks kc nde biro ung ibabayad natin..
  • mandandmandand Melbourne
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    sa CFO seminar, we were told as long as kasama ng bata ang isang parent, no need for consent from the other parent.

    June 13 2012 - ACS application, July 21 20012 - IELTS exam, July 24 2012 - ACS result suitable, Aug 3 2012 - IELTS result, my EOI submitted, Aug 24 2012 - hubby ACS application, Sep 1 2012 - hubby IELTS exam, Sep 14 2012 - hubby IELTS result, Sep 24 2012 - hubby ACS result, hubby EOI submitted, Oct 1 2012 - 189 visa invitation (hubby primary), application lodged, Oct 26 - CO allocated - Adelaide GSM Team 7
    Nov 7 - Visa grant. June 13 2013 - Landed, July 18 - Job Offer . To God be the Glory!

  • lock_code2004lock_code2004 Perth
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    sa CFO seminar, we were told as long as kasama ng bata ang isang parent, no need for consent from the other parent.
    I think that is just for travel purposes, as required by our immi and dswd..
    Pero as per DiAC's guidelines, kailangn ng consent ng other parent..
    Especially kung hnid ksma sa visa grant yung other parent..

    That is what I know, correct me if this is wrong..

    Sep 24, 2011 - IELTS (L-8 R-8 W-8 S-7.5 : OBS-8)
    Jan 04, 2012 - EA application submitted | Feb 23, 2012 - EA assessment result (IE ANZSCO 233511)
    May 8, 2012 - Lodged GSM 175 online application | June 4, 2012 - CO Allocated
    June 22, 2012 - Medicals Finalized | Aug 30, 2012 - PCCs Completed (PH, UAE, USA)
    Sep 3, 2012 - Visa Granted (IED Jun 11, 2013) Thank You Lord!
    Oct 16-28, 2012 - Initial Entry Completed - Sydney
    July 28, 2013 - Final move to Perth
    Sep 9, 2013 - Started work with the same company i worked for in UAE/USA
    Oct 28, 2013 - Moved to another company.. ;)

  • mandandmandand Melbourne
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    ahh..sa visa application. i think need ng consent from the other parent.

    June 13 2012 - ACS application, July 21 20012 - IELTS exam, July 24 2012 - ACS result suitable, Aug 3 2012 - IELTS result, my EOI submitted, Aug 24 2012 - hubby ACS application, Sep 1 2012 - hubby IELTS exam, Sep 14 2012 - hubby IELTS result, Sep 24 2012 - hubby ACS result, hubby EOI submitted, Oct 1 2012 - 189 visa invitation (hubby primary), application lodged, Oct 26 - CO allocated - Adelaide GSM Team 7
    Nov 7 - Visa grant. June 13 2013 - Landed, July 18 - Job Offer . To God be the Glory!

  • ronarona Dubai
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    hi! newbie po ako dito at nag gather ng docs for application. ask ko lang po regarding dun sa child ko. he is born out of wedlock but gamit nya yung surname ng tatay nya. nakalagay din dun sa BC un name ng tatay nya. enough na ba un BC paramaisama ko sya sa applic?

    thanks po.
  • bashangbashang Sydney
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    @sheryl0126 - I got my annulment decision last year and was granted the custody but with visitation rights of the father, do you think I will still need a statutory declaration? honestly, I don't have a good relationship with the father, it will be a very big challenge for me to obtain a consent/statutory declaration from him.

    Please advise @sheryl0126 or has experienced the same situation, kindly share. TIA

    Primary Applicant: Hubby (261313 Software Engineer)

    06/28/2013 - ACS Skills assessment submission
    10/04/2013 - Suitable skills assessment (bachelors degree, 5 yrs exp)
    11/13/2013 - IELTS Results (Speaking remarked from 6.5 to 7 :D) - L- 9, R-8.5, W-7, S-7, OBS-8
    11/13/2013 - Submitted EOI with 65pts for subclass 189
    11/14/2013 - Applied Vic SS with 70pts
    11/18/2013 - Received invitation for Subclass 189
    11/18/2013 - Lodged Visa 189
    11/18/2013 - Uploaded required documents
    11/28/2013 - Uploaded form 80
    11/29/2013 - SG COC and NBI Clearance application
    12/03/2013 - CO allocated (GSM Adelaide, Team 7, AR)
    12/07/2013 - Our daughter's medical (Nationwide Health Sys)
    12/14/2013 - Medical appointment (Point Medical Grp Paragon)
    12/17/2013 - Received NBI Clearance and uploaded :)
    12/20/2013 - Collected SG COC and uploaded
    12/20/2013 - VISA GRANTED (IED Dec 9, 2014)

  • bashangbashang Sydney
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    sir @lock_code2004 can you advise if statutory declaration will still be needed if I was granted the custody but with visitation rights of the father?

    Primary Applicant: Hubby (261313 Software Engineer)

    06/28/2013 - ACS Skills assessment submission
    10/04/2013 - Suitable skills assessment (bachelors degree, 5 yrs exp)
    11/13/2013 - IELTS Results (Speaking remarked from 6.5 to 7 :D) - L- 9, R-8.5, W-7, S-7, OBS-8
    11/13/2013 - Submitted EOI with 65pts for subclass 189
    11/14/2013 - Applied Vic SS with 70pts
    11/18/2013 - Received invitation for Subclass 189
    11/18/2013 - Lodged Visa 189
    11/18/2013 - Uploaded required documents
    11/28/2013 - Uploaded form 80
    11/29/2013 - SG COC and NBI Clearance application
    12/03/2013 - CO allocated (GSM Adelaide, Team 7, AR)
    12/07/2013 - Our daughter's medical (Nationwide Health Sys)
    12/14/2013 - Medical appointment (Point Medical Grp Paragon)
    12/17/2013 - Received NBI Clearance and uploaded :)
    12/20/2013 - Collected SG COC and uploaded
    12/20/2013 - VISA GRANTED (IED Dec 9, 2014)

  • lock_code2004lock_code2004 Perth
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    @bashang - hi eto po ang nakalagay sa website

    http://www.immi.gov.au/skills/skillselect/index/including-family-members/

    Custody

    Australia must fulfil its international obligations in relation to the prevention of child abduction.

    If your application includes a child under 18 years of age and that child’s other parent (or any other person with a legal right to decide where the child lives) is not also migrating, you must prove you have the right to move the child.

    Acceptable forms of proof are certified copies of:
    -an overseas court order giving you sole custody of the child
    - a statutory declaration, signed by the child’s other parent (or other person with a legal right to decide where the child lives), that allows you to take the child to Australia
    - a death certificate for the other parent
    - an Australian court order giving you the sole right to decide where the child should live.

    ------------------------

    so i think dun po kayo sa first requirement papasok.. kung meron kayong court order ng sole custody ng bata.. pwede na po yan based dito..

    Sep 24, 2011 - IELTS (L-8 R-8 W-8 S-7.5 : OBS-8)
    Jan 04, 2012 - EA application submitted | Feb 23, 2012 - EA assessment result (IE ANZSCO 233511)
    May 8, 2012 - Lodged GSM 175 online application | June 4, 2012 - CO Allocated
    June 22, 2012 - Medicals Finalized | Aug 30, 2012 - PCCs Completed (PH, UAE, USA)
    Sep 3, 2012 - Visa Granted (IED Jun 11, 2013) Thank You Lord!
    Oct 16-28, 2012 - Initial Entry Completed - Sydney
    July 28, 2013 - Final move to Perth
    Sep 9, 2013 - Started work with the same company i worked for in UAE/USA
    Oct 28, 2013 - Moved to another company.. ;)

  • bashangbashang Sydney
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    Joined: Jul 02, 2013
    thank you so much po for the response sir @lock_code2004 :)

    Primary Applicant: Hubby (261313 Software Engineer)

    06/28/2013 - ACS Skills assessment submission
    10/04/2013 - Suitable skills assessment (bachelors degree, 5 yrs exp)
    11/13/2013 - IELTS Results (Speaking remarked from 6.5 to 7 :D) - L- 9, R-8.5, W-7, S-7, OBS-8
    11/13/2013 - Submitted EOI with 65pts for subclass 189
    11/14/2013 - Applied Vic SS with 70pts
    11/18/2013 - Received invitation for Subclass 189
    11/18/2013 - Lodged Visa 189
    11/18/2013 - Uploaded required documents
    11/28/2013 - Uploaded form 80
    11/29/2013 - SG COC and NBI Clearance application
    12/03/2013 - CO allocated (GSM Adelaide, Team 7, AR)
    12/07/2013 - Our daughter's medical (Nationwide Health Sys)
    12/14/2013 - Medical appointment (Point Medical Grp Paragon)
    12/17/2013 - Received NBI Clearance and uploaded :)
    12/20/2013 - Collected SG COC and uploaded
    12/20/2013 - VISA GRANTED (IED Dec 9, 2014)

  • netzkeenetnetzkeenet Sydney
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    Joined: Mar 30, 2014
    Hello po just want to ask do I need consent from father to bring my child kng not married but naka apelido sa kanya? Thankss!!!

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    01.05.14 - Approved SS SA and Invited to Apply for 190
    02.06.14 - Lodged visa application 190 and uploaded docs
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  • joyfuljoyful Posts: 61Member
    Joined: Mar 21, 2014
    @netzkeenet yes sis. There is a form that needs to be signed by the other parent that he/she is allowing the child to migrate to Australia. Need also ng ID nya such as passport/birth cert/drivers license. I submitted all those 3 IDS.
  • netzkeenetnetzkeenet Sydney
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    Joined: Mar 30, 2014
    @joyful kahit nde po married kailangan? Hiningi po ba ng co sa iyo or ni front load mo na sa docs? Naglodge na kasi ako and nde ako kumuha ng consent.

    26.05.12 - IELTS Academic (L-8.5, R-7, S-7, W-7, OBS-7.5)
    31.05.13 to 25.08.13 - Bridging Program for Nurses
    04.09.13 - Registered with AHPRA
    12.12.13 - Lodged Skills assessment ANMAC
    17.03.14 - Positive skills assessment (Registered Nurse: Medical)
    29.03.14 - Lodged SS SA and EOI
    07.04.14 - NBI clearance
    01.05.14 - Approved SS SA and Invited to Apply for 190
    02.06.14 - Lodged visa application 190 and uploaded docs
    10.06.14 - Medicals at Nationwide
    15.09.14 - Direct Grant 190 visa (IED: June 10, 2015)
    22.10.14 - Touchdown Adelaide

    ~whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it and it will be yours~

  • netzkeenetnetzkeenet Sydney
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    Joined: Mar 30, 2014
    @raiden14 kamusta po case ng friend mo? Kumuha pa po ng consent from father?

    26.05.12 - IELTS Academic (L-8.5, R-7, S-7, W-7, OBS-7.5)
    31.05.13 to 25.08.13 - Bridging Program for Nurses
    04.09.13 - Registered with AHPRA
    12.12.13 - Lodged Skills assessment ANMAC
    17.03.14 - Positive skills assessment (Registered Nurse: Medical)
    29.03.14 - Lodged SS SA and EOI
    07.04.14 - NBI clearance
    01.05.14 - Approved SS SA and Invited to Apply for 190
    02.06.14 - Lodged visa application 190 and uploaded docs
    10.06.14 - Medicals at Nationwide
    15.09.14 - Direct Grant 190 visa (IED: June 10, 2015)
    22.10.14 - Touchdown Adelaide

    ~whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it and it will be yours~

  • raiden14raiden14 Sydney
    Posts: 704Member
    Joined: Feb 27, 2013
    @netzkeenet - wait muna sya ng annulment decision, tagal nga eh.

    Visa Grant - Dec 22, 2015

  • netzkeenetnetzkeenet Sydney
    Posts: 448Member
    Joined: Mar 30, 2014
    @raiden14 di pa ba sya nakapaglodge?

    26.05.12 - IELTS Academic (L-8.5, R-7, S-7, W-7, OBS-7.5)
    31.05.13 to 25.08.13 - Bridging Program for Nurses
    04.09.13 - Registered with AHPRA
    12.12.13 - Lodged Skills assessment ANMAC
    17.03.14 - Positive skills assessment (Registered Nurse: Medical)
    29.03.14 - Lodged SS SA and EOI
    07.04.14 - NBI clearance
    01.05.14 - Approved SS SA and Invited to Apply for 190
    02.06.14 - Lodged visa application 190 and uploaded docs
    10.06.14 - Medicals at Nationwide
    15.09.14 - Direct Grant 190 visa (IED: June 10, 2015)
    22.10.14 - Touchdown Adelaide

    ~whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it and it will be yours~

  • raiden14raiden14 Sydney
    Posts: 704Member
    Joined: Feb 27, 2013
    nope di pa po. kase ayaw bumitaw ng ex hubby.

    Visa Grant - Dec 22, 2015

  • joyfuljoyful Posts: 61Member
    Joined: Mar 21, 2014
    @netzkeenet Your case officer will ask for it if needed. May ibang cases na di hiningi kung naka apeido yung bata sa ina. God bless.
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