Is it only the Primary applicant can apply a dependent?

KualaKangaroo · October 2013

Hi guys,

Matanong ko lang let say I have a brother then may asawa and anak sya na isa, then I have a sister na fully dependent sa brother ko. For all her needs and nakatira same roof with them. Sya nag aalaga sa pamangkin ko. Then, may small amount lang na inaabot pang kunswelo every month.

Kung mag aapply sila for visa either 189 or 190 at ang primary applicant ay yung asawa ng kapatid ko (sister-in-law), pwede bang isama ang ate as their dependent?

Patulong po. Salamat.

nfronda · October 2013

@KualaKangaroo..Dahil sister-in-law nya ang primary applicant mukhang malabo yata yan na masama ang sister mo as their dependent. Sa dependent kasi first blood basis yan ehh.. Pwdeng masama as dependent ay your mom or dad, brother or sister, first cousins, nephew or niece.

KualaKangaroo · October 2013

@nfronda Thanks sa fast reply... Ibig sabihin ang brother ko dapat ang maging primary applicant para masama ang ate?

nfronda · October 2013

@KualaKangaroo..Yes there is a chance, but then you have to consider this:
Other dependent relatives
A dependent relative (other than a dependent child) can be included in your visa application when you lodge your application.

You cannot add a dependent relative to a points tested skilled visa after you lodge your application.

To include your other dependent relative(s) in your application, there are requirements and evidence that must be provided to prove dependency.

To be considered a dependent relative you must prove they:

have no other relative able to care for them in their own country
are not currently married, engaged or in a de facto relationship
usually are a resident in your household
depend on you for financial support for their basic needs and you have supported them for a substantial period
depend on you more than any other person or source.
Acceptable forms of proof include:

a certified copy of their birth certificate and proof of their relationship to you
proof that the relative lives in your household
proof that your relative has been dependent on you for at least the last 12 months.
if your relative is divorced, legally separated or widowed, you must provide certified copies of supporting evidence, such as:

the document of legal divorce
the document of legal separation
the death certificate of the deceased partner

KualaKangaroo · October 2013

@nfronda uhmm ok, in any case my visa be granted, ang ate namin na lang ang matitira sa Pinas if ever my brother and his wife and children decided to migrate as well.

I think yung last remaining relative - yes
dependent - yes, living on same roof, dependent on shelter and no work or financial means to support herself other than dun sa monthly na kunswelo para sa pag alaga ng pamangkin.

She never been married, still single.

Ang main problem hindi magaling mag english ang kapatid kong lalaki compare sa asawa nya which I think mas malaking chance kung ung sister in law ko ang makapag IELTS plus considering din cguro ung work experience.

JCsantos · October 2013

If I were you I wont add the sister as a dependent ...

its too risky ...

correct me if I am wrong but from what I know if she fails the requirement you are all be denied visa

better to apply for you and your immediate family and then try to get her when you are already here in AU

nfronda · October 2013

@KualaKangaroo..If ang brother mo ang maging main applicant still we can't guarantee that ur sister can be included as his dependent. A lot of factor to be considered. Sa atin kasi sa pinas, pag ikw sau nakatira or ikw nagbibigay ng allowance we immediately considered him/her as our dependent. Sa OZ kasi iba, a lot of factors to be considered. And here are the factors.

1. How old is ur sister? If she is over 18 years of age she will not be considered as dependent.
2. Where is ur parents? Are they still alive? If they are u can't claim ur sister as ur dependent kasi dependent sya ng parents mo.
3. Is ur sister needs special care? If paralisado sister mo, u can consider her as ur dependent kasi she can't do anything on her own kailangan nya talagang my kasama all the time.
4. Wla na bang kaung ibang kamag-anak na pwedeng ipagbilinan ang sister mo?

And also based on the u have provided, it looks like nagtatrabaho sya sa brother mo kasi nga sya nag aalaga sa mga pamangkin nyo and in behalf of that binibgyan sya ng kaunting halaga.

KualaKangaroo · October 2013

If I were you I wont add the sister as a dependent ...

its too risky ...

correct me if I am wrong but from what I know if she fails the requirement you are all be denied visa

better to apply for you and your immediate family and then try to get her when you are already here in AU

Okay, kung tama pag ka intindi ko, mas magandang mauna na muna ako, then yung family ng brother ko then kunin namin ang ate namin since sya na lang ang last na relative remaining na nasa pinas?

KualaKangaroo · October 2013

@nfronda, thanks for the explanation.

Yup more than 18 na sya, parents uhmm nanay na lang natira and kasabay sya sa application ko. Hindi nya need ng special care, she can still work though wala syang natapos...kamag anak, lahat may pamilya na on their own...

Yup if di sya bibigyan for financial support wala syang pera din, kung baga allowance na lang.

nfronda · October 2013

@KualaKangaroo.. Dahil over 18 na sya u have to provide a strong evidence to prove how dependent she is. Kasi nga kmi as a dependent of our dad on his application, nag provide din kmi ng evidences na dependent kmi sa kanya kasi were over 18 na.

So kasama pla ang nanay mo sa application mo, so how's ur application?

KualaKangaroo · October 2013

@nfronda yup kasama ang nanay sa application. Ayun, still in progress...

Nagbabasa ako sa remaining relative visa, may cap pala un and mahabang hintayan...

JCsantos · October 2013

.

So kasama pla ang nanay mo sa application mo, so how's ur application?

Normally mas mataas ang chances sa nanay i reckon ... we all know that ... pag kapatid mahirap i prove na nagrerely sya sa iyo not unless merong kapansanan ...

nfronda · October 2013

@KualaKangaroo..Gudluck sa application mo.

Yes, matagal ang processing sa ganyang type of visa..

j_1019alisen · March 2014

@nfronda @KualaKangaroo Hi! buti po nahanap ko ang forum na to tatanongin ko lang po sana if:

1.malaki ba ang chance na maging dependent ko ang sister ko for my subclass 190 visa? she is a nurse obviously over 18 na at currently unemployed...

2. may chance po ba ma deny ako if she wont make it??

thanks!