Stop bringing the unpleasant Filipino habits to Australia

mhej · August 2014

Hi Guys. Just want to vent out and probably create a forum for discussion on the unpleasant Filipino habits that are still being exhibited here in Australia after migration.

Just tonight, my partner, who works part time at Ribs and Burgers in Rhodes Shopping Center experienced 2 tables of horrible customers, both Filipinos.

Table 1: Customer complaining about undercooked burger when there was barely a bite left to complain about.
What does this say about Filipinos: Na Patay Gutom po tayo. Nakakahiya at nakakagalit. In fact, this is not the first time I have heard of this happening first hand. Just last Sunday, while eating at Mcdonald's in Goulburn, I overheard a Filipina on the table, loudly bemoaning that the burger she was eating was not the one she ordered. When her companions told her to take the burger to the counter, ang sabi ba naman, "Tsaka na, kapag kalahati na.". I wanted to slap her right then and there.

Table 2: Girl kept asking for water to be served on their table and my partner had been explaining that water is self service (girl was literally sitting in front of the water service station). She said she'd go to the manager because my partner was not serving her right. Her man, not a filipino apologised to my partner and got the water himself.
What does this say about Filipinos: Two-fold, 1) We are illiterate. 2) We are invalids.

These two examples are prevalent in the Philippines. And in some way, even condoned. But we are now in a different country. And we must be mindful of the culture and adapt to it. In Australia, waiters and waitresses are not your servants. They will not bend over backwards to comply to your every whim.

My partner was utterly disappointed with what happened and really didn't expect to ever meet the Filipinos whose type can only be describe as "palibhasa-nakatuntong-sa-mundo-ng-mga-puti-akala-mo-kung-sino-na-umasta".

And maybe, that's also part of why I am so angry right now and just had to create this topic on pinoyau.info. Because I believe that Filipinos are great people. We are warm, hospitable, and respectful. But in the end, we are only as good as the worst of our kind who have made it here. Those in Table 1 and Table 2.

dhey_almighty · August 2014

typical...

pansin ko nga, mag-one week pa lang ako dito bukas pero ang dami ko nang napansin na pinoy na suplado/suplada dito...though marami rin naman mababait...

***i bet ung girl sa table no.2 e mukhang dugyot! haha :-)

TasBurrfoot · August 2014

Every race has its share of rotten egg... So ayun, you just met one!

JCsantos · August 2014

Agree with tas, you cant help it

mhej · August 2014

oo nga e. dapat pala kasama sa visa requirements ang certificate of good moral character and proof of at least 100 hours of social etiquette training. hahahaha!

medyo nahimasmasan na ako. affected kasi talaga si partner ko kagabi. kaya affected na rin ako. 8D

JCsantos · August 2014

parang mong sinabi sa aso na wag tumahol

hhehehe ...

rareking · August 2014

Good topic. Parati kaming nagdidiscuss ni misis about Filipino traits and I keep on insisting that the root cause is the Philippine Media - Vice, Ganda Kris Aquino, "Bad Boy" Robin Padilla, etc. Tumira na din ako sa US, China at Japan at kapag pala lumabas ka ng bansa ay medo naliliwanagan ka sa mga pwede pang iimprove ng pinas di lang economically pati na din sa mga asal natin.

Filipino in general (not all):

Fail#1. Parati nating pinagtatawanan itsura ng tao, damit, katawan; siguro nga dahil komedyante lang talaga tayo, "more fun in the philippines?". Mali.

Fail#2. Ikinahihiya natin yung mga trabahong meron tayo, ang cell phone na gamit natin dahil kesyo hindi smart phone. Kung ano anong term ang naging nickname ng mga mahihinang klaseng possession. In reality - materialistic tayo. Word like "longkatots" etc are funny, etc pero maling pauso. Mali.

Fail#3. Napakainit ng ulo at sensitive natin sa maling tingin, maling salita, maling tono ng boses. Konting nagkamali lang ay parang di na tayo marunong umintindi at parang susugurin na natin kaagad ang isang tao. Mali.

Fail#4. Karamihan, (95%?) ng mga lalaki ay parating bastos ang topic, dahil yata astig at nakakatawa kapag ganito ang topic ng usapan ng mga lalaki. Mali.

Fail#5. Kung titingnan nyo yung ibang mga forums - gaming, news, social media, etc. Pag may pilipinong sasali, most of the time hindi disente at bastos ang mga tono. Meron dun sa isang gaming community na talagang ni ban na yung mga IPs na pinoy kasi nga masyado ng below the belt ang mga hirit. Iba ang forum na ito, propesyunal, disente at nagtutulungan mga miyembro kaya nga nabuhayan ulit ako ng loob na maging "proud to be pinoy" ulit.

...

Marami din naman tayong maganda asal kaso minsan naiisip ko lang na natatabunan nitong mga ito. At sana pangarap ko lang sa pinas na merong overhaul sa media natin - topics, TV personalities, movie qualities, etc Palagay ko yung mga "nakakatawang jokes" to the expense of others ay wag na sa TV, siguro sa comedy bar na lang yung mga yun.

Naglalabas lang din ng sama ng loob,

rareking

Milkan · August 2014

Mhej, eto comment ko ha. Opinyon ko lang;

Actually hindi lang pinoy, mas matindi mga Aussie (or any English speaking persons) na rude or maangas kasi ng mumura talaga mga un. Kelangan mahaba pasensya pag sila ang customer at ang one of the best na sagot dyan ay "I am not the best person to explain about that or incident, I will ask my duty manager to come forward and talk to you"

yung sa Goulburn e baka nagbibiro lang, yan ba ung McDo na sa The Big Merino banda? baka nag bibiruan lang sila after ng byahe nila or to take a rest. Stop over kasi ng mga byahero yan dyan (long drive) sa Big Merino galing Melbourne or Sydney to Canberra.

Yung sa Table2 - tama naman ginawa ng partner mo na sinabi na self serve. Baka naman meron lang yung babae kaya medyo mainit ang ulo.

meron mga kaunting pinoys in Sydney na medyo mataas ang tingin sa sarili nila. Baka natyempuhan na nasa Rhodes sila hehe.

Buti pa si Jim Paredes (Apo Hiking) na taga Glenwood babatiin ka pag inunahan mong batiin.

TotoyOZresident · August 2014

Hi Guys. Just want to vent out and probably create a forum for discussion on the unpleasant Filipino habits that are still being exhibited here in Australia after migration.

Just tonight, my partner, who works part time at Ribs and Burgers in Rhodes Shopping Center experienced 2 tables of horrible customers, both Filipinos.

Table 1: Customer complaining about undercooked burger when there was barely a bite left to complain about.
What does this say about Filipinos: Na Patay Gutom po tayo. Nakakahiya at nakakagalit. In fact, this is not the first time I have heard of this happening first hand. Just last Sunday, while eating at Mcdonald's in Goulburn, I overheard a Filipina on the table, loudly bemoaning that the burger she was eating was not the one she ordered. When her companions told her to take the burger to the counter, ang sabi ba naman, "Tsaka na, kapag kalahati na.". I wanted to slap her right then and there.

Table 2: Girl kept asking for water to be served on their table and my partner had been explaining that water is self service (girl was literally sitting in front of the water service station). She said she'd go to the manager because my partner was not serving her right. Her man, not a filipino apologised to my partner and got the water himself.
What does this say about Filipinos: Two-fold, 1) We are illiterate. 2) We are invalids.

These two examples are prevalent in the Philippines. And in some way, even condoned. But we are now in a different country. And we must be mindful of the culture and adapt to it. In Australia, waiters and waitresses are not your servants. They will not bend over backwards to comply to your every whim.

My partner was utterly disappointed with what happened and really didn't expect to ever meet the Filipinos whose type can only be describe as "palibhasa-nakatuntong-sa-mundo-ng-mga-puti-akala-mo-kung-sino-na-umasta".

And maybe, that's also part of why I am so angry right now and just had to create this topic on pinoyau.info. Because I believe that Filipinos are great people. We are warm, hospitable, and respectful. But in the end, we are only as good as the worst of our kind who have made it here. Those in Table 1 and Table 2.

Yung table number 2. baka bago lang dito yung partner at hindi alam pa masyado sistema dito. kadalasan dito self service

mhej · August 2014

@Mikan & @TotoyOz

Yun din sabi ng gf ko. Baka raw nga imbalido kaya hindi makatayo to get her own water.

Yung andon sa Mcdo Goulburn, I don't think she was joking. She was a middle aged woman. And sa tono ng boses niya, it was something she was consciously saying and intended really to do.

Siguro my ultimate beef about this situation is the malice around it. Lalo yung sa Table 1. Yung alam mong they are really taking advantage. Pardon my terms, pero yung ugaling "hampas lumpa". Yung tipong gugulang at gugulang at so small a prize at the expense of social etiquette bordering in fact, on morality.

So winner sa pinakawalang kwenta si Table #1. Because regardless of race or culture, I don't think what they did is acceptable in any civilized space in this world. hehehe.

rara_avis · August 2014

May I just add, may na-encounter ako 2 pinoy ladies in blacktown library naka-loud speaker while on the phone, ang tagal pa ng conversation mga at least 15 minutes. nakakainis lang kasi general knowledge naman na dapat tahimik sa library kasi it is a place you go to when you need to concentrate (ie. study, work, etc.)

I think yung mga pinoy na di namamansin hindi naman siguro lahat suplado baka sanay lang din sila na madaming pinoy na nakikita so parang wala na din sa kanila pag may nakitang kababayan.

we moved here in July and ako din di namamansin pag may nakakasalubong na pinoy, nasanay din kasi ako sa singapore na madaming kabayan.

TasBurrfoot · August 2014

I think yung mga pinoy na di namamansin hindi naman siguro lahat suplado baka sanay lang din sila na madaming pinoy na nakikita so parang wala na din sa kanila pag may nakitang kababayan. we moved here in July and ako din di namamansin pag may nakakasalubong na pinoy, nasanay din kasi ako sa singapore na madaming kabayan.

Ako din, kung may nakikita ako na Pinoy, most of the time talaga hindi ko pinapansin pwera nalang kung kakilala ko sila.

It is just simply minding my own business, di ko naman sila kakilala eh at hindi naman sila nangangailangan ng tulong.

TotoyOZresident · August 2014

Hi, mga kababayans, advice ko lang bawal ang masyadong emotional at magdamdam dito. Mind your own business ika nga. Dito walang personalan. Kapag Pinagalitan ng boss kinabukasan wag mo ng isipin na galit pa rin sayo. Kung tungkol sa trabaho, trabaho lang talaga yun kaya ka pinagalitan. Iwasan magisip ng kung anu anung alalahanin o negative kung may nagawang pagkakamali. Kung may nakita na negative sa kapwa pinoy hayaan mo sila. Malamang medyo nakalimutan na wala sila sa Pinas.

dhey_almighty · August 2014

@TotoyOZresident tama! :-)

TotoyOZresident · August 2014

Ito isa pa. Most na nakikilala nyo na bago tanung agad ilang years na kayo dito, PR at anung trabaho nyo? Then kapag sinabi mo na professional like IT or Engineer or nurse sabihin agad sayo o tanung agad sayo "Naku malaki ang sahod nun cguro malaki cguro sahod mo?" sagutin mo agad "oo malaki sahod ko" (kahit kinukulang ka dahil maliit o nagsisimula ka pa lang) hahaha... para maiwasan mo yung negative thinking expected everytime na may nakilala ka na pinoy agad yun lagi ang tanung kaya dapat yun din ang sagod hahahaha.... para bigtime

okay!

TasBurrfoot · August 2014

Hi, mga kababayans, advice ko lang bawal ang masyadong emotional at magdamdam dito. Mind your own business ika nga. Dito walang personalan. Kapag Pinagalitan ng boss kinabukasan wag mo ng isipin na galit pa rin sayo. Kung tungkol sa trabaho, trabaho lang talaga yun kaya ka pinagalitan. Iwasan magisip ng kung anu anung alalahanin o negative kung may nagawang pagkakamali. Kung may nakita na negative sa kapwa pinoy hayaan mo sila. Malamang medyo nakalimutan na wala sila sa Pinas.

Very well said...

Especially the mind your own business part!

Milkan · August 2014

sa na obserbahan ko lang ha, most Filipinos na nasa regional areas na napuntahan ko are very nice sa mga bagong dating or visitor na pinoy (accommodating, babatiin ka - "kamusta ka"?, matulungin to name a few). Not like Filipinos na nasa big Cities like Sydney, Melbourne, Perth and Canberra. (not sure with Adelaide, Darwin, Brisbane and Hobart).
Just my observation.

cholle · August 2014

Actually, hindi naman porke't hindi ka binati, suplado na agad. Sa Pinas naman pag nasalubong mo sila on the street di mo rin naman sila papansinin eh.

Also, +1 sa threadstarter - sadly maraming Pinoy ang hindi alam kung ano yung mga etiquette when it comes to dining out, sa retail, etc, palibhasa iba ang nakasanayan sa atin. Tapos sasabihan ka ng 'pagpasensyahan mo na lang'; kaso kung hindi mo pupunahin o pagsasabihan hindi sila matututo.

TasBurrfoot · August 2014

Actually, hindi naman porke't hindi ka binati, suplado na agad. Sa Pinas naman pag nasalubong mo sila on the street di mo rin naman sila papansinin eh.

Also, +1 sa threadstarter - sadly maraming Pinoy ang hindi alam kung ano yung mga etiquette when it comes to dining out, sa retail, etc, palibhasa iba ang nakasanayan sa atin. Tapos sasabihan ka ng 'pagpasensyahan mo na lang'; kaso kung hindi mo pupunahin o pagsasabihan hindi sila matututo.

Itong PAGPASENSYAHAN MO NALANG; this is not a good thing eh...

Majority kasi sa mga Pinoy hindi direct so ayun, pinagpasensyahan na lang but tama si @cholle, if you don't mention it to them, they might not be aware that they are very irritating already.

rara_avis · August 2014

sa na obserbahan ko lang ha, most Filipinos na nasa regional areas na napuntahan ko are very nice sa mga bagong dating or visitor na pinoy (accommodating, babatiin ka - "kamusta ka"?, matulungin to name a few). Not like Filipinos na nasa big Cities like Sydney, Melbourne, Perth and Canberra. (not sure with Adelaide, Darwin, Brisbane and Hobart).
Just my observation.

In my case, sa Sydney kami ngayon, yung mga nakilala naming mga pinoy are all very very accommodating and willing to help, most of them have been here for a minimum of 10 years na. I just noticed yung mga nakilala ko na recently lang dumating dito ang medyo may konting yabang, konti lang naman.

Case to case basis din naman ito.

wizardofOz · August 2014

Ang napansin ko sa "ibang" mga pinoy, anywhere in the world, masyadong Tenacious. Kararating pa lang akala mo kung sino umasta, sobrang lakas ng boses mag-usap, kung magbiruan parang wala sa public place, in short walang social etiquette. Insensitive at hindi marunong makiramdam sa kapwa.

Yung "more fun" mindset kasi minsan is being taken out of context, intentionally or unintentionally.

Basic lang naman yung social etiquette na itinuro sa atin nung bata pa tayo ng ating mga magulang.

"Mag-behave" and "Matutong mahiya"

Huwag na sana nating hintaying laitin pa tayo ng mga ibang lahi sa buong mundo, at i-brand ang mga Pilipino na "walang urbanidad" at "walang pinag-aralan".

Alalahanin natin, na ang isang maling action lang ng isang Pinoy, pwedeng maging cause na ma-judge ang buong lahi natin.

Just want to share this quote: "Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions"

Milkan · August 2014

Actually, hindi naman porke't hindi ka binati, suplado na agad. Sa Pinas naman pag nasalubong mo sila on the street di mo rin naman sila papansinin eh.

Also, +1 sa threadstarter - sadly maraming Pinoy ang hindi alam kung ano yung mga etiquette when it comes to dining out, sa retail, etc, palibhasa iba ang nakasanayan sa atin. Tapos sasabihan ka ng 'pagpasensyahan mo na lang'; kaso kung hindi mo pupunahin o pagsasabihan hindi sila matututo.

hi @cholle, yup I agree with you, common kasi dito sa Australia yung greeting. Considered as polite pag nag greet ka sa kanila.
Obserbahan mo pag bumibili ka sa mga coffee shops, supermarkets or anywhere lagi sila nagtatanong "hi how are you?" at alam naman natin siguro ang reply dyan. hehe.
Anyway, yun lang ung na obserbahan ko.

yung sinabi mo na "pagpasensyahan mo na lang" sa tingin ko mas maganda kung meron corrective action na gagawin para di na maulit.

loudandclear · August 2014

oh my, yung hindi pala pagpansin o pagbati sa kapwa, pangit na pala tingin sa kanila ng ibang pinoy. kase ako i dont take it na suplada or mayabang yung ganun. pinagiisipan na pala ng masama, di ko pa alam. this is an eye opener for me. thanks for this thread.

TotoyOZresident · August 2014

oh my, yung hindi pala pagpansin o pagbati sa kapwa, pangit na pala tingin sa kanila ng ibang pinoy. kase ako i dont take it na suplada or mayabang yung ganun. pinagiisipan na pala ng masama, di ko pa alam. this is an eye opener for me. thanks for this thread.

Hindi mo rin kasi masasabi kung Pinoy talaga yun o baka ibang Asian mukha lang Pinoy.

Ako hindi naman ako namamansin at hindi ko rin naman iniisip na pansinin nila ako. Ewan ko na lang kung maganda puede ko pansinin.

TasBurrfoot · August 2014

oh my, yung hindi pala pagpansin o pagbati sa kapwa, pangit na pala tingin sa kanila ng ibang pinoy. kase ako i dont take it na suplada or mayabang yung ganun. pinagiisipan na pala ng masama, di ko pa alam. this is an eye opener for me. thanks for this thread.

Just mind your own business and you will be fine...

Huwag kalimutan pansinin mo though mga kaibigan mo!

RuChe · August 2014

Nambabati lang ako pag sure akong pinoy, that is pag nagtagalog. Otherwise, quiet lang ako. Minsan kase kala ko pinoy nung nagsalita di ko naintidihan, indonesian ata. hehe.

JCsantos · August 2014

Nambabati lang ako pag sure akong pinoy, that is pag nagtagalog. Otherwise, quiet lang ako. Minsan kase kala ko pinoy nung nagsalita di ko naintidihan, indonesian ata. hehe.

This!! I had the same exp 3x so minsan quiet lang talaga or confirm muna kung pinoy talaga

IslanderndCity · August 2014

Nambabati lang ako pag sure akong pinoy, that is pag nagtagalog. Otherwise, quiet lang ako. Minsan kase kala ko pinoy nung nagsalita di ko naintidihan, indonesian ata. hehe.
This!! I had the same exp 3x so minsan quiet lang talaga or confirm muna kung pinoy talaga

ako, I just give my genuine smile. if hindi mag-smile back, I don't mind. smiling is good for my health anyway

vhoythoy · September 2014

Baka kasi nadala ung attitude na customers is always right. Yup, ako din di namamansin kahit pinoy, well unless chicks hehehe. Minsan din kasi busy ka sa mga iniisip mo at naghihintayan magbatian, plus marami nga tayo kamukha from other asian countries.

Lalo na dito kasi sa Singapore sanay na sanay na ako sa pinoy, kahit saan lugar may makikita ka. Elevator, malls, mrt, kapibahay, nagbbq sa baba ng condo, lansangan, etc. so no big deal na. Well unless siguro nasa malayong lupalop ka ng mundo or nasa liblib na lugar at maliit ang chance na makakita ka ng pinoy eh malamang babatiin mo talaga un ng sobra2. Pansin ko lang, sa melbourne sa 6 days namin naglalakad sa CBD wala talaga ako nakita na pinoy, karamihan intsik at pana. Sarap ng ramen dun kakamiss

TasBurrfoot · September 2014

Sarap ng ramen dun kakamiss

Saan itong Ramen @vhoythoy?

vhoythoy · September 2014

Sarap ng ramen dun kakamiss
Saan itong Ramen @vhoythoy?

Menya ramen house sa may elizabeth bandang lonsdale na. Ok dun ung pork ramen nila. Di ako masyado mahilig sa ramen pero nagustuhan ko nman dun tska ung tonkatsu.