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Papaano ninyo minamanage maretain nang mga bata ang mother tongue natin?

Mga peemps na nasa OZ na at iba pang may ibang inputs na may totoong experience

isa na to sa mga inaalala ko kahit na alam ko na kakaunti lang yung totoong nagpapahalaga nito.

para to sa may mga anak na kung papaano ninyo nareretain yung tagalog skills nang mga bata?

may ways ba at may tekniks ba na dapat gawin? sana may makapagshare maraming salamat!

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  • AdminAdmin Singapore
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    magandang topic to @thegreatiam15 I think applicable rin to for those Families who are living abroad. like for the case of our Daugther. hindi namin cya tinuruan mag tagalog. puro english lang. but slowly tinuturuan namin cya ng mga simple tagalog words. kasi nakakawa rin pag naguusap kame ni misis ng tagalog at hindi nya naiintindihan.

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  • thegreatiam15thegreatiam15 Sydney
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    magandang topic to @thegreatiam15 I think applicable rin to for those Families who are living abroad. like for the case of our Daugther. hindi namin cya tinuruan mag tagalog. puro english lang. but slowly tinuturuan namin cya ng mga simple tagalog words. kasi nakakawa rin pag naguusap kame ni misis ng tagalog at hindi nya naiintindihan.
    epektib kaya kapag pagdating palang namin dun araw araw kausap namin siya tagalog iniisip ko kasi paano pag pumapasok na siya sa school papaano naman yung mga kalaro nya na english lang ang mother tongue

    I haven't lost everything except my mind...

  • AdminAdmin Singapore
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    Sa brigther side yes tama ka. Samin kasi walang prob ung anak namin kasi english mga kausap nya..

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    2011-08 : Started prev employer document gathering for ACS skill assessment (0/4)
    2010-12 : Philippines.com.au went offline and created www.pinoyau.info
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    2019-07: Favorable Skills Assessment result for Software Eng
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    2020-03: PTE Exam - L85,R75,S87,W86 (Mar 4 - grr nag increase L, S and W but bumaba 4pts si R!!!!!)
    2020-03 PTE Exam - L81 R79 S90 W81 (Mar 9 - Salamat Lord!!!!)

  • thegreatiam15thegreatiam15 Sydney
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    Sa brigther side yes tama ka. Samin kasi walang prob ung anak namin kasi english mga kausap nya..

    ang iniisip ko kasi although sa oz kami magsstay nang matagal ang publema ngayon paano kung uuwe kami tapos mga lolo lola nya hindi naman nakakapag ingles siyempre darating yung time na nagsasalita na nang diretso yung bata

    concerned ako papaano makikipagcommunicate siya pagdating nang panahon haha

    I haven't lost everything except my mind...

  • AdminAdmin Singapore
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    hahaha. oo nga. ganyan din kame nung umuwi, nose bleed daw mga kamaganak namin. Siguro pareho rin kasi kame ni misis ng weakness. Hirap kame mag express ng thought sa english kaya ayaw namin matulad anak namin saamin. hehehe

    2010-06 : Lurker at philippines.com.au (previously the #1 Pinoy Australian Forum)
    2010-06 : Started researching on Visa 175 - Target 120pts
    2011-08 : Started prev employer document gathering for ACS skill assessment (0/4)
    2010-12 : Philippines.com.au went offline and created www.pinoyau.info
    2011-03 : 1st child born - AU dream halted
    2014-03 : ACS document - 1/5 emp ref completed
    2015-01: Promoted at work - AU dream halted
    2015-11: ACS document - 1/6 emp ref completed
    2016-09: 2nd child born - AU dream halted
    2018-09: ACS document - 6/8 emp ref completed
    2018-09: Revised all employment references and affidavit from scratch
    2019-03: Completed Revised 8/8 emp ref
    2019-03: PTE Exam - L59,R75,S62,W64 (no preparation)
    2019-07: Favorable Skills Assessment result for Software Eng
    2019-11: PTE Exam - L70,R68,S79,W68 (competent only)
    2020-02: PTE Exam - L79,R79,S86,W76 (grr lack 3pts on Writing)
    2020-03: PTE Exam - L85,R75,S87,W86 (Mar 4 - grr nag increase L, S and W but bumaba 4pts si R!!!!!)
    2020-03 PTE Exam - L81 R79 S90 W81 (Mar 9 - Salamat Lord!!!!)

  • JCsantosJCsantos Sydney
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    Kausapin nyo ng tagalog

    Google for Everything !!!

  • thegreatiam15thegreatiam15 Sydney
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    Kausapin nyo ng tagalog
    haha epektib ba papi kung araw araw kakausapin?

    I haven't lost everything except my mind...

  • JCsantosJCsantos Sydney
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    Kausapin nyo ng tagalog
    haha epektib ba papi kung araw araw kakausapin?

    Me kakilala lang ako na ganun pero sarili kong anak d na makapagsalita ng tagalog .. he know a few words

    Google for Everything !!!

  • ram071312ram071312 Perth, Western Australia
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    ung friend namin sa US, me rule sila na pag sa loob ng bahay Filipino-only lang ang usapan..I guess effective naman kasi nakakapag salita at intindi naman ang kids nya ng Filipino, although the kids find it funny daw pag nagsasalita sila kasi malabot at me "twang".. so nahihiya sila pag ibang Pinoy ang kausap.. haha.

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  • FloranteFlorante Sydney
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    Kailangan na consistently kinakausap sila sa Tagalog at ini-encourage na sumagot sa Tagalog. Madaling matuto ng English ang mga bata. My youngest was 4 when we moved here, Tagalog lang alam nya. After 1 week sa kinder, conversant na sya sa English - with matching Aussie accent pa. After a couple of years hirap na sya mag-Tagalog kahit na Tagalog ang usapan namin sa bahay. Nakakaintindi pa din sya ng Tagalog pero English na sumagot.
  • sunflowersunflower Brisbane
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    Wala pa po akong anak, pero gusto ko lang sana mag-share from the point of view of a teacher naman, kasi kahit dito sa Pilipinas, isa sa problema ng mga parents ng students ko kung paano nila mapapagsalita ng Tagalog yung mga anak nila (karamihan sa estudyante ko kasi ay English speaking na Pinoy).

    Parang sponge ang mga bata kasi sobrang dali sa kanilang mag "soak up" ng information, lalo na kung fun ang method na ginamit niyo. Siyempre wala na tayong magagawa dun sa school setting sa Australia dahil talagang mga Englishero ang kausap nila. So ang magiging task ng parents yung sa bahay:

    1) Tulad nung kwinento ni @ram071312, effective yung Filipino-only at home na rule.

    2) Magpatugtog tayo ng mga Tagalog songs. Kung bata pa, mga Filipino Nursery Rhymes (Tong Tong Tong Pakitong, Pen Pen De Sarapen, Ako Ay May Lobo, Sampung Mga Daliri, atbp).

    3) Magpapanood tayo sa kanila ng mga pambatang Tagalog na palabas, tulad ng Hiraya Manawari.

    4) Basahan natin sila ng mga Tagalog na libro (books from Adarna, Tahanan, Lampara, etc). Siguraduhin rin natin na hindi magtatapos sa pagbabasa ng kuwento. Dapat magtanong rin tayo sa kanila ng mga tungkol sa kuwento para makatulong sa kanila na ma-comprehend yung naririnig niya (Ano pangalan nung tao sa kuwento? Anong ginawa nila? Saan sila pumunta? Bakit kaya niya yun ginawa? Kung nangyari yun sayo, anong gagawin mo?)

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  • C_hiLLC_hiLL Adelaide
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    Effective ang tagalog at home rule. Most of my relative in the US does this and so far napaka effective naman sa mga pinsan ko.

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  • thegreatiam15thegreatiam15 Sydney
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    @C_hiLL

    bossing maraming salamat sa inputs itatry ko na sa anak ko hehe nabasa ko mga comments nyo dito pinatake down ko muna english nursery rhymes haha

    @sunflower

    bibilihin ko na nga yung yellow na book na my abakada e kolektahin ko na mga OPM songs namen pero madalas mga hindi yung super luma na haha
    ung friend namin sa US, me rule sila na pag sa loob ng bahay Filipino-only lang ang usapan..I guess effective naman kasi nakakapag salita at intindi naman ang kids nya ng Filipino, although the kids find it funny daw pag nagsasalita sila kasi malabot at me "twang".. so nahihiya sila pag ibang Pinoy ang kausap.. haha.
    naiisip ko baka kasi naiilang na mga bata kapag ganoon tapos magtataka bakit nagagalit parents nila haha

    Kailangan na consistently kinakausap sila sa Tagalog at ini-encourage na sumagot sa Tagalog. Madaling matuto ng English ang mga bata. My youngest was 4 when we moved here, Tagalog lang alam nya. After 1 week sa kinder, conversant na sya sa English - with matching Aussie accent pa. After a couple of years hirap na sya mag-Tagalog kahit na Tagalog ang usapan namin sa bahay. Nakakaintindi pa din sya ng Tagalog pero English na sumagot.
    looks like yung kinatatakutan ko nangyari na sayo hopefully makaimbento pa tayo nag mga ways para icurb tong bagay na ito sana hindi inevitable ang sistemang ito

    I haven't lost everything except my mind...

  • MiyawskiMiyawski Melbourne
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    Kailangan na consistently kinakausap sila sa Tagalog at ini-encourage na sumagot sa Tagalog. Madaling matuto ng English ang mga bata. My youngest was 4 when we moved here, Tagalog lang alam nya. After 1 week sa kinder, conversant na sya sa English - with matching Aussie accent pa. After a couple of years hirap na sya mag-Tagalog kahit na Tagalog ang usapan namin sa bahay. Nakakaintindi pa din sya ng Tagalog pero English na sumagot.
    I think this is inevitable, in most cases. I've seen lots of families -- in Singapore, Australia and US -- where the kids understand tagalog but can't, or have difficulty, speaking it. Even in my household, it's the same. My eldest can understand Tagalog, and at some point, tried speaking a bit of it but has had difficulty expressing herself or simply does not have the confidence, not to mention masagwa minsan ang pronunciation / delivery.

    Siguro if gusto talaga ng mga magulang na matutong magtagalog ang kanilang mga anak -- read, write and speak -- then they may want to consider sending them for Tagalog lessons, or find time to actually teach them. Unfortunately, the latter is probably easier said than done for most parents (especially those working).

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