Architect - Applying as Architectural Draftsperson

engineer20

kpantig18 said:

The Statement of Service must include the following:

a) The company letterhead

b) Your full name

c) Position in the company, and whether the employment is / was on a full-time or part-time basis

d) The working hours per week

e) Your official position title (s) held at the organisation

f) The exact period of your employment in each position held

g) Details of your official main duties for each position held

h) The main five duties undertaken

i) The salary earned

j) A signature by the authorised person whose name and position are legible below the signature

k) Direct contact details of the authorised signatory.




Papaano po kapag meron na akong mga COE (kusa kasi nila binigay after employment) kaso hindi nakalagay yung
d) The working hours per week
g) Details of your official main duties for each position held
h) The main five duties undertaken

so ibig sabihin po invalid yung COE ko?

@kpantig18 either humingi ka ulit ng bagog COE or gumawa ka ng Statutory Declaration (Affidavit)

Luntian12

Hello @kpantig18 312111 din ang sa asawa ko.

With regards to your last question, like what @engineer20 mentioned, you may request for a new CoE na nakalagay lahat ng required information. Another option is gawa ka ng Statutory Declaration and pacertify mo sa Notary Public or Justice of Peace.

Yung 2 jobs ng asawa ko na pina-assess namin before, wala kaming detailed CoE kaya nag Statutory Declaration nalang kami dahil mahirap irequest galing sa Pinas, nagsara pa yung isang company.

kpantig18

@engineer20 @Luntian12 lets hope nalang po na pag nagrequest ako ng new COE from them eh pagbigyan ako with all the needed info. Hehe

Yun po bang ina-upload sa VETASSESS, scanned copy ng original, or scanned copy ng "certified true copy" ng files? medyo magulo po. Kasi sa FAQ nila ang sabi lang is

"If applying online, you'll need to upload and submit high quality colour scans of proof of identity, qualification and employment documents. If you're submitting the documents by mail, please provide high quality colour copies of the required documents along with the signed and completed application form."

Anino78

@kpantig18 kadalasan hindi nagbbigay ng panibagong COE mga kompanya unless kadikit mo ung HR or admin nyo. Lalo na sa malaking companya. Ung aknin sa P&T ilang beses ko in-email ung manager namin hindi ako pinapansin. kaya naasar ako gumawa na lng ako ng self stat declaration.

bago na yata vetassess ngayon. pwede na yata ang coloured scans lng. ung last year kasi kelangan ctc lahat ng issubmit na documents

malt

@kpantig18 if you are applying online, "NO NEED" na ipacertify ang scanned original colored documents. Pero kung pina photocopy mo ang documents mo need sya ipa certify true copy.

Advice lang din base sa experience namin nung nag pa assess kami sa Architectural draftsperson. 2 companies ang wala kami COE kasi hindi na namin malocate ang new office nila dahil almost decade na nakalipas, kaya nag gawa nalang kami ng Statutory Declaration. But after weeks nag email ang vetassess saying, Your statutory declaration is not suffice to get the positive result, please send COE of the following company..bla..bla..bla
So, no choice pa din kundi mag ala darna sa kakahanap. In God's grace na nakuha din kami

kpantig18

@Anino78 oo nga po mukhang hindi ako papansinin nung isang company lalo pa ngayon at nag change name na sila at nakipag merge sa iba. Aasa nalang muna ako pinoy naman yung HR don. haha. Papano po ba kumuha ng Statutory Declaration dito sa Singapore?

@malt opo nabasa ko din na kahit may Statutory Declaration hindi po yun sapat kasi kailangan nila ng proof of employment.

Mga COE nalang ang kulang ko at the moment to get my VETASSESS processed. Pray pray pray nalang muna

Luntian12

@kpantig18 yung sa CoE, if di mo masunod yung format, magStatDec ka nalang.

I'm not sure sa case ni @malt if purely stat dec and no other supporting docs kaya yun ang sabi ng vetassess. Nagsupporting docs po kayo?

For our case may statdec kami to explain na wala kami ng format na hinihingi nila pero inattach namin yung normal coe, payslips, sss contribution proof and employment contract. Nagpositive naman sa awa ng Diyos.

Hindi ako sure sa VETASSESS. Through agent kasi kami. Hindi ko na natanong kung pano ba niya kami ini-apply kasi lahat ng scanned colored copies ng docs namin pina-CTC ko then pinaFedEx sa address niya sa Canberra. If may online option, baka hindi na nga kailangan ipaCTC yung docs.

Luntian12

@kpantig18 gagawin mo yung stat dec then pupunta ka sa notary public dito sa Singapore. Kay Andrew Ee ako nagpunta para sa stat dec. $20 per page ang singil niya kapag stat dec. You have to be there personally kasi pipirmahan mo yun sa harap niya. His office is at The Adelphi sa may City Hall.

Dito sa Singapore yung di mo makuhang CoE format tama ba? Gawa ka statdec, attach ka din ng NoA (Notice of Assessment) mo from IRAS. Kung yung address sa NoA mo before eh sa address ng employer mo, better. How about payslips? May naitabi ka ba? Or any transaction sa bank account mo before na galing sa company nila yung pumasok na money sayo as payroll? Considered supporting docs siya.

Anino78

@kpantig18 Ung stat declaration kasi kailangan may naka-attach na supporting documents din un from you previous company like emloyment letter, letter ng mga increments, payslips etc...

kpantig18

Hayyy tama po kayo, hindi din sila nagbibigay ng COE with complete information kahit irequest mo pa. They just give you the standard format. Hayy. Can anyone share a copy of their stat dec, for my reference lang po please. [email protected] po email ko.

kpantig18

Sa March 2017 pa po kasi ako mag submit ng skills assessment sa VETASSESS, mag 4 years na akong nagwowork this March. Para in case daw na bawasan yung bilang ng work experience ko may chance parin na ma count yung 3 years.

Yung PRC license ko nag expire na February 2017 so question po, kailangan ko pa po ba mag renew ng PRC License? Or pwede ng patunay sa VETASSESS yung PRC Certificate ko na nagsasabi na Architect ako?

J_Ernest

@kpantig18 ang sabi sa Vetassess is "Please supply evidence of passing the Professional Regulation Commission’s Licensure Examinations". I think ok na yung Certificate from PRC. Stamped and sealed naman yun certificate.
Good luck sa atin!!!

J_Ernest

mga sir ask ko lang, for Vetassess, full skill assessment po ba dapat?
Thanks and God Bless.

malt

@J_Ernest yes sir full skills assessment po

hi po

Hello po mga sir and mam. I am very new in this forum. I have some worries about my submissions po.

My agent submitted my documents last nov 24 2016 for vetassess skill assessment ( draftsman) then got a reply last feb 2 requesting for payslip. Sent feb 7. While i am waiting, i stumbled upon this forum and realized so many things. Una worried ko po ay wlang pinasang statutory declaration ang agent ko. I asked them bkit di ngsubmit, sabi nila no need dhil di nman daw hiningi. Then i only gave them a simple coe(s) format stating my position, salary start and end date joined. Sabi po nila, inayos daw po nila job description ko then notarized by their lawyer. But im not sure about this.

Let say vetassess is not satisfied of what my agent submitted, let say particularly job description and coe, would they ask for a detail job description? Nkakaparanoid pla sobra ang pagaantay since last nov 24 pko ngsubmit. Hope you can advise me po. Salamat in advance

Xiaomau82

hi po said:

Hello po mga sir and mam. I am very new in this forum. I have some worries about my submissions po.



My agent submitted my documents last nov 24 2016 for vetassess skill assessment ( draftsman) then got a reply last feb 2 requesting for payslip. Sent feb 7. While i am waiting, i stumbled upon this forum and realized so many things. Una worried ko po ay wlang pinasang statutory declaration ang agent ko. I asked them bkit di ngsubmit, sabi nila no need dhil di nman daw hiningi. Then i only gave them a simple coe(s) format stating my position, salary start and end date joined. Sabi po nila, inayos daw po nila job description ko then notarized by their lawyer. But im not sure about this.



Let say vetassess is not satisfied of what my agent submitted, let say particularly job description and coe, would they ask for a detail job description? Nkakaparanoid pla sobra ang pagaantay since last nov 24 pko ngsubmit. Hope you can advise me po. Salamat in advance

roughly 3 months ang processingn g VETASSESS but since u submitted in Nov, may delay yan because of the holidays in Dec-Jan. VETASSESS requires job description, unless hindi kiniclaim ung work experience. I am thinking na baka nag attach lng ung agent mo ng job description. not sure how they do it though. Sino Ba agent mo? Pinas based ba?

hi po

@Xiaomau82 hello po. Yes pinas based. Ciniclaim ata ang work experience sa job Ko. More than 3 months na kasi since nov 24. And ngreply nong feb 2 asking for payslip submitted last feb 7. Nkakaworry lng how they did it

Xiaomau82

hi po said:

@Xiaomau82 hello po. Yes pinas based. Ciniclaim ata ang work experience sa job Ko. More than 3 months na kasi since nov 24. And ngreply nong feb 2 asking for payslip submitted last feb 7. Nkakaworry lng how they did it

actually mejo nakakaworry, maybe u can check with your agent anong klaseng adjustment ginawa nila. remember na submission of fraudulent docs will lead to rejection/

Son-of-Abraham

^ nakakabahala nga po yan kasi nauna pa kayo mag lodge sakin, in my case kasi lahat statutory declaration dahil generic lang lahat ng coe ko. Naglodge kami sa vetassess last 29-Dec-2016 and nakuha ko yung positive result netong 20-Feb-2017 lang.

bob88

Hi, I've been reading this post and the replies have been very helpful. Can somebody enlighten me with the following:

1) Job Title. Does my title in my COE have to match "Architectural Draftsperson" as stated in the CSOL? Kasi I worked as an "Architectural Assistant" sa SG but the tasks/duties are the same as Archi Draftsperson sa AU. Although pwede naman baguhin sa COE ko yung title to Archi Draftsperson (kasi good friends kami ng boss/ HR namin), pero I would prefer to have my declaration 100% accurate.

2) CoE. I worked in Dubai for a couple of years. However, yung company nadissolve na. There is literally no way for me to obtain my payslips/ statements/etc. I do have a copy of my Employment Offer Letter and an old Employment Certificate from that company pero kulang sa info na hinihingi ng VETASSESS. Should I omit this on my declaration of work experience?

kpantig18

@J_Ernest Good luck din po!

Xiaomau82

bob88 said:

Hi, I've been reading this post and the replies have been very helpful. Can somebody enlighten me with the following:

1) Job Title. Does my title in my COE have to match "Architectural Draftsperson" as stated in the CSOL? Kasi I worked as an "Architectural Assistant" sa SG but the tasks/duties are the same as Archi Draftsperson sa AU. Although pwede naman baguhin sa COE ko yung title to Archi Draftsperson (kasi good friends kami ng boss/ HR namin), pero I would prefer to have my declaration 100% accurate.

2) CoE. I worked in Dubai for a couple of years. However, yung company nadissolve na. There is literally no way for me to obtain my payslips/ statements/etc. I do have a copy of my Employment Offer Letter and an old Employment Certificate from that company pero kulang sa info na hinihingi ng VETASSESS. Should I omit this on my declaration of work experience?

1. Architectural assistant is fine, make sure na consistent with the employer reference letter.
2. Can you get employer reference letter with detailed job description from any of your former colleague? If yes, then u can still include it but if not, you can opt not to claim points for this employment.

engineer20

bob88 said:

Hi, I've been reading this post and the replies have been very helpful. Can somebody enlighten me with the following:

1) Job Title. Does my title in my COE have to match "Architectural Draftsperson" as stated in the CSOL? Kasi I worked as an "Architectural Assistant" sa SG but the tasks/duties are the same as Archi Draftsperson sa AU. Although pwede naman baguhin sa COE ko yung title to Archi Draftsperson (kasi good friends kami ng boss/ HR namin), pero I would prefer to have my declaration 100% accurate.

2) CoE. I worked in Dubai for a couple of years. However, yung company nadissolve na. There is literally no way for me to obtain my payslips/ statements/etc. I do have a copy of my Employment Offer Letter and an old Employment Certificate from that company pero kulang sa info na hinihingi ng VETASSESS. Should I omit this on my declaration of work experience?

@bob88 for Q2: you can submit copies of your offer letter, contract, employment cert, UAE visa and gawa ka self statutory declaration for job description as supporting docs. isama mo na sa submission sa vetasses and let them evaluate kung pwede o hindi.

pvitto0420

applying for an architect in australia and nag submit n ako ng documents sa AACA. madami akong nababasa n negative assessment... may nag try n b na magsubmit sa AACA?

Xiaomau82

pvitto0420 said:

applying for an architect in australia and nag submit n ako ng documents sa AACA. madami akong nababasa n negative assessment... may nag try n b na magsubmit sa AACA?

afaik hindi recognised ang education for architecture sa pinas kaya mataas ung risk of having negative assessment. y not apply as architectural draftsperson, then once granted visa, u can still pursue your registration/licensing with AACA and work as architect in Au

pvitto0420

@Xiaomau82 thanks for the reply! Pagsabayain ko nalang assessment ng Vetasses at ng AACA...nakapag submit n kase ako sa AACA e.

Xiaomau82

pvitto0420 said:

@Xiaomau82 thanks for the reply! Pagsabayain ko nalang assessment ng Vetasses at ng AACA...nakapag submit n kase ako sa AACA e.

well pwede namn. mas ok kun masubmit mo asap ung sa vetassess para once may nag open na state sponsoring draftsperson e may skills assessment ka na.

pvitto0420

Salamat @Xiaomau82

Xiaomau82

pvitto0420 said:

Salamat @Xiaomau82

no worries

bob88

Salamat sa mga responses. I decided to exclude my Dubai experience sa application ko. Instead of getting max points for overseas experience, I will settle for 5 years na lang pare less hassle magcompile ng documents.

Regarding payslips:

I have 3-4 payslips from each year I have worked with my company.
Kaso black and white lang. Pag magpapasa ba sa Vetassess kelangan CTC lahat yung payslips? Kasi medyo magastos. Yung iba kong documents colored originals naman kaya no need CTC. Sa SG around $40 yung isang page, around 24 payslips meron ako. Almost 1k para sa payslips lang.