Visa Subclass 189 Refused

eujin · June 2017

hi @cacophony , assessing body will give a date when you can start counting your work as relevant and claim points for. that's met date.

hmmm, not really sure pala about your case, kasi magkaiba tayo ng nominated skill..
check this out po for your assessment: http://pinoyau.info/discussion/114/engineers-australia-skills-assessment/#latest

Chad · July 2017

Hi @eujin / guys,

I am a little paranoid after reading this thread.

Here's my case:
My ACS assessment result said that I can claim points for my experience after January 2009. I have been in continuous employment since Feb 2005. However, I entered the start date as Feb 2005 (because I don't know the proper way to fill up the form) and NOT Feb 2009 when I submitted my EOI last Feb 27, 2017. I have gotten the ITA March 29, 2017. Counting the years from Feb 2009 to Feb 27, 20017, I have 8 years experience; thus I claimed 15 points. Can you guys comment if this is going to be a problem, please? Thank you very much in advance!

Noodles12 · July 2017

I think what you should have done is to divide the work experience from the non claiming pts and for the claiming pts one. create 2 separate entry for each working experience.

example.
Feb 2005 - Jan 2009 : Non claiming pts
Feb 2009 - present : Claiming pts.

I suggest you to be on the safer side and don't risk of being refused because of over claiming pts. There's a recent visa refusal because of over claiming pts.

Chad · July 2017

@Noodles12 : The thing is I have already lodged my visa application. All documents have been uploaded too. The current status is "Assessment in progress". Not sure what to do after reading the visa refusal recently.

Noodles12 · July 2017

I think you can try to submit a form for incorrect answer.

https://www.border.gov.au/Forms/Documents/1023.pdf

Chad · July 2017

what about sending this kind of email, @Noodles12
_____________________________________________________________

July 11, 2017

To: GSM Adelaide
70 Franklin Street Adelaide SA 5000

RE: Employment - Claiming Points

Hi Sir / Ma'am,

Good Afternoon and I am hoping that you are having a great day.
I am writing to inform this office that I did not create two separate entries for the working experience about non claiming/claiming points experience. The ACS assessment result said that I can only claim points for my experiences after January 2009, but I have entered the start date of employment from 2005 because I am not exactly sure about the way to reflect them in the form. What I do know is I have calculated carefully the number of years after January 2009 when I logged my EOI. After careful calculation, it has come to my attention that I have sufficient 8 years of experience to claim 15 points. I am little nervous that by NOT splitting them in two separate entries may cause issue because I have read in some forums that the proper way to reflect them is split in two entries. If that is the correct way to reflect them in any forms that DIBP needs, kindly let me know the process and I will make sure to do that way.

I am hoping that you can shed light on this matter.

Also, I have noticed that there is a form to notify incorrect answers (1023). Please advice if this will help or the above explanation would suffice. Thank you very much in advance.

Sincerely yours,
Chad

Noodles12 · July 2017

I think send them this email and complete the form. I'm not sure if the CO that will receive this email will be the same to review your application.

Chad · July 2017

@Noodles12 Thanks, appreciate the feedback.

Noodles12 · July 2017

@Chad No problem. good luck to you and to all of us waiting. hopefully all of us will have our visa granted!

KimBokJoo · July 2017

Hello, with regards sa eoi, halimbawa sa acs ang nakalagay is after jan 2009, kaso ang nailagay ko na start ng relevant is jan 2009 and not feb 2009... kaso pagcheck ko, invited na ung eoi ko, magmamatter ba un even if hindi naman magbabago ung points?

SAP_Melaka · July 2017

KimBokJoo said:
Hello, with regards sa eoi, halimbawa sa acs ang nakalagay is after jan 2009, kaso ang nailagay ko na start ng relevant is jan 2009 and not feb 2009... kaso pagcheck ko, invited na ung eoi ko, magmamatter ba un even if hindi naman magbabago ung points?

@KimBokJoo in my opinion, you will just need to correct upon lodging ng visa, since di naman nagbago points mo eh. Just my 0.02. Let's wait for others who've experienced the same scenario.

mamakai · July 2017

catgon0208 said:
may tanong din po ako about this. sabi sa ACS ko is relevant daw after May 2009. pero sa eoi ang nilagay ko start ng relevant exeprience is May 15 2009. kc ang completion ng 2yrs is May 14, 2009 (para dun sa 2 yrs na binabawas nila) Kahit na po May or june pa ang ilagay ko ganun pa rin ang points 60. siguro naman po eh hindi na issue to? nakakatakot magkamali eh ang mahal po.

thanks.

hi! hows your application? may impact po ba yung paglagay mo sa eoi ng employment dates is not based sa skills assessment kahit na same points lang din naman. hope you can reply. thanks!

KimBokJoo · July 2017

@SAP_Melaka thank you po. that's what I did, kinorrect ko na lang though I am not sure if may effect ba talaga..

shygirl012405 · August 2017

Hello meron po ba dito na delay ang pagkuha ng overseas police clearance then na refused ang visa?

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angpogingaccountant · August 2017

mga master, my kausap kasi akong agent, totoo ba yung sinasabi nya na yung continuous work experience ko na 7 years which is equivalent to 10 points may not be 10 points after all pag nag submit for assessment, just as well yung educational attainment? CPA board passer po ako, 10 points lang din po ba yun?

jhun2384 · August 2017

the only way to know is to have an assessment. pa assess mo na.

SAP_Melaka · August 2017

shygirl012405 said:
Hello meron po ba dito na delay ang pagkuha ng overseas police clearance then na refused ang visa?

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@shygirl012405 I dont think that this will be ground for visa refusal, if your CO set a deadline for PCC and then you wont be able to provide - you just need to inform them. It's not on your hand how long the processing right? CO should understand that

Hunter_08 · August 2017

medyo similar yung question ko kay @KimBokJoo nalagay ko kasi sa EOI yung end date ng isa kong employment is "April 30,2011" pero dapat tlga "April 16,2011" pero invited na ko.. pwede ko pa e correct na lang sa visa applicaton mismo? though yung employment na yan hindi naman ako mag cclaim ng points.. ok lang kaya yun na magkaina yung EOI and sa visa application mismo?

agd · August 2017

@Hunter_08 sir ilan points nyo sa EOI bago nainvite?

Hunter_08 · August 2017

@agd 55+10(visa 489) ako

agd · August 2017

@Hunter_08 with family sir or ikaw lang? Anong region pala sir?

Hunter_08 · August 2017

@agd ako lang sir. sa Tassie

cacophony · August 2017

eujin said:
hi @cacophony , assessing body will give a date when you can start counting your work as relevant and claim points for. that's met date.

hmmm, not really sure pala about your case, kasi magkaiba tayo ng nominated skill..
check this out po for your assessment: http://pinoyau.info/discussion/114/engineers-australia-skills-assessment/#latest

Is there a possibility po na ang EA ang magsabi ng dapat kong occupation based on the duties that I provided? Sa Skillselect and visa lodging po ba may declaration ng nominated occupation?

Hunter_08 · August 2017

@KimBokJoo tanong ko lang.. ni correct mo na lang sa mismong visa application yung maling date na nalagay mo sa EOI? hindi mo na ba ininform yung DIBP para ipabago yung EOI mo? ganun din kasi yung case ko though hndi ko pa sinasubmit yung visa application ko kasi nagaalala ako baka magka problema e ksi hindi parehas sa EOI.

Grifter · August 2017

@Noodles12 @eujin hello po. Baka lang po may ma advise kayo dto.. eoi lodge stage pa lang po ako.

Tanong po ulet re eoi application form, medyo nalito lang. Sabi po db last 10 years lang na experience. Ganto po un breakdown ko sa eoi for the same company:

Role 1: 2005 - mar 2008, no points claimed
Role 2: apr 2008 - jul 2008, no points claimed
Role 3: aug 2008 - 2011, points claimed.

Tama po ba na ilagay ko pa un 3 roles na yan? Or simulan na sa role 3 since d naman i-claim un role 1 & 2? E kaso po d naman macapture un experience ko ng 2007 (kung last 10 years nga) kung icut ko un role 1? Salamat

eujin · August 2017

hello @Grifter , parang naaalala ko, need parin then may checkbox asking if the particular employment is related to nominated occupation.. hmmm sorry.. can't remember.. kindly check your eoi onlineform if there is this field/checkbox.. @Noodles12 appreciate if you can verify..

salamat!

Grifter · August 2017

@eujin yep may ganon nga pong field asking kung ike claim un particular experience na un. Siguro declare ko na nga lang un 3. Hehe. Salamat po

eujin · August 2017

hi @Grifter , careful lang po ah.. baka ma-overclaim kayo ng points.. kung ano lang yung sinabi ng assessing body na related sa nominated.. yun lang ang nakacheck as relevant..

i think you know this na.. hehe.. goodluck..

Hunter_08 · August 2017

@eujin question, may idea ka ba regarding sa case ko? invite na ko sa EOI ko ng 489 visa pero napansin ko na mali pala yung exact date na nalagay ko sa employment details ko ibis na "April 16, 2011" nalagay ko "April 30,2011" tpos yung start date ng isa kong claim points sa employment should be "Nov 1,2012" nalagay ko "Oct 31,2011". pero yung claim points ko hindi naman magbabago same pa din.. pwede ba na sa visa application ko na lng e correct yung maling specific date sa employment ko? kaso baka magka problema sa CO dahil magiging magkakaiba ang EOI at visa application ko.

eujin · August 2017

hi @Hunter_08 , if your points are not gonna be affected, i think this is fine.. pero kasi yung correctness ng mga papers mo yung maquequestion.. hmm.. some people passed form 1023.. change of incorrect answers upon lodging their visa.. BE SURE lang na your points are intact..

you can check what others did:
pinoyau.info/discussion/2480/correcting-a-mistake-in-application-after-submitting
pinoyau.info/discussion/5564/wrong-input-in-eoi-years-of-experience-in-nominated-occupation