Australian Computer Society Skills Application

tigerlily · August 2014

Hi good evening everyone! Need some advice about reference letter. I'm about to request from my boss na kasi wondering how should it be if i was promoted few yrs ago? Need ba indicate yung dates and job description for both positions?
Thanks in advance. :-)

J_Oz · August 2014

@tigerlily question ko rin to a month ago. Bale ang advise nila e kung same rin naman ng role, promoted lang at nadagdagan yung task eh isang reference lang yan. But include all of the tasks before and current. Tapos lagay lang na current role mo e for example senior software developer na.

sana maintindihan mo reply ko haha.

tigerlily · August 2014

@J_Oz thanks!

May naalala pa pala ako question. :-) May boss kasi ako na plan ko hingan ng reference pero nagretire sya recently. So do you think I can ask from him and valid pa din? Stat dec ba yun?

icebreaker1928 · August 2014

Hi guys, sorry hindi nako nakabackread, ang haba na e... tinutulungan ko kasi sis ko sa pag-apply ng ACS nya, ang dami ng nabago na rules nung ako pa lang nag-aaply kaya hindi na applicable yung ginawa ko dati, ang katanungan ko po ay ito.

hindi kasi namin maintindihan ano ibig sabihin nito.
Page 10 ng

https://www.acs.org.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0020/7319/Skills-Assessment-Guidelines-for-Applicants.pdf

Thesis or Research Project Abstract
When the qualification includes a thesis or research project, an abstract of the thesis or research project is required. The abstract should be endorsed by the primary supervisor where possible. The name of the University and the date of the thesis publication or project completion should appear on the front page of the abstract.

May thesis kasi sya nung college, so ano dapat nyang gawin? salamat po sa sasagot.

Xiaomau82 · August 2014

@J_Oz thanks!

May naalala pa pala ako question. :-) May boss kasi ako na plan ko hingan ng reference pero nagretire sya recently. So do you think I can ask from him and valid pa din? Stat dec ba yun?

yes, you can ask your former boss na mag stat dec for u, then submit the stat dec together with your COE.

J_Oz · August 2014

@icebreaker1928 nagbasa ako before dito same thread kasi yung degree ko rin e required ng thesis noon, and based dun sa nabasa ko hindi rin daw sila nagsubmit pero ok naman ang result.

Sa mga may thesis rin, required ba talaga yon? or Need lang siya for post grad na ipapa-assess? Thanks!

J_Oz · August 2014

Sa mga nagpaCTC ng documents, san ang recommended nyo dito sa Makati area?

also, eto ang documents currently nasa akin: passport, birth cert, coe(with job desc), tor, diploma. Lahat 'to kelangan CTC upon submission diba?

Thanks!

chichan · August 2014

Sa mga nagpaCTC ng documents, san ang recommended nyo dito sa Makati area?

also, eto ang documents currently nasa akin: passport, birth cert, coe(with job desc), tor, diploma. Lahat 'to kelangan CTC upon submission diba?

Thanks!

@J_Oz yup lahat CTC, try mo sa may Makati Ave mismo, yung nasa corner malapit sa 711. Sakin 300PHP all documents, 3 copies each na para may extra ako. OK na yung CTC lang. Iba kasi rate nila pag sasabihin mong abroad. Kelangan lang naman is explicitly naka indicate yung Certified Copy of...

J_Oz · August 2014

@chichan sige thanks. Try ko rin dun. Actually may nakikita ako malapit sa rcbc plaza kaso hindi ko alam kung legit, or may hindi ba legit? Hehehe

paupau29 · August 2014

@J_Oz meron sa may likod ng people support, along buendia?

just_g29 · August 2014

Hay.. may bawas bawas pa pla..

raiden14 · August 2014

I just got my assesment result today under ICT Support Engineer.
Bachelors Degree major in Computing
9 + years of experience considered.

Question : What if I wanted to have reassesment under another anzco code.
Do i need to send another set of COE ( latest) for a review? to align for my preferred code ( systems administrator)

cnel_26 · August 2014

Hi po. I am planning to have my ACS skills re-assessment because it is about to expire this coming October 2014. I am half-hearted whether to include my Masters Degree (transcript) even though i only earned 18 units aside from my Bachelor's Degree hoping that this will make a difference. Any comments or suggestions? Thank you.

ios_dev · August 2014

I just got my assesment result today under ICT Support Engineer.
Bachelors Degree major in Computing
9 + years of experience considered.

Question : What if I wanted to have reassesment under another anzco code.
Do i need to send another set of COE ( latest) for a review? to align for my preferred code ( systems administrator)

Yes, reassessment for a different ANZCO code will require you to submit COE that backs your experience as a systems admin. They don't have to be recently dated if that's your question. I don't think COEs expire.

raiden14 · August 2014

@ios_dev -Can I submit a different set of duties and responsibilities for my latest job of 4 years, different title and duties, as I can request for this. Di ba lalabas na nagsisinungaling ako? because I have submitted a different set for the initial assessment?

ios_dev · August 2014

@ios_dev -Can I submit a different set of duties and responsibilities for my latest job of 4 years, different title and duties, as I can request for this. Di ba lalabas na nagsisinungaling ako? because I have submitted a different set for the initial assessment?

You mean the same company and same work dates but different job description? I think that could potentially raise flags. Especially if the dates overlap. The entire purpose of ACS is to assess your work experience is legit for a certain ANZCO. If you provide contradicting papers, you could be penalized for it.

heyits7me_mags · August 2014

@raiden14, Yung 2nd assessment result ni hubby which is ICT Support other ACS CO na humawak Hindi na Yung dati. Tingin pba nilang nagsasabi o Hindi ang applicant ng totoo. Kung i-back up ba nun ofis nyo Yung COE mo Sa ACS. Nasa sayo na desisyon

what if pala kung the same person pero pag nag verify Sa ofis nyo. Wala namang problema bka pwede...

heyits7me_mags · August 2014

Pero teka muna @raiden14, sis ask mo muna ACS Yung CO mo kung pede ka magpa review or closely related rin ba Yung job description mo Sys Ad. Kasi kelan Lang na release result mo makaka save ka Ng thousands of peso kung ipa review mo Sa Sys Ad kesa mag new assessment ka. Sa case Kasi nmin na advised kmi na doon Sa 2 ANZCO, ICT Support at Sys Ad pede job description ni hubby so after matapos Yung assessment result Sa Sys Ad nag inquire kmi kung pwede ipa review Sa ICT Support. Pwede nman daw ni grab n nmin Kasi makaka saved kmi Ng thousands kesa mag new assessment ulit. Open pa ba Yung password mo after nun result Sa ICT Support? Pwede pa ba makipag communicate Sa dating CO para magtanong?

just_g29 · August 2014

Since i got confused and a little bit paranoid because I already applied for visa I asked my agent about it.

Below is a part of the statements in my assessment result:

The following employment after June 2007 is considered to equate to work at an appropriately skilled level and relevant to 261312 (Developer Programmer) of the ANZSCO Code.

Dates: 06/05 - 09/13 (8yrs 3mths)
Position: Developer Programmer
Employer: Sumidenso Automotive Technologies Asia Corporation
Country: PHILIPPINES

--》according to my agent ACS acknowledge 8yrs and 3 months of my work experience "Dates: 06/05 -09/13 (8yrs 3months)"

heyits7me_mags · August 2014

@just_g29, 2008 npo ang umpisa Ng counting ng experience nyo. After 2007 daw po eh.

kenshusei · August 2014

The following employment after June 2007 is considered to equate to work at an appropriately skilled level and relevant to 261312 (Developer Programmer) of the ANZSCO Code.

Dates: 06/05 - 09/13 (8yrs 3mths)
Position: Developer Programmer
Employer: Sumidenso Automotive Technologies Asia Corporation
Country: PHILIPPINES

@just_g29 After June 2007 lang po ang counted (from July 2007-present). So for the company Sumidenso, you only have 6 years and 3 months of relevant/related experience.

just_g29 · August 2014

Can you send po the link sa ACS website about this matter?.. para mapakita ko po sa agent nmin.. tnx..

just_g29 · August 2014

Hi Guys!napansin ko lang po sa mga past threads may nababawasan ng years of experience na naccredit, ano po ung reason behind that? Thank you:)
@kiddiemealkid04, pwede mo makita yung ruling dito:
https://www.acs.org.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0020/7319/Skills-Assessment-Guidelines-for-Applicants.pdf

Dito naman nagbabase kung ilan ang ibabawas:
https://www.acs.org.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0016/7324/Summary-of-Criteria-2014.pdf

ngbasa ako sa mga previous post sa thread.. nakita ko to and binasa ung content.. wla nmn cnabi na mgbabawas ang ACS sa work experience natin.. ung 2 yrs work experience is suitability criteria lng.. similar to minimum work experience required para macategorize ung skills i think..

kenshusei · August 2014

@just_g29 Check Sections 4 and 5 of the first document you mentioned above.

wla nmn cnabi na mgbabawas ang ACS sa work experience natin.. ung 2 yrs work experience is suitability criteria lng.. similar to minimum work experience required para macategorize ung skills i think..

In section 5, sabi dun sa example:

Example 1 – Employment completed AFTER the qualification:
 You complete a relevant Bachelor degree with a major in ICT in Jan 2008 and you have 4 years of relevant
work experience from Jan 2008 until Jan 2012.
 2 years of work experience will be used to satisfy the suitability criteria and your Skill Level Requirement
Met Date will be Jan 2010.
 All suitable work experience completed AFTER Jan 2010 will be considered “Skilled Employment” and
eligible for the skilled migration points test.
 The 2 years of work experience used to satisfy the suitability criteria is NOT eligible for the skilled
migration points test but is assessed to meet the suitability criteria.

J_Oz · August 2014

Tama si @kenshusei . Work experience after masatisfy ang suitability criteria lang ang pwedeng i-claim sa points test.

just_g29 · August 2014

@kenshusei ibig sabihin pg nglodge ka ng EOI.. dun sa employment history ilalagay mo lng na date is yung may after (specified yr) from the assessment?

Sa EOI, mgkahiwalay na category yung skill assessment and employment history does it means iba pa yung makukuha na points sa employment and iba pa sa skill assessment?

kenshusei · August 2014

ibig sabihin pg nglodge ka ng EOI.. dun sa employment history ilalagay mo lng na date is yung may after (specified yr) from the assessment?

The following employment after June 2007 is considered to equate to work at an appropriately skilled level and relevant to 261312 (Developer Programmer) of the ANZSCO Code.

Dates: 06/05 - 09/13 (8yrs 3mths)
Position: Developer Programmer
Employer: Sumidenso Automotive Technologies Asia Corporation
Country: PHILIPPINES

Sa employment history, make 2 separate entries for Sumidenso :

Position: Developer Programmer
Employer name: Sumidenso Automotive Technologies Asia Corporation
Country: PHILIPPINES
Is this employment related to the nominated occupation? No
Date from (dd/mm/yyyy): 01/06/2005
Date to (dd/mm/yyyy): 30/06/2007

Position: Developer Programmer
Employer name: Sumidenso Automotive Technologies Asia Corporation
Country: PHILIPPINES
Is this employment related to the nominated occupation? Yes
Date from (dd/mm/yyyy): 01/07/2007
Date to (dd/mm/yyyy): 30/09/2013

** Yung exact day (dd) gawa-gawa ko lang for example purposes

Sa EOI, mgkahiwalay na category yung skill assessment and employment history does it means iba pa yung makukuha na points sa employment and iba pa sa skill assessment?

Under skills assessment, if I remember it right, ilalagay mo lang naman yung Nominated Occupation mo, Assessing authority, Assessment date and Ref number. Sa Employment section naman, dun mo na iisa isahin yung employment history mo.

Bottom line, the ACS assessment will tell you 2 things:

1. Level of educational qualification attained
Im assuming you were given an "AQF Bachelor Degree with a major in computing" in which you can claim 15 pts (At least a Bachelor Degree).

2. Years of experience in a Nominated Occupation - overseas within the
last 10 years.
Im assuming yours falls under "Equal to or greater than 5 Years and less than 8 Years", in which you can claim 10 pts.

HTH.

gothblade · August 2014

Hello,

Gusto ko lang po tanungin kung kailangan pa ng RPL if you have a 4 year Bachelor Philippine Degree. I also have around 4 years experience in IT(as a programmer)

Tama ba yung assumption ko po na di na kailangan and di na kailangan ung ACS Project Form? Or di considered eligable yung Degree ko and I have to get RPL for recognition of my Work Experience?

Napa CTC ko na rin po yung mga Employment Certificates ko and all the other requirements(Passport, Birth Cert, Diploma and TOR).

kenshusei · August 2014

@gothblade ano po bang course nyo? Based po sa guidelines:

4 – Recognition of Prior Learning – (RPL)
The RPL application is for applicants with Non ICT or insufficient ICT qualifications, or do not hold any
tertiary ICT qualifications.
6 years of full time professional ICT work experience in a field closely related to the nominated ANZSCO
Code is required if you hold a Non ICT or insufficient ICT qualification and 8 years if you do not have any
ICT qualifications.

https://www.acs.org.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0020/7319/Skills-Assessment-Guidelines-for-Applicants.pdf