Enter Australia as Tourist, then apply for work

MindForce

Mga Kababayan, I am based in Tokyo since 2006. I am seriously considering relocating to Australia. In fact, I visited Melbourne as tourist last Aug. I have a one-year multiple visa, maximum stay is 3 months for every visit. My Australian visa expires in July 2012. Paki-advise lang kung yung plano ko ay mainam. Babalik uli ako ng Australia and stay for maximum of 3 months. While I am there, I will look for a job, but not work as tourists are not allowed to work. When I find an employer, I will exit Australia and have my offshore work visa processed. Another alternative is to enter Australia as student. At least, kapag estudyante ako I can stay there for one year tuluy tuloy. Kaya lang, I really dont need to study anymore because I already have a master's degree and extensive experience sa field ko. Kung baga yung student visa is just to give me ample time to look for a job. Alin sa palagay ninyo mas mainam--enter as tourist (3 months ng 3months) or as a student? Ang di ko lang gusto sa pagiging student is that I have to pay the one-year tuition. Sayang naman if after a few weeks or months I find a job. Definitely, I will drop out from my enrollment.

I would appreciate any feedback from the readers. Salamat.

tootzkie

Obtaining student visa is not that easy, it's a tedious process, plus you have to demonstrate sufficient fund (millions of pesos) to support yourself while studying. I think there are short-courses (3-months) offered by TAFE that don't require student visa. From there you can build network of friends that can refer you to prospective employers.

MindForce

Thank you Tootzkie. But I do have a one-year multiple tourist visa that allows me to stay maximum of 3 months for every visit. If my purpose is to build a network of friends, then I don't need to enrol in a school. That saves me the effort and money required to obtain a student visa. If I enter Australia as tourist, I will look for an employer who will sponsor me. I will obtain a work permit and lodge my PR application afterwards. Your thoughts on this? Thank you.

gemini23

HI! Good day to all! Hindi po ba bawal mag-apply ng job sa Australia if you're holding a tourist visa? If online application naman, I saw on some websites, bawal mag-apply if you're not holding a working visa- something like that- ??? Nakaka-apply po ba yung ibang Pinoy online?

therealaids

hi gemini, it is indeed not allowed... i know some people who went there as tourist and was able to get a job. that will depend i guess on luck . In my opinion if you are a gambler then go ahead. just be sure mahaba ang pisi(money) mo when u decide to fly there.

MindForce

hi therealaids, as you have mentioned, you know some people who entered as tourists and were able to find a job. In other words, while on visitor visa they applied for a job, and they were able to find one. So people could actually apply for a job even though the law says they shouldn't while on visitor visa. Is my understanding correct? Thank you.

TotoyOZresident

hi therealaids, as you have mentioned, you know some people who entered as tourists and were able to find a job. In other words, while on visitor visa they applied for a job, and they were able to find one. So people could actually apply for a job even though the law says they shouldn't while on visitor visa. Is my understanding correct? Thank you.

Hi he knows people but maybe thats 3 or 2 years ago. November 2008 naapektuhan din ang australia sa recession simula nun medyo nabawasan na ang pagkuha nila ng overseas woker kaya ang naging priority nila ang locals. lalo na ngayun madami ng graduate dito na international student mas kinukuha nila yung grad dito kaya mas mahirap na ngyun maghanap ng work di tulad ng dati. its up to you kung i try mo at least nabigyan ka namin ng idea. cheers

MindForce

Hi, thank you for your confirmation. So people have done it before--they were on tourist visa, they looked for a job, and they found a job. Well, it is really up to me to take my chance. I cannot compare myself to fresh graduates because I have more than 10 years of experience in my field. I don't think all employers need fresh grads only. There are prospective employers looking for applicants with experience. cheers.

therealaids

yes i heard it's different nowadays, a friend of mine went there like 2 yrs ago.

tootzkie

maybe it depends on the skills you're holding and if there's really a shortage of manpower in the location you're living. In case of Western Australia where mining industry is crying out of skilled person, then there would be a better chance for tourists land a job. Remember, they doubled the number of work permit visa to be issued. And yes, i guess finding a job is a matter of luck and hardwork.

MindForce

Hi tootzkie, thank you for your positive note. I didn't know that they have doubled the number of work permit visas. That's good news. However, I am aware of the mining boom in Western Australia, and the shortage of skilled/unskilled labour there. And the shortage is not only in the mining industry.

jjm

hi gemini, it is indeed not allowed... i know some people who went there as tourist and was able to get a job. that will depend i guess on luck . In my opinion if you are a gambler then go ahead. just be sure mahaba ang pisi(money) mo when u decide to fly there.

Hi.

So yung pag aapply online like sa seek.com wala rin palang saysay kase di talaga allowed?

gemini23

I don't intend to apply for any job if I was under a tourist visa cuz I know the risk it may cause. I just got curious on some people's remarks regarding applying a job when coming to Aussie...One suggestion says, you should apply online and arrange an interview before coming there (I'm not sure if it includes tourist visa) but it seems impossible to do cuz I tried to look on the job search sites and they have this notice, that you should have a relevant visa
before you can apply plus if you are going to apply there under tourist visa, I think you should stay there for a month or so but then, it's a tough thing to do as what I heard cuz employers would ask for your visa and the immigration has ways to know whether your purpose is for employment or not (see Border Security program). That's why it's better to settle everything n legal ways. We just have to be patient, focus on our target and of course faith in God.

TotoyOZresident

I don't intend to apply for any job if I was under a tourist visa cuz I know the risk it may cause. I just got curious on some people's remarks regarding applying a job when coming to Aussie...One suggestion says, you should apply online and arrange an interview before coming there (I'm not sure if it includes tourist visa) but it seems impossible to do cuz I tried to look on the job search sites and they have this notice, that you should have a relevant visa
before you can apply plus if you are going to apply there under tourist visa, I think you should stay there for a month or so but then, it's a tough thing to do as what I heard cuz employers would ask for your visa and the immigration has ways to know whether your purpose is for employment or not (see Border Security program). That's why it's better to settle everything n legal ways. We just have to be patient, focus on our target and of course faith in God.

sa baba ng online job ads lagi may nakalagay na: ang puede lang mag apply ng work ay yung may visa allowed to work, permanent resident at citizen. cheers

jjm

I don't intend to apply for any job if I was under a tourist visa cuz I know the risk it may cause. I just got curious on some people's remarks regarding applying a job when coming to Aussie...One suggestion says, you should apply online and arrange an interview before coming there (I'm not sure if it includes tourist visa) but it seems impossible to do cuz I tried to look on the job search sites and they have this notice, that you should have a relevant visa
before you can apply plus if you are going to apply there under tourist visa, I think you should stay there for a month or so but then, it's a tough thing to do as what I heard cuz employers would ask for your visa and the immigration has ways to know whether your purpose is for employment or not (see Border Security program). That's why it's better to settle everything n legal ways. We just have to be patient, focus on our target and of course faith in God.

sa baba ng online job ads lagi may nakalagay na: ang puede lang mag apply ng work ay yung may visa allowed to work, permanent resident at citizen. cheers

Hi.

Pero may mga job ads din na walang nakalagay na "You must have the right to live and work in this location to apply for this job. Ibig ba sabihin may mga company rin nagcoconsider ng overseas applicant? Any comment on this?

gemini23

So far, wala pa kong nakitang sites na walang nakalagay na ganyan...anong jobsites na-search mo?

jjm

So far, wala pa kong nakitang sites na walang nakalagay na ganyan...anong jobsites na-search mo?

sa seek.com din. some ads may nakalagay talaga, pero meron din wala. napansin ko lang pag mga multi companies walang nakalagay, i was thinking na this companies kase are open for overseas applicants, kaya"baka" nga. Not really sure pa rin, kaya try lang, baka nman nga pde.

tootzkie

i just wonder why there are lots of companies offering for 457 visas if they rely only on immigrants. if you have an extraordinary skills and qualification then why not? Go for tourist and apply. It's legal, coz if there's really a company fascinated with your qualification and hired you, then that's it go back to your country of origin to process 457. And yes, there is an associated risk on that coz DIAC discourages that pathway and they may stop you at the immigration desk. Well, life is a gamble,if you want to take risk then go! and make life worth thrilling.

TotoyOZresident

i just wonder why there are lots of companies offering for 457 visas if they rely only on immigrants. if you have an extraordinary skills and qualification then why not? Go for tourist and apply. It's legal, coz if there's really a company fascinated with your qualification and hired you, then that's it go back to your country of origin to process 457. And yes, there is an associated risk on that coz DIAC discourages that pathway and they may stop you at the immigration desk. Well, life is a gamble,if you want to take risk then go! and make life worth thrilling. </blockquote

well if you have an extraordinary skills, qualification and very in-demand ang skills nyo imbes mag touristmuch better send ang cv nyo sa jobsite. the problem is kahit nandun na kayo sa australia sa job-online pa rin kayo mag aapply. at ang mag initial interview di na naman company kung di job agency review pa nila qualification then kung nakasama kayo sa short list staka pa lang nila irecomend sa company na naghahanap. Maraming proseso kaya di ganun kadali magapply ng work dito. cheers

tin26

hello po ano po kaya tamang visa para po sa cleaner .salamat po sa sasagot sa tanong ko.

heycoachputmein

@tin26 wala pong visa specific for cleaners

jjenniefer

@tootzkie hi I saw ur post regarding TAFE. magkano po kaya yung short courses? also, saan po kaya pwede mkakuha ng details? I am searching for cheapest way n magstudent visa since limited budget lang ako. But I also wanted to migrate eventually

IslanderndCity

@jjenniefer hi, nabasa nyo na po sa website ng Tafe?

jjenniefer

@IslanderndCity hi! not yet po. may link po b kau? thank you po

RoselleMartinez811

Hi po, kakaregister ko lang po dito, kasi ask ko lang po sana, nag apply po ako tourist visa for australia online. submit ko nalang po documents, just in case nasa australia nako holding tourist visa, pwede po ba ako mag apply dun australia kahit naka tourist visa ako, tapos just in case natanggap ako sa work, mag exit nalang po ako para makuha employment visa, is that possible po? please need your advice. mabibigyan kaya ako employment visa for cashier,receptionist,waitress,cosmetics or perfume sales promoter,customer service, nagwowork po kasi ako as a cosmetics sales promoter ngaun also make up artist, mabibigyan po ba kaya ako employment visa. Thank you for your help.

batman

@RoselleMartinez811welcome to the forum.

tourist visa holders are not allowed to work. You can go for interview if meron mag entertain sau. but with the nature of your work, I believe madami mga part timers na kinukuha sa ganung work. local/onshore applicants madami na Lalo yun mga naka student visa. why don't you check if you are eligible for PR visa.

RoselleMartinez811

@batman thank you sa advice magsusubmit na kasi ako documents online para sa tourist visa, tapos try ko maghanap work dun just in case palarin, peru pwede ko ba itry un magapply dun australia walk in tapos mag exit nalang ako para makuha employment visa just in case ma hire ako? or pwede ako tourist visa dun tapos dun nako australia mag apply PR? please any suggestions sir, need your help,

RoselleMartinez811

@batman dito kasi ako abu dhabi uae now nagwowork, try ko apply tourist visa sa australia tapos dun ako hanap work sana.

batman

@RoselleMartinez811 if you read from the thread very slim chances for you to get hired using visit visa. Baka nga di ka ma bigyan ng visit visa kong yan ang intention mo pa pasok ng AU.

maguero

@RoselleMartinez811 TSS visa ang tawag sa work visa sa Australia. Hindi lahat ng occupations eligible sa visa na ito. Pwede mong tignan sa list na ito kung aling occupations ang eligible, nakalagay TSS (S) or TSS (M) sa Visa Subclass na column.

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/trav/work/work/skills-assessment-and-assessing-authorities/skilled-occupations-lists/combined-stsol-mltssl