External Auditors

catajell · June 2014

Hello po! Sa mga external auditors, dito tayo!

Madami po ako questions, share na lang yung mga may same experience please ha?

- Anong state ang the best for external audit jobs?
- When is the best time/month to apply?
- Is it possible to land a job kahit wala pa sa AU mismo (provided na PR na)
- How is the working environment in AU?
- What is the normal salary range? Nakakaipon ba?
- Nagpademote ba kayo from your current position?
- Pwede ba magparefer? Hehe..

Salamat ng madami!

catajell · June 2014

Wala nagcocomment.. mga busy talaga mga auditors! lol

Bigfoot · July 2014

Hi @catajell, for external auditors usually ang work is in Sydney and Melbourne. I think bawat isang nandito iba iba ang pinagadaanan, wag masyado manang-up sa ibang bagay I think importante makakuha muna ng visa then easier na magapply pero meron din kasi andito na 456 visa straight from Phil. About sweldo and ipon depende din kasi expect na downgraded ka dito for at least one level kahit na same firm ka galing overseas kasi titingnan din kung paano ka magadjust sa local culture. Kung galing ka Phil definitely super upgrade ang sahod. Ipon depende sa tao may mga Experienced Analyst dito na mas marami ipon sa Manager kasi magkaiba lifestyle. I know this is not very useful

catajell · July 2014

Hi @Bigfoot , on the contrary, this is very useful! Salamat!

Right now, may visa na kami and nag-aapply na rin online. Hoping na sana makaland ng job even before makarating dyan. Gusto lang namin makahingi ng konting info/background para alam namin ang pinapasok namin and to manage our expectations.

Sabagay, hindi naman na consideration ang sweldo gano kasi coming from SG (stressful na buhay), gusto lang namin ng better quality of life.

Salamat sa answer kung anong state kasi dito kami medyo confused e. Since visa 189 kami at dahil wala naman kami kamag-anak dun, kahit saang state kami pwede pag nagkataon. S dapat, makachoose talaga kami wisely.

Thank you uli! Akala ko wala nang papansin e.. hehe

TasBurrfoot · July 2014

Hello auditors; our company is hiring a few internal auditors, this is a US-firm which a business in consultancy - the opening is in Melbourne.

Those with relevant experience, feel free to give me a buzz..

oz_monster · July 2014

@catajell hey there. To answer your questions..

1. All of the states here have chartered accounting firms (big 4, mid-tier, botique firms) which have external audit. Sydney and Melby are the two big cities, if you are going to apply on those two states, expect a massive competition. The current job market in Victoria and in Australia is not that great, I would suggest for you to try in Brissie. If you are currently working in one of the big 4,maybe you can ask for a transfer or apply to the same firm here. Also, take note that most accounting firms here are chartered firms meaning they require someone who is a fully qualified CA (chartered accountant). Also note that our Philippine CPA is NOT recognised in Australia.

2. Best month would be before the financial year end around May. End of year is June 30.

3. Most companies hire third party recruiters/head hunters to do the recruitment. Based on my knowledge and reality, most company/recruiters require you to be physically present in Australia for interviews. Landing a job prior to coming here is less likely to happen especially for Accountants/Auditors because so many migrants here in that field. They can easily hire someone locally or onshore rather than hiring someone overseas.

4. Working environment in accounting firm or normal corporate environment? Remember that here in Australia, work and life balance is important to everyone. Corporate environment is relax. For firms, they work long hours but not as odd like in the Philippines or SG I reckon.

5. Salary range varies depending upon your level and state. Check seek.com sometimes they post salary ranges but then again, accounting firms usually give slightly lower salaries but should be higher compared to SG I suppose.

6. Most people I know landed in a lower level considering they are not qualified accountants here yet (some of them thought our CPA is recognised here but it is not). Remember that the environment here is different and it is quite common for all migrants to downgrade their job level just to keep the ground running.

Be prepared to do non-audit job and please bear in mind that there are heaps of accountants here so competition is very high.

Hope this one helps!

Cheers!

catajell · July 2014

Thanks @Tasburrfoot for the job opportunity!

I will let my IA friends know..

Bigfoot · July 2014

Just to include to the tips mentioned above. Since ang prinoproblema ng halos lahat ng migrants when looking for a job is local experience, it is advised that all overseas references are taken out from the CV or Cover Letter. In the Cover Letter, discuss your skills and experiences that match the employer requirements. Huwag na banggitin kung saang bansa mo ginawa ang work. Then on the first page of the CV, just highlight your skills and characteristics that is required for the job. For work experience, just put the name of the Company, date you worked there, and a brief summary of work performed. Again Sa summary dapat closely related or exacto dun sa job description ng advertised job. There is no need to put the country where your previous company was located!

For references, it is advised that these should be located in AU. If this is not possible, just leave it out. They will ask for it once your application is successful.

It's also advised for those with foreign sounding names to tweak your name into a more Aussie friendly name. This will make it easier for your prospective company. Take note that your CV is not a legal document that requires your full, legal name. Even Aussies tweak their name as and when necessary.

Lastly, roads in the Phil, Singapore, Saudi, Australia are all the same. There are only differences in safety and regulatory requirements. Same is true for accountants, MYOB, JD Edwards, Etc are the same all over the world kaya there is no reason why your overseas skills are not transferable to AU.

Cheers!

catajell · August 2014

Thanks @oz_monster for your detailed answers!

Growing nga daw ang Brisbane ngayon. We mights as well try there.

@Bigfoot , nakakatuwa ang tips mo! Sobrang unique but makes sense talaga especially on the countries. We will try these as well!

aristle · August 2014

Hello! I just recently got my PR visa and be going to Sydney 4th week of October. I have external auditing experience in Singapore but till now still nahihirapan paghananp ng work. Some are rejections, some sabi contact kapag nasa sydney na..mostly rejections..Baka po may opening dyan sa firm ninyo parefer sana ako

catajell · August 2014

Hi @aristle , so far, kami din, wala pa nahahanap na work offshore. Mas preferred daw nila na andun na mismo. See you in Sydney!

Sana di tayo mahirapan makahanap ng work despite the fact na hindi na hiring season pagdating natin dun in October.

aristle · August 2014

@catajell kelan ka sa Sydney? Ako last week october. Oo nga nagaapply apply ako rejections naman at may isa dalawa lang ngtanong kung nasa sydney naba ako. Despite may Sg experence na hirap parin makahanap nu. Sa Sg karin manggaling?

aristle · August 2014

Dibale apply apply lang. Keep the faith

catajell · August 2014

@aristle Sa first week of October ang lipad namin, eto nagpapabook pa lang kami ng ticket! hehe.. Actually, hubby ko lang nag-aapply kasi balak ko magchange career! Haha.. Madami na din tumawag sa kanya pero gusto dati immediate start ng August kasi peak period nila yun e. Kaso kasi nagresign kami sa work nung July 21 lang and umuwi kami Pinas (currently) para makapagpahinga for 2 months. Meron pa nga referral din, kaso mas ok daw na andun na talaga. Tapos yung mga recruiter naman, contakin na lang daw sila pag andun na kami sa AU. So sana talaga, madami pa din opening by October..

aristle · August 2014

PArrho kayong external auditor ni hubby sa SG? Ako din gusto ko nanga magchange ng career but no choice ksi im an auditor althrough out sa career ko. Cguro if makanahanp ng audit job after a year or two change na sa accountant para di na ganun ka busy. Yup i agree most of the job postings are immediate.

catajell · August 2014

Oo, pareho kaming external auditor. Siya, sobrang saya sa career, ako, gusto ko nang mag-iba talaga! haha.. Kaya nag-aaral ako ng kung ano-anong lutuin na pwede ibusiness sa Australia para di na sana ako magwork. Pero if no choice talaga, willing pa naman ako bumalik sa audit kahit na pansamantala muna habang wala pang baby..

Sabi nila dapat dapat daw pagpunta ng AU, wag tayo maging choosy, kaya siguro dapat open na lang tayo at ready sa kahit anong opportunity na dumating!

God bless satin at see you there!

catajell · August 2014

@aristle OT: Nakabook ka na ba ng ticket to Sydney?

aristle · August 2014

Meron na qantas sa Sg manggaling.

Bigfoot · August 2014

Guys, peak pa rin ng hiring ng audit firms by October kasi half year audit is January. Sobrang biyaya kung makakakuha ng audit work while outside of Australia, take this time to prepare your CVs and Cover Letters up to Aussie standard para pagdating dito e konting tweaks na lang every time applying for a job opening. Also, we take volunteerism too lightly pero malaking tulong sya dito sa AU. I suggest that you make it one of your priority once you arrive. This is one of the ways to broaden your networks. Madami kayo mamimeet na volunteers who can refer you to unpublished job openings. God bless!

aristle · August 2014

@bigfoot how to be a volunteer po? I'll try my luck first if wala talaga magvolunteer muna.

ImB · August 2014

Ayos, meron pala nito

@catajell, buti na lang gumawa ng sariling thread para sa external auditors, interested din ako. Wala akong makita masyadong EA dito sa forum parang kakaunti lang hehehe.

@catajell, if you dont mind me asking saang audit firm ka sa SG at ilang years ka na?

Ako kasi antagal kong nag audit, kakalaya pa lang hehehe

ImB · August 2014

Sa mga external auditors po...matagal ba kayo bago nakakuha ng work dyan sa OZ?

Kung papalarin, target ko po kasi makapasok ulit sa Big 4 pero kung mahirap kahit saan na lang

TasBurrfoot · August 2014

I know some people here in Melbourne, they were able to get work within 3 months... Big 4 pa sila mag-asawa; Deloitte and PWC - they got Big 4 experience previously outside PH so that might have helped.

ImB · August 2014

@TasBurrfoot ganun po ba. Galing naman nila. Siguro nga nakatulong din yung experience nila outside PH. Mukhang 3 months nga po talaga ang average job junting time dyan.

Ako po kasi majority ng experience ko eh sa abroad din (Dubai) at sana makapasok ulit sa Big 4 pero sa OZ naman

wendz · August 2014

@TasBurrfoot
Hi! I just read your post on Internal audit vacancy. I'm waiting for the result of my 189 visa app. I lodged the application last july 1, wala pang CO. Internal auditor ang profession ko na inapply but i'm currently working as a Risk Officer in one of the banks here in the Phils. Sana meron pa kayong vacancy when I go there hehe. :-)

TasBurrfoot · August 2014

@TasBurrfoot
Hi! I just read your post on Internal audit vacancy. I'm waiting for the result of my 189 visa app. I lodged the application last july 1, wala pang CO. Internal auditor ang profession ko na inapply but i'm currently working as a Risk Officer in one of the banks here in the Phils. Sana meron pa kayong vacancy when I go there hehe. :-)

Goodluck!

catajell · August 2014

@Bigfoot Wow, that's good news na hiring pa din by October!

Sana makahanap kami agad ni @aristle ! Pano po ba ang process sa pagvolunteer? Search ka lang then pakita ka dun tapos ok na? Sorry, gusto ko syang mapicture out clearly kasi andami na din nagsusuggest dito sa forum. TIA!

catajell · August 2014

Hi @ImB ! Feeling ko madami naman lurker dito na EA, hindi lang gano active.. Iniisip ko nga baka busy! Lol

Naku baka mahulaan mo kung sino ako pag sinabi ko firm ko! Haha.. Mid-tier firm based in France ako for 4 years then SGV sa Pinas for 2 years. Hubby ko same firm sa SG then PWC sa Pinas. Gusto ko na nga din totally lumaya pero bahala na pagdating sa Sydney.. Hehe..

aristle · August 2014

Ako naman ayaw na ng bigfour hehhee priorities have changed..kung pwede financial accountant na or audit s mid or small firm lang..i dont wanna be stressed..pleassseee lang hehehe

aristle · August 2014

Pero since first time sa aussie whatever job, what comes first yun na yun saka na mgiisip. Fight lng ng fight!

ImB · August 2014

@catajell hehe hindi naman siguro at madami naman tayo, tsaka malamang ahead ako sayo. PwC pala si mister mo, me mga kilala pa ko dun. Buti ka pa approved na visa mo, ako papa assess pa lang sa CPA AU next week.

Teka bakit pala Accountant ang nominated occupation mo hindi EA?

Bago pa lang ako sa finance pero since 8 yrs ako nag audit, EA ang ni-nominate ko.