What if gusto nang maghanap ng bagong employer?

prettyme1026 · June 2013

Need some advice on these scenarios:

My husband is in Perth with 457 visa valid for 4 years:

Gusto na nyang lumipat ng employer, dahil grabe na ung kanilang employer, More than a year na nyang tinitiis ung almost everyday na he's working overtime without pay. Minsan papasukin pa cla ng weekends wlang bayad. Pero ang hindi na nya kayang tiisin ung paswelduhin cla 2 times a month. Meaning ang sweldo nila naging half nalang a month. Hayst.

Kung lilipat ba cya ng bagong employer na pwedeng mag sponsor sa kanya, magprovide pa cya ulit ng another sets of requirements? like magpapasa ba cya ulit ng english profiency? Na exempt kc cya sa IELTS.

Cno ba unang kocontakin namin about his situation, ang immi or fairwork? thanks a lot for anyone soonest response....

JCsantos · June 2013

from what i know if he can find another employer to sponsor him within 28 days from resigning ... antayin nyo yung bagong ruling on 457 the goverment is going to extend it to 90days ..

nfronda · June 2013

@prettyme1026.. U can report his employer to DIAC.. Ung brother q ay my calling card ng isang DIAC officer telling him that he can contact him anytym to report any discrepancies on his work. That guy is really for 457 visa holders, maya pagdating q ng haws kunin q ung contact details and send q sau..

lock_code2004 · June 2013

@prettyme1026 = sorry to hear about that... im sure our more expert 457 visa holders can give their relevant input.

but here is what i know..
- pwede sya lumipat, assuming same occupation, at willing mag sponsor ang new company
- parang transfer lang ang visa to new company..

please read more details here... open tab> OBLIGATION > click "Rights and obligations of a subclass 457 visa"

http://www.immi.gov.au/skills/skillselect/index/visas/subclass-457/

Changing your employer or occupation in Australia

If you want to change your employer or occupation you are not required to apply for a new visa (unless your visa is close to expiry).
However, before you can start working for a new employer or in a new occupation, you must be nominated by your proposed new employer and have that nomination approved first.

JCsantos · June 2013

kung gusto nyo mag reklamo ... check http://www.fairwork.gov.au to see what his rights is

prettyme1026 · June 2013

thanks s lahat ng inputs, oo nakakawindang na talaga, another thing is ung kanilang super eh, 400 au lang ang pinasok...o diba? i think 3k or more na dapat un eh, nagtanong cla ang sabi ba naman sa kanila eh, magsasara nalang daw cla kung ipipilit ung super na yan. Ang gusto nilng mangyari is to wait kung kelan nalang bayaran. Nakakaawa considering ung effort nila eh hindi naman worth ng employer. Tiniis na lang mister ko ung OT na yan, na wlang bayad just to finish his 2 year contract. Wait ko na rin yang 90 days na yan.

@nfronda, yes 457 visa cya, thanks i'll wait for that.

nfronda · June 2013

@prettyme1026..I ask my brother at unluckily ibngay nya ang contact card sa kakilala naming pinoy d2 na my prob din sa employer nya.. Tatanungin q na lg xa pag magkita kmi.. And I will pm to u straight away..

Nadine · June 2013

Need some advice on these scenarios:

My husband is in Perth with 457 visa valid for 4 years:

Gusto na nyang lumipat ng employer, dahil grabe na ung kanilang employer, More than a year na nyang tinitiis ung almost everyday na he's working overtime without pay. Minsan papasukin pa cla ng weekends wlang bayad. Pero ang hindi na nya kayang tiisin ung paswelduhin cla 2 times a month. Meaning ang sweldo nila naging half nalang a month. Hayst.

Kung lilipat ba cya ng bagong employer na pwedeng mag sponsor sa kanya, magprovide pa cya ulit ng another sets of requirements? like magpapasa ba cya ulit ng english profiency? Na exempt kc cya sa IELTS.

Cno ba unang kocontakin namin about his situation, ang immi or fairwork? thanks a lot for anyone soonest response....

Oh, wow... Sis, 457 ako and I'm based in Brisbane.

Una po, tanong ko lang po. Ano po work ni hubby niyo? The reason I asked is so we can actually assess the chances of getting a new employer. Kasi, the first thing to do sa sitwasyon niya ngayon is to get a new employer. AND fast. Really, it is NEVER allowed to work unpaid, nor is it ever legal to work beyond what the contract states.

But we can look at it in a postive way. The fact that he has local experience for almost a year, will not hurt him at all. Makakatulong eto para makahanap siya ng panibagong employer. It will give him the edge from all the others. Kung offshore nga natanggap siya sa trabaho, ngayon pa na may experience na siya. This is certainly not a hopeless situation, one of those challenges lang, ika nga.

Things to do:

1. Hanap new employer. Urgently. The new employer though must be able to take over the nomination. Ang new job niya dapat is pareho lang, or the same ANZSCO. Kasi yun ang nakasaad dun sa 457 visa niya. If may change, he has to apply for a new visa and cancel the old one.
2. Hindi na po kailangan ng new IELTS. Parang change-over lang to a new employer.
3. Sis, this is reportable. This should be filed in writing to both DIAC and Fair Work Ombudsman Australia. In QLD, may anti-discrimination agency eh. I'm not sure about Perth, pero baka meron din. This to me is discriminatory. Actually, report this to as many people as you can. The thing is, the more you make noise, the more you send a message. Also, you can actually file a case. Talk to a solicitor. By law, you are entitled to your superannuation, paid overtime and cannot be forced to work beyond a number of hours. If it were me, I will include moral damages pa.

But you can't do this Sis if walang new employer. So first things first, get a new employer. I know it's probably frustrating. Kaya nga if may chance to file action, mas ok kung they will award compensation for all these. Don't stop at just getting new employer. Work to recover what is rightfully yours.

PM mo sakin email mo and I'll send you po a copy of FairWork Statement. Lahat ng workers meron dapat nito eh. Kahit hindi 457. But in case wala kayo, send ko. Merong hotline and email add/website written and all rights and entitlements.

Goodluck po, balitaan niyo kami. At wag mawawalan ng pag-asa.

TotoyOZresident · June 2013

Need some advice on these scenarios:

My husband is in Perth with 457 visa valid for 4 years:

Gusto na nyang lumipat ng employer, dahil grabe na ung kanilang employer, More than a year na nyang tinitiis ung almost everyday na he's working overtime without pay. Minsan papasukin pa cla ng weekends wlang bayad. Pero ang hindi na nya kayang tiisin ung paswelduhin cla 2 times a month. Meaning ang sweldo nila naging half nalang a month. Hayst.

Kung lilipat ba cya ng bagong employer na pwedeng mag sponsor sa kanya, magprovide pa cya ulit ng another sets of requirements? like magpapasa ba cya ulit ng english profiency? Na exempt kc cya sa IELTS.

Cno ba unang kocontakin namin about his situation, ang immi or fairwork? thanks a lot for anyone soonest response....

Nakakalungkot man isipin may mga 457 visa holder ay nakakaranahas ng mga ganitong sitwasyon kahit sa ibang lahi may mga katulad din na kwento.

Kung lilipat sya hindi na nya kailangan mag renew ng 457 working visa lalot 4 years ang valid ng visa nya. Ang mag iiba lang ay ang documents ng sponsor. Kung willing na sponsor sya ng company na lilipatan nya.

Kung plano nya lumipat kailangan confidential ang pag apply nya sa ibang company. Magsimula na sya maghanap sa mga job site.

Kung mag rereklamo sya dapat handa din sya umalis expected nya dapat na ite-terminate sya afte nakapg reklamo sya. Kaya kung mag rereklamo sya dapat may company na sya na malilipatan.

Goodluck

nfronda · June 2013

Tingnan nyo ang timeline ng isa nating forumers na c @rii.. Lodge 2nd visa application 457 on a new employer.. It shows na lumipat xa and his visa just granted last 27/06/13.. Maybe he can help @prettyme1026 on her husband's situation..

prettyme1026 · June 2013

thanks po, ung inyong mga suggestions ay nacopy and paste ko na s hubby ko. Pra ma inform ko na cya kung ano first step nya.

@nadine, glazier cya dun. Aun nga nag sesearch na kami para makahanap na ng lilipatan. Kya nga na voice out ko din ito, makahingi na din muna ng suggestions and maging eye opener na din sa iba, dahil who would have thought it could happen? So any update d2 sa sitwasyon ng hubby ko, i-post ko agad. Thanks ulit sa mga guidelines nyo.

Nadine · June 2013

@TotoyOZresident: Sir, totoo. Nakakalungkot. I had this notion na in this day and age, wala na dapat ganitong sitwasyon. Pero I'm proven wrong, nakikita at nababasa ko din sa local news ang reality ng 457. It is very much subject to abuse.

Kaya minsan, naisip ko na tama din siguro na regulate ni Gillard ang 457. May mga kumpanya kasi na abusado eh. Example, pag redundant na position, bigla na lang masisibak. Kung hindi man, cost-cutting. Kaya benefits (like superannuation) suffer. It all boils down to economics.

@prettyme1026: sorry ha, not very familiar with glazier. Ano po industry eto? Pasensya na kung hindi ko rin alam ano estado ng paghahanap ng ganitong klaseng work. Pero go lang ng go. Pag nakahanap na, lipat agad. Basta importante, andyan pa rin visa. Hopefully, makuha din niya yung mga benefits niya dapat. Tingin ko, kaya to. Sis, sa mga 457 na tulad namin, importante kasi ma-anticipate yung 1-2 years down the line, e.g. PR (at marami pang iba). Actually, kung hindi pa ako nakarating dito, di ko rin maiisip eto.

prettyme1026 · June 2013

hi @Nadine, about glass industry, installation of aluminum glass doors, windows and the like. Sabi ko nga baka masubukan ngaun yang bagong rules ng 457 kung gaano tlaga ang kahigpitan nila sa mga abusive employers. Sayang ang mga ot nya, pwede ng pang lodge for PR naming 4, we have 2 kids. Nung nkita cguro nilang hindi pumapalag dun na nagsimula clang hindi magbayad ng ot, tinuloy tuloy na. The first 3 months kc, okay naman nagbabayad naman cla. Nung nakita na malaki cguro ang naging tax nila aun dinedma nalang cla. OT tawad na lagi. Pero tama ka @nadine, wag mawawalan ng pag-asa. Hope and pray lang lagi.

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