Nurses working in adelaide

jwillboi

Hello,


How do you find working as a nurse there in adelaide? Where can i find the kind of hospitals that i could possibly apply? is Theatre nurse in demand job in adelaide? Thanks

Bahay Kubo

Hello Po,

Tanong nyo sa Australian embassy how to come here as skilled worker-nurse.

Piece of advice Lang Po ay huwag maniwala sa mga agencies na maraming trabaho sa Adelaide. Huwag din pong maniwala sa poster ads na nakikita nyo dyan tungkol sa bagong hospital na naghihire ang Royal Adelaide Hospital. Dahil Hindi Ito totoo. In the future only 3 major hospitals will be operational. The rest of hospital about 4-5 will cease to provide tertiary health care like a normal hospital does. So staffing wise will need less nurses.

To give you a brief truth in nursing job as adelaide. In public sector at least no permanent work as nurse. Mostly casual that means may work if they need you, but they can cancel your shift on the same day. Also no direct hiring from Philippines. Because you need to study in our University for a 1 year to two year course. I think it's called graduate entry. Then you need to pass an English test taken in Australia either IELTS or OET. Then register to Aphra. Once you get your licence to practice you have to apply as GNP/TPPP as mga hospital. This is equivalent to internship in Philippines. That goes for a year. Once done it your own your own to find a nursing job by applying in different hospitals and nursing homes. Very few employers will automatically employ you. Very very few employers offer permanent residence as well.

With so many Australian nurses looking for work here. You have to be very competitive.

Hope this helps.

jwillboi

@Bahay Kubo

"In the future only 3 major hospitals will be operational. The rest of hospital about 4-5 will cease to provide tertiary health care like a normal hospital does. So staffing wise will need less nurses."




Nag Work ka as Nurse dyan. po?

What do you mean by this? Hmmm na curious tuloy ako...
Ohhh No, my chances are slim kong baga... But Hopeful naman... What are the 3 major hospitals ng Adelaide po?

Dapat talaga tayu mag ingat sa mga klaseng mga illegal na recruiter na yan, nag panggap tapos hindi nmn pala totoo mga sinasabi nila... tsk3x

Bahay Kubo

Nurse ako full-time dito sa adelaide for 12 years na sa Royal Adelaide Hospital. Dito na ako nagaral ng nurse kasi nagmigrate kami dit ay high school pa lang ako. Part-time din ako sa mga Uni nagtuturo ng nursing.

At least ang sasabihin ko ay Adelaide based.

Medyo complex ang nursing dito dahil control ng govenrment and employment ng mga public sector including public hospital. 8 years ago ang pag-apply ay direct sa mga hospital na gusto mong pag-applyan. For instance king gusto mong mag-apply sa Royal Adelaide Hospital magsubmit ka lang ng resume sa kanila at tatawagan ka nila. But after that naglagay ang government ng isang agency who looks after employing/hiring in any public hospital. Kasi ang sabi ng "labor government ay over the budget daw ang public health". Since then if you need apply through these agency para maka kuha ng employment. Pero almost 99% ng adevert ay casual employment (walang contract or full-time). That means ilalagay ka nila sa pool at tatawagan ka nila kung kailangan ka. Parang agency ba (of course no work no pay). Ito ang website nila tignan mo ang sinasabi ko http://jobs.sahealthcareers.com.au/caw/en/listing

May mga nagscreen dito ay kung alam nila na overseas ka at wala kang expereince dito sa australia. Employment ay very slim to impossible. Kaya dapat magaral ka dito ng graduate entry in nursing para maconvert and philippines nursing licence. Tapos mag pumasa ka dapat ng IELTS or OET taken here in Australia hindi dyan sa philippines not counted yan. Pag nakapasa ka apply ka ng licence mo sa AHPRA. Then mag- apply ka ng internship called TPPP/GNP sa website above. Now sa private sector hindi ko alam ang process ng employment/hiring ay direct.

Since I am working as tutor in universities meron din akong na-memeet na filipino students. Ngayong third year na sila nararamdaman na nila ang hirap mag hanap ng permanent job here kasi priority ay mga local nurses. Mahirap na ring maghanap ng BGP/TPPP positions kasi sa dami ng nagaapply ng nursing wala nang job.

So if you are going via an agency sasabihin nila na may trabaho sa adelaide. Meron nga pero likely sa mga local students. Try to challenge the agency in writing na may trabaho sa Adelaide 100% hindi nila guarantee ito.

Hindi kita tinatakot kabayan, pero you are always welcome to come here. Yung nga you have to prepare yourself na it is a costly and longterm way ito. Ayaw ko na punta ka dito then you felt nasayang lang. Naawa nga ako sa mga filo nurse student na hirap maghanap ng trabaho. Mag-research ka, huwag kang makinig sa mga taong walang alam o hindi nakatira dito sa adeliade. Maghanap ka ng blog na may mga previous nursing student sa Adelaide.

Currenlty ang government ng South Australia ay may malaking project sa health sector called "Transforming Health" google mo. Ang aim itong project na ito ay 3 major hospital na ang magooperate sa Metro Adelaide. So that means yung 3-4 other major hospital will stop providing tertiray health care. Ang magiging function ng mga 3-4 hospital na ito ay either rehab, holding place sa mga patient na naghahantay ng nursing homes etc. Kaya maraming staff ang mawawalan ng trabaho plus ang mga current casual staff. Huwag ka ring maniwala sa mga poster na may picture na new royal adelaide hospital nag currenlty recruit kasi hindi totoo ito. Nasa media nga namin ito at naglabas ng memo ang big boss namin na "this is not the case".

Kaya maraming filo student ang nag-aaral dito sa Adelaide kasi mura ang way of living at maliit lang na city ito.

Good luck

jwillboi

Wow Very informative! Salamat sa mataas mong sulat heheh Kong sa bagay na bigyan mo ako ng Light sa madilim na ideas tungkol sa nursing dyan sa Adelaide.

What area ka nag trabaho sa Royal Adelaide po? is it only Royal Adelaide ang public hospitals diyan? i think yan po ang pinaka Malaki na hospital sa Adelaide.

So in other words, regarding sa Agency, not all advertisement are 100% true and in fact if you take it, its your risk of doing it. But kong makuha ka nmn, (kong swertehin) sigurado po bang sa Royal Adelaide ka mag work or Fraud talaga yong advertisement nila? kahit part time lang? or Anong makukuha naman nila sa akin po? usually wla nmn bayad pag under ka sa agency nag apply?

Ano ibig sabiihin ng BGP/TPPP po?

Yes mejo mahirapn ako pag direct Overseas, paano po if galing nang ibang bansa po experience as a nurse, counted po ba yun? Most likely, i will still need to undergo the education diyan...


Salamat talaga kabayan

Bahay Kubo

Hi Kabayan,

Oo sa RAH mainly ako nagtratrabaho. Nag agency din ako for 2 years para ma feel ko rin and ibang hospital (private man or public).

3 major hospital in the future at least by (?)2017
Royal Adelaide Hospital
Flinders Public Hospital
Lyell McEwin Hospital

Currently offering tertiary health (means may ED, ICU and specialties) care but will be closed or converted to rehab or holding facility
The Queen Elizabeth Hospital
Modbury public hospital
Hampstead Rehabilitation Centre
Repat Hospital

Will Remain operational
Glenside Hospital (Mental hospital)
Women's and Children Hospital (mother and children hospital)

In regards to agency yes true ->take it at your own risk. Mga filo student dito galit sa mga agency kais promise dito promise dun.

Ito ang truth walang direct hiring na sa ANY public hospital you have to apply via website na binigay ko. That is kung hiring sila. Kasi sa website kung walang advert walang hiring. But in yor case I am not sure. Just based sa mga tinuturuan kung filo di to sa Flinders University and University of South Australia sabi ng mga filo students (who are mostly also nurses back in the philippines "requirements to study first in Australia before you can register to practice". So I assume in Adelaide at least walang direct hiring from philippines. Pero kung galing kang england and scotland madali ka makapasok dito sa australia. Direct hiring is possible.

Ang internship dito ang tawag nun ay GNP-Graduate Nurse Program. Ngayon ang tawag ay TPPP (Transisition to Professsional Practice Program). Same thing abbreviation lang ang pinagkaiba.

jwillboi

Thank you Kabayan...Very informative. So in terms of working po, ano maganda public or private hospital? Ano maganda benefits? The disadvantages po?

I see..now i understand. I can see, marami sigurong agencies making false promises sa mga nurses na galing Philippines. And when they arrived there, mukhang mahihirapan kasi you will still need to take their bridging program, etc.

Salamat Kabayan. Saludo.

ICU ka nag work sa RAH kabayan? hehe

Bahay Kubo

Hello Kabayan,


Hindi lang filo students ang nana-lure from false hope. Mga chinese students din victims sila ng mapasamantalang agents.

Private and public hospital is more of personal choice. It my line of work ito ang so far nalaman ko in regards to working public and private hospitals.

May difference in a way. Now hindi ako nagwork directly under private sector. Nagwork ako sa mga ilang naming private hospital dito under nursing agency (Ashford, Wakefield, St Andrew's and Burnside hospitals.

Pay wise in general slightly better and pay ng public - at least in my calculation $2000/annum more than private. Sick leave mas marami ang public. May mga private hospital na sinasabing other benefits pero I didn't explore that more. Maternity leave mas generous and public. May difference ng kunti sa superannuation.

Salary sacrifice benefits mas generous ang private kaysa public hospital.

Workwise:

Mas busy ang public health sector kasi nga libre and hospital dito as long as you're a medicare card holder. In general ang public ED hospital ay open 24 hours vs private which mostly closes at 11pm. Also those patient with private health care insurances goes to the public kasi karamihan ng ED admissions ay after-hours ng private hospitals.

Sa ward level mas maganda maliit ang patient to nurse ratio ang public hospital. But in private karamihan ng patient mo ay independent-naglalakad, self cares. Sa public medyo mahirap heavy karamihan dependent patients galing mga nursing homes especially medical wards. Kasi mahal mag private hospital dito.

Now mga mental health patients na-aadmit sila under public than private hospital kahit may insurance sila. Kasi most of these patients kung maadmit ay potential for physical and verbal abuses to health staff lalo na kung may drug related ito. Kailangan nila ng security guard na magbantay or extra special 1:1 nurse to control patient ftom lashing out or escaping the hospital. Ngayon sa private ang explanation sa akin ay kaya hindi sila "daw" nagtatangap ng patient ay dahil aggressive sila, private insurance do not have cover security guard for obvious reason, private hospital not equip to deal with these type of patients. Private patients are nice if you look after them very well. But they can get into nasty mode if expectations were not met. They can say as simple as "I am paying for you to do your job".

In ICU, well mostly sa public ICU mixed and cause and age group. Sa Private hospital karamihan ay mga expected na ma-end sa ICU gaya ng high risk post surgery - so kailangan ng close monitoring.

In private hospital if your patient suddenly gets unwell "crashed" nurses have to call anon-call doctor and received instruction from the doctor. PAtient will not get to see a doctor in about at least 1 hour in my experience. So as a nurse you have to keep patient stable while you wait for the doctor. Sa Public hospitals, doctors are 24 hours although not the patient's usual doctor but at least treatment is not delayed.

Of course it is expected that you accept that working in Private hospital can be a bit business orientated.


Others:

Kung magtrabaho ka sa public sector at wishmong lumipat sa ibang public hospital ma-carry out ang mga benefits mo (ie: sick leave, annual leave etc). Sa private you have to ensure that yung hospital na lilipatan mo belongs to the same company.



Ok Kabayan I hope that I didn't scare you off again. Disclosure lang na above information are based on my experiences. You still have to do your research. But in terms of job hunting I will not be bother choosing private vs public. Basta kung sino ang naghihire apply ASAP. You can go to the hospital you wish to work later. Ang importante may-trabaho ka kaagad.


Bahay Kubo

jwillboi

Thanks Kabayan @Bahay Kubo ... Dami mong nabigay sa akin kabayan. Salamt sa Dios at napaliwanag mo tong lahat sa akin. Papalain ka sa Dios.


One last thing, ilan ba pwede na absences/sick leave and pwede sa Private at public hospitals? At ilan din and pwede na allowed in a year na Annual Leave? Maternity leave sa OZ how many weeks? Same lang ba sa ibang state din cyan sa OZ like Victoria, NSW, SA, etc?

Also, ano bang nurses organization ninyu dyan? pam pamatay sa Bullying? lols worth it ba?

O:-) O:-) O:-)

Bahay Kubo

In general

Kung full-time ka permanent (hindi casual).

Sick leave ay 15 days per year (but it some employer award you 1.2 days sick leave after your one month of continous work).
Annual leave 6 weeks (30days) awarded annually.
Long service leave 3 months (after 10 years continous of service in a public hospital)

jwillboi

@Bahay Kubo Thanks po kabayan.