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Posts: 972Member
Joined: Sep 11, 2016
In regards to jobs, dedepende yan sa swerte mo pero nasa disadvantage tayo e. Di pwede full time since di tayo PR so unlikely tayo na mahire sa engg jobs, as well as kalaban natin ang locals. I tried sending tons of emails to engg companies. Walang nagpush through kahit isa haha. Be prepared ka dito na di maging maarte to do something unrelated sa engg.
Do more research, pero keep in mind na masters man o diploma course, both will give +5. You need to plan ahead before coming here. I personally resorted to student visa as it's my only option to get more points in 2 yrs, since kakagraduate ko lang last 2017.
These are all my personal experiences cause I am in the same boat as you. All the best!
233411 Electronics Engineer (Age-30, Educ-15,English proficiency-20, NAATI - 5, Single, - 10 Relative sponsorship - 15)
95 pts total
2017
June 3, 2017 = Graduated from College
July 8, 2017 = Took IELTS GT
July 21, 2017 = received IELTS results (LRWS = 8/9/7.5/7)
August 11, 2017 = Lodged EA assessment (Fast track)
September 6, 2017 = Received positive EA assessment, lodged EOI (489 Family sponsored - 60 pts)
September 21, 2017 = Took PTE exam
September 22, 2017 = Received PTE results (LRSW- 90/90/90/90), lodged 189 EOI (60 pts), updated 489 FS EOI (70 pts)
September 26, 2017 = Lodged 190 EOI (NSW) 65 pts
2018
1 year wait... still no EOI invite. Decided to pursue student visa instead
Course: Cert IV and Diploma - Work Health and Safety (DNA Kingston)
October 15, 2018 = offer letter from school
November 8, 2018 = Medical exam (St. Lukes)
November 20, 2018 = Paid for tuition
Novemeber 28, 2018 = Received COE
December 2, 2018 = Lodged visa, after 1 min, granted!
2019
Feb 4 2019 = arrived to Perth
2020
Jan 2020 = Age increased to 30 pts
Jan 20 2020 = Took NAATI
Jan 26 2020 = Results for NAATI (passed) +5 pts
Jan 27 2020 = lodged EOI 491 Family
Feb 10 2020 = invited finally!
Oct 8 2020 = 491 granted
2023
Oct 8 2023 = 191 Lodged
Oct 30 2023 = 191 granted
Posts: 9Member
Joined: Feb 18, 2019
Most likely magagamit pa natin yung pagiging engr. natin once magka PR tayo since tataas na chance ma’hire?
Thank you po!!
Posts: 32Member
Joined: Aug 10, 2015
Overview
When applying for the Skilled Independent visa (subclass 189), the Skilled Nominated visa (subclass 190) or the Skilled Regional (Provisional) visa (subclass 489), you must have completed either:
a single qualification that requires at least 2 academic years study, or
more than 1 qualification that results in a total of at least 2 academic years study
You must have completed your study in Australia in a total of no less than 16 calendar months, while you held a visa authorising you to study.
Your course, or courses, must be on the Commonwealth Register of Institutions and Courses for Overseas Students (CRICOS) and instruction must be completed in English.
Posts: 972Member
Joined: Sep 11, 2016
233411 Electronics Engineer (Age-30, Educ-15,English proficiency-20, NAATI - 5, Single, - 10 Relative sponsorship - 15)
95 pts total
2017
June 3, 2017 = Graduated from College
July 8, 2017 = Took IELTS GT
July 21, 2017 = received IELTS results (LRWS = 8/9/7.5/7)
August 11, 2017 = Lodged EA assessment (Fast track)
September 6, 2017 = Received positive EA assessment, lodged EOI (489 Family sponsored - 60 pts)
September 21, 2017 = Took PTE exam
September 22, 2017 = Received PTE results (LRSW- 90/90/90/90), lodged 189 EOI (60 pts), updated 489 FS EOI (70 pts)
September 26, 2017 = Lodged 190 EOI (NSW) 65 pts
2018
1 year wait... still no EOI invite. Decided to pursue student visa instead
Course: Cert IV and Diploma - Work Health and Safety (DNA Kingston)
October 15, 2018 = offer letter from school
November 8, 2018 = Medical exam (St. Lukes)
November 20, 2018 = Paid for tuition
Novemeber 28, 2018 = Received COE
December 2, 2018 = Lodged visa, after 1 min, granted!
2019
Feb 4 2019 = arrived to Perth
2020
Jan 2020 = Age increased to 30 pts
Jan 20 2020 = Took NAATI
Jan 26 2020 = Results for NAATI (passed) +5 pts
Jan 27 2020 = lodged EOI 491 Family
Feb 10 2020 = invited finally!
Oct 8 2020 = 491 granted
2023
Oct 8 2023 = 191 Lodged
Oct 30 2023 = 191 granted
Posts: 82Member
Joined: Apr 23, 2018
by the way. I'm Chemical Engineer sa pinas. pumunta ko dito day after oathtaking
233111-Chemical Engineer | Age:30 | Education:15 | English:10 | Designated language: 5 | Total: 60
09/09/2018 Lodged SV via Globancy Au (onshore)
26/09/2018 Medical for SV
23/10/2018 Visa Grant
28/03/2019 NAATI-CCL TEST (CANBERRA)
18/04/2019 PTE
19/04/2019 PTE (not superior!)
20/05/2019 NAATI-CCL results (passed!!!! yay!)
21/05/2019 lodged assessment in EA via fast track
05/06/2019 EA positive outcome
XX/06/2019 PTE again
Posts: 32Member
Joined: Aug 10, 2015
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Joined: Jan 02, 2019
Posts: 9Member
Joined: Feb 18, 2019
@MLBS ahh ganun po ba.I’ll consider po your course tho may appointment rin po ako bukas with AMS global. Ok lang po sakin magwork outside engg field kahit anong work po while focusing on getting my PR ) Gusto ko lang po ma’make sure na we’ll have higher chances po on getting our engg field jobs/dream jobs in AU after PR. Wala rin po kasi ako masyado nababasa about engr sa AU. Thank you po!!
@kailey hello po! Gaano katagal na po kayo sa AU? Nagdiploma ka rin po ba?
Posts: 972Member
Joined: Sep 11, 2016
233411 Electronics Engineer (Age-30, Educ-15,English proficiency-20, NAATI - 5, Single, - 10 Relative sponsorship - 15)
95 pts total
2017
June 3, 2017 = Graduated from College
July 8, 2017 = Took IELTS GT
July 21, 2017 = received IELTS results (LRWS = 8/9/7.5/7)
August 11, 2017 = Lodged EA assessment (Fast track)
September 6, 2017 = Received positive EA assessment, lodged EOI (489 Family sponsored - 60 pts)
September 21, 2017 = Took PTE exam
September 22, 2017 = Received PTE results (LRSW- 90/90/90/90), lodged 189 EOI (60 pts), updated 489 FS EOI (70 pts)
September 26, 2017 = Lodged 190 EOI (NSW) 65 pts
2018
1 year wait... still no EOI invite. Decided to pursue student visa instead
Course: Cert IV and Diploma - Work Health and Safety (DNA Kingston)
October 15, 2018 = offer letter from school
November 8, 2018 = Medical exam (St. Lukes)
November 20, 2018 = Paid for tuition
Novemeber 28, 2018 = Received COE
December 2, 2018 = Lodged visa, after 1 min, granted!
2019
Feb 4 2019 = arrived to Perth
2020
Jan 2020 = Age increased to 30 pts
Jan 20 2020 = Took NAATI
Jan 26 2020 = Results for NAATI (passed) +5 pts
Jan 27 2020 = lodged EOI 491 Family
Feb 10 2020 = invited finally!
Oct 8 2020 = 491 granted
2023
Oct 8 2023 = 191 Lodged
Oct 30 2023 = 191 granted
Posts: 9Member
Joined: Feb 18, 2019
yes po magreresearch rin po ako ng schools na kaya ng budget yung di ko pala sure is yung course na in line sa field ko po pero nagkaidea na rin po ako based sa course mo po
Medyo scared lang po ako na baka in time di rin ako makakuha ng engg field job sa AU eh wala naman rin po ako exp dito sa PH pa pero I really wanna go talaga sa AU huhu
Posts: 972Member
Joined: Sep 11, 2016
Di ka alone so dont worry. Message me if you need anything haha iilan lang tayong bata bata pa sa forum na to e (sorry po sa senior members hehehe)
233411 Electronics Engineer (Age-30, Educ-15,English proficiency-20, NAATI - 5, Single, - 10 Relative sponsorship - 15)
95 pts total
2017
June 3, 2017 = Graduated from College
July 8, 2017 = Took IELTS GT
July 21, 2017 = received IELTS results (LRWS = 8/9/7.5/7)
August 11, 2017 = Lodged EA assessment (Fast track)
September 6, 2017 = Received positive EA assessment, lodged EOI (489 Family sponsored - 60 pts)
September 21, 2017 = Took PTE exam
September 22, 2017 = Received PTE results (LRSW- 90/90/90/90), lodged 189 EOI (60 pts), updated 489 FS EOI (70 pts)
September 26, 2017 = Lodged 190 EOI (NSW) 65 pts
2018
1 year wait... still no EOI invite. Decided to pursue student visa instead
Course: Cert IV and Diploma - Work Health and Safety (DNA Kingston)
October 15, 2018 = offer letter from school
November 8, 2018 = Medical exam (St. Lukes)
November 20, 2018 = Paid for tuition
Novemeber 28, 2018 = Received COE
December 2, 2018 = Lodged visa, after 1 min, granted!
2019
Feb 4 2019 = arrived to Perth
2020
Jan 2020 = Age increased to 30 pts
Jan 20 2020 = Took NAATI
Jan 26 2020 = Results for NAATI (passed) +5 pts
Jan 27 2020 = lodged EOI 491 Family
Feb 10 2020 = invited finally!
Oct 8 2020 = 491 granted
2023
Oct 8 2023 = 191 Lodged
Oct 30 2023 = 191 granted
Posts: 9Member
Joined: Feb 18, 2019
Posts: 972Member
Joined: Sep 11, 2016
233411 Electronics Engineer (Age-30, Educ-15,English proficiency-20, NAATI - 5, Single, - 10 Relative sponsorship - 15)
95 pts total
2017
June 3, 2017 = Graduated from College
July 8, 2017 = Took IELTS GT
July 21, 2017 = received IELTS results (LRWS = 8/9/7.5/7)
August 11, 2017 = Lodged EA assessment (Fast track)
September 6, 2017 = Received positive EA assessment, lodged EOI (489 Family sponsored - 60 pts)
September 21, 2017 = Took PTE exam
September 22, 2017 = Received PTE results (LRSW- 90/90/90/90), lodged 189 EOI (60 pts), updated 489 FS EOI (70 pts)
September 26, 2017 = Lodged 190 EOI (NSW) 65 pts
2018
1 year wait... still no EOI invite. Decided to pursue student visa instead
Course: Cert IV and Diploma - Work Health and Safety (DNA Kingston)
October 15, 2018 = offer letter from school
November 8, 2018 = Medical exam (St. Lukes)
November 20, 2018 = Paid for tuition
Novemeber 28, 2018 = Received COE
December 2, 2018 = Lodged visa, after 1 min, granted!
2019
Feb 4 2019 = arrived to Perth
2020
Jan 2020 = Age increased to 30 pts
Jan 20 2020 = Took NAATI
Jan 26 2020 = Results for NAATI (passed) +5 pts
Jan 27 2020 = lodged EOI 491 Family
Feb 10 2020 = invited finally!
Oct 8 2020 = 491 granted
2023
Oct 8 2023 = 191 Lodged
Oct 30 2023 = 191 granted
Posts: 9Member
Joined: Feb 18, 2019
Posts: 972Member
Joined: Sep 11, 2016
233411 Electronics Engineer (Age-30, Educ-15,English proficiency-20, NAATI - 5, Single, - 10 Relative sponsorship - 15)
95 pts total
2017
June 3, 2017 = Graduated from College
July 8, 2017 = Took IELTS GT
July 21, 2017 = received IELTS results (LRWS = 8/9/7.5/7)
August 11, 2017 = Lodged EA assessment (Fast track)
September 6, 2017 = Received positive EA assessment, lodged EOI (489 Family sponsored - 60 pts)
September 21, 2017 = Took PTE exam
September 22, 2017 = Received PTE results (LRSW- 90/90/90/90), lodged 189 EOI (60 pts), updated 489 FS EOI (70 pts)
September 26, 2017 = Lodged 190 EOI (NSW) 65 pts
2018
1 year wait... still no EOI invite. Decided to pursue student visa instead
Course: Cert IV and Diploma - Work Health and Safety (DNA Kingston)
October 15, 2018 = offer letter from school
November 8, 2018 = Medical exam (St. Lukes)
November 20, 2018 = Paid for tuition
Novemeber 28, 2018 = Received COE
December 2, 2018 = Lodged visa, after 1 min, granted!
2019
Feb 4 2019 = arrived to Perth
2020
Jan 2020 = Age increased to 30 pts
Jan 20 2020 = Took NAATI
Jan 26 2020 = Results for NAATI (passed) +5 pts
Jan 27 2020 = lodged EOI 491 Family
Feb 10 2020 = invited finally!
Oct 8 2020 = 491 granted
2023
Oct 8 2023 = 191 Lodged
Oct 30 2023 = 191 granted
Posts: 9Member
Joined: Feb 18, 2019
Posts: 50Member
Joined: Jan 12, 2017
233512 Mechanical Engineer
19/11/16 - IELTS results L8/R9/W7/S6.5 / Lodged Visa 476
02/03/17 - Visa 476 direct grant
12/03/17 - Initial Entry (Melbourne, VIC)
23/03/17 - EA CDR Application (fast track)
26/04/17 - EA CO requested for additional docs / Positive Outcome
11/05/17 - PTE A Exam
12/05/17 - PTE A Results L80/R86/S49/W81 (re-scoring due to technical problem)
14/05/17 - PTE A Re-scored Results L83/R90/S90/W81 / Submitted EOI (189 - 60 pts / 190 NSW - 65 pts)
Posts: 972Member
Joined: Sep 11, 2016
233411 Electronics Engineer (Age-30, Educ-15,English proficiency-20, NAATI - 5, Single, - 10 Relative sponsorship - 15)
95 pts total
2017
June 3, 2017 = Graduated from College
July 8, 2017 = Took IELTS GT
July 21, 2017 = received IELTS results (LRWS = 8/9/7.5/7)
August 11, 2017 = Lodged EA assessment (Fast track)
September 6, 2017 = Received positive EA assessment, lodged EOI (489 Family sponsored - 60 pts)
September 21, 2017 = Took PTE exam
September 22, 2017 = Received PTE results (LRSW- 90/90/90/90), lodged 189 EOI (60 pts), updated 489 FS EOI (70 pts)
September 26, 2017 = Lodged 190 EOI (NSW) 65 pts
2018
1 year wait... still no EOI invite. Decided to pursue student visa instead
Course: Cert IV and Diploma - Work Health and Safety (DNA Kingston)
October 15, 2018 = offer letter from school
November 8, 2018 = Medical exam (St. Lukes)
November 20, 2018 = Paid for tuition
Novemeber 28, 2018 = Received COE
December 2, 2018 = Lodged visa, after 1 min, granted!
2019
Feb 4 2019 = arrived to Perth
2020
Jan 2020 = Age increased to 30 pts
Jan 20 2020 = Took NAATI
Jan 26 2020 = Results for NAATI (passed) +5 pts
Jan 27 2020 = lodged EOI 491 Family
Feb 10 2020 = invited finally!
Oct 8 2020 = 491 granted
2023
Oct 8 2023 = 191 Lodged
Oct 30 2023 = 191 granted
Posts: 972Member
Joined: Sep 11, 2016
233411 Electronics Engineer (Age-30, Educ-15,English proficiency-20, NAATI - 5, Single, - 10 Relative sponsorship - 15)
95 pts total
2017
June 3, 2017 = Graduated from College
July 8, 2017 = Took IELTS GT
July 21, 2017 = received IELTS results (LRWS = 8/9/7.5/7)
August 11, 2017 = Lodged EA assessment (Fast track)
September 6, 2017 = Received positive EA assessment, lodged EOI (489 Family sponsored - 60 pts)
September 21, 2017 = Took PTE exam
September 22, 2017 = Received PTE results (LRSW- 90/90/90/90), lodged 189 EOI (60 pts), updated 489 FS EOI (70 pts)
September 26, 2017 = Lodged 190 EOI (NSW) 65 pts
2018
1 year wait... still no EOI invite. Decided to pursue student visa instead
Course: Cert IV and Diploma - Work Health and Safety (DNA Kingston)
October 15, 2018 = offer letter from school
November 8, 2018 = Medical exam (St. Lukes)
November 20, 2018 = Paid for tuition
Novemeber 28, 2018 = Received COE
December 2, 2018 = Lodged visa, after 1 min, granted!
2019
Feb 4 2019 = arrived to Perth
2020
Jan 2020 = Age increased to 30 pts
Jan 20 2020 = Took NAATI
Jan 26 2020 = Results for NAATI (passed) +5 pts
Jan 27 2020 = lodged EOI 491 Family
Feb 10 2020 = invited finally!
Oct 8 2020 = 491 granted
2023
Oct 8 2023 = 191 Lodged
Oct 30 2023 = 191 granted
Posts: 82Member
Joined: Apr 23, 2018
@zyrari dumating ako dito sa Sydney dec 2017 (after oathtaking) tapos 3months na bakasyon lang sana kaso ayaw ko na umuwi hahaha! kaya natuloy sa student visa and isa si MLBS sa nakausap ko about jan sa PR and student pathway. And tama din sya na mahirap maghanap ng work expi kung gusto mo na related sa field natin dahil pag magaapply ka ma fifilter ka agad dahil sa work restrictions.
233111-Chemical Engineer | Age:30 | Education:15 | English:10 | Designated language: 5 | Total: 60
09/09/2018 Lodged SV via Globancy Au (onshore)
26/09/2018 Medical for SV
23/10/2018 Visa Grant
28/03/2019 NAATI-CCL TEST (CANBERRA)
18/04/2019 PTE
19/04/2019 PTE (not superior!)
20/05/2019 NAATI-CCL results (passed!!!! yay!)
21/05/2019 lodged assessment in EA via fast track
05/06/2019 EA positive outcome
XX/06/2019 PTE again
Posts: 9Member
Joined: Feb 18, 2019
@kailey ahh ano pong course niyo dyan sa AU ngayon?
Thank you po guys sa pagrespond kahit baka busy po kayo sa mga work niyo
Posts: 35Member
Joined: Jan 30, 2018
Totoo mga sinasabe nila MLBS at kailey.
With regards sa pocket money, consider mo yung 3-5 months usual rent mo sa State mo. Like for example for my case in Perth, usually 130 to 150 aud per week ang rate.
You can find details sa rent sa flatmates or gumtree websites.
If plan mo magstudent visa, madadaanan mo rin yan kasi need mo yan imention sa SOP. How you will manage ur budget.
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Joined: Feb 18, 2019
Posts: 202Member
Joined: May 29, 2013
Nakakatuwa yung mga young professionals like yourselves na maaga pa lang, iniisip na ang best possible future.
I arrived in Sydney in 2014. Almost 5 years ago. I was 26. In the last 5 years, I was able to have my own family and earn at least 12 times than I was earning sa Pilipinas (ie. 1 year doon = 1 month dito)
I have my citizenship exam scheduled early March. Moving to Australia will always be in the top 3 best decisions I've ever made in my life.
Good luck sa inyong lahat! There are a lot of pathways available. It might be harder now than it was during my time, but if you don't try now, it will just get harder and harder down the line.
P.S UST ComSci graduate ako batch 2009. Shoutout to all Thomasians.
ICT Business Analyst - 261111
Visa Subclass 189
24 June 2013 - Skills Assessment submitted to ACS
15 Aug 2013 - IELTs General Speaking Test
17 Aug 2013 - IELTs General Test (Listening, Reading, Writing)
30 Aug 2013 - IELTs Results (L - 9.0, R - 8.0, W - 8.0, S - 8.0, Overall - 8.5)
24 Sept 2013 - Favorable letter received from ACS (ICT Business Analyst)
26 Sept 2013 - Submitted EOI (70 points)
7 Oct 2013 - Received Invitation to Apply (Visa Subclass 189)
11 Oct 2013 - Submitted Visa Application
21 Oct 2013 - Medical Exam (I completed mine, partner had to wait for a few days to complete hers)
- applied for NBI Clearance
24 Oct 2013 - Primary Applicant (me) Medicals uploaded by NHSI.
4 Nov 2013 - Partner completed Medical Exam
5 Nov 2013 - Claim NBI Clearance
- Secondary Applicant (partner) Medicals uploaded by NHSI.
6 Nov 2013 - 20 Nov 2013 waiting for CO.
21 Nov 2013 - CO Allocated
26 Nov 2013 - Visa Grant (yehey!!)
21 March 2014 - Flight to Sydney (Qantas 7PM HKT)
6 May 2014 - Received 12 month contract from company (same company I worked for in Manila)
12 May 2014 - Started work
15 Dec 2014 - Hired permanently by current company (IT Service Manager).
17 Apr 2018 - Applied for Citizenship (online)
11 Mar 2019 - Citizenship Exam Schedule
08 Oct 2019 - Australian Citizenship Ceremony
==Slowly, but surely..Things will fall into place..==
Posts: 82Member
Joined: Apr 23, 2018
@mhej Congrats po! and goodluck sa exam, madali lang yung exam nyo haha! buti hindi po kayo naabutan ng bagong rules about citizenship
233111-Chemical Engineer | Age:30 | Education:15 | English:10 | Designated language: 5 | Total: 60
09/09/2018 Lodged SV via Globancy Au (onshore)
26/09/2018 Medical for SV
23/10/2018 Visa Grant
28/03/2019 NAATI-CCL TEST (CANBERRA)
18/04/2019 PTE
19/04/2019 PTE (not superior!)
20/05/2019 NAATI-CCL results (passed!!!! yay!)
21/05/2019 lodged assessment in EA via fast track
05/06/2019 EA positive outcome
XX/06/2019 PTE again
Posts: 972Member
Joined: Sep 11, 2016
233411 Electronics Engineer (Age-30, Educ-15,English proficiency-20, NAATI - 5, Single, - 10 Relative sponsorship - 15)
95 pts total
2017
June 3, 2017 = Graduated from College
July 8, 2017 = Took IELTS GT
July 21, 2017 = received IELTS results (LRWS = 8/9/7.5/7)
August 11, 2017 = Lodged EA assessment (Fast track)
September 6, 2017 = Received positive EA assessment, lodged EOI (489 Family sponsored - 60 pts)
September 21, 2017 = Took PTE exam
September 22, 2017 = Received PTE results (LRSW- 90/90/90/90), lodged 189 EOI (60 pts), updated 489 FS EOI (70 pts)
September 26, 2017 = Lodged 190 EOI (NSW) 65 pts
2018
1 year wait... still no EOI invite. Decided to pursue student visa instead
Course: Cert IV and Diploma - Work Health and Safety (DNA Kingston)
October 15, 2018 = offer letter from school
November 8, 2018 = Medical exam (St. Lukes)
November 20, 2018 = Paid for tuition
Novemeber 28, 2018 = Received COE
December 2, 2018 = Lodged visa, after 1 min, granted!
2019
Feb 4 2019 = arrived to Perth
2020
Jan 2020 = Age increased to 30 pts
Jan 20 2020 = Took NAATI
Jan 26 2020 = Results for NAATI (passed) +5 pts
Jan 27 2020 = lodged EOI 491 Family
Feb 10 2020 = invited finally!
Oct 8 2020 = 491 granted
2023
Oct 8 2023 = 191 Lodged
Oct 30 2023 = 191 granted
Posts: 35Member
Joined: Jan 30, 2018
Posts: 9Member
Joined: Mar 20, 2019
so glad I came across this thread and saw mga kapwa Thomasians and Engineers.
Graduate po ako ng IE few years back and planning to take a student visa since di aabot points ko for PR.
First choice ko sana is Diploma in Project Management pero nagbago ang isip ko at baka Diploma in IT or Systems Analysis and Design na lang.
I saw @kailey is taking up Diploma in Project Management at naisip ko na naman bumalik. hoho!
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Joined: Jan 29, 2015
Posts: 82Member
Joined: Apr 23, 2018
233111-Chemical Engineer | Age:30 | Education:15 | English:10 | Designated language: 5 | Total: 60
09/09/2018 Lodged SV via Globancy Au (onshore)
26/09/2018 Medical for SV
23/10/2018 Visa Grant
28/03/2019 NAATI-CCL TEST (CANBERRA)
18/04/2019 PTE
19/04/2019 PTE (not superior!)
20/05/2019 NAATI-CCL results (passed!!!! yay!)
21/05/2019 lodged assessment in EA via fast track
05/06/2019 EA positive outcome
XX/06/2019 PTE again