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Work Experience is not related to my Qualification (Degree Course)

lalalala AucklandPosts: 9Member
edited January 2017 in Working and skilled visas
Hi Guys,
Scenario:
Qualification: BS Chemical Engineering
Nominated Occupation: Chemical Engineering
Work Experience (8 years) , Year 1-3, related sa Chem Eng, Year 4-8 related to Financial Sector.

I have read kasi in a post (2011) na may ganto.

"DIAC requires 12 months relevant work experience out of last 24 months in your nominated occupation if you are skilled sponsored visa and 36 months relevant experience out of last 48 months if you apply for skilled independent visa."

Is this still true today?

Comments

  • fgsfgs Cooper Basin
    Posts: 1,161Member
    Joined: Nov 12, 2013
    You should nominate an occupation wherein you can get a positive assessment. In your case, it should be the one related to financial sector( dahil sya ang most current).Refer to the requirements of your assessing body. You can get a positive skills assessment even if your qualification is different from your nominated occupation. Assessing bodies usually requires a minimum number of work experience related to that occupation before considering you as skilled in that occupation. The immigration department will award points to qualifications and work experience separately(related or not). You can only claim points equivalent to 5 years sa work experience or it depends how your assessing body will determine when you were really deemed skilled in your nominated occupation( usually they will deduct number of years...i.e 2 years deduction, you can only claim equivalent points on 3 years work experience). Your first goal is to get a positive skills assessment. Immigration department will rely on the outcome of your skills assessment in awarding points on work experience.
  • lalalala Auckland
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    fgs said:

    You should nominate an occupation wherein you can get a positive assessment. In your case, it should be the one related to financial sector( dahil sya ang most current).Refer to the requirements of your assessing body. You can get a positive skills assessment even if your qualification is different from your nominated occupation. Assessing bodies usually requires a minimum number of work experience related to that occupation before considering you as skilled in that occupation. The immigration department will award points to qualifications and work experience separately(related or not). You can only claim points equivalent to 5 years sa work experience or it depends how your assessing body will determine when you were really deemed skilled in your nominated occupation( usually they will deduct number of years...i.e 2 years deduction, you can only claim equivalent points on 3 years work experience). Your first goal is to get a positive skills assessment. Immigration department will rely on the outcome of your skills assessment in awarding points on work experience.

    Thanks for your thoughts, but I'm thinking na mas mataas ang chance for an invite (advance thinking) if ang nominated occupation is Chem Engg.

    Guys, if you have other views please let me know so i can weigh the chances.

    Thank you ulit fgs.
  • magueromaguero Adelaide
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    @lala Tama si @fgs first goal talaga na makakuha ng positive skills assessment. Otherwise, you won't be qualified for migration.

    Ang suggestion ko, i-compare mo yung skills na kailangan for both Chem Engg and yung occupation na pwede mo inominate for your job sa financial sector. Tapos alamin mo kung ano ang assessment body for each of those two occupations and kung ano-ano requirements nila for assessment.

    From there magdecide ka kung sa aling occupation ka makakakuha ng positive assessment and saan mas malaki ang chance na makakuha ka ng points for work experience.

    2 cents ko.
  • fgsfgs Cooper Basin
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    @lala I doubt makakuha ka ng positive skills assessment as ChemEng...you should be I. Skilled occupation prior to applying
  • rich88rich88 Quezon City
    Posts: 1,022Member
    Joined: Feb 26, 2016
    edited January 2017
    @lala IMO, kahit na mabigyan ka ng positive assessment ng EA for your education, baka magkaproblema ka pag na-invite ka as chem eng.

    Kahit na hindi ka mag claim ng work experience, kelangan mong i-declare lahat ng work experiences mo from the day you graduate up to present. Makikita ng DIBP na ang most recent work experience mo is sa financials, pero chem eng ang nominated experience mo.

    If hindi mo naman idedeclare yung financial work experience mo, makwe-question naman yung employment gap. Baka ma-reject lang yung application mo at masasayang yung visa application fee.

    Tama sila na mas ok kung makahanap ka ng nominated occupation na related sa financial field kung san ka currently employed.

    Timeline
    01-Apr-16 - PTE-A Exam Result
    08-Jul-16 - ACS Result + EOI submission (65 @ 189, 70 @ 190)
    29-July-16 - Received invitation to apply for NSW SS
    10-Aug-16 - ITA received
    25-Aug-16 - Lodged Visa 190 (all applicable documents uploaded)
    20-Sep-16 - Visa Grant (Thank you Lord...)

    IED: March 2017

  • tweety11tweety11 Singapore
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    Correct me if Im wrong, pero ang pagkakaintindi ko pwede gamitin any experience within the last 10years. So in lala's case, pwede pa din sya for Chem Engg, no points nga lang for experience. Possible ba maging positive assessment kahit super layo ng experience sa education?

    233211 Civil Engineer

    08 Oct 16 IELTS Exam (LRW)
    10 Oct 16 IELTS Exam (S)
    31 Oct 16 Submitted EA assessment (fast track)
    18 Nov 16 EA outcome, EOI submitted
    23 Nov 16 ITA received
    07 Jan 17 Visa 189 lodged
    30 Jan 17 Direct Grant :)

  • ynnozkiynnozki Melby
    Posts: 292Member
    Joined: Apr 12, 2013
    tweety11 said:

    Correct me if Im wrong, pero ang pagkakaintindi ko pwede gamitin any experience within the last 10years. So in lala's case, pwede pa din sya for Chem Engg, no points nga lang for experience. Possible ba maging positive assessment kahit super layo ng experience sa education?

    as per my understanding sa requirement ng (EA or DIBP) you should be atleast in your nominated occupation in the last 3 years para makakuha ka ng positive assessment. remember yung validity ng most skilled assesment is only 3 years? in @lala 's case, mas mahaba pa yung experience nya sa financial sector at 5 years and it is the current occupation. although mas mahirap yung way na financial sector ang inominate nya, but i think it is more favorable na makakuha sya dito ng positive assesment

    312511 Mechanical Engineering Draftsperson

    05/06/13--ielts exam BC (LRWS=6.5)
    06/20/13--submitted documents to TRA, 07/31/13--TRA Result Unsuccesful
    07/27/13-- me and wife ielts exam IDP (still zero points)
    08/23/13--submitted new TRA docs, 10/10/13--result succesful
    10/26/13-3rd take ielts BC (LRS=7, W6.5)
    11/10/13-EOI submitted, SA SS application submitted--deffered
    10/06/15-CDR result succesful
    12/08/15- PTE result L76/R79/S86/W74
    01/29/16- Victoria SS --denied
    08/08/16- submitted new Victoria SS application
    09/23/16- ITA received
    10/31/16- lodge Visa 190
    12/02/16- DG baby...thank you Lord..long journey reached the visa finish line

  • tweety11tweety11 Singapore
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    Joined: Sep 07, 2016
    @ynnozki may ganung rule pala sa EA? Kailangang nasa nominated occupation for the last 3years. Baka di ko lang nabasa hehe. Saang section yun?

    233211 Civil Engineer

    08 Oct 16 IELTS Exam (LRW)
    10 Oct 16 IELTS Exam (S)
    31 Oct 16 Submitted EA assessment (fast track)
    18 Nov 16 EA outcome, EOI submitted
    23 Nov 16 ITA received
    07 Jan 17 Visa 189 lodged
    30 Jan 17 Direct Grant :)

  • ynnozkiynnozki Melby
    Posts: 292Member
    Joined: Apr 12, 2013
    edited January 2017
    tweety11 said:

    @ynnozki may ganung rule pala sa EA? Kailangang nasa nominated occupation for the last 3years. Baka di ko lang nabasa hehe. Saang section yun?

    not sure kung saan ko nabasa yun dati, binalikan ko nga yung EA msa booklet, pero wala dun...i'll try to search again sa other sections...maybe mali intindi ko, or mali infong naalala ko

    312511 Mechanical Engineering Draftsperson

    05/06/13--ielts exam BC (LRWS=6.5)
    06/20/13--submitted documents to TRA, 07/31/13--TRA Result Unsuccesful
    07/27/13-- me and wife ielts exam IDP (still zero points)
    08/23/13--submitted new TRA docs, 10/10/13--result succesful
    10/26/13-3rd take ielts BC (LRS=7, W6.5)
    11/10/13-EOI submitted, SA SS application submitted--deffered
    10/06/15-CDR result succesful
    12/08/15- PTE result L76/R79/S86/W74
    01/29/16- Victoria SS --denied
    08/08/16- submitted new Victoria SS application
    09/23/16- ITA received
    10/31/16- lodge Visa 190
    12/02/16- DG baby...thank you Lord..long journey reached the visa finish line

  • tweety11tweety11 Singapore
    Posts: 568Member
    Joined: Sep 07, 2016
    @ynnozki Nagbabago din kasi requirements eh. Baka dati meron ngang ganun. @lala better siguro kung cocontakin mo EA at magtanong about your case.

    233211 Civil Engineer

    08 Oct 16 IELTS Exam (LRW)
    10 Oct 16 IELTS Exam (S)
    31 Oct 16 Submitted EA assessment (fast track)
    18 Nov 16 EA outcome, EOI submitted
    23 Nov 16 ITA received
    07 Jan 17 Visa 189 lodged
    30 Jan 17 Direct Grant :)

  • ynnozkiynnozki Melby
    Posts: 292Member
    Joined: Apr 12, 2013
    @tweety11 sa TRA guidelines ko pala nabasa to, not sure kung yung ibang assesing agency specially EA will consider this guideline, though di ko to mahanap sa EA booklet.

    2.8.5 Employment for at least three years, with 12 months in the last
    three years
    To ensure that you have the skills and experience to meet the requirements of a
    skilled worker in an Australian workplace you are required to demonstrate that you
    have undertaken at least three years of employment at the skill level required for the
    occupation.
    To ensure that your skills are current, we require you to provide evidence that you
    have worked for 12 months at the required skill level in your occupation, or a closely
    related occupation where you are required to maintain your skill level for the
    nominated occupation, within the last three years.

    312511 Mechanical Engineering Draftsperson

    05/06/13--ielts exam BC (LRWS=6.5)
    06/20/13--submitted documents to TRA, 07/31/13--TRA Result Unsuccesful
    07/27/13-- me and wife ielts exam IDP (still zero points)
    08/23/13--submitted new TRA docs, 10/10/13--result succesful
    10/26/13-3rd take ielts BC (LRS=7, W6.5)
    11/10/13-EOI submitted, SA SS application submitted--deffered
    10/06/15-CDR result succesful
    12/08/15- PTE result L76/R79/S86/W74
    01/29/16- Victoria SS --denied
    08/08/16- submitted new Victoria SS application
    09/23/16- ITA received
    10/31/16- lodge Visa 190
    12/02/16- DG baby...thank you Lord..long journey reached the visa finish line

  • ynnozkiynnozki Melby
    Posts: 292Member
    Joined: Apr 12, 2013
    edited January 2017
    one more factor to consider, stated sa EA MSA booklet..
    5. The Report
    This section includes the Continuing Professional
    Development, three Career Episodes and Summary
    Statement.
    5.1 Identification of Continuing Professional
    Development:
    Continuing Professional Development (CPD) is the
    means by which you keep up-to-date with developments
    in your field of engineering after you have gained your
    undergraduate qualification
    .
    in @lala 's case, medyo malabo na sya sa CPD part na to, unless mayron sya papers to prove na updated pa rin sa Chemical engineering line.

    312511 Mechanical Engineering Draftsperson

    05/06/13--ielts exam BC (LRWS=6.5)
    06/20/13--submitted documents to TRA, 07/31/13--TRA Result Unsuccesful
    07/27/13-- me and wife ielts exam IDP (still zero points)
    08/23/13--submitted new TRA docs, 10/10/13--result succesful
    10/26/13-3rd take ielts BC (LRS=7, W6.5)
    11/10/13-EOI submitted, SA SS application submitted--deffered
    10/06/15-CDR result succesful
    12/08/15- PTE result L76/R79/S86/W74
    01/29/16- Victoria SS --denied
    08/08/16- submitted new Victoria SS application
    09/23/16- ITA received
    10/31/16- lodge Visa 190
    12/02/16- DG baby...thank you Lord..long journey reached the visa finish line

  • tweety11tweety11 Singapore
    Posts: 568Member
    Joined: Sep 07, 2016
    edited January 2017
    @ynnozki ah. Iba iba kasi requirement ng assessing bodies. In EA's case, di nga necessary na may work experience. For CPD, pwede gawan ng paraan hehe. Pwede iindicate dun na nakasubscribe sya sa newsletter about her profession, or any seminar. Di required ang certificate for CPD.

    233211 Civil Engineer

    08 Oct 16 IELTS Exam (LRW)
    10 Oct 16 IELTS Exam (S)
    31 Oct 16 Submitted EA assessment (fast track)
    18 Nov 16 EA outcome, EOI submitted
    23 Nov 16 ITA received
    07 Jan 17 Visa 189 lodged
    30 Jan 17 Direct Grant :)

  • lalalala Auckland
    Posts: 9Member
    Joined: Mar 05, 2015
    Thanks guys sa inputs. I'll try to touchbase NA rin to EA para malinawan. Salamat ulit!
  • KDOKaitKDOKait UAE
    Posts: 21Member
    Joined: Jul 15, 2018
    Good Day,

    Electronics Engineer (ECE) ako by degree, pero yung work experience ko is more on Cost Estimation/Budgeting/Planning in Manufacturing/Construction Companies (Mech, Oil & Gas at slight sa Electrical)

    Meron po ba sa inyo na medyo same case ng sa akin?

    Plan ko na kunin na occupation ay Production Engr.
    **since wala akong solid work experience sa field ng ECE (unfortunately)
    **mas suitable sana ako for Quantity Surveyor, pero AIQS requires degree din.
    **ok din sana ako sa Construction Estimator, pero limited yung states at visa na pwede sa kanya.

    What would be your advise? For those na may similar case sa akin, how did you accomplish your CDR?
  • GrifterGrifter Posts: 458Member
    Joined: Oct 19, 2016
    @KDOKait hello. meron ako kakilala na ece din, pero ang pina assess nya sa EA ay production engr since yun ang naging work experience nya. naging ok naman. that was 2017
  • JacrayeJacraye Sydney
    Posts: 272Member
    Joined: Mar 06, 2018

    @KDOKait said:

    Good Day,

    Electronics Engineer (ECE) ako by degree, pero yung work experience ko is more on Cost Estimation/Budgeting/Planning in Manufacturing/Construction Companies (Mech, Oil & Gas at slight sa Electrical)

    Meron po ba sa inyo na medyo same case ng sa akin?

    Plan ko na kunin na occupation ay Production Engr.
    **since wala akong solid work experience sa field ng ECE (unfortunately)
    **mas suitable sana ako for Quantity Surveyor, pero AIQS requires degree din.
    **ok din sana ako sa Construction Estimator, pero limited yung states at visa na pwede sa kanya.

    What would be your advise? For those na may similar case sa akin, how did you accomplish your CDR?

    I would suggest have your assessment with EA. Better ang chances mo dun

    ANZSCO 233213 Quantity Surveyor

  • KDOKaitKDOKait UAE
    Posts: 21Member
    Joined: Jul 15, 2018

    @Jacraye thanks, planning na to have assessment with EA, might be Prod Engr or Engineering Technologist siguro.

  • jobellajobella Posts: 2Member
    Joined: Nov 07, 2019

    Hi, I need help po sana to understand things. Bago bago palang po ako nagbabasa ng forum about skills assessment. My situation is, I'm a licensed ECE pero 8yrs sa IT ako nagwowork, 5 yrs as software engr and 3 yrs as IT project manager (current role). What would be needed for the assessment? Or meron po ba dito same case ko? Thanks in advancd po sa sasagot and sa support.

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