Would you bring your family or wait for a while?

JCsantos

1) Should I include my family in my application right away? (wife, 3 kids, my mother perhaps?) or;
2) Should I put myself first and include them afterwards, maybe after I secure a steady job in Oz?

1. Include them ... imagine if you would have to go through all the hassle applying for a visa twice if you filed them separately

2. 1 year should give you enough time to get a a Job in oz then have them follow you

altuser41

@JCsantos

I see. Thanks.

I read somewhere that dependents above 18+, I have to pay a 2nd installment for them if the dependent cannot demonstrate a functional English.
The alternative way is to have the dependent enrolled in IELTS and have a grade not lower than 4.5 or, provide a certification of English.... from the institution he/she attended.

In the case of my mother who is 67 years old and an elementary undergraduate, but can understand/converse in English, can we still send her IELTS to take the test?

JCsantos

@JCsantos

In the case of my mother who is 67 years old and an elementary undergraduate, but can understand/converse in English, can we still send her IELTS to take the test?

Worry about your mother later .. anyway you can apply your mom a tourist visa ( there was a new legislation that you can apply your parent a tourist visa for a maximum period of 5 years ) at the same time you can apply her a different Visa , I am not sure what it is called according to the requirements if most of her siblings are overseas you can use that visa class ...

from memory also they are not required to have an english proficiency

KurikongSaTumbong

Boss JC, e si Inday pwede ko po ba isama?

JCsantos

Boss JC, e si Inday pwede ko po ba isama?

Pwede yata pero sa bahay mo muna patulugin :
)

altuser41

Thanks @JCsantos.

Our initial plan is to have my wife apply for 189 and tag me as her dependent (due to me not having enough work experience).

Are there work restrictions for dependents? Like a dependent cannot apply for work for a specified period of time?

All I can see in DIAC are only criterias to qualify as a dependent-partner.

http://www.immi.gov.au/skills/skillselect/index/including-family-members/

Thanks again!

TasBurrfoot

Thanks @JCsantos.

Our initial plan is to have my wife apply for 189 and tag me as her dependent (due to me not having enough work experience).

Are there work restrictions for dependents? Like a dependent cannot apply for work for a specified period of time?

All I can see in DIAC are only criterias to qualify as a dependent-partner.

http://www.immi.gov.au/skills/skillselect/index/including-family-members/

Thanks again!

No restrictions for dependent... Both of you can work in whatever industry you want.

icebreaker1928

Boss JC, e si Inday pwede ko po ba isama?

Pwede yata pero sa bahay mo muna patulugin :
)

gusto rin isama ni dodong si inday, pede rin ba daw?

lock_code2004

Thanks @lock_code2004 !

You mean to say if I chose #1 (wife,kids,parent), I will have to pay the entire Visa fee for all of us right away?

What are documents to provide to prove the dependency of one's parent to their child?
Our scenario is:
- I am an only child (mother-side )
- My mother is single (never got married)
- My mother is a senior citizen
- Has retired from her work as a seamstress
- Been living with us (my family) for 3 years now

Too bad the idea of living in Australia came in a bit late. If only I knew about this earlier, I could have saved a lot from the Visa fee alone. Heartbreaking. SMH.

yes, you will have to pay visa application fee for all person/s included in the application.

about your mother as a dependent/included in your application, there is a separate thread for that... please check/read from page 1..

http://pinoyau.info/discussion/918/parents-include-as-dependents/p1

JCsantos

Boss JC, e si Inday pwede ko po ba isama?

Pwede yata pero sa bahay mo muna patulugin :
)

gusto rin isama ni dodong si inday, pede rin ba daw?

si dudung pwede nating pagkakitaan .. si inday pwede natin ! )

altuser41

Salamat @lock_code2004!

jayp

Kami, bahala na si batman, will be bringing our 3 boys! 2 kids (a 5 and 3 1/2) and a baby ( 7 months)... we both plan to resign from work (sayang din ang separation pay). I already sold our house and will be selling all our stuff and our car before we leave... Hopefully this could get us by until we land a job. Worse-comes-to-worst I am willing to work odd jobs para di maubos savings...

Anybody here who has any idea on how much benefits we could get? Checking the human services calculator, it seems that we'll get roughly 900 aud per fortnight (family tax etc)...

altuser41

Hello Sir @jayp!

You know what? Our initial plan is as same as yours, except for the selling of the house/car part..
Could be happier if we could go there as 1 pact. Eventually we decided to entrust our 3 kids' welfare to our mothers until we are financially settled, hopefully in 1 year time.

Sana lang malagpasan namin ang emotional stress na maidudulot ng pagiging malayo sa mga bata.

Good luck on your plan. All the best!

jayp

@altuser41, kaya nyo yan... Actually, last June 6 pa nabigay visa nmen and back then we were also thinking na mauna muna kme mag asawa ng July to find a job first and balikan mga bata, or mag entry muna kaming lahat for about a month ng September then balik pinas muna then balik OZ nlng next year... but option number 1's disadvantage is mawawalay kme sa mga anak nmen so mejo bka di nmen kaya and financially ganun din kasi gagastos din naman sila dito dba... option number 2 naman is magastos, based on my computation, gagastos ako ng mga 300-400k on that 1 month stay e dagdag puhunan na rin naman yun kung titira na kami jan....

In the end we decided na we go as a family, anyway we have a bit of assets (house, car) and savings (stocks, savings) din naman kahit pano and the supposed benefits from centrelink that we might get since we have 3 kids, also may makuha pa pala kami sa separation pay as well as sa pag ibig (thanks to this forum where I learned that!)... Also, life is an adventure, so go na kami!

altuser41

@jayp, nakakainggit yung thrill ng ganyang setup hahaha...

natuwa lang ako sa post mo kasi eversince mahook up ako dito sa pinoyau, wala pa akong nababasa na magmimigrate / nagmigrate na family of 5, kaya nung umpisa parang atrasado ako kung ipupursue pa ba hehehehe..

well...since nasa step 1 pa lang naman kami (gathering educ/employment docs), anong malay namin baka kailangan ulit namin bumalik sa drawing board and assess the Pros and Cons (version 2).

Life is an adventure indeed.

ipink

@jayp hi i can somehow relate to you kasi im giving up a lot din to go to Aussie to start over. good luck to both of us. hopefully it will work out well. same kami ni @altuser41 ng final decision. will be leaving kids with mom muna. sana makahanap ng work kaagad..

drei_23

Hi,share ko din po story ko...mahirap Nga kapag sabay sabay kaung dumating dito...tapos wala p kaung alam sa place en culture dito...although tinutulungan kmi ng sis ng husband ko,nkakahiya..lahat ng gastos sa knila...1 month n kami dito,en still naghahanap pa rin ng job ..I have 5 yrs old daughter,,enrol sana nmin sya sa kindergarten pero we decided na nxt yr n lng....blak nmin sa pa tutorial nmin sya sa english para nmn di sya mg mukhang kawawa sa mga clasmate nya nxt year..na excite kami nung ma grant ang visa nmin...without knowing na marami plang kelangan gawin if you move here....although masaya nmn kasi magkakasama kmi kaya lng...nka bored kapag wala kng mgawa kundi mghintay ng tawag sa mga inaaplyan nmin..en still right now...were still hoping n magka work na..super kakahiya n kasi sa hipag ko..although super bait naman kaya lng syempre ung privacy ng family nila mejo,naapektuhan ksi meron sila sometimes dito family bonding...di nila mgawa un kasi alam nmin n iniisip rin nila kami...naaawa na rin ako sa baby nmin kasi maghapong kulong sa bhay watch lng ng tv,walang kalaro..minsan nagsasabi n lng na naboboring na sya..en sometimes she wnt something n di nmn maibigay...tita nya lagi bumibili ng laruan nya....sasabihin ng baby ko n pagnagka work kmi ng daddy nya bilhan daw nmin sya ng ganito,ganyan....en sometimes she's really xcited to go to school...haissttt..pero very thankful ako sa family ng hipag ko very supportive,lahat ng maitutulong gagawin nila para tulungan kami....actually di kmi nahihirapan dito kasi lahat talaga ng kelangan nmin sila ng proprovide.....ang mhirap lang is yung super nkakahiya.nkaka stress din po yun...

stolich18

@drei_23 dont worry lahat halos ng migrants dumadaan sa ganyang experience. Napakablessed nyo at may relatives/family kayo dito. Napakahirap magstart ng walang kakilala dito.. Financially draining din... hehehe Kaya bawi na lang kayo sa knila pag nagkawork na. Im sure naiintindihan nila situation nyo.

Anyway, regarding your daughter, wag kayong mag-alala about her English. Actually ang mga bata dito, after ilang months lang mas magaling na mag-english than their parents. hehehe ang goal ng mga parents dito normally, turuan magtagalog mga anak nila kase nakakalimutan na nila eventually. Un ang challenge dito. Kaya ung anak ko, tinatagalog ko, 2 years old pa lang sya. hehehe Kahit tinatagalog ko andami nya nang nappickup na english words. May law ngapala ang Au na by 6 years old dapat enrolled na ang bata and pumapasok na sa school.

drei_23

Oo nga po eh..yun na lang din po ng iniisip ko,,na yung iba nka survive ng walang tumutulong....kaya kaya rin nmin..were so blessed po talaga at mabait family ng hubby ko,,ala ring namang mangyayari kung mahihiya rin ako,,dahil no choice talaga...were hoping n lng po na sana magkawork po agad kmi kahit isa lng po sa amin para atleast hindi lahat sa sister in law ko...about my daughter nmn po,sabagay tama din po kau,,mejo sa ngayun nga po ng eenglish n rin po sya,,kakapanood ng tv,,en tinuturuan din nmn nmin po sya...ang mga bata rin nmn po is madaling matuto...kaya bka cancell n lng nmin ung plan nmin for her...nxt may pa po sya mag 6 yrs old..ang starting daw po ng school yr dito is feb....thank you for reading my story...

JCsantos

Kung worry nyo ang school and english speaking ng anak nyi i recommend e childcare nyo kahit 1 a week, after a month iba na tono ng anak mo

sinli_au

Nasa stage na rin po kami ng paglipat jan sa WA at gaya ng tanong dito, which is better - kung pupunta ba ang buong pamilya jan o isa isa lang muna hanggang makahanap ng work at makasettle?

sa case namin, gusto ko na ring i-risk na buong pamilya na lang kami pumunta jan para less worry and probably less gastos. my pondo nmn po na enough for maybe 3-6 months. ang tanong lang po kung paano makakakuha ng accommodation (house rental) na wala pang work. any input sa mga nkagawa na nito na wala din kakilala jan sa oz? my nababsa kasi ako dati na kelangan masatisfy yung points system sa house rental.

JCsantos

tanong lang po kung paano makakakuha ng accommodation (house rental) na wala pang work. any input sa mga nkagawa na nito na wala din kakilala jan sa oz?

Nung nag initial entry kami nun ng wife ko nakahanap ako ng matutuluyan via the yahoo group, Filipino family .. pinaparentahan nila yung isang room nila... siguro naka 3-4 months ako dun .... then nakahanap ng work lumipat ulit ...

sinli_au

Pag couple lng without kids mas madali atang kumuha kesa pag ksama kids kasi buong house kailangan? By the way anong yahoogroup yung napaghanapan mo?

rguez06

Nakakatakot tlga to make that big move. Kami we will be doing our initial entry this Nov. kasama ko na yung wife ko and 3 y/o daughter, though meron na kaming matutuluyan for the first 2 months and I have an online job, I still loose sleep because of uncertainties na pwedeng mangyari. Sana makahanap agad ng local work para makasettle na rin permanently. All the best for everyone!

jenee

hello po. hingi ako ng advise. nasa process pa kami ng pagkuha ng medical and pcc pero while inaasikaso yun, nagbbudget narin at nagdedecide kung isasama na namin ang anak namin habang kami ay naghahanap ng work. Hindi kasi namin option magasawa na mauna dun ang isa samin. So ang 2 options lang is either mauna kaming magasawa or buong pamilya na kami lilipat. I think in terms of cost, halos same lang ang 2 options. And preference ko talaga is buo kami pupunta. Pero I may be missing something. Paki advise naman po, if you were in our case kung ano ang gagawin nyo. Thanks.

Option 1: kami muna, habol nalang si baby (2yrs old sya by the time lilipat kami)
+: flexible accommodation and no schedule constraint, kahit pauli ulit ang ulam ok lng.
-: nde kami makaka claim ng benefits, kelanganan magremit para sa budget ni baby sa pinas.

Option 2: buong pamilya
+: magkakasama kami, can claim benefits
-: pressure maghanap ng work, baka mahirap makakuha ng slot sa childcare, added cost ng childcare although my rebate naman

heyits7me_mags

@nylram_1981, i'm just thinking how i may help my husband and figuring out our expenses if we are already living there in Oz. Right now po kasi housewife po ako since i stop working in 2008 for the kids. Sufficient nman po yung kita ng husband ko kaya nag stop ako mag work. Now i don't know pag nandyan n kmi sa Oz, although pwede nman akong mag work ulit. You know what i mean cguro po if the life we are having could be the same in Oz.

IslanderndCity

tanong lang po kung paano makakakuha ng accommodation (house rental) na wala pang work. any input sa mga nkagawa na nito na wala din kakilala jan sa oz?

Nung nag initial entry kami nun ng wife ko nakahanap ako ng matutuluyan via the yahoo group, Filipino family .. pinaparentahan nila yung isang room nila... siguro naka 3-4 months ako dun .... then nakahanap ng work lumipat ulit ...

@JCsantos buhay pa ba ang yahoo group na'to? how to join po?